5 Things I Do to Improve my MESH NETWORK
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Please do not make any changes to your network, mesh network or Internet connection based on the information in this video. I do not accept any responsibility or liability for any loss or damage of whatever nature (direct, indirect, consequential, or other) which may arise as a result of your use of the information in this video. This video is for educational purposes only. - Věda a technologie
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I cannot overstate how good this video is in describing how Mesh systems work and even answering some technical questions that I had that even a lowly cave man brain like mine can understand. Thank you so much.
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Thank you. This was extremely helpful in tweaking my mesh network. Awesome content!
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Excellent graphics, it made this video even more easy to understand for me.
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Best explanation in the world. I wish there were more born teachers like you! An outstanding job!
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Persians are good teachers my friend 😜. But seriously, very nice explanation.
An excellent & thorough video.
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This video just popped up on my feed (probably because I was recently trying to find out what optimal settings are for my TP-Link Deco X60 set-up.) You are awesome.
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Just came across this video and it is the exact explanation I needed to implement a new wifi setup
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@@Behfor just quick question. If I am looking to replace my mesh system, amd in only need a primary router and 1 node. They will be hardwired cat6 to each other.
If they are hard wired together, resultimg in wired backhaul, is there any benefit to a tri band system versus a dual band system?
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Excellent video, thank you!
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cheers m8 helped a bloody lot yeh, got like8 telstra smart modem gen 3's gonna use them with tp-link main router & just once again wanted to say thankyou very much
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Best video I have been able to find around here that describes at some level how the wired backhaul works, anyway I would like to see something more detailed. Like this I need to experiment with it a lot running around my home. Still, thanks for the video.
Very well explained.
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You are awesome! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise with such joy and passion. I have a question that maybe you can do a video on? I have 2 Asus AiMesh-system routers on different floors in AP mode, both wired to a modem in the basement. Is it possible to create a wired backhaul between the 2 routers in AP mode? I am confused as to how to connect them if it is possible. I have the 2 routers in AP mode because i did not want to have one in Router mode in the basement which is a room that is not used for clients. Thank you in advance for your comment and any guidance you could share.
So the main rule here is to stick with Tri-Band routers. I wish I had known this before I bought the RT-AX3000!
I wish I knew it as well before buying two Xiaomi ax 1800
The goblet drum was a nice touch...pun intended :) ..... A very informative and useful video as always...keep it up
Lol. Thanks, glad you liked it.
Use MoCA if you can't do a traditional wired backhaul setup. Very easy install but it will cost you at least $150 extra.
Such a helpful video and explanation! Just what I was looking for. I do have a question: In setting up an aimesh network with a Wifi 6 Asus router as the primary router, should the node also be Wifi 6? I know you explained that both should be tri-band (if the primary is tri-band), which helped me tremendously, and I was also curious if a Wifi 5 node would slow things down, and if a Wifi 6 node is a much better way to go to keep higher speeds within the network. Sounds logical, but I also viewed a video that said that the aimesh node takes on some of the characteristics of the primary router, even if it didn't originally have some of those features. I wondered if the Wifi level would be included in that.Thanks Behfor!
care to update, anyone? Thinking of getting the gt ax6000 and then in the future wifi 7 router as the primary and ax6000 as the node.
giving you big LIKE just for the damn drum rolls in between... lolol
Big THANK YOU to you! Glad you liked it 🙂
Great video, this answers my question if I need two triband routers for optimising my soon to be delivered fibreoptic 1000Mbit/sec internet. I'm afraid it's going to be the expensive option. I'm looking now at two ASUS GT-AX1100 (or GT-AXE1100 if I can find them) instead of two RT-AX86U I was considering first.
Glad it was useful, thanks!
Nice!
Thanks!
Deco setup does not support one Deco to be 5GHZ channel only. Either the entire network (All Decos) can work on both channels or one not individual decos
Nice dombak! my father has one too!
Yeah it's really nice but I'm not good at it, thanks :-)
anyone facing 5GHz band down frequently from 2nd/3rd node (2.4GHz still functioning), whereby both bands are functioning in Primary Node.
Can I measure the range of the routers?
At home I use 1x the RT-88U and 2x the RT68U in a triangle. Unfortunately if I take 1 out, then in the garden or in the attic just too little signal. But now I think that the 3 routers are too close to each other and it seems like a mobile phone is switching between the routers, despite the Mesh.
Thanks for the video and this channel knowledge. I'm looking for some hardware for live streaming. I use Apple iPhones with Wi-Fi 6. I have an Asus RT-AX53U, but I think NETGEAR Nighthawk M1 has better Wi-Fi (don't know how).
What hardware can you recommend for it? But not too expensive.
Thanks for the great and informative video. I’m using an Asus ZenWifi XT8 (tribands) with ethernet backhaul. Should I disable one of the 5Ghz band. What’s the difference between 5Ghz-1 and 2? Thanks
Awesome Video!!
I just picked up RogRapture AX11000. What would be a good node to pair this with? I will be utilizing a wired backhaul and don’t want to lose my wifi 6 capability. Thanks!
great video!
would you please do a video for using a USB printer on a AiMesh node?
or at least use Asus with newest firmwares as a print server :\
I own a AX86U. It is on the main floor. 2nd floor has great coverage. 3rd floor there are some issues. I have a hardwired cheap router out in my unattached garage. I keep seeing a 2 pack of AX92U routers on sale. I know you sale best router as main. However I was thinking one 92U as main on main floor. 2nd one on 2nd floor connected via wireless mesh. Since they are tri band one band can be for backhaul. Then put my newer AX86U out in the garage and have it wired to the mesh system so it doesn't lose a band for backhaul. Does this seem like a good move?
I have a tri-band Asus and want to use a new quad band as the primary. Not sure as to wireless settings.
If I use 5g band as backhaul, so what would be the max bandwidth (outgoing) the client could have? Assuming clients are all connected to 2.4g
I don't believe minimising hubs is necessary if you use a switch to connect all your hubs wired to the backhaul router then WiFi signal is 100% dedicated to the end user.
Some may not like that setup but there's a reason ubiquity uses POE ethernet and is claimed to be one of the best wifi mesh systems.
Hey, great channel! Are You planing to compare Omada SDN with AiMesh in the nearest feature?
Hi Behfor, great video as always! I have a question, does aimesh system with wired backhaul is still good in multi-hop/Daisy chain topology? I understand that, this topology with wireless backhaul will perform bad, as the higher hop will get least amount of bandwidth, as you mentioned in the video. But, does it will perform best on wired backhaul? Thanks a lot
Hi, thanks. Is it better than using wireless backhaul like in the video? Yes
Is it as good as directly connecting the nodes to the main router? No but for a couple of nodes it should be alright because you should keep in mind this way all the traffic from all the nodes will eventually has to go through the backhaul between primary router and 1st node and this might become a bottleneck!
How far apart should wired mesh nodes be placed?
Awesome channel, good to see you keep responding comments, i will take the opportunity to ask, can the ac68u work as a primary for a aimesh system? In the asus website say that it only works as a node which was strange to me. If does, can i use two ac68u to make a aimesh system?
Thanks! Yes you can use it as a primary Aimesh router and also an aimesh node.
P.S. I'm on the ASUS website right now and I can see it says primary Aimesh router and Aimesh node !
Additionally, it is a tree network and not really a mesh network. Work to uplink your APs so that they have the shortest path to the Internet. Great video though.
Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
Very good video. I have a question about setting up a Asus rt-ax86u with a Asus rp-ac1900 extender to allow me to use a pi hole DHCP to assign IP address and still keep my extender.
Hi, very interesting video. I would like to ask you a question.
I have a primary AX88U Pro and an AC68U as a mesh node connected wirelessly.
As you say in the video on the node I lose about 50% per throughput.
If I replace the AC68U with a tri-band ZenWiFi AX (XT8) which has a band dedicated to backhaul, can I make better use of the line or since it is the main dual-band router, nothing changes?
@behfor I have a AX 86U ROUTER and recently bought 2 pack xt8 asus mesh network to fill in some empty wifi spots. My question is this. Should I use one of the xt8 routers as the main router being that it is tri band?
So is it worse to have more than 2 access points connected through Ethernet ?
I just ordered an Asus axe11000 to cover my 2 bed house but now I'm thinking of doing 2 86u with a wired back haul. I have 1 gig internet and we stream everything... what do u suggest
@behfor one question, if i have 3 routers connected with ethernet, will hopping make any difference? should I connect 2 nodes into the main, or can I connect them one node to main and second node to first node? thanks
How does one measure the roaming overlap of 15-20%? If I have an aimesh system, how do I know that it's optimized with that 15-20% overlap?
Good info. One question though, if I have two nodes with wired back haul is it better to wire both back to router or can I wire the furthest node to the closer one?
Thanks, if you connect node2 to node1 and node1 to the router (daisy chain) then all the traffic from node1&2 will eventually have to pass the backhaul between node1 & router! Depending on how busy the network is, this backhaul could become a bottleneck! But if you connect each node directly to the router you won't have this bottleneck issue. So the direct connection from nodes to the router is preferred. Hope that makes sense, thanks
Behfor, Please help ASAP I have two of the GT-AXE11000 Routers and i want to use them as a wired mesh setup , on the backhal which port is the best to connect them ? lan to lan, 2.5G port to 2.5G port ? etc. your advice is the only one i use.
Im currently using a dual band MW6 (primary and 2 nodes). I lose almost all my upload speed from the modem to the primary node, why does this happens and how do I fix it?
Despite installing over 5000 WiFi routers of multiple brands, I’ve never seen a mesh model that allows you to choose backhaul band, channel, and bandwidth. All have been automatic. What brands/models support this feature?
Well, selecting a channel for a simple mesh network for example the one used in the video doesn't need a specific feature, because on the main router if I manually select channels for the frequency bands then it has to use the same channels for the backhaul as well, should it participate in a mesh network! For a more serious mesh network as far as I remember Meraki allows you to manually select the channels. AiMesh also allows you to prioritize the 5 GHz for the backhaul.
Can I wired all Hops (ie 10) together as star network?
Do u basically have 2 different wifis going on?
Can I run a wired back hall from one node to another but not wired to the primary node?
Normally it should be possible but because each vendor might have different proprietary rules, it'll also depend on the Mesh system you are using. So the answer is yes, unless the vendor does not allow it! thanks.
I was wondering.There 1,6,11 channel for non-overlapping channel. Will for the best Mesh wifi channel use same channel or different? Backhaul abd client serving channel.
HI!
I have just bought the AX11000 router.
Can you recommend mesh nodes to use with it? I was thinking AX92U or XT8??....
1Node will be wired to the main router and 1 will be wireless to the main router.
Thanks and great videos!
Just get another ax11000 or ax6100 or anything in same family with Asus routers / rog routers
great video. I hope you can help me. I have my AiMesh setup with GT AC-5300 as router mode main node and 4 AiMesh nodes. Now I want to switch the main router into an AP mode so that I can place it behind my newly setup pfsense firewall. If I do so and obviously disable the DHCO etc.. on the Asus AC-5300, does that mean I will have to setup the 4 other nodes again from scratch, or they will be detected automatically with the new setup? Thank you
My video call quality goes up and down often while on video conference. Will lowering my wifi networking speed stabilize the video. Does lowering wifi speed improve stability?
Can anyone help. I have an out building (wooden shed) which is only about 10 metres from my house. I can pick up my broadband in there on my phone but not on my PC. Any ideas? Seems like it's a pc issue rather than the signal side of things.
Can you tell which mesh works better mesh on zen model or ax6000 models is there any difference
Great 👍 video thanks. Link for the DF channel topic please.
You're very welcome. This is the DFS video czcams.com/video/Scro8R-E5Zo/video.html
The link is also in the video description, thanks.
I have 2 stand alone Amplifi Alien Mesh Routers connected to each other using Ethernet backhaul,
do you know why my devices is not connecting to the closes Amplifi Alien mesh router?
It's hard to tell what exactly is causing this but it could be because the nodes are maybe too close to each other! You may wanna watch this video for more info: czcams.com/video/GDCD3t8CU3Y/video.html
Is it possible to connect 1 mesh asus1mesh and TP-Link mesh together?
I have 2x rt ac68u set up in ai mesh network with Ethernet back haul .. works.. but no matter what I do the Ethernet shows up as 10/100Mb/s not gigE. I even connected two directly with brand new cat6 cable.. still shows up as 10/100Mb/s 🤷🏽♂️
Any ideas?
Awesome video! Thanks so much. Dump the ASSus routers though. They are crap w/ IoT devices. Get yourself an Orbi RBK852 mesh system. It’s a beast but very expensive.
Behfor, I've been following and been watching your vids for quite some time and need your feedback. I'm planning on getting the AX86U and setup a mesh with my AC68U. Would that work? I'm planning on setting a wired connections between the AX86u as my main router and the 68u for the other node. My place has couple of walls and my wifi won't reach the back end of the house. Just wondering if it's gonna work without a problem.
Hi and thanks. Well the whole purpose of AiMesh is to extend the WiFi range so it should definitely help you with that, but unfortunately I cannot guarantee you that it's gonna work with no problem, because wireless is full of surprises and no one ever can guarantee such a promise. Having said that, if you follow the points mention in this video you are increasing the chance of having a smooth mesh network. Thanks and good luck 👍
Fam, if at all possible: try to run some ethernet to the 68u. Wifi backhaul is NOT a great option over a large distance. If the ethernet is termed correctly, (with no kinks nor attenuation especially...) you will find that your bandwidth throughput will be MUCH more sustainable than relying on wifi for your back haul channel. 🤓🤓🤓💙💙💙💻💻💻
If I am using a WIRED backhaul for a 3 router setup (one main + 2 nodes), does it matter whether the ethernet comes from the main router to the two nodes, or daisy chain from the primary to node 1 and then node 2?
Connecting nodes directly to the main is much more preferred. Because if daisy chained, then all traffic from node1 & node2 would eventually have to pass through the first backhaul (main to node1) and this backhaul, depending on how busy the network is, could become a bottleneck. Hope that makes sense.
I just got the ax86u and wanted to imesh what would be a good router to run it off?
Thanks Behfor. Can you help? I have an rtax88u connected to the web and 2 rtac68u nodes with wired backhaul (not daisychained)
I have a 6 bedroom home and my bedroom is midway between the nodes. My wireless signal strength keeps dropping to 1/2 strength intermittently according to the indicators on my iPad and iPhone. Is this because I am being switched to the node with a weaker signal intermittently for some reason? I have the latest ASUS firmware. Thanks
Thanks, it's hard to tell from here what's happening, but it could be maybe your Ipad stays connected to the node with the weaker signal and doesn't switch to the node with the stronger signal. If that's the case first of all maybe the location of the routers/nodes should be changed, if they are too close or too far, these things might happen. Like I said in the video something around 15-20% overlap is recommended. Also you might benefit from using the roaming assistant feature. I talked about it in this video:
czcams.com/video/qusVMXQC9zU/video.html
I might actually make a video on roaming and how to troubleshoot.
Thanks and good luck.
I was thinking about connecting my 10G port modem to a 10G rt-ax89x and put the rt-ax86u in a node linked by ethernet cable for tri-band wifi. does it sound good?
If you have a modem and an AX89X router you don't need to put the router in a node mode! You can just connect it to the modem and use it simply as a wireless router!
I've really improved my AIMESH by hard wiring all my computers to the router, and switching the wireless off completely.
Who would have thought it?!
I doubt many folk who are installing wifi in their homes are in any way eager to start drilling holes in their walls and running network cabling. I hate this fixation some seem to have on wired backhaul.
Step one hard wire everything 😂 joking great video
I totally agree!! Thanks :))
Hi gang, ill be moving to my new place soon and i am unable to use LAN cable as it will make the place look ugly as ill have to route a long LAN cable to my room. Im currently on a plan which is 500mbps and is using a 2in1 modem huawei modem router. What solution that you guys would recommend for me to achieve a full 500mbps via my computer's wifi 6 antenna? my apartment is only less than 800+ sqft and the modem will be located in the hall. My room is just 1 wall away so it isnt that far away. So far currently tested with the room door close , i get up to 200mbps+ on my mobile phone. I wanted to go the mesh route but i heard that the 2nd node will only provide me half the speed which probably might be 250mbps, and i wanna achieve full speed. Would you recommend the mesh route, or 1 router that is strong enough to cover the whole 800+ sqft and ill still be able to get stable 500mbps , or is there any other way?
For wired backhaul between both mesh devices shall we use crossed-over cable?
I used a straight through cable and worked fine
@@Behfor Thank you. How about connection between main mesh AP and the main ISP router: shall we use crossed-over or straight-through cable?
Iran guys good!
Can I use Powerline for the purpose of "Backhauling" , I have some Asus Adapters I used a few years ago, but have since initiated "AiMesh" but would find these useful for "Backhauling" any thoughts? Safe? Effective?
Unfortunately I don't know the answer to that question because I haven't tried it myself! What I know though is that even if possible I personally wouldn't do that,. Because backhaul is a very important connection and it should use a reliable medium. In my experience the power line adapters do not provide reliable connections/speeds. Thanks.
@@Behfor Since the question, I have connected "2" TP-Link AV500 devices, AiMesh recognize's the adapters but Yes, "inconsistent" performance. Thanks!
Behfor, thank you for all your informative videos! I am having speed and buffering issue and intermittent connection on one of the nodes. I have setup Airmesh with TMobile Asus AC68 router with 2 nodes which are hardwired in from a switch. ISP Sonic fiber 1GBPS. The way it hooked up now is from Sonic ONTP to Primary router to switch to 2 nodes. When I do a speed test from the ONTP on my laptop with a cable, I get about 800 to 850 mbps. If I do it from the primary router, it drops to 400mbps or so. Ethernet cable is a new CAT6. 1)Any advice would be helpful.. 2) by adding an unmanaged switch between the primary router and the nodes affect the performance? Thank you and very appreciated for your help!
What it you have wifi6 router but backhaul ethernet port is only 1gbit. Doesn't then wired backhaul slow your network down? For example AX58U. It has 3000Mbit wireless capacity but only 1000Mbit wired capacity. Using wired backhaul would make it slower?
I would say even in your case the wired backhaul could be better than wireless. First of all that 3000Mbps is theoretical and in reality is a different story!
Second of all, wireless is a shared medium, if you are using the same band for the backhaul and for the clients, it's gonna be shared between all of them, and it's not like every one of them is supposed to get 3000Mbps (which btw is only a theoretical number). Add to that all the surprises that come with wireless (interference, noise, ...)
Overall, if you want to use wireless backhaul, it's best to dedicate a band to the backhaul and don't use it for the clients. This is something that can be done using Tri-band routers but gets tricky with dual band routers. Thanks.
In addition, the "speed" advertised is the result to sum the 2.4 and 5 Ghz bands theoretical speeds. Of course, one device is only able toactively connect to just one band. It is not possible to be connected to the two o three frequencies at the same time. Have in mind that this speed is the link speed. For example, in my case my wifi6 phone is connected to the router at 2400 Mbps, but in reality the max speed s about 900 Mbps, which is only achieved at few centimeters from the router.
Behfor, if you're willing to confirm an AiMesh home setup point for me, I'd appreciate it (one I can't find addressed explicitly elsewhere). I think I've determined (via trial/error) that a backhaul setup requires that the backhaul ethernet cable go from the node WAN port to a main router LAN port. Said differently, "the backhaul wired connection cannot include another network switch mid-stream (like a typical Netgear unmanaged switch or similar); rather, only a ethernet connection between router/node works for wired backhaul purposes." Would you say my conclusion here is accurate (all my testing seems to point this way), or am I wrong? -- Thank you!
You're absolutely right Tom, you're conclusion is accurate. You may want to check out this playlist which has useful videos regarding AiMesh. Thanks.
Many thanks Behfor, and I will do that. I'm chuckling because I now know that Google deletes/omits anything I write with an underscore format (guess they aren't fans of underlining for emphasis) ... like the two iterations of "direct" that are missing from my question. Regardless, I think you understood me anyway -- the point is, a DIRECT, UNINTERRUPTED port-to-port cable is required i.e. I can't expect the backhaul process to navigate a intermediary switch along the way. Thanks for your fast reply!
If you have more than 2 secondary routers on a wired backhaul do you connect all of them to the main router or can you connect one to the main router and say another to that one and then another to that one ect?
It's still better to connect them directly to the router because this way, there is a dedicated backhaul for each node. But if you daisy-chain them, all the traffic from the secondary nodes will have to go through the same backhaul. If you have many client devices, the backhaul connection might become a bottleneck. Hope that makes sense.
@@Behfor Thanks
@@Behfor Thanks
you seem to know a bunch about routers and mesh. Do you know an Asus device that can support multiple SSIDs APs and map each SSID to a different LAN port? The idea being to have different subnets and DHCP for each SSID.
what if you have tri-band and using blackhaul? wow the client will not suffer anymore 😇
I think so 😄
hello ask why i can attack only 9 channels i wanted with asus aimesh?
Where are you from?
If I could do a wired backhaul I wouldn't need a mesh network.
Hey Behfor Great video as usual - I have a RT AX86 and a RT AC68 - when I connect the AC68 as a node using wired backhaul when a device connects to it after a short while the CPU on the AX86 core 1 maxes out and the wifi network is unusable - If no devices connect to the node the cpu doesn’t spike - Have you come across this before ?
Hi John, I've never had that issue, but I haven't used any nodes recently. I'll try to connect an ac68u later today to see if I can reclicate the problem. Thanks
@@Behfor Thanks - I would be interested in your findings - I have tried both Merlin and official firmware - I am running Official at the moment - I have done quite a bit of testing and sending the Logs to Asus support over the past 4 week - got another reply back today and they said "there is an issue with the SOC or internal antennas" - I have ordered a replacement - Hopefully that will sort the problem
@@johnwatson1256 good to know that you tried different firmware. I'll let you know as soon as possible. Hope new router can fix the problem 👍
Hi again, just wanted to let you know I tried to simulate your AiMesh network and did not experience any weird CPU usage. In my test a client which was connected to the node was downloading a huge file and the CPU on the main router barely went any higher than 5%.
Both routers were running the latest factory firmware and I used a wired backhaul. Thanks.
@@Behfor Thanks for testing - I even bought another AC68 to test as a node but that did the same thing - Two routers using as nodes can't be faulty - Hopefully this new AX86 will be fine - Its not getting delivered till next week so will update you when I have tested