I Spectated A Cheater Who Was Facing ANOTHER Cheater In Overwatch 2
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Unironically, a lobby of only cheating players would go nuts
I need to see this.
i think theres custom games that emulate this concept lol
there's custom games for that, I've played it, it's not that fun. bc everyone has perfect aim, it comes down to who has better positioning and reaction time.
Jay3 did let his viewers do it for a video in custom games
No it wouldn't, it'd be more of a respawn simulator than entertainment
I had no idea that there was so much cheating in this game. I feel like I see it so rarely in my lobbies but I'm probably just not good enough to be able to tell lmao.
Even as flats stated, If you're a regular player in this game, You'd think nothing of it.
It's stuff only noticeable thru replay viewer.
Even high level people can't even tell unless they know to specifically look for it
and you might think they are a smurf
You don't se as much in actual play, though it def does happen. Lots of people are reviewing cheaters now like flats which makes it feel like there's SO MUCH MORE which, there's a lot sure, but as an individual you're not gonna see that many of them. That said I've gotten ppl calling me a cheater as soon as I get in game... for picking hitscan. Ppl will assume EVERY hitscan player is a cheater. (and then i do shit all game and im like man my cheats must suck)
I felt the same way, got a couple players that had me suspect they might be cheating but that was about it.
Until recently when I got killed a lot by a widow in the first round. 2nd round of control starts, they play widow on a very bad widow map yet keep murdering my team. I watch a kill cam at randon and I see a spinbot.
I’ve noticed a,or more cheaters in the past few months. There’s a lot of blatant cheaters and people who suddenly go afk then start having good aim the best is seeing spinbot cheaters like how are they not insta banned it’s not physically possible to do that.
Casual it’s here and there if I see something sus I’ll watch a replay and that’s how I know but comp me and my buddy tried to play a few in April 3 games in a row cheater after cheaters game 1 and 2 was the same widow spinbotting in a group of 4 and 3rd game was a aim lock zarya
Kiri's hacks were very well made. Especially rage hack part. Between heals and the fact it was not only snapping to a target but the lowest hp target to kill. Insane
A lot of people have no idea how complex cheats have become over the past decade. They're just expensive or completely private invite-only cheats. Idk about OW but Cod, Apex, and csgo all have private cheats with stuff like AI aimbot, use of game exploits, etc. Even unique forms of wallhacks that are subtle enough to not give you away as a cheater.
I would never be able to tell kiri is hacking in game. I'd be at most suspicious.
@@aouyiuor just know which forums to go to and donate X amount of money for private subs and then the best cheats usually have a monthly/weekly sub for real time updates and support etc
@@aouyiu Yeah 100%. A hacker who doesn't wanna be caught isn't gonna be caught by the AC or spectators. Just ban waves. On csgo I've screenrecorded my self live and didnt get caught.
Target prio isn't that "insane" it's more common than you would think cheaters are just dumb
Two cheaters facing off is like watching a Room Temp IQ Kaiju battle
literally any cgi fight from the 80's.
“Let them fight.”
room temp iq is CRAZY lmfaoo
Godsqueala vs king brawn
This reminds me of hvh fights in tf2, where you'd get someone with really subtle cheats accusing someone else of using really subtle cheats. Always ended the same way: one of them would dial it up to a million and start blatant rage hacking.
then it ends with 5 billion sentries on last
Honestly at least TF2 has easy ways combat rage hackers with sentries, uber, vaccinator, bonk Scouts, and taunts that alter your hitbox (most cheats will aim where your head is normally)
The first cheater is smart for not cranking his up, in a normal game the second cheater is most likely gonna be the only person to get reported.
And first one will continue to ruin games for other players.
@@MKirisameand the other cheater will view this as a win. Effectively eliminating competition
The ending to this was insane. Had never seen cheats go so absolutely wild. I feel really sad for these people who cheat like this in a videogame tho, at least the other Bap kept his cool and took the loss.
The spinbotting window was probably the worst I’ve seen
Same here. Their life really is that bad until they spend money to cheat in a FTP game jus to feel maybe competent in something for once maybe. Idk but I've seen people RAGE like fuck at me when I call em out. And when I still roll them omg it's like I destroyed something precious to them. I guess it's the remainder of their ego...
@@zafraz1077make your own cheats in c++ no money involved
Spin. Bot. Widow.
@@kreizixI hope she’s having a horrible day
The other cheater actually turned down his hacks because he knew damn well this game was going to go under review due to the rage hacking so he didnt wanna get caught in the crossfire so to speak
It sort of concerns me the idea that cheats might be pretty much impossible to detect if they just limit themselves.
Like imagine a cheat that only corrects your shots to headshots say, 30% percent of the time, and only if your crosshair was already close enough to a head to look natural.
If you already are aiming correctly for a headshot it does nothing.
Subtle enough to be undetected even when watching a replay, but still giving you a consistent edge that would allow you to climb significantly past your actual level of skill.
Similar ideas could be applied to walls, imagine walls but that only show you heroes that disappeared from your actual view in say, the past 5 seconds.
It would give you a definite advantage when people are peeking in and out of cover, sniper duels, or when chasing people that are entering buildings/cover, while preventing you from telling on yourself by tracking things that you couldn't really predict.
Things like that, that give you a small, low risk, but consistent edge.
Now the question is: how do we know this is not already happening? Tinfoil hat time
it is already happening lol, cheats like that dominate csgo
check out the new anti cheat being developed called “any brain”
There is a Cheat that will only lock on if your curser goes into the enemy's hitbox. And it only hits body shots. It will shoot for you at the perfect time, but it looks natural. I've come across it a few times and really, the only time you can tell is kill cam or replay.
already exsists called a triggerbot
That’s happening in plenty of games. Racing games have all kinds of mods that add x% traction or anything else to give you just the slightest advantage. A few pro sim racers have been caught in recent years
The funny thing at 9:22 is that if you slow it down you can see the Ana missed the sleep because mercy enter their field of view at the last second and the cheat tried to auto lock on mercy.
When matchmaking works perfectly and matches 2 support cheaters against each other.
As a support main i can confirm they arent hacking they are just embracing the spirit of offensive support
True these DPS players don't know about the kirki, brig dive
Damage damage damage 😂
You don't need to heal if your team doesn't get hit. And your team doesn't get hit if there's no enemy to hit them.
@@MercuryA2000
TRUUUUUE why heal when you can protect them with damage🛡
@@naliskun4222”Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting”
Definitely the best hacker video to date. EVERYTHING is here. Hilarious moments; a variety of heroes, skill levels, and levels of hacking; double cheaters; a long match; in depth analysis; and rage hacking. I loved this so much because these videos honestly got a bit redundant for me recently
never thought id say this but this video had me rooting for a cheater... I was on that Kiriko's side cheering like i was at a live football game whenever she got the Bap 😭
i mean, when both teams have a cheater, you can't really feel bad when one of the teams win. i just felt bad for the silver mercy trying to climb, i think the kiri did deserve the win bc the mercy was on their team
I wasn't rooting for either. They're both cheaters.
I just hope they both get reported by everyone else because as a Silver I don't want players like this in my lobbies.
I feel bad for the cheaters. Being so shit at a game they use cheats to feel good.
To those that didnt know about this. Even if you do have the setting with kiriko on where it "forces" you to throw all your papers, you can cancel by clicking it again.
The chances are pretty high. I was watching a company talk about their new AI anti cheat (which OW should totally use) and they mentioned the amount of cheaters is SO much higher than we think it is. This is so sad too. It's like, now when I die, I just think cheater instead of "Hey that person is just better." Which is what I used to think.
Same unfortunately :/ but rarely
remember when thinking that the enemy was cheating was loser mentality, and that its just us who was bad. now we literally have no idea.
Its become far more popular since Esports became a thing and how massive the CZcams/twitch gaming industry has become. When you can make serious money by playing video games your gonna do whatever it is to put you above the rest. I guarantee that atleast 60% of streamers are cheating. You probably have 30% of your casual games running some sort of cheat.
@@rinslergj1 Yea there is big time denial of how rampant cheating is for streamers. It's like believing athletes don't use PEDs more often than not. Theres millions of dollars on the line of course people are going to sell out for some quality stuff that isn't super sus.
You cant really determine actual numbers, but in most games around a third of the player base is cheating. One third is statistically 3 cheaters in one 5v5 match. The absolute majority of these players is subtle cheating, so most people cant really tell if its just game sense or wall hacking.
Damn, it’s actually scary how good cheating has gotten. Even knowing they’re cheating, the detectability of the cheats here is tiny.
Just my 2 cents, but one the reasons why they might not insta ban them even tho their system "MIGHT" detect it is because they want to gather more data on that specific cheat. Not sure if that's what is happening but yeah, it might be :p
It's been done that way and then they did a mass ban.
@@johnnymeans356then they asked for CZcams apology videos
That Kiriko cheater is giving off "the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I'll regret trusting you later" vibes
The Ana at first... wouldn't have known by her shots if I was in the middle of playing, but her very weird game sense would have caught my attention and I'd have looked after. Once they made the Kiriko/Bap switches though it became pretty obvious even before the full on rage hack.
25:37 holy shit lmao. The added salt with Bap saying “you want a bandage for that?”
I want to imagine there is a game out thier where both teams realize that they have a cheater and have the cheaters fight to the death for everyone else's amusement.
these videos have helped me be able to spot cheaters in my own game, played as junkrat today and had a soldier who always seemed to find me during my tires, would prefire coming around corners i was behind when i wasnt moving or making a sound one kill cam seemed a little off so i watched another one and the soldier breifly but fully tracked me thru a wall then took me 200-0 without missing a single bullet, before i would of only looked at the aim and would of chalked the first funny kill cam up to luck or smurfing but knowing what to look for and putting everything together has made me able to spot them a lot easier
Love your stuff mate
This honestly makes me feel like all those times I get suspicious about that Hanzo in gold hitting just a few too many headshots, I might have playing against a cheater.
Nah you're playing against a hanzo. hanzo has projectile headshot hitbox which is larger and hanzo spams chokes a lot so they get lucky a ton in gold especially
trust me bro just assume they aren't. Itll make playing the game more enjoyable
I'm so happy Flats got sponsored by NVidia 💚
Hackers spamming voice lines is the most cringe thing i ever seen. I get pissed easy when playin ow so this would ABSOLUTELY WORK ME. Id be livid.
Yeah you can spam "children behave" when you ACTUALLY dominate haha
They do it just to get a reaction from people. What's truly annoying is how in the final round the red team was still pushing the cart while their bap is spawn camping 1v5. Anything for just a tiny bit of SR
Sometimes voiceline spam is kinda funny (winston has some great ones) but that “children, behave” is so goddamn annoying
@KikiCatMeow sombras boop is also pretty funny especially as I widow main I love when I don't just get the ultra sweat sombra but a fun sombra who toys with me a bit
@@rinslergj1 wym they had their own cheater. atp it was just the battle of cheaters
I feel like they’re both just, “oh this guys is really good, need to crank up cheats.” 😂😂
Cheating is bad don’t get me wrong, but it’s refreshing to see a cheater who doesn’t get his ego hurt from dying a few timed
Don’t give them any props, they don’t deserve it
Honestly I wish Flats went back to see if the kiriko was cheating the entire time. Because just from the looks of it. It looks like he was more concerned with baiting the bap into full on rage hacking then he was winning the match. Now whether it was because he only cheats against other cheaters or if he cheats all the time and was just trying to get bap banned so he doesn't face more cheater so he can win easier idk.
@@ddude765if th dude turned on it just coz he realized red team dude was cheating… and use it just in those cases… i mean…ok
@@GodsDissapointmentimagine your support goes "hey, I think their support is hacking. I'm gonna turn on my hacks, so don't expect me to heal, susu, or do anything except make that guys day worse."
@@GodsDissapointment having cheats installed = deserve permaban.
This has been by far the funniest and most insane cheater vids ive seen. Flats NEVER ceases to entertain me with his phenomenal content and his funny commentary
I've only seen one that ranks up there with this one... can't remember if it was a Flats video or an Emongg video but both sides of a Rialto map had someone playing two accounts on it. So for both the attack team and the defend team you'd see one player go afk, then suddenly become active while another went ask, and rinse and repeat.
Not a great sign to the future of this game when you got 2 separate cheaters in a silver lobby.
yesterday i had a game on rialto and on the enemy team there was an ashe cheater with a mercy pocket. as a mercy i dont really get headshotted often but i was forced to not heal my team anymore because the split second i peaked id die, and my team was pushing in. my teammate was like "my team isnt playing anymore because an ashe can hit shots" yeah when every single shot on me and in their potg was a locking headshot i wont really want to play anymore
I’m interested in what cheats in OW will behave like if Blizzard adopts Activision’s Ricochet Anti-Cheat, and starts putting hallucinations everywhere.
If you turn on aimbot you suddenly start hearing That Melody and hearing sigma whispering crazily into your ear
@@machine7angel to be clear, hallucinations are a term coined by CoD devs. Basically, it’s an invisible entity that can be placed around corners that emulate player behavior and detects whether someone with aim or wall hacks is attempting to interact with them.
Their entire point is that regular players won’t know they’re there, so if anyone tries to shoot them, they’re 100% hacking.
@@RiverM8rix I've never heard of this but am now very curious.
@@vellathewench if you want to read more about it, the CoD devs have a blog post detailing their Season 4 Warzone plans. I would post the link, but I think CZcams auto deletes comments like that.
@@RiverM8rix Any cheat worth its salt isn't going to fall for such tactics. Visual based cheats that don't touch game memory is the correct approach. You just have the program look for whatever image you want to have them shoot at and have the aimhack lock onto that. Rather then training the aimbot to lock onto a color you train it to lock onto specific geometric shapes and aim within an area of said shapes, allow for some inaccuracy at a random interval and your going to avoid detection if done properly.
I find it funny that they were both on support🤣
It's more unexpected out of a support i guess, I mean the last thing anyone would expect is for a support to just whip out full on aimbot LMAO. Like the fact it's been done with mercy is even more hilarious.
Though there's noticeable differences in this video, you can tell the kiriko cheater wasn't going overboard with it at certain points, and it wasn't fully up either. Meanwhile the baptiste guy is just full on locking onto heads lmfao.
It's just really funny if anything.
This reminds me of the old days (I'm only 18) in like Bo3 and Bo2 when ethical cheaters existed where they would have hacks and use them to 1v1 unethical cheaters while the rest of the lobby either continued knowing that the unethical cheater had to suffer or went afk and watched the brawl of the titans.
Still happens in Roblox to this day
The fact the anti cheat didn’t detect that like is it even in the game at this point?
Honestly, as long as we keep getting these vids out of it I personally don’t even care ☠️
i find these videos super interesting! really fascinating to see the subtle differences, thanks flats
Watching a streamer transition to reading sponsors makes me happy. Watching a person successfully making a living doing what they love makes me warm and fuzzy.
I’m the opposite lol. I don’t know why but I have an ingrained hatred of advertisements of any sort. But I don’t begrudge people making a living. I’m weird lol.
Thank you so much for these videos and talking things through, I’ve suspected cheaters a few times before but didn’t catch little nuances here and there or even think about reading into it beyond just snapping aim. Hopefully I’ll have better luck seeing in the future!
this makes me feel better about my casual bronze gameplay
"My man is farming sponsors!!!" -Flats
But also true about Flats. Keep it up!!!
Flats I love your content man. You keep inspiring me each day!! Keep up the good work man!
keep up the good stuff, love your videos.
I love seeing these. Long time lurker. As a top .5% MOBA player its super easy for me to know if someone is scripting (hacking) in those games. Its awesome to see your knowledge of FPS and just how even small things can reveal someone is cheating. I hear of cheaters all the time in FPS but I never want to jump on the implication they are so these are fun dives.
Change my mind. There is no anti-cheat system in OW2.
Flats got sponsored by Nvidia? He’s really makin waves in the world! Keep at it, my man! 🎉
Last round Easyon's Bap tracking was so good it gave me Gamecube Metroid Prime lock-on nostalgia.
Great coverage!
Just shows how important game-sense also is. I bet these cheaters would be hardstuck even with cheats.
flats the only guy who can add a solid 8 minutes to an entire 21 minute replay and it still be entertaining
I love how we can reference the wiggle that killed tarkov in an overwatch setting
The only time I track squishies through shield is on projectile heroes, since there's a chance the barrier comes down and I get a hit off asap but still do damage to shield to help break it.
Congrats on getting sponsor from the big dogs. Out of all choices, Nvidia has chosen you and you should honor especially since your CZcams channel isn’t really base on being a tech guy or pc builds. Question, I played over watch less than a month and so far I’m like a Reaper main with some Hanzo and Junkrat plays time to time. Any advice to get better with these three character but more so for Reaper! Thanks
about time they face each other for once instead of it being one sided lmao - they bring out the best/worst in each other xD
Makes me happy to see you get a sponsor!
He's slowing upgrading from a bench to a folding chair to a office chair and finally, a gaming chair. That's what he AFKs for. to swap them out.
Bap's not cheating, they're just Korean
The fact this guy was straight on rage hacking, no misses, 180 instaflips for headshots.... And the system didn't detect any cheating? Overwatch doesn't actually have any Anti-Cheat confirmed.
As soon as they both went bap in the 4th round i was ROLLING 🤣🤣 also i LOVE the Pyrite Town theme in the background 💙
The first ever sponser I sat through and actually listened too
Personally, I like to see yt creators getting sponsors for their videos. It's a sign of rising success and longevity of the channel! Congrats Flats
As an ex cheater the matchmaking begins putting you in lobbies against other cheaters, there was a point in time that I was only VS other cheaters.
Flats, Your content is so good. Been here since 2020
the 2 kiri head shots at 15:05 reaction was everything kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Kinda wish flats went to see if Cheater two was cheating in the beginning of the game or not because it doesn’t seem like it.
If theres a cheater on each team, does it make it a fair game?
flats must have made a big bag for this NVIDIA sponsorship. happy for my man
Happy to see you got new sponsors flats !
Homeless made a great video on modern cheating and for anyone wondering a good estimate on the amount of people with at least some advantage through cheats is about 30%
can you link it? cant fi d anything when i search for it
30% of players cheating means that 97% of games would have at least a cheater... Seems unlikely
czcams.com/video/LkmIItTrQP4/video.html is mostly soft cheats like a basic aim assist or walls and it changes from game to game but in most competitive fps games generally 30% of players are cheating
when the one bap started blatantly rage hacking, the better cheater came out of spawn and waved at him. that was the better cheater saying goodbye to the rager's account. you crank it up that much and youre getting banned. the better cheater knows that, so he didnt crank his up to match. he gave up the match but he's probably gonna keep his account and keep climbing with his cheats
24:44 Easyon really just said "I am become death, destroyer of worlds"
You can tell after Bap go afk as well that they were switching tabs, clicking back into overwatch and firing once
I'm gay but the comments will hide it
we'll see
Not well right now
Nope
This guy at the start played like a friend of mine who has thousands of hours in aim trainers.
Every game he plays he has godly aim, but never bothers to learn the actual mechanics of the game, he never bothers to learn as his aim usually can carry him to at least the mid ranks and thats about the time he gets bored and moves to another game.
One of the most entertaining OW gameplays I've seen in so long
loving the music choice for the sponsor
i loved when in CS:GO when you got reportted your "reputation" went down and at a certain point u basically qued only against cheaters so it was a contest who can crank the cheat up the highest
This inspires me to check over matches more. I had weird encounter of a Sigma who was fighting a Winston and Orisa while I was Sombra way behind him fighting a Torbjorn. And what was strange is his camera movement was.. weird. Like it jerk him 90 degree by 90 degree straight at me, kills me while mid fighting the Winston and Orisa. I wish I could have saved the match spectator mode to show
"this guys ego got hurt" LMAO nice vid
I’ve had NVIDIA on my PC for almost two years now, I got it downloaded whenever this one dude fixed my computer… but I had no idea that was even a setting in Overwatch…
You have GOT to be kidding me 😭
Thank you Flats for letting me know of this info, I’ve had it enabled all this time, but not with Boost 😅
I love the Pokémon Colosseum music in the background it’s my childhood lol
Dude had no chill at the end
Easyon at the end is the human embodiment of the phrase "I don't have time for this".
I didnt know about NVIDIA reflex boosting before the ad even though I got a 3060 ti. Game actually runs so smooth now its crazy
a decent amount of my games have people exactly like these 2 cheaters and it ruins the fun
The "Oh god!" at 25:10 is hilarious lmaoo
I just saw the live stream VOD segment that talked about this video. I gotta see this
the detectvie music gave a really good vibe because this case was especially hard
When cheaters collide it becomes a game of who can use their cheats better.
Lovely sponsor. I never knew about the nvidia setting. Thank you ❤
Lets go!! The sponsorship, proud of you buddy
I actually had a cheater in No Limits Arcade game mode. They played Kiriko, hit every headshot, and they were the ones in the kill feed most of the time with just headshot kills. Even killed us 3 mercies in valk with just head shots. They also kept flanking as well. Idk why people like this even exist. They were silver 4 player too.
And yet people will say, nah they're just good. Top 500 players wouldn't complain about not being able to hit a valking Mercy if that were the case.
You know that game in "good state" if in same game you have 2 cheaters from 10 players in total .
Yup, 20% of the players cheating. Sounds worse when you think of it that way.
this actually is so entertaining to watch
The one guy cranked it so hard I was having trouble following his tracking
Torbs ball fire now makes his turret lock onto the person you shot (like Ashe can with bob)
bummed flats didn't notice they actually took each other out at 18:48
I like how every time the Bap goes afk to crank the cheats up, you can tell that he clicks back into the game from the cheats as he primary fires and then continues to move
Thanks for your video Flats. The anti cheat in OW just seems to be on a way lower level than the cheats themselves. I have had to report so many cheaters recently it's insane and that is with watching replays to confirm multiple times. Most of them are subtle cheats but they let it slip from time to time. Replays even jitter and bug out too. I don't know what's going on there with the devs but majority if not all don't get banned or even a warning. I send game codes and replay time stamps for proof.
Absolute JOKE they are, both cheaters and the devs for not policing.
Thanks again for all of your content.
the specialist song made this feel like i found a quality 4 item on isaac lmaoo