7 Iconic Original Games That Were Nearly Boring Sequels
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
- Beautiful and unique ideas should be celebrated, but what you might not realise is that several beloved, original videogames only narrowly avoided being sequels to existing franchises. See for yourself with these seven iconic original games that were very nearly boring sequels, and subscribe for more videos like this from Outside Xbox!
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@@abydosianchulac2There'd be a dozen sequels. At least.
Let me know when they do the "7 Americans Who Believe They Would Blend Right in With the Team".
Me. I'm one of those 7. Who are the other 6?
This guy. Me. I'll gladly go on that list
Now do a list of “Original games that were turned into sequels.” Star Fox Adventures comes to mind.
Not sequel exactly, but Diddy Kong racing originally didn't feature Diddy
Star Fox Adventures was truly an underrated gem. Absolutely loved that game as a kid, would snap it up in a heartbeat if it showed up with a remaster on Switch
Castlevania Lord of Shadows
super mario 2 as well.
Quake II
Wolfenstein The New Order
Fallout! It was originally going to be Wasteland 2 but they couldn't get the license and instead created Fallout.
And that was supposed to use the GURPS license, but that fell through so they came up with SPECIAL.
And then when the creator couldn't get the license for Fallout back from Bethesda, he made Wasteland 2.
It came full circle.
@@Sabbalab92holy $#!+
Nice to see Sleeping Dogs get some love. One of my favorite games ever. Shame we'll never see a sequel
yeah, it was so good
Again, doesn't need one. It already ended well and conclusively, all things considered.
Great game and can be picked up really cheap in a sale regularly if people haven't played it.
Honestly, I was a big fan of the True Crime games back in the day. They were pretty awesome, and I'd have loved to have gotten a new installment.
@@kendoyle I jumped into Sleeping Dogs when it was a Games With Gold game. hands down THE best game I ever got for free, and one of the best full stop
Jane: "What do you call a Prince of Persia game without a prince that's not set in Persia?"
Ubisoft: "We call that Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown."
Them's Fighting Herds was originally going to be a My Little Pony fan game called Fighting is Magic. After it began to get some positive attention among the fighting game community, Hasbro issued a C&D against the development team. Undeterred, they rebranded the game and launched a crowdfunding campaign. They even got Lauren Faust, the creator of Friendship is Magic, to design the new characters and write the backstory for the game. Meanwhile, Lab Zero, developers of Skullgirls, offered use of their game engine to the team.
This and Bloodborne Kart should be featured in "7 Fan Games That Rebranded For Legal Reasons"
Lauren Faust didn't only design characters and backstory, but she also helped them make sure the game was sufficiently legally distinct that Hasbro couldn't harass them, on account of her characters being licenced for so many products she knew the legal issues inside and out.
The original Perfect Dark was such a creative game with a good story. Good to see it mentioned every so often, it deserves it.
Similar to the Doom and Donkey Kong examples, I've read, at least, that the Ace Attorney series was originally meant to be a video game adaptation of the adventures of the classic literature and TV defense attorney, Perry Mason, but they couldn't get the rights, so they decided to introduce some magic-related plot shenanigans into the mix and made an original IP instead. This is also why the court process in the game universe is called the "Initial Trial System" despite the trials being the final word, because most Perry Mason cases are not actual trials, but pretrial hearings.
They also kept the location ambiguous in the first game, in case they decided to localize it for Western audiences. When that didn't initially happen they added more Asian influence to subsequent games.
Darkstalkers was originally supposed to be a licensed fighting game featuring Universal Studios classic monsters like Count Dracula and Frankenstein's Creature, but licensing rights got in the way, so they made it a original game instead. The original idea's influences can still be felt as some of the game's roster are classic monsters like Dimitri the vampire, Jon Talbain the werewolf and Anakaris the mummy.
And thanks to Capcom not going the Universal monsters route we got Morrigan, Lilith and Felicia. And many a sweaty horny fans were thankful
@@sebastiancintron29 We also got that really catchy song "Trouble Man" which has become a kind of theme song for the series thanks to Capcom deciding not to use the universal monsters.
There really is something to be said for NOT being hemmed in by some exterior official canon, isn't there? Add in Q-Bee and my favorite BB Hood/Bulleta.
Why don't you have a pork bun in your hand?!
a man is never a whole man without a whole bun in his hand
IIRC Dragon Age was supposed to be Baulder's Gate 3.
And became the Baulder's Gate 3 we got's biggest inspiration. Genre defining games.
@Living_with_Narcissists dragon age devs: "nah baldurs gate 3 would suck, let's make Dragon Age"
Baldurs gate 3 devs: "yooo dude this shits fire, let's make baldurs gate 3 by using these same concepts and hopefully be almost as successful as them!"
Jane always forgets when she dies.
Sleeping Dogs was an incredible experience, I wish I could play it again for the first time...
Andy offhand compared the melee combat to the Arkham games and now I'm angry all over again at every single executive at the meeting that forced Rocksteady to make a paint-by-numbers live-service game instead of letting them make another great singleplayer experience.
Happy to see Perfect Dark get some love. One of my favorite games growing up. Couch Multiplayer and tons of different enemies, weapons, and game modes.
I believe Warcraft was originally going to be a Warhammer tie-in game, but Blizzard lost the license part way through development, so they had to make it an original (if derivative) IP.
_Starcraft_ doesn't hide its debt to _40k_ either, although I'm not aware of anything that direct.
WHAT! WE COULD HAVE HAD A WARHAMMER GAME INSTEAD OF WARCRAFT?
The Aliens Doom mod was amazing. It was fun learning how they hacked up enemies to make destructible terrain, the alien blood damage, etc. Good times 😊
This is the 3rd time I've seen Sleeping Dogs mentioned in the last 24 hours. I feel like the universe is calling for a replay. Great video as always 😊
There is not a single time that is not a good time to replay Sleeping Dogs...
Tbf Sleeping Dogs crossed my mind last week as a game I need to replay again
hey palpatin what do you think he should do?
palpatin:DO IT!!!
It's been in like 20 of these list videos at least
following on from the mario origins, one of the bosses in Splatoon 3’s story mode is a big reference to one of Mario Sunshine’s bosses! From the silhouette of a ray on the floor to the swirling ink colour, it’s quite the loving homage. The silhouette even splits like the original too. Now that I know about the discussions to make the original game a mario spin-off, it definitely makes more sense.
The story of that campaign also goes deeper into the whole “humans died over 10,000 years ago due to world wars, natural disasters, and rising sea levels, and tried multiple times to preserve their lives and avoid their ultimate fate” thing :)
True
Given that today is Leap Day I would have expected a List Feature on '7 Great Video Game Jumps'...
Oh well, the next Leap Day Thursday is in 2052. I'm counting on all of us being around then!
Pour one out for me when that video drops. I'll be with y'all in spirit. Because the chances of me living to 74 are about the same chances as someone convincing me that Chloe was worth saving in Life is Strange.
It's a leap year the there's one every four years, or am I tripping and you mean something different
Leap Thursdays are rarer.
In terms of great jumps,
Mario
Sonic
Ryu's Dragon Punch
That bit in BotW when you get the ability to jump really high
That RPG where you get the scroll of jumping
Saints Row 4 when you get super jump powers
The bit in portal 2 when you press space to speak.
Do they only make these 7 things videos on Thursdays? I hadn’t noticed
I heard StarCraft was going to be a Warhammer 40k game until it wasn’t and that’s why the factions are just legally distinct Space Marines, Eldar and Tyranids
*Le Gasp*! MICHAEL Knight, the operator in a shadowy world where he does not exist and here we have MICHAEL Channel, the resident car expert?! How did we not see this before?!
I'm expecting Mike to have a leather jacket and a bouffant hairdo next week...Don't let us down! XD
It also helps settle the question of Jane's moral alignment. As "Futurama" taught us, KITT's windshield wipers, at least, were evil.
Pretty sure that Sleeping Dogs would still be awesome even if it came out as True Crime Hong Kong as it was originally intended to be.
With Activision? Doubt it. Probably the reason they rejected it, it had too many new ideas for their taste. "Trying to bring novelty and push the genre forward?! Not on my watch, GET OUT OF HERE!!" :D
I can’t think of an activion game I’ve liked… but there probably is a few. Sleeping Dogs just rolls off the tongue… and if Xbox 360 didn’t give it away in their games for gold, I probably wouldnt had ever played it.
Simple plan greatest hits
i enjoyed true crime and sleeping dogs, would be nice for a new one since gta 5 went online and 7 is still a ways off
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you mean gigglier right ?
You saw the Spiderman vs Ant Man video... right?
Wasn't bioshock supposed to be a system shock sequel but they changed their minds?
As far as I know it was always just meant to be a spiritual successor.
From what I remember, Resident Evil was originally going to be a remake of a 1989 game titled "Sweet Home"
5:06 the way I thought of this wasn't that he forgot, but as he's speaking farah interrupts him and he's like "no... I didn't die"
3:05 I hereby request a mod where every melee attack is met with the Taco Bell sound effect
That's another coin in the Colonial Marines jar from Mike...
And for mentioning cars 😅
Wow, that's a deep cut. Wonder if they even know where they keep that jar.
I say we dust off and nuke the jar from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
And it's back! Audio now fine.
The Splatoon games have so much style and soul to them, I'm really really glad the didn't end up on the route of being yet another Mario etc game. Granted, I have only played Splatoon 3, but I challenge anyone to find another multiplayer "shooter" with as high a skill ceiling, as much strategic depth, and as fluid movement and mobility as it has, not to mention all be set to some incredibly slapping music.
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Given how much of a cultural phenomenon Splatoon has become in Japan as well has having a decent fan / player base all over the world, Nintendo definitely made the right choice.
I agree although Mario version would have still been pretty fun
Oh, my God. I've never played any Perfect Dark, but I've obviously heard a lot about them, but it just now hit me that the name Joanna Dark is very clearly a spin on Jeanne d'Ark, similar to the protagonist of Doom: Annihilation, whose name is Joan Dark. I guess that's a second name to my favorite character names list.
SLEEPING DOGS WAS AN AMAZING GAME! The gameplay, the story, the music... Everything about it is *chef's kiss*
The street vendors that would call out "you look like you need a pork bun"!
Apart from DMC, Resident Evil 4's production led to the making of Hunting Grounds, with the concept of a young woman and a dog companion facing horrific adversities. The dog even got a cameo when finally Resident Evil 4 came out as a Resident Evil game and not some other IP.
Love the video, keep up the great work yall!
I don't think Donkey Kong really fits the theme here... it was originally going to be a different game... but.. not exactly a sequel to anything. Also Mario wasn't Mario yet, he was Jumpman in that game.
Do you know the game Battalion Wars? Well it started out as sequel to the popular (and very enjoyable) Advance Wars but instead of a tactical fire-emblem like game, it was a unit managing, third person shooter. They showed off the trailer for this Advance Wars 3 but public outcry stated that if they were going to get an Advance Wars, then it should be like the other two. Instead of just scrapping the whole project, Advance Wars 3 was repurposed into Battalion Wars. A great and very underrated series.
@3:00 I just know my stuff, paying attention is hard. Great and now my inner monologue sounds like Jane.
Idea for a video: “Games that seemed way harder on our first playthrough” Honorable mentions to the original Sly Cooper who also has the title of “First games in the series that greatly differ the rest”
Anyone else nearly forget the existence of the dmc reboot? Cause when Andy said six games I had to really try to remember it was a thing.
Nope, I remember it
@@lycanthrochick makes one of us, it was for like half a minute, but for getting the reboot was kinda nice.
OMG. I read your comment and I was like 'oh yeah.' I was legit so confused when he said 6 games 😂
And here I was expecting _DMC2_ to be the disowned member of the franchise.
@@boobah5643 DMC 5 pretty much takes two in stride considering Dante's gauntlets so kinda tough to disown it, even if it also uses some of Rebooted DMC.
When I saw this, I was gunna rage if Perfect Dark wasn't listed. It's a massive improvement of GoldenEye in every way. Multiplayer bots, alt modes on weapons, dual wielding long before Halo, conversions of some of the best 007 maps, multiplayer stat tracking, player customization. A ton of stuff.
I liked goldeneye a lot more, personally. The controls seemed better, it had more unique feeling guns, and it had a sense of humor you don't often see in games anymore. That's not to say you're wrong, though. The maps, weapons, bots, and etc are all improved in perfect dark, and it seems really fun as well. It even has a lot of the goldeneye humor. I just like goldeneye so much because of nostalgia probably.
The Sci Fi stuff is the worst part of Assassin's Creed.
"Hey! I see you're having fun exploring a world and interacting with it's inhabitants. That's great! Let's just have you stop that for a bit, and have you run around so you can read logs and listen to exposition about stuff that ruins any historical verisimilitude we might have created."
I actually really enjoyed the scifi framing/lore and going to the "real world" to learn more (even moreso after the bleeding effect starting letting desmond parkour), but i also recognize that I'm in the minority on that opinion.
February 29th was going to be a sequel to February 28th and come around every year, but instead, developers decided to have it only come around a quarter as often and branded it "Leap Day"
It's a bit sad that none of these original games came out this or last generation except Splatoon. And thats ones already had three games. Makes you wonder how many orginal ideas there could have been but were either put in established series or thrown out in favor of something safe or another redo.
sleeping dogs needs a sequel. I've played it like 10 times
Jesus, that Splatoon backstory about global flooding killing all humans. I never knew that dark skeleton was in the closet when I bought the game for my nephew :o
It only really matters if you bother playing the single player mode and collect the sunken sea scrolls. The multiplayer doesn't really mention it at all.
well, octopi don't care about skeletons... since they don't leave one
14:55 I seriously picked the weirdest moment to switch to another window. Splattoon as audio only sounds… suspect. 😂
Hey, "Bang Average Dark" is certainly better than "Your Agent License Has Been Reokved Dark". Its not my fault that guy was just standing there outside the firing range and makes a great combat knife pincushion.
is the audio messed up for anyone else on this
you'd think they'd have these things worked out, considering how long they've been making these
Nope.
@@Riftweaver1981brother the audio is fine for me
I'm in awe that no one in the comments seems salty about Andy calling the inklings "octopus kids".
Haunting Ground is less iconic, BUT it actually counts for this on potentially two fronts. Its basic plot comes from an early idea from the "Castle" version of RE4 (a side plot with a girl and a B.O.W. dog) and there's a not insubstantial rumour that it was originally meant to be a Clock Tower sequel. It's more of a cult classic than an icon but still impressive.
So I don't know about the 'iconic' status of the original game, but I know that The Talos Principle started off as Croteam testing new mechanics and systems for Serious Sam 4, but as development progressed, they realized that it wasn't really keeping in the feel of the Serious Sam title and ended up setting SS4 aside to work on a more cerebral puzzler that's now spawned a sequel with a really engaging storyline. Even if The Talos Principle and The Talos Principle 2 (and technically, the teaser Sigil of Elohim) aren't in line with this video's theme, it's definitely worth a look and a note in my book.
I might be wrong but I believe Croc was an Unofficial Yoshi game? One which hasn’t seen the light of day for some time which I think is a real shame
10:39 the true crime here was that Sleeping Dogs never got a sequel. the game was amazing...
The Sleeping Dogs live action trailer is still one of my all-time favorites!
So 2 of my favorite games started out as Alien franchise tie ins? The Attack for the TI 99/4A started out as an Alien game for the Microvision.
is the audio on leap day while the video isn't?
The audio is working good for me, idk what's up for you
In splatoon, the inklings are squid kids, octolings, or octopus kids, weren't introduced as playable characters till splatoon 2
You either die as Wei Shen, or live long enough to see yourself become Ryo Aoki.
Why Ryo?
I'm shocked that Andy was able to keep a cool head while talking about Mario Sunshine. Lol. Luke must be wearing him down. 😂
Was waiting for a Dead Rising mention. Instead now I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep on my _huge pillow!_
(I have NO IDEA why I felt the need to make that reference...)
Pete! Pants! Now!
Anyone else getting audio sync issues?
Starcraft was originally meant to be a game set in the warhammer 40k universe. Once Gameswork shop didn't want to play ball they turned it into their own IP.
I never played Splatoon, but I really love the way the characters look and sound when speaking.
Well then what are you waiting for
Go play it lol
@@madnessarcade7447I don't own any nintendo console. The last and only nintendo console I've had was a SNes during the 90ies.
That's another pound for the Colonial Marines jar.
Xenogears' first draft was originally supposed to be Final Fantasy VII, but they rejected it due to all of the "controversial" religious themes. However, it was given a greenlight as its own game, and became one of the most beloved cult classic RPGs ever.
So basically the world of Splatoon is Waterworld.
Hey guys what about this as a suggestion "the 7 times cutscenes saved our conscience because we weren't in control" obviously a working title but I hope it makes sense
Funnily enough, one of the great WADs for Doom was a very cool remake of the Aliens movie. Ah, you mentioned it, cool. Sad about the mod being removed though, I quite enjoyed it.
my first though was devil may cry and then it came in at entry one lol
🤥
The True Crime games had some mad stuff in them. Streets of LA had zombies and a dragon underneath a Chinese restaurant
IIRC Bravely Default was originally a sequel to Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light.
Ill come back for the re-upload
I had always thought the plasma rifle looked like the pulse rifle.
More love for Sleeping Dogs! one of my favourite games ever ❤❤
Since you included Doom starting off as an Aliens game I have to mention how StarCraft was originally going to be a Warhammer 40k game and of course ended up being better than most 40k games today.
Audio and video sync falls off during the cold open. Damn it, Mike!
"Joanna play a game" is peak Mike
The Last of Us started as a Jak and Daxter sequel, and Cathrine started as Persona 5.
Sleeping Dogs is sooo good! And actually 4 GTA games in plain view from where I'm sitting currently. GTA IV, GTA Episodes from Liberty City (GTA IV dlc really, but different case and disc so... counts), and GTA Vice City Stories and Liberty City Stories on PSP. The others are hidden behind other stacks of games or in a different room.
Did someone at OxBox get stung by the Godus early access? Because I did so I verrrry much appreciated the use of the XBLA version of Perfect Dark where its Peter Molyneux getting slapped around the chops with a Falcon 2.
There’s no way that if Jane was a car she would be Kit. Way more Christine vibes than Kit!
I mean Skylanders was somewhere in between 'was going to be a sequel but didn't' and 'wasn't going to be a sequel but did' with them shoehorning in Spyro into the title of the first game
That's not true. They used spyro for the name and character but had no real intentions in a sequel. Skylanders is entirely separate from the spyro games
Completely off topic but I love Jane's top.
I love Jane's sweater/jumper
I would like to point out the INDESCRIBABLE TRAVESTY which has Andy the scrooge doing an item which incorporated Super Mario Sunshine!😊
Saint's Row is so good because it takes the main appeal of Grand Theft Auto, being the ability to walk around freely and kill, hurt, and steal from anybody you want, and bumped it up to the next logical step.
Like, what is the one thing that can make killing, hurting, and stealing from anybody you want more fun?
How about the ability to kill, hurt, and steal from anybody you want with a gun that shoots.......... dubstep?
Basically, they took a silly concept and took it to the silliest extreme.
The series started out earnestly enough, but by the third Saints Row, it's almost like the series became a parody of Grand Theft Auto and it's gameplay style, it ended up being a great example of a non GTA game with that formula.
Kind of like how "Song 2" by Blur was written specifically to mock grunge and it's scene, but in the end, the song ironically became one of the greatest grunge songs ever recorded.
There was also a Perfect Dark Gameboy Colour Game as well
As someone who did not enjoy the Prince of Persia reboot on PS3, the assassin version sounds like it might have been fun.
Would have been extra funny if this video about almost-a-sequels had been on OutsideXtra, the almost-a-sequel to OutsideXbox.
I wonder what this video's sequel will transform into
Weird to think that in the multiverse next door a massive Popeye theme park has just opened outside Tokyo.
It a tragedy that we never got and never will get a sequel for Sleeping Dogs. Phenomenal game.
"Super Popeye Kart"
..."Thimble Trackway"?
"Thank You Popeye, but our Olive Oyl is in another prohibition-era speakeasy."
there was a fps alien game years ago.. was it on the original x box or dreamcast i cant remember now, remember playing it at a mates house in the 90's
There was Aliens Trilogy for PS1 that came out in 96.
@@TommyWuh ah, perhaps that was it?? Can't remember now, so long ago.. thanks..
Sleeping Dogs is the best Gta copy but had it's own melee focused gameplay. Point is, it needs a sequel Stat! I've beaten that game twice from start to finish and I still love the story and game as a whole! 😊
"James is the car" 🤣
I heard "Jane's the car"
What's this, Adolescence of Utena?
The sounds are out of sync.
2:33 Those franchises being DMC and Monster Hunter.
I really liked the True Crime games, so I was very excited for the sequel. Bought it after it became Sleeping Dogs and enjoyed the hell out of it. Such a fun game.
I woulda swore Mike would’ve been the car!