Roland JV-880 vs JD-990
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Comparision of the two beast. IMO the JV-80/880 is the best of the JV series synthesizer soundwise. I just recorded the same Midi-Files with fist JV-880 and second JD-990. Sounds came from the Expansion Card JV-80 04 vintage keys, the first 28 patches.
Excellent video!!!! A small, but important side note: Vintage card has an extra set of 255 patches which were made exclusively for JD-990 and which utilise the full potential of that synth. While the JV-80 patches played on JD-990 are "a conversion" so to speak (JD-990 has the ability to convert and load JV-80 patches, however they will not sound 100% identical in many cases). So it's a tricky situation for a proper comparison.
Don Solaris thank you, Don! You are right, but really I am very much impressed of the JV-80/880. It seems that the filter sounds better. The JD seems to have a sort of aliasing. But the JD is much more versatile with more fx, Stereo panning, structures and some more extra features. Soundwise I would be interested in a comparison between JV 1080 and 880.
Actually JV-880 aliases a lot, but i find that a positive thing. It sort of gives a "fake" CD quality response, although the content above 16kHz is a mirror image. Later Roland implemented much stronger antialias filter in JV-1080 but that kinda dulled the sound. Yes, proper comparison will be JV-880 vs. JV-1080. And let me tell you, soundwise, JV-880 will wipe the floor with 1080. :) And this comes from a 1080 fan (check out my 1080 soundset on YT) who knows this machine inside out. Compared to 1080 880 has that extra lows (cinematic quality sound!) and extra highs due to weak antialias filter. All in all a total sleeper. Now let me grab one for peanuts before others find out. I already have a JV-80 but needs repairs.
Don Solaris you are really the Roland JV and JD professor. Nobody else has that deep knowledge. Thanks for your great inputs in the web
Don Solaris I also grabbed another JV80. And my friend, who knows all JV s is most exited about the 80
I am actually now looking for a mint JV-80 and will use existing one for parts. Let's keep it low key though. Before prices go up. LOL!!! 😄
JD-990 has a more clear, more crystalin, in face sound. The JV-880 is more rude, more organic and more vintage. For me JV-880. Thank´s for post!
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If you have a JV 880 w/ SR JV 04 vintage card then you have all the good sound you need. The JD 990 brings a better GUI, panning features, and more outputs, but the JV 880 sound holds up right there with the JD 990. And I hear envelopes in this demo that many times sound IMHO better on the JV 880. And the 990 is 24 voice vs the 28 voice 880. So, yes, I might just try to finance picking up a second JV 880 this week.
Just came through your video .. 990 has one channel out of phase .. thus cancelling a part of the sound - volume - strange stereo image etc . Both great synths anyway .. Owned both at the same time ... Totally agree 80/880 sounds like it's the best of the JV series . JD 990 is probably the best sounding module in Roland's history in terms of "in your face" quality ... It is just that you can not get it here due to technical issues .
mixalis papathanasiou thanks, I sold the JD-990 and kept the JV-880. Did you listen to my JV-880 Video? I still love it. I don’t have another digital Roland.
@@vintagesynths Unfortunately not yet ... but i'll do search and listen to your video . Glad you kept your 880 . No reason to sell it especially for the "low money" you can get . Really nice sounding synth !
Wow, coincedence! Noticed it too :)
PS I've got earplugs in just slightly; as some kind of HP filter, but to me it seems the JD-990 has way more reverb on the patches than the JV-880.
I've got the JV-90 and XV-3080 :)
Execution Squad the jv-90 is the same soundengine than Jv-80/880. I used to own JV-90 and JV-1000
As what I heard, your JD-990 sounds are out of phase. If you have correct signal cabling, your JD-990 need to be recapped, especially those output electrolytic capacitors across the output signal path.
Thats a pretty massive assumption to make
I'm hearing the phaseyness as well....wondering why though.
there's something wrong with the stereo out of the JD-990, possibly the gnd + active are swapped (making it sound much wider)... unfortunately due to this it's not possible to compare
The JV 880 will audibly rise up to the occasion. It has really good LP and HP filters, resonance [that won't clip like on the JD 990 ] really good FX, and each of the 4 voices within each patch can be panned. Plus it has 28 voice vs 24 in the JD 990. The 990 is more elegant overall but nobody need cry too much over not having one when they have a JV 880.
Yes, I kept the 880 and sold the 990 but recently I picked up a JD-800 for a very decent price. The 880 sounds more crisp I think
I was a bit bummed that I couldn't find a 990 but after hearing this I actually like the 880 more :D The 990 does has more sounds from the Vintage Synth module afaik but I guess I'll just have to live without those :P
Synthetic_Future but those extras are fantastic.
seems for some strange reasons the fx programming parameters from the vintage card are interpreted differently making both machines sound differently as Don pointed out.
To be honest, on most patches it just sounds like the JD-990 is not playing the sound with any digital delay and other effects such as chorus. So of course it is going to sound at little dry.
For those that need a real world example of the JD-990's use, I believe most of the Halo soundtrack was done on a 990.
Koele Kahuna hmm, I think much was done on the 1080. I’ve heard many default presets from the 1080 in the Halo OST (and Game SFX). Also heavily used were some sounds from the E-Mu Proteus 2000.
@@JurassicTrance It's a mix of a lot - this is what Marty himself said in an interview:
"My main tools are the Emu E4XT Ultra, and Proteus 2000, Roland JD-990, and XV-5080, and the Kurzweil K2500X."
Hi SynthLegends, thank you for this video. As Don states, this comparison, utilizing an expansion card for both machines although work, but they do not utilize the full extent of the JD-990. A better comparison possibly is to use the on-board sounds for each machine. Don also brings up yet another interesting fact, Roland marketing will have you believe you can get hundreds or thousands of Integra sounds into a seemingly a board that can read Integra / SuperNatural sounds. Yes those fies can, but you are not getting the full high depth sound of a board which has the Integra engine. The keyboard can read Integra/SuperNatural files, but the output quality is not there as it lacks the oscillators, DAC and filters, in other words, the Integra engine.
Bobcatt22 I used to have a Jupiter 80 and compared the basic pcm and filters to the JD-990 and JV-80. I sold it, because it sounds too clean in my ears. I much more prefer the raw sound of the early JVs, 80, 880, 90 or 1000. Also the JD-990 sounds much better in my ears compared to forthcoming Roland stuff.
Well the integra pcm filters are the same as the xv 3080/5080 which are not as good sounding as the jv880/jd990 ., but then again will not clip when overdriven ( jd990 does that easily )
BUt , the integra's supernatural synth filters sound excellent , but the editing is not as deep as the pcm engine .
How deep is the jv880 pcm engine , does it also have the strucutures (ring mod /boost ) , fxm ( which is basically a square wave modulator ) ?
Thanks for posting this . Ill drop some feedback once ive had a proper listen.
have ended up with two of both ....so think there all staying along with the rest of my roland stuff
The JD990 has a higher sampling rate, 44.1k uncompressed, vs the JV 30k compressed 8 bit samples. JV is much louder in demo, but less dynamic range than 990
Uhm.. sound comes from Vintage Expansion FYI
I think the JV-880's sample rate is 16 bit.
Die Unterschiede sind bekannt. liegt daran, dass man die Klangerzeugung leicht modifiziert hat nachdem der Jv80/880 auf den Markt kam. Doch es gibt eine sehr gute Lösung: Einer der original Sounddesigner von damals, Stephane Pigeon , hat auf seiner Website die Sounds für die 1080-Engines nochmal kreiert. Kann man einfach da runterladen stephanepigeon.com/1080.php. Das klingt dann schon ganz anders... Viele Grüße aus München
Both sound good, but it sounds like some patches on the JD990 have been recorded at a lower volume... More, dear friends, just think that some patches are probably edited in a different way, while keeping the same name.
990 way ahead in programmability. Jv sounds good.
Hmmm might be me but I think the JV880 has more low end. It sounds phatter somehow.
i like every first patch of this example. i don't like the stereo imaging that the 990 is doing on every patch...
What the hell is going on with the JD's right channel phase?
Yeah, one channel is inverted on JD,.duh... download and check for yourself. But theres always that- it´s youtube "comparison" video. So pinch of salt to be taken with it is mandatory.
Sounds like the JD-990 is a JV-880 with high pass filter shifted 50 Hz up und low pass filter shifted 4000 Hz up, just guessing :)
so whats the verdict...get a jv880 instead of the much more expesive jd990?
All day
Great comparison, in most cases I prefer the sound of the 880. Is there enough difference between the 880 and the 990 to justify owning both?
Where is the JV-80 ? :)
JV880 sounds a bit more organic/analog?
Coneman3 yes, I think so. JD more clear and HiFi, but sometime a bit aliasing
Absolutely analgog vibe!!
Just play Deep SeAmphony and tell me how thin and processed it sounds. You're also talking about the JD emulating sounds created for the JV. The architecture is slightly different.
Sweet!
I just now fired up an XV-5080 w Ultimate Keys SRX card [ has ALL Vintage samples ] and JV-880 w Vintage card. Layering both with JV-880 panned off center. Mixing patches is tons easy to get TOTALLY sounds that go from highly emotional to WAY dark and wonderful. Don Solaris info has JV-880 getting really good sound. And SRX Ultimate Keys card should have full 44.1k range on Vintage samples. XV-5080 is capable of 44.1 playback for Vintage samples? I think so. Don't have JD-990 to A/B compare, but with this setup I have now I won't be losing any sleep not having a 24 voice JD-990.
880 sounds better?
por favor que card o tarjetas de expansión me recomienda para el JV880 se lo agradezco de ante mano por la informacion
ORQUESTA - HERUS Y FRAGANCIA nonse nececita ninguns targeta para crear sonidos interesantes. Mire el video dear sonidos de don Solaris - nunguno de esos sonidos usa targetas.
I am not a fan of the 880/1080 as the UI's are just to small when it comes to sound design. I own 3 JD's and recently bought a JV2080. Almost identical UI's. Some (minor?) differences in sound that - in a final musical production - are negligible for me personally.
It sounds like the JD990 is sometimes played at a lower volume, and with some editing parameters upset!
littlebritain64 Volumen is possible, because they had for each sound different output. Also settings of FX different. I didn’t change anything
@@vintagesynths
Thanks, and now I noticed I already wrote the same things 9 months ago!!😄 Good test, anyway!👍
There are differences but I cant say who is really better 😂
I have the JD-800 and JV-880, and they both sound basically the same i.e. icy cold DAC's.
The JD-990 sounds out of phase!
definitivamente el JV880 tiene el sonido mas analogo
Polyphony differences: JV-880 = 28 voice / JD= 64 - is this correct?
JD990 have 24!
Thinking of purchasing a Fantom X8 and pass on the G8, primarily because the X8 seems to have better sounds utilizing the SRX cards. Perhaps it is the X8 engine(s). Does anyone share what I have discovered?
Re-visited: The Fantom X8 is on the list to sell. Got to get mobile. Had the JD-990 up for sale however I got scared (from seller's remorse) and removed it.
more efficiente sound bit punch for JD - 990!!!
Shame on you!!! You try to fool us or you are the one? Why you recorded JD 990 out of phase? For reason?
Everything recorded in stereo just
Plain
Chill dude, have a bit of respect
you're an idiot... fuck your video, it is misleading@@vintagesynths
A manipulated video made to lower the price of JD990.