Does Titanic Deserve To Be So Famous?

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    Update Thank you to everyone who has provided constructive criticism on this video. Some facts and statements are not correct. For instance: In the 1997 movie, the quartermaster does in fact turn the helm the correct way, as I've now learnt that the helm turns in opposition to the tiller, but not the rudder. The most lives lost at sea is also Wilhelm Gustloff. Apologies for these mistakes.
    We all know of the infamous RMS Titanic and the disaster to its name, but is there a reason this sinking is remembered over other maritime disasters? Enjoy this rambly video discussing all things Titanic from launch, to sinking, to media portrayal, to wreck, to today.
    I've wanted to cover Titanic on the channel for years as it's one of my longest passions (269 metres for your information). Admittedly, this video is very rushed and could have done with some revisions, but this was completed on the side whilst focusing on some bigger projects, and felt most appropriate to be released on the 109th anniversary of the sinking. If you did or did not enjoy it, let me know why and I'll consider doing more like this.
    Update If you're looking for the link to the movie without Jack and Rose that I mentioned at the end, it seems the entire project has been removed! If anyone can find it anywhere, do let me know. It had a trailer, a dedicated website to download in different qualities and everything!
    #Titanic
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  • @Robabin
    @Robabin Před 3 lety +167

    If anything she was over shadowed by Olympic then Olympic was over shadowed by Titanic while Britannic is just left sitting in he corner

    • @nigtcreature1837
      @nigtcreature1837 Před 3 lety +21

      That's why Britannic is referred to as the "Forgotten Sister".

    • @AbeTheBabe6233
      @AbeTheBabe6233 Před 3 lety +5

      @@nigtcreature1837 good boi

    • @celebrityxcruises8087
      @celebrityxcruises8087 Před 3 lety +6

      Forgotten by many
      But she is always in my heart

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca Před 3 lety +2

      How was the Titanic overshadowed by the Olympic? ;)

    • @Robabin
      @Robabin Před 3 lety +13

      @@WhatALoadOfTosca Because Olympic was the first launched, in the public's eyes Titanic was just another Olympic.

  • @OneTaker
    @OneTaker Před 3 lety +82

    This is why middle siblings have a hard time been noticed. Even when they are noticed more than their older and/or younger siblings, people question "why?"

  • @davinp
    @davinp Před 3 lety +28

    After the Titanic sank, 3 safety laws were passed: 1) Enough lifeboats for all; 2) Wireless must stay on 24 hours and 3) Lifeboat drills required

  • @Amazingyon1
    @Amazingyon1 Před 3 lety +53

    Most people: My favorite ship is Titanic, whats yours??
    Me: O L Y M P I C.

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 Před 3 lety +8

      Titanic hit an iceberg, ripped open a third of the ship, and took two hours to sink. Britannic hit a mine and sank in 55 minutes. Olympic was torpedoed and nobody noticed until after the war when the ship was in dry dock. Costa Concordia hit a rock and sank in 15 minutes.
      Given a choice, I would rather ride on an Olympic class ship.

    • @MrDrenup
      @MrDrenup Před 3 lety +6

      Me: *B* *R* *I* *T* *A* *N* *N* *I* *C*

    • @Lgs260495
      @Lgs260495 Před 3 lety +2

      If we're talking passenger ships: Olympic and Aquitania
      If we're talking warships: HMS Warspite (Queen Elizabeth class), USS Johnston (Fletcher class) and Enterprise (CV-11)

    • @seardadsdasd
      @seardadsdasd Před 3 lety +3

      @@michaelbujaki2462 Dona paz and MT vector : Both hit eachother and Both sank in 2 hours respectively

    • @seardadsdasd
      @seardadsdasd Před 3 lety +2

      And blew up**

  • @PepsiAddict18
    @PepsiAddict18 Před 3 lety +38

    1:53 It's recently been revealed that the 'burn area' was in actuality a reflection of the Titanic's hull's shining coat of paint.

    • @zyancuerdo7392
      @zyancuerdo7392 Před 3 lety +1

      Really?? Where you got that news from??

    • @PepsiAddict18
      @PepsiAddict18 Před 3 lety +10

      @@zyancuerdo7392 The Titanic: Honor and Glory CZcams channel.

    • @zyancuerdo7392
      @zyancuerdo7392 Před 3 lety +1

      @@PepsiAddict18 I see

    • @runawaysmudger7181
      @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +5

      That "burn mark" was above the waterline on F deck around the pool and squash court. No where near the boilers or the coal bunkers. If anything that'd just be a shaft for an ash ejector

    • @nightcrawler5409
      @nightcrawler5409 Před 2 lety

      I heard it was the pool room...

  • @awesoomej1181
    @awesoomej1181 Před 3 lety +24

    "Closest we'll get to a recreation of the sinking"
    *Sad Titanic: Honor and Glory Noises*

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +7

      I more specifically meant a real life recreation, with real people and sets etc. I admire THG's work but it will only ever be virtual. Both are great.

    • @awesoomej1181
      @awesoomej1181 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Terrier55Stepney I see, yeah, I guess that's fair.

    • @wilmarallensilva6746
      @wilmarallensilva6746 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Terrier55Stepney but the THG is much accurate

    • @Wolfric_Rogers
      @Wolfric_Rogers Před 3 lety +1

      And the Mengot theory is even more accurate than THG.

    • @runawaysmudger7181
      @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +3

      @@wilmarallensilva6746 still up for debate actually

  • @StationGuyGabe9821
    @StationGuyGabe9821 Před 3 lety +37

    This was a great video, but if I may correct a fact that you got wrong in the begging, the fourth funnel of the Olympic class did in fact operate, however rather than venting smoke from the boiler rooms, it vented foul air from the hospital, kitchens, and smoking rooms from the ship. This is why when you look at films of Olympic, you can still see smoke venting from it, just not as much as three forward funnels. Also, as for the QM turning the wheel the wrong way, back in those days ships used tiller commands, which basically meant to turn the opposite way that you were ordered. They used these commands because of the old tiller ships which required you to turn the tiller left in order to turn right.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +7

      I knew of the functions of the fourth funnel, though it's purpose could have been undertaken through typical vents and exhausts. Naturally having a funnel instead looks better. Thank you for explaining the tiller commands. I was under the assumption that it was the wheel that would have to be turned in opposition to the order, not the tiller mechanism itself.

    • @StationGuyGabe9821
      @StationGuyGabe9821 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Terrier55Stepney no problem! And I agree with you on the vents thing. It’s better to have it all go through one funnel rather than millions of tiny ones.

    • @SodorTrain1225
      @SodorTrain1225 Před 3 lety +3

      @@StationGuyGabe9821 A massive stack as kitchen ventilation. Seems strange, until you remember when Olympic must've had a large kitchen. How else would her fine meals in the dining halls be prepared?

    • @runawaysmudger7181
      @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SodorTrain1225 It was planned to vent exhausted air from other areas of the ship so that the ship wouldn't need huge tuba like cowl vents to draft in fresh air tho WSL had a hard time getting it to work on the Olympic at first

  • @ukaszwalczak1154
    @ukaszwalczak1154 Před 3 lety +34

    "Thankfully, i've never come across anyone who's asked: 'wait, the film is based on a real boat?' " Me: *remembering that facebook post about a random guy who says that Canadians are stupid for believing the Titanic was real* thankfully..

    • @ivangenov6782
      @ivangenov6782 Před 3 lety +1

      I AM INTO SHIPS AND PLANES AND SEEING THAT MAKES ME GO AMERICAN AND WANT TO AMERICANIZE HIM (using suns of course)

    • @ukaszwalczak1154
      @ukaszwalczak1154 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ivangenov6782 Wat m8???

    • @ivangenov6782
      @ivangenov6782 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ukaszwalczak1154 sorry, i just like ships and planes

    • @ukaszwalczak1154
      @ukaszwalczak1154 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ivangenov6782 Uhh, i wanted to know what you just said. Cuz i understood nothing you said.

    • @ivangenov6782
      @ivangenov6782 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ukaszwalczak1154 Basically i said i was angry that people actually think something like RMS Titanic isn't real and how much i wanted to nuke them, that was just my reaction, sorry.

  • @brandonstevens5628
    @brandonstevens5628 Před 3 lety +18

    In the movie when Murdoch says hard to starboard he was using a tiller command, which is basically left is right right is left. It refers to which direction the rudder turns not the wheel.

    • @susannefinch5211
      @susannefinch5211 Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for specifying that.
      I already knew that and was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else had.

  • @Steamenginesunited3456
    @Steamenginesunited3456 Před 3 lety +29

    This was a rare instance where I've missed a premiere.

  • @fletchertriclawgaming1486
    @fletchertriclawgaming1486 Před 3 lety +21

    Teacher here - One of my students literally said in a lesson 'wait the film is based on a real ship?' ...i literally face palmed

    • @Oddity2994
      @Oddity2994 Před 3 lety +1

      What grade

    • @fletchertriclawgaming1486
      @fletchertriclawgaming1486 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Oddity2994 Year 11s so thats 16 yr olds

    • @andrewchung2940
      @andrewchung2940 Před 3 lety +3

      Pfffttt!! That's nothing. I remember as a high school student when I was geeking about the Titanic in front of university students. One of them pretty much said the same thing!

    • @CrankyBeach
      @CrankyBeach Před 3 lety +2

      Somewhat equivalent to the story about someone who never knew Paul McCartney had played in another band before Wings....

    • @thesamuraihobbit
      @thesamuraihobbit Před 3 lety +2

      Could be worse. When my youngest brother was a freshman in high school, somebody in his history class thought China was a US state.

  • @lucaspIs
    @lucaspIs Před 3 lety +32

    Oooh, didnt know you also had a passion for this fine ship, good taste i see

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca Před 3 lety

      Just because someone has an interest doesn't mean they have a "passion" for it. Sadly nowadays if you have a passing interest in Titanic it is assumed you have a passion ;)

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +3

      @@WhatALoadOfTosca On this instance though, I do indeed have a self-proclaimed passion for Titanic. ;)

  • @h.m.tolympic4669
    @h.m.tolympic4669 Před 3 lety +9

    This guy: The Dona Paz was the worst maritime disaster
    Russia: Laughs in Wilhelm Gustloff

    • @zhackiethedog
      @zhackiethedog Před 3 lety

      I think dona paz is the filipino version of Titanic

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii Před 3 lety

      He's talking worst in peacetime. Overall, then yes, the Gustloff takes the cake (or the skull, or the top spot; whatever is better to say in this situation :P).

    • @LancerIHR
      @LancerIHR Před 3 lety

      Bruh, he said in peace time

    • @LancerIHR
      @LancerIHR Před 3 lety

      Also, Germany owned Gustloff

    • @h.m.tolympic4669
      @h.m.tolympic4669 Před 3 lety

      @@LancerIHR Russians caused it.

  • @NorthWestern1919
    @NorthWestern1919 Před 3 lety +33

    I must say, I love the thumbnail with those buff funnels topped off with top hats. Top Hat certainly can't compete with that.

    • @SodorTrain1225
      @SodorTrain1225 Před 3 lety +2

      Top Hat: I want more capitalist accessories to compete with Titanic.
      Titanic: Shut up.

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 Před 3 lety +2

      @@SodorTrain1225 Of course, Top Hat will never be a liner. He's not big enough.

    • @SodorTrain1225
      @SodorTrain1225 Před 3 lety +2

      @@NorthWestern1919
      Warrior: I thought so.
      Top Hat: (mutters) Give me strength......

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SodorTrain1225 Technically, Warrior does have a point. Out of the entire Star Fleet, only Hercules, the ocean tug, is built to handle the open ocean.

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii Před 3 lety

      Yeah: can't believe it took me so long to notice at first. Loved it. :)

  • @Johnathan04
    @Johnathan04 Před 3 lety +13

    1:32
    Actually the Doña Paz only has the highest death toll from a ship sinking during PEACE time
    Meanwhile the sinking of the MV Whilhelm Gustloff costed the lives of around 9,000 people.

    • @Johnathan04
      @Johnathan04 Před 3 lety +1

      @Kenn Honson X i think he just edit that in or something bc that was not there when I commented-

  • @hugothomas1199
    @hugothomas1199 Před 3 lety +29

    Titanic: is great
    Britannic: comeing out of a corner
    Olympic: still in the corner
    RIP everyone on the Titanic

    • @seardadsdasd
      @seardadsdasd Před 3 lety +4

      And to all the sailors that were lost on Dona Paz Willhem Gustloff Halifax explosion lusitania , and others

    • @runawaysmudger7181
      @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +1

      Arguably the Olympic had already shone for the 24 years in her service life as a wartime heroine and an ocean liner

    • @hugothomas1199
      @hugothomas1199 Před 3 lety +2

      @@runawaysmudger7181 I know

    • @mikbyr
      @mikbyr Před 3 lety

      Lusitania: D E D

  • @moonwalker091000
    @moonwalker091000 Před 3 lety +6

    In my opinion, there is no disrespect in salvaging items from the Titanic. This is the way we will always be connected to this beautiful ship and the lives that were lost. We can always remember her in her glory when we see these artifacts on display. She

    • @ivangenov6782
      @ivangenov6782 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes but would you dig up a grave and take said person's grave belongings to "always be connected with the person" no, in this case it's the same, the RMS Titanic sank woth those items and the dead people died with them, it is a literal grave and should be respected as such, the items they may have taken could be belongings to people some maybe meaning something very important to those people and should be left untouched and undisturbed.

  • @LancerIHR
    @LancerIHR Před 3 lety +9

    This video was one of the best videos on your channel, maybe one of the best ship or Titanic vids ever! Please do more.

  • @sudrianrailwaystudios676
    @sudrianrailwaystudios676 Před 3 lety +1

    Outstanding as always! I for one remember watching the Titanic 1912 Crash a number of times...

  • @IseeyouPenguin4
    @IseeyouPenguin4 Před 3 lety +6

    Lovely video! I also recently had thought about why Titanic was much more famous or had more of a legacy then her sister did, and you gave a really great answer!! Nice work on this!

  • @MastermemesXD
    @MastermemesXD Před 3 lety +2

    Holy cow I didn't realize this is from terrierstepney until the end of the video. I thought someone else made it. Good job!

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      It's got my posh, high-pitched narration all over it! Thanks.

  • @trainknut
    @trainknut Před 3 lety +7

    "Some of which didn't even sink"
    Aquitania: (in the back) _say it again_

  • @AlextheHistorian
    @AlextheHistorian Před 3 lety +15

    I'm actually really happy to see this video. Like most everyone, I started out a fan of Titanic, but if you take away the tragic disaster, the ship itself was relatively unremarkable. I hear all too often that Titanic is or was "the best" but there are other ships out there worth learning about. I myself would say RMS Queen Mary is my favorite.

  • @snapagog1
    @snapagog1 Před 3 lety +6

    For anyone interested, Titanic used the customary ‘Tiller Commands’ for directions. Before wheels, they used tillers to control the rudder (like a leaver directly connected to the rudder - still used on rowing boats etc). The short of it being you move the tiller in the opposite direction that you want the bow to turn. The direction ‘hard to starboard’ meant turn the bow hard to port - directing the helmsman to turn the wheel fully to port. The film is correct. Hope that makes sense. :)

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for clearing that up, though I'm still confused... Surely "hard to starboard" would mean to turn the wheel to the starboard, in effect turning the bow to the port? Somehow it's easier to understand when in a row boat. xD

    • @SodorTrain1225
      @SodorTrain1225 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Terrier55Stepney This is more confusing than the tea party in "Alice In Wonderland".
      Mad Hatter: Waiter! There's a hare in my soup! 😄

    • @snapagog1
      @snapagog1 Před 3 lety

      @@Terrier55Stepney I didn’t explain it clearly. The wheel turn is true to the direction of the bow (like a car), a tiller ‘turn’ is opposite. So tiller commands were in many ways archaic but I guess it’s a matter of having an industry standard. I’m sure it’s been changed now. I’ll see if I can find a video to explain it better than me!

    • @snapagog1
      @snapagog1 Před 3 lety

      @@Terrier55Stepney the Royal Navy switched over to ‘rudder commands’ in 1934, so let’s say somewhere in 1930s it became standard. Needless to say, they recognised the confusion too.

  • @zarzuelamop4880
    @zarzuelamop4880 Před 3 lety +5

    16:24 the order for “hard a starboard” actually meant turn left, “hard a port” meant turn right, this is because of the tiller commands since ships still used them at the time so they they didn’t actually make a mistake to turn away from the iceberg

    • @Gnashes
      @Gnashes Před 3 lety

      Yep! This was changed sometime between the sinking and WWII if I remember correctly.

    • @Milos15GameplaysYT
      @Milos15GameplaysYT Před 2 lety

      I remember that Tom Lynskey, the former producer of Titanic: Honor and Glory did a video on the tiller commands in depth. It's definitely worth to watch: czcams.com/video/ndse8-FekEE/video.html

  • @22Tesla
    @22Tesla Před 3 lety +7

    I find her story and the fate of her sisters is what makes her so famous. I actually got interested in the Titanic when I watched a NOVA episode talking about Britannic, and Ballard trying to find evidence for what sank her over and over again. While Titanic was just a foot note in that episode, the musical score, the narrator's tone, it just intrigued me with how sad and disastrous her sinking was with such a large loss of life for her time. She's a beautiful ship, the hubris surrounding her building, and how she was, I suppose, the first story if a disaster unfolding in realtime that wasn't on some country. Kinda like hearing Apollo 13's issues and knowing that safety is so far away, hearing this disaster unfolding and being unable to do anything to help. The story of the ship who saved her is also kinda interesting. The Carpathia almost broke her engines trying to race to Titanic. Allegedly she wasn't able to go near her top speed after that night.
    Cunard ships are pretty nice even if they are not as grand as the White Star.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts. That's a good comparison to Apollo 13. Carpathia and her crew deserve high respect indeed.

  • @Matthew-oi6kz
    @Matthew-oi6kz Před 3 lety

    Amazing video as usual, and very informative. I also LOVE the TATMR jab, HILARIOUS!

  • @rjsouthworth5246
    @rjsouthworth5246 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video. I liked the museum footage: I’ve been to Belfast and Southampton but not Cobh, so I’ve added it to my destination list.

  • @tomslegotrains7285
    @tomslegotrains7285 Před 3 lety +5

    A Moment of silence for Top Hat that can't be an ocean liner.
    But anyway, great video max, I really loved it :)

  • @Curlicuecurli
    @Curlicuecurli Před 3 lety +5

    Olympic deserves a lot more recognition

    • @yosef.d1
      @yosef.d1 Před 3 lety

      Indeed. She achieved great things.

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 Před 3 lety +2

      Unlike D199, she actually deserved her title of "Old Reliable".

    • @yosef.d1
      @yosef.d1 Před 3 lety

      @@NorthWestern1919 Indeed, Mr. Oh, Heck.

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 Před 3 lety +2

      @@yosef.d1 In fact, let's compare the two "Old Reliables".
      D199 was an arrogant and rude diesel who ended up failing and had to be pulled along by Henry, who had lost his regulator.
      RMS Olympic, on the other hand, served valiantly in the First World War, rammed a U-Boat, and was involved in several other collisions, none of which ever caused her to sink.

    • @yosef.d1
      @yosef.d1 Před 3 lety

      @@NorthWestern1919 Aye.

  • @capboiproductions7131
    @capboiproductions7131 Před 3 lety +2

    One thing, the Queen Elizabeth’s sister Queen Mary is now a museum ship in Long Beach, California, USA if you would like to visit.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      I'd love to visit Queen Mary if I ever get to California, especially before her condition deteriorates any more.

    • @runawaysmudger7181
      @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +1

      Looks like the hotel just went bankrupt a while ago. I hope Long Beach keep her around

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum Před 3 lety

      We need Elon to buy Queen Mary and refurbish it with his Dogecoin.

  • @aandrews155
    @aandrews155 Před 3 lety

    Nice one, Max. Looking forward to you taking on the movie 😉

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      I'll have to find a cause to at some point! Plenty to talk about I'm sure.

    • @aandrews155
      @aandrews155 Před 3 lety

      @@Terrier55Stepney yessss

  • @dasmann3904
    @dasmann3904 Před 3 lety +1

    Your channel is just my cup of tea (sssiiiiippppp ahh) I love Thomas and steam engines, I love model railways and many years ago I was obsessed with the titanic and sea fairing vessels in general. So this is going to be fun. All That’s needed to complete this is my passion for military equipment!-Das Mann

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you! I'm afraid that's probably where we differ, as I know very little about military equipment! Sorry.

  • @crystalmatthew5649
    @crystalmatthew5649 Před 3 lety +5

    It does in my opinion, but the other ships like Junyo Maru and Wilhelm Gustloff need more attention.

    • @mikbyr
      @mikbyr Před 3 lety

      What's the junyo maru???

  • @Daniel_Huffman
    @Daniel_Huffman Před 3 lety +4

    Amazing video, though you brought up a question that I hope to answer.
    The reason Quartermaster Hitchens turned the ship to port when First Officer Murdoch ordered "Hard to starboard" was because, at the time, ships used tiller commands: Pushing the tiller one way would cause the ship to turn the other way. This was changed with the advent of modern rudders in 1923. Surprisingly, even as a kid, I understood the concept of tiller commands.
    Now, for the obligitary notes on errors in the video, which aren't many. I mean no disrespect to you, but hope to clear things up:
    The _Olympic_ was launched on October 20, 1910, and the _Titanic_ on May 31, 1911, less than a year later.
    The reason why there weren't enough lifeboats would not be to save deck space, but because no one could think of such circumstances happening, and even if they did, the end result could have been like the RMS _Republic,_ which took _so_ long to sink that photographs of the damaged area were taken.
    It would have been a logistical nightmare if the _Titanic_ had enough lifeboats, as the newspapers would no doubt have noticed, and most, if not every ship of the WSL, if not every ocean liner, would have to be withdrawn to put enough lifeboats on board. And while you could knock out that middle section to put more lifeboats, there's nowhere else to put lifeboats in place without stacking them and making the evacuation _more_ complicated. And the last two lifeboats on the actual _Titanic_ had to be floated off as there was no time to launch them.
    Even the new regulations put in place after the disaster sometimes did more harm than good, as is the case with the SS _Eastland,_ which capsized in port in 1915 due to being too topheavy, ironically partially because she had too many lifeboats.
    Alright, that's every error I could find, though I do have one final note: I recreated the _TUGS_ liner SS _Vienna,_ as well as the _TTTE_ ship SS _Roxstar_ in MS Paint; I hope to show them off someday.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for explaining all that Daniel, I appreciate the corrections. I now understand tiller commands refer to the tiller itself, not the helm, which is what I presumed had to be turned the opposite way to the order.
      I understand about the lifeboat situation, with the unpredictability of the boats having to be launched without land or a rescue ship nearby, as well as the fact there wasn't time for more lifeboats to be launched. I'll have to research the RMS Republic and SS Eastland, they sound like fascinating incidents.
      Those MS Paint works sound great!

  • @DmayExpress
    @DmayExpress Před 3 lety +1

    Great work Max. I too am a Titanic and Lusitania Enthusiast.

  • @connorjohnson7834
    @connorjohnson7834 Před 3 lety +1

    Quick thing on the steering. Steering orders where given as tiller commands not wheel commands. I've you imagine a small boat, the tiller is the stick that sticks out the front of the rudder to turn the rudder. To turn to port, you need to push the tiller to starboard. When ships got wheels, you turned the wheel port to turn port but you are still moving the tiller starboard, so the order is given as starboard. Nowadays you give commands to the direction you want to turn rather than tiller commands

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      Ah, I see! That clears it up a bit more, thank you for sharing that. It's confusing that the helm turns to port to turn the tiller to starboard, to turn the rudder to port and thus the ship to port...

  • @arandomyugoslav389
    @arandomyugoslav389 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for making this video it's so cool

  • @finleyrood9933
    @finleyrood9933 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video as usual Max and at 20:52
    Pride of a nation, a beast made of steel
    Bismarck in motion, king of the ocean
    He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
    To lead the war machine
    To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
    The terror of the seas
    The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine

  • @Cessna-er4je
    @Cessna-er4je Před 3 lety +3

    "Why couldn't I be a liner I wonder."
    -Tophat

  • @sodorislandstudios
    @sodorislandstudios Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so much! Finally some other people in the overall trains fandom which cares about ocean liners. I must admit I think Titanic is very over popularized and the actual story has been manipulated by the media but at least its remembered. My favorite liner is Mauritania without a doubt but Olympic is probably in my top ten somewhere. Thanks for a great video, I really enjoyed it!

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you for sharing your interest! I suspected there were others who appreciated ocean liners in the train world but it's still lovely to see I'm not alone. Good choices!

    • @sodorislandstudios
      @sodorislandstudios Před 3 lety

      @@Terrier55Stepney Thanks mate! Loved the video as always!

  • @justin10347
    @justin10347 Před 3 lety +2

    I really appreciate this, it almost made me tear up

  • @NSWSteamFan
    @NSWSteamFan Před 3 lety +2

    I kinda think of the Lusitania than the Titanic. Because the latter was just a matter of hubris and outdated maritime safety regulations.
    The Lusitania incident was an intentional attack that changed the rules of war forever.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +2

      Certainly was a significant moment in 20th century history.

  • @patriciolei9193
    @patriciolei9193 Před 2 lety +1

    At 16:29 in terms of tiller command, starboard means to turn the ship port

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 Před 3 lety +4

    Britannic and Olympic are so criminally underrated. Olympic had a long and eventful career, surviving the first world war and many different accidents before it was finally scrapped in the 30’s.
    Britannic could arguably, be considered a miracle of the First World War, due to the fact they were going to pick up wounded rather than drop off wounded, and the large majority of people were able get off the ship(30 deaths due to some frightened
    Crewman launching the boats to early causing the boats to be sucked into the propellers and torn to shreds). This could have been a much worse result had they had picked up the Wounded before hitting the mine.
    Ontop of that; there’s also the Lusitania. A ship with arguably a worse fate and a more fucked up story behind its fate, Britain using it as a target to get the US into the war by putting ammunitions on the ship, being taken down by a Torpedo causing two explosions and sinking in 18 minutes, where as Titanic and Britannic had 1 Hour and roughly 2.5 Hours respectively. Don’t even get me started on the Wilhem Gustloff.
    Does the Titanic deserve to be famous? Yes. But we need to recognize more ship disasters that were arguably worse, and the stories behind them and the Titanic as well.
    Stephney, Not sure you have seen them, but I recommend you take a look at the Building the Titanic and the Saving the Titanic Documentaries, along with Lusitania Terror at Sea and Britannic 2000.
    I think you’d love them.

    • @wutrudoin5431
      @wutrudoin5431 Před 10 měsíci

      Very late response, but nah.
      No Olympic-class ship is underrated.

  • @TheUlitimateFoe
    @TheUlitimateFoe Před 3 lety

    I remember hearing on a documentary somewhen that there was actually a ship near enough to the Titanic. In those days you had to wind the radio apparatus, the man operating it forgot to do this and so went to bed thinking all was okay. Had he wound the apparatus they would have received the message from the Titanic and more lives could have been saved.

  • @thetoontrain6073
    @thetoontrain6073 Před 3 lety

    wow, never knew you knew so much about the titanic! and im pretty sure you learned about it faster than me!

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      I've been interested in Titanic as long as trains, so probably not as fast!

  • @alexis_ian
    @alexis_ian Před 3 lety +1

    Not typical video for this channel and watching this in my non-trains channel! Anyways for me Titanic is one of the reason why I continue to be intrested in Ocean liners and transportation in general.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      Definitely not a typical topic, but one I felt I wanted to address for a long time. Hope you enjoyed it!

  • @bluebellsfan8704
    @bluebellsfan8704 Před 3 lety

    This was amazing! You did a great job. What do you think about making a video about when the steam locomotives were just invented (Steam engine Industrial Revolution)

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! I'm afraid I don't know too much about the pioneer steam days, but that would be an interesting topic.

    • @bluebellsfan8704
      @bluebellsfan8704 Před 3 lety

      @@Terrier55Stepney np! Also yea I would love to see that video.

  • @calebc.2290
    @calebc.2290 Před 3 lety +2

    That was quite a nice change from steam engines, you know what they say a change is as good as a rest. this opened up a whole lot of stuff to me, I didn’t even come close to knowing half of the of the stuff in this video, so I feel very educated right now thank you.
    Also I can name 5 boats off the top of my head right now too.
    Titanic
    Ten cents
    Theodore
    SS Willie
    Bulstrode

  • @hazyhope._.
    @hazyhope._. Před 3 lety

    16:28 is historically accurate though. In 1912, tiller commands were still being used. So the commands were kind of switched. Yes, Starboard and Port were still right and left. But the commands Hard a Starboard was giving the command to turn the ship left, and vise versa.

  • @TheMidlandTerrier
    @TheMidlandTerrier Před 3 lety +6

    what can i say! You have done another great video Max! IMO i'd say Titanic, Lusitania and Mary rose are most famous.. Cant wait for the next one!

  • @Robabin
    @Robabin Před 3 lety +1

    Man this was spectacular loved how you mentioned the conspiracy theories but like also ignored them it was fun to watch, but I just want to say something:
    When she struck the berg Andrews first theorised she would capsize since she had got a heavy starboard list, but because of the coal fire (yes it did happen but in no way had effect during the sinking), they had to move coal from the starboard bunkers to the port bunkers and actually helped level out the ship and saved lives, but then Scotland Road on E deck flooded and the ship gained a port list.
    Also the reason the quatermaster turned it the wrong way was because of tiller command's, you turn the helm to port the ships turns to starboard turn the helm to starboard the ship turns to port so really he steered it the correct way lol.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 3 lety

      I think after being rammed by a destroyer, running over a German U-boat, and running over a light ship, the Olympic should have been called " Unsinkable".

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      Thank you for sharing that! It is remarkable the ship didn't capsize. I understand tiller commands better now, though I believe that turning the helm to port would mean turn the ship to port, as hard to starboard refers to the tiller itself which spins to starboard.

  • @scanida5070
    @scanida5070 Před 3 lety +18

    American and British authorities after being told that the Titanic split in half:
    *OH NO!*
    Anyway....

  • @beinzgoofensmirtz
    @beinzgoofensmirtz Před 11 měsíci +2

    I am a ship and train enthusiast and I dislike titanic's popularity. I don't hate the ship itself but I think people need to shed light on other ships like RMS Britannia, SS Sirius, SS Great Western, SS Archimedes and the North River Steamboat. Britannia being the first in the cunard fleet, Sirius making the fastest transatlantic voyage of her time, 1 day ahead of the Great Western, Great Western was the first steamship to be built for transatlantic voyages (Great Western is named after the Great Western Railway), Archimedes being the first ship to successfully be driven by a screw propeller and the North River Steamboat was the first commercially successful ship.

  • @luniethegayass
    @luniethegayass Před 3 lety +1

    I missed it I didn't have notifications on :( Also, good job max

  • @williampulfer-melville8536

    Do you plan on doing a video at some point in the future showcasing the characters from tugs and talking about the type of tugboat or vessel that they're based on

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      I'll note it as an idea for the future, though in terms of specific basis' I have limited knowledge.

  • @MrRahul0able1
    @MrRahul0able1 Před 2 lety

    You are excellent ....... I enjoyed. Thank you for this beautiful movie review.

  • @thesilversignal
    @thesilversignal Před 3 lety

    Honestly, I agree with everything in this video, nice job with the video!

  • @rextrek
    @rextrek Před 3 lety

    Excellent synopsis / Appreciated your Take...Narration

  • @robertdawson2710
    @robertdawson2710 Před 3 lety +2

    Mr. Andrew: YES TALKING ABOUT MY SHIP!!!

  • @GeorgeLowther2000
    @GeorgeLowther2000 Před 3 lety +1

    That was great in honour of Today Max!

  • @magicguystudios7940
    @magicguystudios7940 Před 3 lety

    Awesome dude that’s amazing absolutely astounding

  • @streamlinedengine
    @streamlinedengine Před 3 lety

    I’d say Titanic is so famous because it has one of the greatest irony ever: An unsinkable ship, sinks on its first journey. If that brag wasn’t made, I think it wouldn’t be so talked about.
    I always enjoy videos of just you talking! Keep it up!

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      Very true. Thank you!

    • @notpostingvideosanymore790
      @notpostingvideosanymore790 Před 2 lety

      While it is hard to say whether people thought the ship was absolutely unsinkable under any circumstances, it is clear that people believed that the passenger liner's safety design (by Thomas Andrews) was state-of-the-art, and some did describe it as “unsinkable” before it ever set sail.

  • @klipsfilmsmelbourne
    @klipsfilmsmelbourne Před 3 lety +4

    Right now the wreck of the ship is slowing disappearing but her sister ship britannic is still in fine shape though her bow was broke when she impacted on the ocean floor

  • @bow-tiedengineer4453
    @bow-tiedengineer4453 Před 3 lety +1

    very different from your normal stuff, but still quite good!

  • @This_RuthIsOnFire
    @This_RuthIsOnFire Před 3 lety +3

    Fact is: the passengers have become famous, or were extremely famous at the time. There were heroes and villains, it was a complete story, and a terrible tragedy. There was a reason that tragedies captivate humans: because we learn. She was an utterly beautiful ship.

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca Před 3 lety

    32:07 Can you do a video please on the particulars of the World's Dot Contest?!

  • @corieellis6801
    @corieellis6801 Před 3 lety

    Titanic was the 3rd ship I ever found out about but is by far my favourite due to its design and story

  • @quaxky326
    @quaxky326 Před 3 lety +1

    Me: Hey guy’s do you like my yacht?
    My friends: OMG IS THAT THE TITANIC?!?!?!?!!??

  • @Johnathan04
    @Johnathan04 Před 3 lety

    16:28 they were using tiller commands- so if you wanted to go to the starboard side, you’d turn the wheel to the left. So yes they were right in the movie.

  • @icebergtowinganddogmortgag1516

    the background music reminds me of a game i played as a kid

  • @Peekarica
    @Peekarica Před rokem

    13:56 Are there more pictures of the wooden Titanic model?

  • @runawaysmudger7181
    @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety

    Titanic could have recieved more press coverage after her maiden voyage had she not sunk. Because her schedule to meet the maiden voyage was really tight due to her fitting out being delayed twice as White Star had to prioritize Olympic's repair to get her back into service. She was just not fit to be seen prior to the voyage you might say
    Also it's actually the Canadian troops who called the Olympic "Old Reliable" when she was stationed to Halifax in WW1. And to say the Olympic offered to help the Titanic would be an understatement. From around 2am that night to dawn the Olympic wireless constantly blared out "Have you seen MGY (Titanic)" to other ships in the area. Listening to all the radio chatter that night it's just heartbreaking

  • @J.Tthebluepannier6375
    @J.Tthebluepannier6375 Před 3 lety +1

    i guess this should be interesting, i here'd it a few times, but this time, i'm just gonna skip it since i have other plans to do.

  • @Kaidhicksii
    @Kaidhicksii Před 3 lety +3

    To put a long story short, she's famous for the wrong reasons. That said considering the story, yeah: she deserves to be remembered. She should be remembered. As Winston Churchill once said: those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Love me my trains and Thomas, but thank you for giving Titanic her due this past week. My respect and love for you and your channel has grown even more than it already has. :)

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      Very aptly put. Thank you so much for your support, it's nice to hear you enjoyed the brief departure from trains.

  • @scanida5070
    @scanida5070 Před 3 lety +2

    18:43
    Geneva Convention? More like Geneva Suggestion...

  • @wills_corner
    @wills_corner Před 3 lety +2

    I love all the little jokes for the Titanic nerds :) The burns, the biggest ship, the novel "The Wreck of the Titan", CoNsPiRaCiEs GaLoRe... . . . .

  • @RishantYT747fan
    @RishantYT747fan Před 3 lety +2

    RMS Titanic will be alive forever ♥
    RIP Every one who died on Titanic And the ship itself
    You all will be missed...😔🙁😟😥☹😭😔😩😓😢😦

  • @Cold-Blooded-Jay
    @Cold-Blooded-Jay Před 3 lety

    When I think of ship disasters, I think of the Wilhelm Gustloff. Indisputably the most nightmarish and tragic ship sinking in human history. 6 times as many souls went down on that ship compared to Titanic, the vessel was filled 5 times over capacity so you can imagine the panic inside, the lights and electricity died instantly, it sank twice as fast as Titanic, began to capsize so few lifeboats could be launched, and it was during a violent storm also in freezing waters.

  • @UnknownShotsUK
    @UnknownShotsUK Před 2 lety

    im in that stage of my life being obsessed with the titanic, good video tho

  • @sierralvx
    @sierralvx Před 3 lety

    I've never thought about the notoriety of titanic this way! I've seen that people believe Titanic is so famous because it had the most casualties at sea, but that's not true. Wilhelm Gustloff was the most tragic loss at sea at over 9000 deaths, but since it was during wartime it isn't counted. That's my only gripe about Titanic being so well known, that other tragic stories don't get the recognition they deserve.
    Also 6:39 I can't unsee that now, that's adorable!

  • @robloxdude7564
    @robloxdude7564 Před 2 lety

    Hard to starboard, as its a tiller command, means turn the tiller handle to starboard, which turns the ship to PORT

  • @damnedman0455
    @damnedman0455 Před 3 lety

    Seeing another Thomas / railway fan be so invested in Titanic is so awesome to see.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      I've been interested in railways and Titanic for equal amounts of time, and it was really nice to finally talk about it.

  • @patman3520
    @patman3520 Před 3 lety +1

    A very simplified version: Titanic is so famous for the following reason: "shes unsinkable". She sank. She was practically a giant lie and her creators were arrogant and didnt care about human lifes.

  • @zachg9065
    @zachg9065 Před 3 lety

    Great video. The Olympic really should have been preserved IMO. The design of the Olympic class is the best of it’s era I think.

    • @Hannibalian
      @Hannibalian Před rokem

      Sadly, nobody thought ahead back then.

  • @prehistoricliners6717
    @prehistoricliners6717 Před 3 lety

    I love this video

  • @jaguar4u2012
    @jaguar4u2012 Před 3 lety

    Hard to starboard command meant turn the tiller to starboard side... so the ship could turn to port
    and vice versa

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop Před 3 lety

    Description doesn't have the link mentioned at the end...

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety +1

      What it does say, is that I couldn't find the link. It may have been removed.

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca Před 3 lety

    Hard of starboard refers to the rudder direction - not the direction of the wheel necessarily.

  • @williampulfer-melville8536

    A lightship that serves as the inspiration for Lillie Lightship from Tugs and actors as the namesake for the Notorious tramp steamer Nantucket

  • @Hammerandhearth
    @Hammerandhearth Před 3 lety +2

    Thumbs up for the music.

    • @Terrier55Stepney
      @Terrier55Stepney  Před 3 lety

      Wanted something that felt appropriately Irish and what I found was ideal. Credit at the end.

  • @robertbalazslorincz8218
    @robertbalazslorincz8218 Před 3 lety +3

    To be honest, there are so many shipwrecks that could be as famous.
    (Name a shipwreck if you want, lets get a collection of them!)

  • @nadhifditraproduction840

    16:33 ship's with sails turns different and that is why they are turning left even if they say right because he is a veteran of a ship with sails
    Example
    On sail ship's direction
    Left=right
    Right=left

  • @AdamArBast99
    @AdamArBast99 Před 3 lety +1

    22:59 Look! It's Sunshine form TUGS!

  • @LeaveTheMark_YT
    @LeaveTheMark_YT Před 3 lety +2

    No one asks to be famous, its popular opinion that decides on that.

  • @Contrabasstubone
    @Contrabasstubone Před 3 lety

    Fun fact: When a u.s. senator inquired on behalf of American passages on board the ship. Ismay the president of white star line tried to send a coded message to basically get him the hell away by encoding his name as
    Yamsi... yea sooo stealthy.
    Unfortunately the u.s. Navy intercepted the message and the senator basically ordered him to the inquiry.

  • @theshiphistorian5820
    @theshiphistorian5820 Před 3 lety

    Two inaccuracies I saw in the film:
    Captain smith dying in the bridge, false he was seen jumping off the bridge wing with Thomas Andrews
    No port list

  • @OBrasilo
    @OBrasilo Před 3 lety

    So you never heard of the Costa Concordia? It was in worldwide news and it even collided with the rocks just three months before the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic.

  • @chrishiggins8941
    @chrishiggins8941 Před 2 lety

    I went there in 2019 and good to see the tweezers still on the bow around 8 mins in hahaha