yeah, Kiwi starts with really low move and HP but with great def... Slade also has low HP but awesome speed... though Peter is a game breaker... way too powerful in this game...
+PhantomPianist91 i agree, i almost have to spoon feed them weakened enemies when they are starting off due to them being weak but yeah they are two of my favorites
@@felipenascimento83 late to the party but how can you call a phoenix overpowered ? Its the magic of old game that show "worthy hero are followed by the mighty pure". I hate how nowadays the hero a nobody that become stronger than the world instead of being the one who has most value and supported by even stronger!
I'm not sure I've come across another youtube video with exclusively positive comments. I just finished the game and it was my first RPG as a kid. I am 30 now. such a nice feeling to come back and finish it.
The genesis era of the Shining games are connected in the following games: Shining Force, Shining Force CD (which is actually the first 2 Shining Force GameGear games stitched into one game), Shining Force Gaiden (the 3rd GameGear Shining Force gamer), Shining in the Darkness, Shining Force 2, and Shining in the Holy Arc.
You can easily level every one up if you have a protective ring because everytime you use it on any character with 4 others you get 25 exp each time. Although it sounds a little exp its better to get 25 than 1 exp every time you kill an enemy if your strong between level 31-99
Man, it must've taken a long time to get your characters this strong! After they get up to the higher levels, it seems to take forever for them to gain experience.
This brings back my old memories when I played this as a child several times now ur makes me cry I can't play it anymore one of the best stories ever kept me entertained forever.m.i love this game alot..
You'll probably be jealous, but I still play it...I have a console called the Retron 3 that plays NES, SNES, and Genesis games, and SF2 is one of the games I have. ;-)
not really... i still have my old consoles individually as well and can play them any time... however i am trying to finish every game i have now... i am in game number 857 now and u can see all of them here in the 1387 vids of my channel... cant say i am jealous... ;)
***** Oh OK, that's cool. Actually, I should be the jealous one. You definitely have more games than I do! I was attempting to beat Castlevania III the other day...that's a tough one!
If you've got a PC, download Steam and both SF 1 and SF 2 are on there for like 3 bucks each. That's how I'm playing them. Question is, where's the best place to grind for levels in 2?
This will always be one of my all time favorite games, yet I can’t believe just how much the difficulty has curved from the original, even if you play on Easy. I just wished the Mithril Weapons weren’t so annoying to get at since you would mostly get ones you wouldn’t want. Not to mention the grinding seems unclear to me on good places to do so. Does anyone have advice? I grinded with those Flower Cannons, but after they got to like level 30 or so, every enemy I faced afterwards don’t give much.
I remember playing shining force many times for years and while dark dragon was tough he never truly scared me the same way Zeon did. From what I understand we saw the whole dark dragon in shining force but yet we only faced Zeons head in this game and it was only ONE head as opposed to three of dark dragons…apparently zeon wasn’t even fully revived when they defeated him here while dark dragon if I remember correctly was…imagine if zeon was revived. Zeon seemed twisted and like a mentally insane version of dark dragon and more fierce but with only one head and not even us facing the fully revived zeon. The difference is these characters were much stronger than the ones that faced dark dragon so if I remember this fight was easier but for the reason that our characters were way stronger than the final battle ones who faced dark dragon and darksol in the first. I haven’t played any games of the series beside these two and shining in the darkness…. I read they have some many I have no idea how they compare to the original three. I heard they have shining game for switch…is that any good or anything close to as good or like shining force one and two? I just googled pics of it and it didn’t look anything like this :/
bowie should've ended up with sarah (with that said, i still think the bit after the credits where everyone celebrates bowie's and elis's new found love is really sweet)
I just beat this game and couldn't agree more. What a bunch of assholes suggesting Bowie should pork the princess and break Sarah and Jaha's aching hearts instead.
I got the main character too Level 99. I think I used a ring maybe the healing ring. I had him used it till a cracked appear and retreat to fix it and do it again. It did take a while and having a Sega Nomad helped as I would lay in bed playing it
Bravo for getting your dudes that cranked. I never had the patience for it once enemies started giving you 1XP per kill. Ashamed to say I used a save editor just to see the cool 4th tier spells.
Almost same as me...For me,I used the save editor to keep getting the stat-boost items for my combatants,until even at barely level 30,my team can survive the fight against Zeon without much struggle...But then,it start to feel kinda like not so satisfying(especially with the ending where Lemon and Galam have to be sacrificed to seal Zeon)
You can find Kiwi in 1 of the house at the southern part of Granseal,after the possessed Galam waged a war against Granseal,where many Granseal soldiers have died...
It gets even worse, Jaha wants the princess but can't because he's a dwarf, Sarah wants the hero and Sarah was the one who fought with him throughout the adventure (or at least until the middle of it because you can't change her until a good part ), Chester wants to go and console her because Sarah (an elf) can't have the hero because the hero (because the hero is human?), Chester (Sarah's friend for a long time) is prevented by Kazin from going after her and just listens a "she needs someone like me" and is totally naive, the hero basically has no choice and the whole gang seems drunk, everyone agreeing that Bowie should be with the princess (WHICH HE BARELY KNOWS), or else this all ends in " It doesn't matter if you were more important to that person, what matters is that "I AM THAT (same species) AND YOU'RE NOT" DAMN RACISTS! Worst ending I've ever seen in an RPG (and I started and finished playing this game this year and this ending really disappointed me), I tried to use exit magic to escape the castle, I tried to examine the walls, climb to the tower, finally, save the world and be FORCED to stay with a useless princess who did NOTHING to help me and even got in the way by being captured when there are powerful choices and a thousand times better (Sarah or Karna, Karna is not even present at the end) to get married "Ah, but🥴 in Shinning Wisdom, Sarah and Kazin become demon 🥴hunters" She could also become this along with Bowie, it makes no sense to say that she would be discarded!
@@user-uq4cf5kt5fit’s to bad that we can’t have an choice not to kiss the princess the hero we knew for a day heck Disney romance last longer than a day
Matias Péres It's not a big conspiracy. These games were made by mostly white/asian developers in mostly white/asian countries. If these games were invented and developed in africa every character would be black. It makes perfect sense.
Can someone explain to me what the very end with the witch is all about? Is that supposed to be the Goddess MItula? Was this game all a dream or what, I don't get it. Maybe I'm being overly autistic.
I checked Shining Force Central before looking up this video but couldn't find any information on this. It's frustrating because it doesn't make sense for it to be Mitula... it doesn't really make sense for Bowie to be trapped in the forest to begin with only for him to be transported back to his supposed real life back home, unless he was under a spell that temporary induced amnesia.I just noticed today that the blue haired girl at the end is wearing the red and blue jewels from the game. Didn't Mitula keep those stones at the end? Agh this ending doesn't make any sense to me, what am I not understanding!!
When I was younger and had no Internet access I thought the witch was just herself, a character from outside the story. Then searching on Internet I began to believe that she was Mitula, but now I see that it doesn't makes much sense, the only thing in common among them is the hair colour; one has amber eyes and straight hair, the other has purple eyes, curly hair and a darker skin tone. I like the idea of her being her own character, if she's Mitula then the designers really messed up (aside from that princess bullshit ending), they forgot to change her design into her final version (or maybe didn't felt like redrawing her again and changing her sprites?) and released the game like that.
There's another shining game where spirits help the main character or something like that and the player is the spirit. So I imagine in that scene she's talking to you the player.
People hate Ninian from Fire Emblem 7 but Elis is worst: Ninian has some interaction with Eliwood, Elis talk to Bowie only twice. Ninian can be usefull, Elis is't a playable character. And if you whant to make the main character marry whith the blue (or green) haired action girl you can in Fire Emblem .
Lemon survived that was him at the knocked down state he was possessed by a demon he didn’t even fall in why would the demon fall in also galam fell in the gateway to arc valley but still he came out just fine
Yes. First when you get to the fairy woods be careful and get your characters to level 40. All that you have. Then promote all. You’ll fight the lesser demon first. Put a winged character over the mist demon. Once you yield 1exp point I put another winged character over the Harpy pond. Then I go up to the left where the Orc appears. I level up till it only yields 1 exp. point. After that take on the most demon in the middle. Once you get Peter, Kiwi and Luke upgraded you can use them to fight the first Demon Mist at the first pond. Until then keep blocking that 1st Mist Demon off. Once you promote your characters after getting to level 40, start at the Lesser Demon again. This should get all of your characters to level 9 promoted or level 49. Then block off the Lesser Demon and take on the Mist Demon; right there when you first come in, where it spawns at the pond. Get all characters to level 23. Then all the way up to the top of the map there is a Dark Mage. Like the one who stands next to Zeon. That enemy will get your characters to level 29. Then when fighting Zeon take on the Zeon Guards to get to level 32. It’s the prism flower things. After that it is basically you and Zeon. You can grind away on Zeon. This will take forever though. To speed it up keep loading up medical herbs and your Vicr Freija and your three Master Monks should already be level 99. Just keep using herbs and attacking Zeon with one character until you’re done. You can farm Cameela for XP. You can farm pretty much every boss for tons of XP. This is how you grind out. The secret is the FAIRY WOODS.
Kiwi and Slade were always my favorite characters. They both start with the certain disadvantages but when promoted turn into real monsters.
yeah, Kiwi starts with really low move and HP but with great def... Slade also has low HP but awesome speed... though Peter is a game breaker... way too powerful in this game...
+PhantomPianist91 i agree, i almost have to spoon feed them weakened enemies when they are starting off due to them being weak but yeah they are two of my favorites
@@felipenascimento83 late to the party but how can you call a phoenix overpowered ? Its the magic of old game that show "worthy hero are followed by the mighty pure". I hate how nowadays the hero a nobody that become stronger than the world instead of being the one who has most value and supported by even stronger!
Besides, the main character, Peter The Phoenix will always be my all-time favorite fighter!
I love it when you can first control him. His attacks are hilarious, releases bubbles and goes all "blub blub blub".
I prefer his 2nd attack when he becomes a Phoenix. Far more devastating.
@@jayesper4390 Indeed x) The funniest thing tho is that the "blub blub blub" looks weak, while actually he's super strong !
🌪️🌪️🌪️
never dies
Must have taken quite a while to make Kiwi into such a powerful creature. Most impressive.
I'm not sure I've come across another youtube video with exclusively positive comments. I just finished the game and it was my first RPG as a kid. I am 30 now. such a nice feeling to come back and finish it.
The genesis era of the Shining games are connected in the following games: Shining Force, Shining Force CD (which is actually the first 2 Shining Force GameGear games stitched into one game), Shining Force Gaiden (the 3rd GameGear Shining Force gamer), Shining in the Darkness, Shining Force 2, and Shining in the Holy Arc.
i never saw such high level charakters, amaizing work dude
:) One of the best megadrive RPG endings
This game kicks ass. A gem.
This game was fucen fun. One of the best rpgs imo..
yeah i love this one as well...
This is the only ending to a game that has made me cry.
You can easily level every one up if you have a protective ring because everytime you use it on any character with 4 others you get 25 exp each time. Although it sounds a little exp its better to get 25 than 1 exp every time you kill an enemy if your strong between level 31-99
Man, it must've taken a long time to get your characters this strong! After they get up to the higher levels, it seems to take forever for them to gain experience.
thats true but some actions always give 10 exp like using herbs or healing...
True! I'll have to try playing it again; it's been awhile!
This brings back my old memories when I played this as a child several times now ur makes me cry I can't play it anymore one of the best stories ever kept me entertained forever.m.i love this game alot..
yeah i liked it too
You'll probably be jealous, but I still play it...I have a console called the Retron 3 that plays NES, SNES, and Genesis games, and SF2 is one of the games I have. ;-)
not really... i still have my old consoles individually as well and can play them any time... however i am trying to finish every game i have now... i am in game number 857 now and u can see all of them here in the 1387 vids of my channel... cant say i am jealous... ;)
***** Oh OK, that's cool. Actually, I should be the jealous one. You definitely have more games than I do! I was attempting to beat Castlevania III the other day...that's a tough one!
If you've got a PC, download Steam and both SF 1 and SF 2 are on there for like 3 bucks each. That's how I'm playing them. Question is, where's the best place to grind for levels in 2?
R.I.P. Red Baron - the true hero! :'D
"Groovy"
Groove in peace
ΕΧΕΙΣ ΔΙΚΙΟ . ΤΟΝ ΠΗΡΕ ΜΑΖΙ ΤΟΥ ΣΤΟΝ ΚΑΤΩ ΚΟΣΜΟ . ΣΤΟΝ ΑΔΗ - HADES
He can’t die he is a good vampire
He has made the ultimate sacrifice.
This will always be one of my all time favorite games, yet I can’t believe just how much the difficulty has curved from the original, even if you play on Easy. I just wished the Mithril Weapons weren’t so annoying to get at since you would mostly get ones you wouldn’t want. Not to mention the grinding seems unclear to me on good places to do so. Does anyone have advice? I grinded with those Flower Cannons, but after they got to like level 30 or so, every enemy I faced afterwards don’t give much.
there is 1 mithril shard for each weapon you can get.
I believe items like shield ring are nice for xp farming at any level
Shining force two and beyond oasis are the best Genesis games there it is.
I remember playing shining force many times for years and while dark dragon was tough he never truly scared me the same way Zeon did. From what I understand we saw the whole dark dragon in shining force but yet we only faced Zeons head in this game and it was only ONE head as opposed to three of dark dragons…apparently zeon wasn’t even fully revived when they defeated him here while dark dragon if I remember correctly was…imagine if zeon was revived. Zeon seemed twisted and like a mentally insane version of dark dragon and more fierce but with only one head and not even us facing the fully revived zeon. The difference is these characters were much stronger than the ones that faced dark dragon so if I remember this fight was easier but for the reason that our characters were way stronger than the final battle ones who faced dark dragon and darksol in the first. I haven’t played any games of the series beside these two and shining in the darkness…. I read they have some many I have no idea how they compare to the original three. I heard they have shining game for switch…is that any good or anything close to as good or like shining force one and two? I just googled pics of it and it didn’t look anything like this :/
Zeons intro was really something......"the other devil."
bowie should've ended up with sarah (with that said, i still think the bit after the credits where everyone celebrates bowie's and elis's new found love is really sweet)
Impressive how tough you've gotten everyone.
I loved this game but hated the ending. That princess was just far too annoying.
lulz!! I was thinking the same thing. Actually, most of the cutscenes in the game were very annoying!
I just beat this game and couldn't agree more. What a bunch of assholes suggesting Bowie should pork the princess and break Sarah and Jaha's aching hearts instead.
Keranu
jaha plays for the other team ?
daniel spell Well we do know Sarah wanted the princess :P
Jayesper
Funny thing is sarah means
Princess.
I got the main character too Level 99. I think I used a ring maybe the healing ring. I had him used it till a cracked appear and retreat to fix it and do it again. It did take a while and having a Sega Nomad helped as I would lay in bed playing it
Bravo for getting your dudes that cranked. I never had the patience for it once enemies started giving you 1XP per kill.
Ashamed to say I used a save editor just to see the cool 4th tier spells.
Almost same as me...For me,I used the save editor to keep getting the stat-boost items for my combatants,until even at barely level 30,my team can survive the fight against Zeon without much struggle...But then,it start to feel kinda like not so satisfying(especially with the ending where Lemon and Galam have to be sacrificed to seal Zeon)
As a shining force 2 veteran, it's painful watching the extremely high levels of your part, grinding in this game.....oh so many hours.
+Saint Gamer i think this one was the only strategy game i grinded for fun... secret forest gave so much exp i got overpowered without noticing...
***** Imagine if the HP and MP didn't stop at 200, oh lord.
When BIG HAIR still was a thing. Hahaha. These years big hair started to fade away though.
MORE SHINING FORCE 2 PLEASEEEE
There's a second ending if you wait five minutes after the jewels appear.
Yeah a secert battle with all the bosses
That's the boldest playing with Luke I've ever seen haha
best game ever. fantastic storyline. great music.
I feel sorry for Sarah, though...
Same.
Bowie and Princess Ellis will become King in Queen of granseal kingdom in the future.
anthony white the princess was just so stupid
He could have been with May
Kid didn’t get a choice in the matter, they just got all racist and paired him up with a rich human
Where did you get that term for Racist it’s an old game also who cares about the race in the game
@@yoshihell4160 i think he's talking about how jaha didn't end up with elis because he wasn't a human
18:30
When you’re so overleveled you use Luke and Kiwi
Lol, lv90+ chars? Holy fuck. You didn't just beat the game. It's a real joke now!
Sahra should have gotten her happy ending, chose anyone else to kiss the princess. Poor side girls..
Is it possible to beat this game without Kiwi? I honestly don't ever remember recruiting him when i played
Age Cali he was an optional recruit early in the game, from my recollection. Start with really low hp, but high defense.
You can find Kiwi in 1 of the house at the southern part of Granseal,after the possessed Galam waged a war against Granseal,where many Granseal soldiers have died...
Why does the hero have to kiss the princess when he has known her for only one day when May the centaur would have been a much better choice for him?
It gets even worse, Jaha wants the princess but can't because he's a dwarf, Sarah wants the hero and Sarah was the one who fought with him throughout the adventure (or at least until the middle of it because you can't change her until a good part ), Chester wants to go and console her because Sarah (an elf) can't have the hero because the hero (because the hero is human?), Chester (Sarah's friend for a long time) is prevented by Kazin from going after her and just listens a "she needs someone like me" and is totally naive, the hero basically has no choice and the whole gang seems drunk, everyone agreeing that Bowie should be with the princess (WHICH HE BARELY KNOWS), or else this all ends in " It doesn't matter if you were more important to that person, what matters is that "I AM THAT (same species) AND YOU'RE NOT" DAMN RACISTS!
Worst ending I've ever seen in an RPG (and I started and finished playing this game this year and this ending really disappointed me), I tried to use exit magic to escape the castle, I tried to examine the walls, climb to the tower, finally, save the world and be FORCED to stay with a useless princess who did NOTHING to help me and even got in the way by being captured when there are powerful choices and a thousand times better (Sarah or Karna, Karna is not even present at the end) to get married
"Ah, but🥴 in Shinning Wisdom, Sarah and Kazin become demon 🥴hunters" She could also become this along with Bowie, it makes no sense to say that she would be discarded!
@@user-uq4cf5kt5f it’s the hero who kissed the princess and they have to be together
@@user-uq4cf5kt5fit’s to bad that we can’t have an choice not to kiss the princess the hero we knew for a day heck Disney romance last longer than a day
No musashi? Am I mis-remembering or is he a secret character in the game?
Muashi is SF1.
could u imagine a black princess? a few years ago i began noticing how we are programmed to think a certain way.
Matias Péres It's not a big conspiracy. These games were made by mostly white/asian developers in mostly white/asian countries. If these games were invented and developed in africa every character would be black. It makes perfect sense.
Dragaan Well, u can see that Miss Japan 2015 isn't japanese at all, so even japanese are tired of themselves...
I wanted May and The hero to be a couple
Cool but they weren’t into that
How were you able to level up the characters o:? I mean you mostly earn One EXP
after level 30 I believe :P? I don't know.
***** using healing items on urself give more exp. and there is also that secret map in the town that gives absurd exp...
+Felipe Nascimento what town
+Felipe Nascimento and secret battle the one with all bosses by waiting at the fin screen for a few minutes
Eyy zylo
@@_Tzer But after killing all the bosses,the game just ended,without us getting to save
Great game!!!
yeah!!
Hello. I suscribe your channel. LIKE
The next time you play serch up the most powerful mithril weapons and go for that
Can someone explain to me what the very end with the witch is all about? Is that supposed to be the Goddess MItula? Was this game all a dream or what, I don't get it. Maybe I'm being overly autistic.
I checked Shining Force Central before looking up this video but couldn't find any information on this. It's frustrating because it doesn't make sense for it to be Mitula... it doesn't really make sense for Bowie to be trapped in the forest to begin with only for him to be transported back to his supposed real life back home, unless he was under a spell that temporary induced amnesia.I just noticed today that the blue haired girl at the end is wearing the red and blue jewels from the game. Didn't Mitula keep those stones at the end? Agh this ending doesn't make any sense to me, what am I not understanding!!
When I was younger and had no Internet access I thought the witch was just herself, a character from outside the story. Then searching on Internet I began to believe that she was Mitula, but now I see that it doesn't makes much sense, the only thing in common among them is the hair colour; one has amber eyes and straight hair, the other has purple eyes, curly hair and a darker skin tone. I like the idea of her being her own character, if she's Mitula then the designers really messed up (aside from that princess bullshit ending), they forgot to change her design into her final version (or maybe didn't felt like redrawing her again and changing her sprites?) and released the game like that.
@@GenWagen lol sounds very Japanese
There's another shining game where spirits help the main character or something like that and the player is the spirit. So I imagine in that scene she's talking to you the player.
@@coballard5334 But is the witch supposed to be Mitula?
People hate Ninian from Fire Emblem 7 but Elis is worst:
Ninian has some interaction with Eliwood, Elis talk to Bowie only twice.
Ninian can be usefull, Elis is't a playable character.
And if you whant to make the main character marry whith the blue (or green) haired action girl you can in Fire Emblem .
Not her fault she was captured by galam who was possessed
@@yoshihell4160 but she is not a true person she is a characters written only to be a damsel in distress
I thought Lemon died near the start of the game when that earthquake happened? or was that someone else?
no, that was another char that i dont remember... u only recruit Lemon quite late in the game... and he is an enemy at first...
PyramidHead138 he doesn't die just has the wind knocked out of him
Lemon survived that was him at the knocked down state he was possessed by a demon he didn’t even fall in why would the demon fall in also galam fell in the gateway to arc valley but still he came out just fine
Chester yay
Come on, let poor old Zeon do shit! lol
why the stats appear as "??" ?
cause they are over 99... though, except of hp and mp, i cant know if it is 100 or 199... :(
...Zeon got killed...by CHESTER.
Talk about an insulting defeat lol.
overleveled much?
yes.
If you use game genie you can use a herb to level helps
if u use game genie, u can level up with 1 exp killing any enemy...
i google there are only game genie codes for herbs level up, even if have hit an enemy level up it is only for a few characters only...
Best ending yet
How did you get to those levels?
+Christophe Robinson secret forest level
+Felipe Nascimento I see, so thats what you did
why the hell is zeon so weak? hardly fits for a final boss, and the ending doesn't even attempt to avoid cliches
welcome back to 90's
Plot-wise, he hasn’t fully recovered. With the jewel of evil, he’s at full power.
True because zeon only is that powerful one year from the earthquake
wtf so high level. there's no grinding in this game so how tf did you do that?
there is grinding. u can use herbs on urself. some actions also gives fixed xp.
@@felipenascimento83 wow. so u keep buyin herbs, use it repeatedly and egress to then restart the battle? you're a patient guy. salute.
Yes. First when you get to the fairy woods be careful and get your characters to level 40. All that you have. Then promote all. You’ll fight the lesser demon first. Put a winged character over the mist demon. Once you yield 1exp point I put another winged character over the Harpy pond. Then I go up to the left where the Orc appears. I level up till it only yields 1 exp. point. After that take on the most demon in the middle. Once you get Peter, Kiwi and Luke upgraded you can use them to fight the first Demon Mist at the first pond. Until then keep blocking that 1st Mist Demon off. Once you promote your characters after getting to level 40, start at the Lesser Demon again. This should get all of your characters to level 9 promoted or level 49. Then block off the Lesser Demon and take on the Mist Demon; right there when you first come in, where it spawns at the pond. Get all characters to level 23. Then all the way up to the top of the map there is a Dark Mage. Like the one who stands next to Zeon. That enemy will get your characters to level 29. Then when fighting Zeon take on the Zeon Guards to get to level 32. It’s the prism flower things. After that it is basically you and Zeon. You can grind away on Zeon. This will take forever though. To speed it up keep loading up medical herbs and your Vicr Freija and your three Master Monks should already be level 99. Just keep using herbs and attacking Zeon with one character until you’re done. You can farm Cameela for XP. You can farm pretty much every boss for tons of XP. This is how you grind out. The secret is the FAIRY WOODS.
Or use a protect ring boost
So how do you get the good ending? What do you mean this is the good ending?!
Yes, this is the good ending
Or it’s the only ending you can’t change it it’s only one ending
I wanted the hero to be with may
Vc não usou as promoções ?
+Renato LZeppelin usei em todos
pog
como consegue esse nivel tao alto?
Marcos gamer™ se vc se curar da sempre a mesma experiencia... e tem uma floresta secreta numa cidade onde os inimigos dao mta experiencia tb...
***** ah vlw
Felipe Nascimento aonde fica essa batalha cara eu ja zerei esse jogo um par de vez e nao lembro dessa batalha
Cara, que partida sem graça, o melhor era sofrer com os lvls baixos tentando passar, do que uns lvls altos matando monstros facilmente.
e não mostrar o quão forte cada personagem pode ficar?... é só uma maneira diferente de jogar...