The XV-5080 sounds crisper and cleaner, while the JV-880 is warmer, but also seems more dynamic. It seems to have more depth and movement in the sounds. This is a great card though, probably the best of the lot. I have it in my JV-1080 and will never part with it. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you for your comment, good call! I also had the feeling the sound on the JV-880 was a bit more gritty. A tough call whether to keep it or pass it on. Yes, the card is amazing, both the samples and the patches.
The 880 may sound thicker by itself, but once you start stacking these patches in a mix, things will change in context drastically. There will be a lot less trying to fit an instrument into the mix with the 5080 because the sounds just fit together like puzzle pieces. You will see all the advantages of the 5080 during post mixing and appreciate how modern this unit sounds once you compose a complete production.
This board was way ahead of its time when it came out. It was very difficult to get decent analog sounds out of Roland digital synths such as the JV series. It was especially great for pads.
@@LeadingMotive I suggest you try to buy asap as prices of the JD are going up... (I'm a lucky bastard with 3 JD units, all with Vintage cards - will never sell) But I also think that in a final music production, no one will be able to tell whether a JV, JD or XV was used...
@8:55 - On the JV-880 you have have to first transfer the expansion card into the internal memory or data card and you will be limited to only 64 patches per bank. Unlike the JV1080 and above models one can just install the expansion card and all patches automatically load into the synth and are available via the display menu and you don't have to transfer patches into memory. I have been using JV-880 and JV1080 for over two decades and when I bought a JV2080 it definetely was a little britle especially in patches that have bright harmonics. Cheers
Yes, I agree that the lack of direct patch access is a bit of a nuisance and handled better on later models. Never had a JV-1080/2080, I'd be tempted to test them but I'm running out of space :)
@@henrybrant-lf7ge Probably yes, I never had the 1080 but with the later JV-1010/3080/5080 models you can access all patches directly. If you however have a JD-990, then you get access to different patches done specially for the 990.
among all the SuperNatural and ACB and Zencore synths, Juno DS is still keeping their old nameless PCB engine alive. I wonder why Roland still hasnt come up with a snazzy marketing name for it 😆
To me the JV-880 sounds punchier / more dynamic than the XV-5080. I also own a XV-5080 and XP-50 (which is the same as the JV-1080) and used to own a JV-80 before getting the XP-50. When I switched to the XP-50 I also remember noticing that some of my patches didn't sound as punchy as they did from the JV-80. The XV-5080 sounds a bit cleaner in the highs than the XP-50, but also lacks the punch of the JV-80.
This seems to be very common to Roland gear with same sound generators but from different era's. Seen several of comparisons of the original hardware like the JV-80 but also different synths like the MKS instruments. Somehow the effect sections like chorus/flanger's etc sound more lush and deeper spatial in the original hardware, even the newer instruments and modules often have better DA converters etc. its not always beneficial to the sound quality. My guess is its because the original IC's doing the effects and modulators etc. is recreated in more modern chip tech which is just too precise and don't have the random quality of the old chips used. You also see it in many other brands of synths. For Aficionado's the original DX-7 is also still the best sounding when compared to both Yamaha's own different iterations of the std 6 op. FM setup and also all other brands take on them. Also the fact that the newer designs of DX7 and modules featured 16 bit instead of 12bit DA's can make them sound "thinner" and with more treble because of the more acurate converters. Also, wear of caps and discrete analog audio components in the outputs can make the older versions sound different.
That punch is there, but loading factory patches i`m afraid sounds different as you described it. With tiny bit re programming you can make XV-5080 have that low end push.
If you want the Vintage Synth expansion you can get the M-VS1 which takes up a lot less space than a JV-880. It's even an inch shorter than an XV-5050. But maybe I'm the only one who likes shallow rack synths.
Good point! Rack width is the same, but the M-VS1 is less deep. They're quite rarely for sale though. Also IIRC there was a small difference in the patches (percussion) compared to the card. Was it so that patch changes cannot be saved on the M-VS1?
My preferences: #1 jv 880. #2 jv 880. #3 jv 880! #4 xv 5080!. #5 jv 880. #6 jv 880 #7 xv 5080! #8 xv5080! #9 jv 880! The aliasing sounds are very cool! I have both jv880 and xv5080. will never part with either, That being said, a JD-990 might be another acquisition if the price is right.
Nice list! It's true there is no straightforward "better" or "worse" answer here. A JD-990 would be nice, but prices have gotten insane. I'll make do with what I have :)
@@LeadingMotive Agreed. Not having a JD 990 is no reason to have regrets. And even at today's prices, a jv 880 in good condition is worth paying $275 for.
JV880's used to be plentiful on eBay, Craigslist & Reverb for between $90 - $150. These days if you can find them, they usually start at $295 and just go up in price. Probably due to Brian Eno, Patrick O'hearn and Jan Hammer extolling their warmth and beautiful bottom end...
It's crazy somehow. The JV880 has been around for ages and didn't change. Now suddenly it's become the hottest thing. It's not even rare. Maybe there's just a lack of rack gear nowadays :)
Yes. That being said, if you need to spend $250 nowadays [ March 2024 ] for a jv880 then BUY IT! Quality is remembered LONG after the price has been forgotten!
this is only true if youve never heard of an EQ. XV-5080 has better converters but with an EQ you can make them sound "meaty". seriously, its amazing how many people make a big deal out of older, inferior converters not realizing its just rolling off some of the top end which you can do with any EQ.
jv 880 adds a musical "aliasing" due to it's DAC. The XV 5080 does not have the aliasing. But my xv5080 I will never part with, as it has a fantastic sound.
That's a good question actually. Unfortunately (or fortunately for my family) I do not own any of the originals to compare. But as the expansion card is sample-based, I would assume the originals offer much more sound variation than either JV or XV.
JV-880 has the same sound engine as JD-990, so actually JV-880 doesn't belong to the JV line. JV-x080s and XV-x0x0 were downgrade in relation to JD-990 and JV-880 in terms of sound. Therefore it's fairly to consider JV-880 as a JD-990's little brother. That explains why JV-880 sounds so good.
@@jakob5947 Don Solaris and my ears. Moreover, when it comes to bass, I'd prefer 880 over 990 cause 32 kHz converters of 880 produce more punchy bass. In addition, JD-990 and JV-880 have hi-fi operational amplifiers and converters, which are no longer being installed into synths neither by Roland nor by other synthmakers. The 2nd half of 90's was a watershed in history of synthmaking. JD-990 was the last good sounding synth from Roland, Trinity was the last good sounding synth from Korg and EX-5 was the last good sounding synth from Yamaha. After, the synth race has begun. Quality of sound wasn't the point.
To me it sounds like the XV-5080 got some improvements in the maths to prevent/reduce things like aliasing, but it's that little harshness that makes the JV-880 sound more ... how would one describe ... direct. This is my guess without knowing the internals. Either way they are both very enjoyable!
The sound engine of these two modules is totally different, but patches from the card sound extremely similar. XV is more detailed high end, JV has darker tone with slightly more low end.
I remember my old mate at keyboards playing probably thru a JV or an XP using this espansion and Another one, with Farfisa and Hammond samples (I Don’t remember the exact name (maybe you can help me). Those sounds were huge and cutting through the mix in so rich and powerful way I’ve never listened again to sth similar.
The other card probably was "Keyboards of the 60s & 70s" (SR-JV80-08), a very good selection of organs and keyboards for live performance. The samples of both Vintage (04) and Keyboards (08) cards were then re-issued in the newer expansion card SRX-07 Ultimate Keys. Although this card does not contain the original patches, if used in a Roland XV machine you can upload the old patches and make them use the new card (works flawlessly in my XV-5080) which effectively gives you both old cards as they were. Hope that helps!
Interesting! I recently bought both the JV-1080 and the JV-2080 with the SR-JV80-04 card, but haven't done a proper comparison between those two. I expect them to sound very similar anyway since they are in the middle of the 2 devices you compared.
There is a limitation with the 880: It cannot play sounds which use ring modulation properly, which are on some cards. It does not have these 'algorithms' that the D50 or the JV1080 have. Strictly parallel dancing here.
Happy to have been of help! No, unfortunately none of the cards are contained in the XV-5080. The only ones that contained some cards' data were the XP keyboards and the JV-1010.
a lot of people make a big deal out of minor differences in EQ profile of these synths. people claim that older DA converters are superior because they're "warmer" but theyre actually inferior and rolling off higher frequencies. the relatively newer units like 5080 and Integra 7 are labelled as "sterile" but they're actually just clearer sounding. none of those people making a big deal about these older DA converters have heard of an EQ. EQ is the most useful effect of them all.
Fantastic video!!! To me JV-880 is warm!! Note at test of 5:18. The low end of JV-880 is fantastic. I love this module!! What expansion do you think that is better for JV-880? Thank you for share!!!
Thanks for your reply! A tough question, there are many good SR-JV80 boards so it will depend on what you plan to use it for: Vintage (04) has a great selection of synth samples/patches. For retro-pop there is the Pop board (01) and the Super Sound Set (07). For New Age you can use the World Expansion Board (05). Or go for old-school Dance (06), Techno (11), or Hip-Hop (12). The Orchestral Expansion (02) is great, but nowadays maybe a bit dated. And finally, to update the JV-880 with a good selection of more contemporary samples get the Session expansion (09), although it would probably be cheaper to buy a JV-1010 with the 09 expansion built-in.
@@LeadingMotive , thank you for your rich reply! I´m using the Experience II and Experience III in this unit. You can not read the patches however these boards have a good set of waves and some of these waves comes from Vintage Synth board. I used the "POP" a lot but to create my own patches I think that Experience give a good set of oportunities. In my JV-880 is not possible read patches from 200 when with "Session" board. In my JV-1080 works perfectly. Do you have this problem in your JV-880 with Session board? One more question? With the Memory Card how many patches you can store at same time, 128 or 64?
@@lecleto According to the instruction leaflet, the Session board offers 200 patches for the JV-880 and 255 for JV-1080 etc. so this seems to be normal. The memory card has room for 64 patches, so together with the JV-880's internal memory you can access 128 slots at the same time.
@@LeadingMotive one more time thank you! I thinked that my "Session" board had a problem! Good to know that is normal. Thank you for your information about memory card. I created a patch editor for Roland JV-880. It´s a JV PatchEd. At program I created a part that calls patches from card however, how I don´t have a memory card, I never really tested this. At program I created a 64 slots with C1 to C64. If you like to edit patches it´s a tool that will help you a lot. Here is the link: ctrlr.org/jv-patched-roland-jv-880-patch-editor/ One more time thank you! Best regards from Brazil!
I think that sometimes the XV-5080 presets are sunk deep into effects. Too much! It looses clarity and punch. I bet that if edited on effects the 5080 would sound even better.
@@LeadingMotive Thanks for the reply. I can now say for me, if were on a desert island with an XV-5080 and the SRX 07 card I would be plenty happy. ha ha
Good question, probably circumventing old DA-converters would sound more transparent, then again you probably lose some of the character. Such a comparison could be an idea for another video someday!
I usually prefer the analogue output of these old digital units. But maybe there are examples where digital sounds better. I guess there is something to those converters that make these units sound nicer for me.
Hello 👋🏿 help🐲 help🌝 how do I find my sounds? I am afraid there is something wrong with my module xv5080. I installed srx and I luck plastics clips so it's not pushed down in anyway, although I can, then it will be mounted a little bit sideway. Well, where do I click to find sounds? I can't click my exp bottom in any of modes? Does that mean something is not working right?
On the XV's main screen, press the SYSTEM button and then F6 ("Info"). This shows you the installed cards. If you cannot see any, they are probably not installed correctly. The plastic clips must be *turned* so that the cards' holes fit through them, then push the card down until the connector is in all the way (not sideways/tilted).
@@LeadingMotive thanks so much I am going to try this next time. I was just afraid to push so I just placed it kinda there. I don't have plastic turns, I only have plastic sticks hanging though
Nice for the hobbyists who use old cards. For the smart people, buy an integra. Save a lot of money and you have super quality, more of this time. The charm of the lesser quality, is not worth it.
The Integra unfortunately does not contain these SR-JV patches of the "Vintage" card (only its samples plus newer SRX patches as part of one SRX expansion). And some SR-JV cards' samples are not contained in the Integra at all. I use the Integra myself, but have an XV-5080 with the missing cards.
I have an integra, a 1080 with Asia and orchestral 1 & 2 cards, and a 990 with the vintage synth card (the JD gets an extra set of patches that aren’t available in any other synth). I have no regrets.
I own both the old SR-JV 04 Vintage card (two of those actually) as well as an SRX 07 - The latter is supposed to contain all waveforms but I found a few of the original, ones I used - missing! Maybe it is on there but simply renamed?... Makes reassigning sounds to a newer synth a pain in the @ss. I'll never let go of my old SR-JV boards though ;)
Thank you for the insight! Really? That's a bummer! I assumed the sample set was unchanged, as Roland claims, since the SR-JV patches all work with the SRX samples. Though it might be that some samples remained unused on the SR-JV and then got dropped by Roland when releasing the SRX board. Really odd.
Sorry I think you are confusing the JV-880 for the JD-800. The JD-800 and JD-990 have access to alot of more patches with the vintage card installed. JV-880 vs XV-5080 should be quite similar.
Not confused. Just happened to get hold of a JD-880 (edit: of course I meant JV-880) and was curious to see how it would compare to my XV-5080. I'm not comparing these to a JV-800 nor to a JV-990 here.
The XV-5080 and JV-880 were similar. I was surprised to not hear any MFX used on the XV-5080. The JD-800 predates the XP/JV series is not compatible with the SR-HV expansion boards at all. The JD-990 is a unique hybrid of the JD-800 and JV series with no keyboard equivalent.
Yes, you do have more parameters to work with. The XV is two generations further than the early JVs (JV -> Super JV -> XV). The XV series also has true stereo samples and higher polyphony. But still the JV-880 is impressive and much more editable than its predecessor, the U-20/220 (which I also own).
I mean the XV-5080 is the only one at 44.1KHz but otherwise yeah, shouldn't be any different it's all digital stuff. Got myself an XV-5080 last month and I'm loving the sounds. For me, not actually being alive for too long in the 90s, I don't think I'm so ruined by the sounds, I just have fond memories of the tail end of the JV-1080's use in slightly solder media I consumed. But I have to say, I was gonna get an XV-2020 which has a similar shape and size to the JV-1010, I think I'm mainly just happy that I have a big display for all of the complex menus.
Absolutely! But if you're looking for the cheapest host for the Vintage card, it's either the JV-880 or the JV-1010 (which *is* basically a 2080 in a smaller box). Of course JV-1080/2080/XV-3080/5080 are better for front-panel editability. The JV/XV series also gives direct access to the card patches without the need to load them to memory.
Hopefully this comparison was of interest - feel free to ask if you have any questions!
The XV-5080 sounds crisper and cleaner, while the JV-880 is warmer, but also seems more dynamic. It seems to have more depth and movement in the sounds. This is a great card though, probably the best of the lot. I have it in my JV-1080 and will never part with it. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you for your comment, good call! I also had the feeling the sound on the JV-880 was a bit more gritty. A tough call whether to keep it or pass it on. Yes, the card is amazing, both the samples and the patches.
JV880 = winner. more bass, more dirt - luv it much more!
Agreed. my jv880 is here to stay.
The 880 may sound thicker by itself, but once you start stacking these patches in a mix, things will change in context drastically. There will be a lot less trying to fit an instrument into the mix with the 5080 because the sounds just fit together like puzzle pieces. You will see all the advantages of the 5080 during post mixing and appreciate how modern this unit sounds once you compose a complete production.
Agreed. It comes down to where the sounds are placed. An xv5080 can sound "better placed" than a jv880. Or even better that a JD 990 for that matter.
This board was way ahead of its time when it came out. It was very difficult to get decent analog sounds out of Roland digital synths such as the JV series. It was especially great for pads.
This is why I’ll never get rid of my JV-1080. There’s magic inside it’s hardware.
Yes. In the early 1990s the JV-1080 [along with the JD990] were the go-to sounds.
JV 1080 has really good freq and resonance filters.
Sounds good to me, I have the Roland XP-50 fitted with the SR-JV80-04 sounds the same, cheers.
I know this is a couple years old but thank you for doing this I was wondering exactly the same thing
Put the Vntage card in the JD990, and you have an extra 128 JD patches that sound awesome !!! The JD sounds way better than any JV/ XV module.
I was actually planning to do that, but so far those 990ies I've come across were incredibly expensive.
@@LeadingMotive I suggest you try to buy asap as prices of the JD are going up... (I'm a lucky bastard with 3 JD units, all with Vintage cards - will never sell) But I also think that in a final music production, no one will be able to tell whether a JV, JD or XV was used...
The JV-880 hands down has more bottom end than any of the JV series after it.
I prefer the bottom end on the 880 - richer, smoother.
Yes. Agreed, Although the xv 5080 is no slouch in the sound department.
@8:55 - On the JV-880 you have have to first transfer the expansion card into the internal memory or data card and you will be limited to only 64 patches per bank. Unlike the JV1080 and above models one can just install the expansion card and all patches automatically load into the synth and are available via the display menu and you don't have to transfer patches into memory. I have been using JV-880 and JV1080 for over two decades and when I bought a JV2080 it definetely was a little britle especially in patches that have bright harmonics. Cheers
Yes, I agree that the lack of direct patch access is a bit of a nuisance and handled better on later models. Never had a JV-1080/2080, I'd be tempted to test them but I'm running out of space :)
@@henrybrant-lf7ge Probably yes, I never had the 1080 but with the later JV-1010/3080/5080 models you can access all patches directly.
If you however have a JD-990, then you get access to different patches done specially for the 990.
Thanks for the comparison. I didn't hear a difference)
Never used the hardware but it sure is nice to have the sounds of the 5080 easily loadable in my Juno DS.😁🎵🎹🎶Play On
among all the SuperNatural and ACB and Zencore synths, Juno DS is still keeping their old nameless PCB engine alive. I wonder why Roland still hasnt come up with a snazzy marketing name for it 😆
To me the JV-880 sounds punchier / more dynamic than the XV-5080. I also own a XV-5080 and XP-50 (which is the same as the JV-1080) and used to own a JV-80 before getting the XP-50. When I switched to the XP-50 I also remember noticing that some of my patches didn't sound as punchy as they did from the JV-80. The XV-5080 sounds a bit cleaner in the highs than the XP-50, but also lacks the punch of the JV-80.
This seems to be very common to Roland gear with same sound generators but from different era's. Seen several of comparisons of the original hardware like the JV-80 but also different synths like the MKS instruments. Somehow the effect sections like chorus/flanger's etc sound more lush and deeper spatial in the original hardware, even the newer instruments and modules often have better DA converters etc. its not always beneficial to the sound quality. My guess is its because the original IC's doing the effects and modulators etc. is recreated in more modern chip tech which is just too precise and don't have the random quality of the old chips used. You also see it in many other brands of synths. For Aficionado's the original DX-7 is also still the best sounding when compared to both Yamaha's own different iterations of the std 6 op. FM setup and also all other brands take on them. Also the fact that the newer designs of DX7 and modules featured 16 bit instead of 12bit DA's can make them sound "thinner" and with more treble because of the more acurate converters. Also, wear of caps and discrete analog audio components in the outputs can make the older versions sound different.
That punch is there, but loading factory patches i`m afraid sounds different as you described it. With tiny bit re programming you can make XV-5080 have that low end push.
If you want the Vintage Synth expansion you can get the M-VS1 which takes up a lot less space than a JV-880. It's even an inch shorter than an XV-5050. But maybe I'm the only one who likes shallow rack synths.
Good point! Rack width is the same, but the M-VS1 is less deep. They're quite rarely for sale though. Also IIRC there was a small difference in the patches (percussion) compared to the card. Was it so that patch changes cannot be saved on the M-VS1?
My preferences: #1 jv 880. #2 jv 880. #3 jv 880! #4 xv 5080!. #5 jv 880. #6 jv 880 #7 xv 5080! #8 xv5080! #9 jv 880! The aliasing sounds are very cool!
I have both jv880 and xv5080. will never part with either,
That being said, a JD-990 might be another acquisition if the price is right.
Nice list! It's true there is no straightforward "better" or "worse" answer here.
A JD-990 would be nice, but prices have gotten insane. I'll make do with what I have :)
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Agreed. Not having a JD 990 is no reason to have regrets. And even at today's prices, a jv 880 in good condition is worth paying $275 for.
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And. . . the JV 880 has two more voices than the JD 990!
JV880's used to be plentiful on eBay, Craigslist & Reverb for between $90 - $150. These days if you can find them, they usually start at $295 and just go up in price. Probably due to Brian Eno, Patrick O'hearn and Jan Hammer extolling their warmth and beautiful bottom end...
It's crazy somehow. The JV880 has been around for ages and didn't change. Now suddenly it's become the hottest thing. It's not even rare. Maybe there's just a lack of rack gear nowadays :)
Yes. That being said, if you need to spend $250 nowadays [ March 2024 ] for a jv880 then BUY IT! Quality is remembered LONG after the price has been forgotten!
JV-880 is a waaaay better because of its meaty converters.
this is only true if youve never heard of an EQ. XV-5080 has better converters but with an EQ you can make them sound "meaty". seriously, its amazing how many people make a big deal out of older, inferior converters not realizing its just rolling off some of the top end which you can do with any EQ.
Agree. As mentioned on the Don Solaris site, the JV 880 has added musical magic due to it's aliasing artifacts.
Sounds like the 5080 has a higher quality output. Wonder if you could get the same jv-880 "sound" by low passing some of the presets/tweaking...
I definitely 'prefer' the sound of the XV-5080. (Somewhat more 'open' overall.) :)
jv 880 adds a musical "aliasing" due to it's DAC. The XV 5080 does not have the aliasing. But my xv5080 I will never part with, as it has a fantastic sound.
Am I the only one who thinks that the JV880 sounds more "true to the originals" than the XV5080?
That's a good question actually. Unfortunately (or fortunately for my family) I do not own any of the originals to compare. But as the expansion card is sample-based, I would assume the originals offer much more sound variation than either JV or XV.
JV-880 has the same sound engine as JD-990, so actually JV-880 doesn't belong to the JV line. JV-x080s and XV-x0x0 were downgrade in relation to JD-990 and JV-880 in terms of sound. Therefore it's fairly to consider JV-880 as a JD-990's little brother. That explains why JV-880 sounds so good.
@@the.punisher.of.stupidity where do you have this information from? :)
@@jakob5947 Don Solaris and my ears. Moreover, when it comes to bass, I'd prefer 880 over 990 cause 32 kHz converters of 880 produce more punchy bass. In addition, JD-990 and JV-880 have hi-fi operational amplifiers and converters, which are no longer being installed into synths neither by Roland nor by other synthmakers. The 2nd half of 90's was a watershed in history of synthmaking. JD-990 was the last good sounding synth from Roland, Trinity was the last good sounding synth from Korg and EX-5 was the last good sounding synth from Yamaha. After, the synth race has begun. Quality of sound wasn't the point.
To me it sounds like the XV-5080 got some improvements in the maths to prevent/reduce things like aliasing, but it's that little harshness that makes the JV-880 sound more ... how would one describe ... direct. This is my guess without knowing the internals. Either way they are both very enjoyable!
They sounds totally different, what is good on one hands side, with different module you could get different "flavor" of that sound.
The sound engine of these two modules is totally different, but patches from the card sound extremely similar. XV is more detailed high end, JV has darker tone with slightly more low end.
I remember my old mate at keyboards playing probably thru a JV or an XP using this espansion and Another one, with Farfisa and Hammond samples (I Don’t remember the exact name (maybe you can help me). Those sounds were huge and cutting through the mix in so rich and powerful way I’ve never listened again to sth similar.
The other card probably was "Keyboards of the 60s & 70s" (SR-JV80-08), a very good selection of organs and keyboards for live performance.
The samples of both Vintage (04) and Keyboards (08) cards were then re-issued in the newer expansion card SRX-07 Ultimate Keys. Although this card does not contain the original patches, if used in a Roland XV machine you can upload the old patches and make them use the new card (works flawlessly in my XV-5080) which effectively gives you both old cards as they were.
Hope that helps!
XP 80 has xlnt filters. Both freq and resonance are "kick ass".
880 has better bottom end and is overall warmer. Attacks seem slower.
Interesting! I recently bought both the JV-1080 and the JV-2080 with the SR-JV80-04 card, but haven't done a proper comparison between those two. I expect them to sound very similar anyway since they are in the middle of the 2 devices you compared.
Good catch! In case you ever do a comparison please let us know what you find out. I used to own a JV-3080 but did not have the 04 card back then.
Try the Cards in the JD-990 ;-)
If there was one available that does not cost an arm and a leg I definitely would!
There is a limitation with the 880: It cannot play sounds which use ring modulation properly, which are on some cards. It does not have these 'algorithms' that the D50 or the JV1080 have.
Strictly parallel dancing here.
I was not aware of that, thanks for the info!
Thanks fir this chance You gave us!👏👏 I am wondering if the XV5080 has already some cards of this series inside out from the box.
Happy to have been of help! No, unfortunately none of the cards are contained in the XV-5080. The only ones that contained some cards' data were the XP keyboards and the JV-1010.
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Thanks, so quick in answering!!👏
a lot of people make a big deal out of minor differences in EQ profile of these synths. people claim that older DA converters are superior because they're "warmer" but theyre actually inferior and rolling off higher frequencies. the relatively newer units like 5080 and Integra 7 are labelled as "sterile" but they're actually just clearer sounding.
none of those people making a big deal about these older DA converters have heard of an EQ. EQ is the most useful effect of them all.
Why EQ a synth to sound warmer... when you can just get a synth that sounds warm at the source.
Agreed. XV 5080 is very good sounding on it's own.
They sound the same for me! lol I would go for XV5080!
Yes, there are so many stupid freaks.
Integra is the best option.
Fantastic video!!! To me JV-880 is warm!! Note at test of 5:18. The low end of JV-880 is fantastic. I love this module!! What expansion do you think that is better for JV-880? Thank you for share!!!
Thanks for your reply! A tough question, there are many good SR-JV80 boards so it will depend on what you plan to use it for: Vintage (04) has a great selection of synth samples/patches. For retro-pop there is the Pop board (01) and the Super Sound Set (07). For New Age you can use the World Expansion Board (05). Or go for old-school Dance (06), Techno (11), or Hip-Hop (12). The Orchestral Expansion (02) is great, but nowadays maybe a bit dated. And finally, to update the JV-880 with a good selection of more contemporary samples get the Session expansion (09), although it would probably be cheaper to buy a JV-1010 with the 09 expansion built-in.
@@LeadingMotive , thank you for your rich reply! I´m using the Experience II and Experience III in this unit. You can not read the patches however these boards have a good set of waves and some of these waves comes from Vintage Synth board. I used the "POP" a lot but to create my own patches I think that Experience give a good set of oportunities.
In my JV-880 is not possible read patches from 200 when with "Session" board. In my JV-1080 works perfectly. Do you have this problem in your JV-880 with Session board?
One more question? With the Memory Card how many patches you can store at same time, 128 or 64?
@@lecleto According to the instruction leaflet, the Session board offers 200 patches for the JV-880 and 255 for JV-1080 etc. so this seems to be normal.
The memory card has room for 64 patches, so together with the JV-880's internal memory you can access 128 slots at the same time.
@@LeadingMotive one more time thank you! I thinked that my "Session" board had a problem! Good to know that is normal. Thank you for your information about memory card. I created a patch editor for Roland JV-880. It´s a JV PatchEd. At program I created a part that calls patches from card however, how I don´t have a memory card, I never really tested this. At program I created a 64 slots with C1 to C64. If you like to edit patches it´s a tool that will help you a lot. Here is the link:
ctrlr.org/jv-patched-roland-jv-880-patch-editor/
One more time thank you!
Best regards from Brazil!
@@lecleto Good to know, thanks - I'll have to try your program. Cheers from Finland!
I think that sometimes the XV-5080 presets are sunk deep into effects. Too much! It looses clarity and punch. I bet that if edited on effects the 5080 would sound even better.
Is XV 5080 playing the back from an SRX07 card or a SR JV csrd?
It's the SRX card (which allegedly has the same samples) with Roland's adaptation patches that were provided on CD-ROM back in the days.
@@LeadingMotive
Thanks for the reply. I can now say for me, if were on a desert island with an XV-5080 and the SRX 07 card I would be plenty happy. ha ha
Yes. If on a desert island with an XV-5080 and the SRX 07 card, you would be plenty happy. ha ha
I wonder how the JV880 would compare if you used the digital output that's on the XV-5080?
Good question, probably circumventing old DA-converters would sound more transparent, then again you probably lose some of the character. Such a comparison could be an idea for another video someday!
I usually prefer the analogue output of these old digital units. But maybe there are examples where digital sounds better. I guess there is something to those converters that make these units sound nicer for me.
yes. Be happy with jv 880 analog outs. The jv 880 DACs have the magical "aliasing" to add musical magic to the sound.
Hello 👋🏿 help🐲 help🌝 how do I find my sounds? I am afraid there is something wrong with my module xv5080. I installed srx and I luck plastics clips so it's not pushed down in anyway, although I can, then it will be mounted a little bit sideway.
Well, where do I click to find sounds? I can't click my exp bottom in any of modes? Does that mean something is not working right?
On the XV's main screen, press the SYSTEM button and then F6 ("Info"). This shows you the installed cards. If you cannot see any, they are probably not installed correctly. The plastic clips must be *turned* so that the cards' holes fit through them, then push the card down until the connector is in all the way (not sideways/tilted).
@@LeadingMotive thanks so much I am going to try this next time. I was just afraid to push so I just placed it kinda there. I don't have plastic turns, I only have plastic sticks hanging though
@@LeadingMotive and it work ) I just pushed it harder🧐🥸
Nice for the hobbyists who use old cards. For the smart people, buy an integra. Save a lot of money and you have super quality, more of this time. The charm of the lesser quality, is not worth it.
The Integra unfortunately does not contain these SR-JV patches of the "Vintage" card (only its samples plus newer SRX patches as part of one SRX expansion). And some SR-JV cards' samples are not contained in the Integra at all. I use the Integra myself, but have an XV-5080 with the missing cards.
I have an integra, a 1080 with Asia and orchestral 1 & 2 cards, and a 990 with the vintage synth card (the JD gets an extra set of patches that aren’t available in any other synth). I have no regrets.
As leading motive said, there are many presets missing from the SRX cards, which is why I kept my 1080 after getting the integra.
@@ptkelly80
jv 1080 with Asia card is really good sound. I have XP80 [same synth engine] and Asia card is a KEEPER.
I own both the old SR-JV 04 Vintage card (two of those actually) as well as an SRX 07 - The latter is supposed to contain all waveforms but I found a few of the original, ones I used - missing! Maybe it is on there but simply renamed?... Makes reassigning sounds to a newer synth a pain in the @ss.
I'll never let go of my old SR-JV boards though ;)
Thank you for the insight! Really? That's a bummer! I assumed the sample set was unchanged, as Roland claims, since the SR-JV patches all work with the SRX samples. Though it might be that some samples remained unused on the SR-JV and then got dropped by Roland when releasing the SRX board. Really odd.
Buy a integra and sold your jv cards.
I keep only the dance and country card in my XP50.
That is not on a integra or srx.
@@antoniocalimero1173 The integra sounds worse than the jv or xv synths. Believe it or not! :-)
@@abrokenframe82 Then you must be a bad musician :-)
@Xeraser If you can't make music and don't understand settings, it's better to keep working with your old equipment with poor quality outputs
Sorry I think you are confusing the JV-880 for the JD-800. The JD-800 and JD-990 have access to alot of more patches with the vintage card installed. JV-880 vs XV-5080 should be quite similar.
Not confused. Just happened to get hold of a JD-880 (edit: of course I meant JV-880) and was curious to see how it would compare to my XV-5080. I'm not comparing these to a JV-800 nor to a JV-990 here.
The XV-5080 and JV-880 were similar. I was surprised to not hear any MFX used on the XV-5080. The JD-800 predates the XP/JV series is not compatible with the SR-HV expansion boards at all. The JD-990 is a unique hybrid of the JD-800 and JV series with no keyboard equivalent.
JD 800 is a no-go compared to jd 990.
Is XV5080 editing deeper?
Yes, you do have more parameters to work with. The XV is two generations further than the early JVs (JV -> Super JV -> XV). The XV series also has true stereo samples and higher polyphony. But still the JV-880 is impressive and much more editable than its predecessor, the U-20/220 (which I also own).
@@LeadingMotive
thank You mate!👍
Not a dime worth of difference between the 2 units.
I mean the XV-5080 is the only one at 44.1KHz but otherwise yeah, shouldn't be any different it's all digital stuff. Got myself an XV-5080 last month and I'm loving the sounds. For me, not actually being alive for too long in the 90s, I don't think I'm so ruined by the sounds, I just have fond memories of the tail end of the JV-1080's use in slightly solder media I consumed. But I have to say, I was gonna get an XV-2020 which has a similar shape and size to the JV-1010, I think I'm mainly just happy that I have a big display for all of the complex menus.
@@baroque4days
Yes. xv 5080 is great. Also, stay with the JV-1080, as it has really good freq and resonance sound.
Just get a 1080 or 2080.
Absolutely! But if you're looking for the cheapest host for the Vintage card, it's either the JV-880 or the JV-1010 (which *is* basically a 2080 in a smaller box). Of course JV-1080/2080/XV-3080/5080 are better for front-panel editability. The JV/XV series also gives direct access to the card patches without the need to load them to memory.
I think that the JV-880 lacks low end.