Does changing where your router's antenna point give you faster WIFI speed?
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Is WiFi Internet speed affected by which way your router’s antennas are pointing? Should the antennas be up or down or perhaps a combination?
Today I put tested various antenna combinations to see what happens to the WiFi speed and signal strength based on the position and direction of the router's antennas.
Interesting results...
0:00 Which way should your antennas point?
0:35 Two types of routers
1:00 How the tests will be run
1:21 Test 1 - Router's Antennas are vertical
2:35 Test 2 - Router's Antennas are horizontal
3:09 Test 3 - Router's Antennas are Combined
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The wireless signal radiates perpendicular to that of the antenna direction. Think of the antenna going through the hole of a donut. The donut shows the signal direction. Antennas pointing up, have a signal useful for ground level. Horizontal, for upper/lower levels. Also the wireless waves from each antenna interact with each other when they hit (wirelessly) and where these wave hit, they combine to create something called 'constructive interference', which intensifies its strength in a direction between the two radiating waves. In two dimensions it's easy to think of it like this...
🡡 = Antenna vertical pointing up (waves radiate directionally left and right: ⟷)
🡢 = Antenna horizontal pointing right (waves radiate directionally up and down: ↕)
🡥 = Constructive interference (where the waves hit each other and combine resulting in more strength)
🡥 = 🡡 + 🡢 (constructive wave radiates: *⤡* and *⤢* )
It's best to try and have each of the antennas pointed at different angles as to cause more constructive interference between the wireless signals. There are optimal direction/angles to use for each but it depends upon where the signal needs to go. For most cases people can get away with a 3 antenna setup with antenna 1 pointing out 45 degrees from center antenna and bent 45 degrees. Antenna 2 (center) pointing straight up. Antenna 3 pointing out -45 degrees (aka 315 degrees) and bent 45 degrees.
._ *⤣* ____ *↑* ____ *⤤* _.
| I'm a router |
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Arguably better info than the video, thanks.
Does this apply to wifi extenders too?
@@Amithrius I agree
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It's nice to know that antenna position makes a difference, depending on geography.
The receiving devices also have antennas and if the are in the same orientation as the transmitter the will receive a strong signal and as their orientations diverge, the signal will weaken. So desk top computers, and fixed wife receivers like TV, players, etc will have much different reception than hand held devices like iPads and mobile phones. For interest lookup antenna polizartion. Interesting test by the way.
So the sender and reciever antennae should be placed parallel to one another?
@@davecrupel2817 yes, and never perpendicular.
Love the info ❤️💕. btw what app did you use to measure wifi signal?
This channel is so good!
Great video thanks! Will try this out
Thanks for this video, helped with my lagging
Great! Thank you! What is the WiFi analyzer you used, app/model? Thanks
I stood next to my router,did a test with the 4 antennas vertical and then did another test with them as horizontal as possible. The difference was unbelievable,the speed went up significantly in the horizontal position. Thanks.
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Antenna waves go perpendicular... so wherever the antenna is facing the waves will go out the sides of it. It's best to put the router on the middle floor and attach it to a wall at half wall height, so the antennas are pointing straight out (with slight angle adjustments) and point the sides of the antennas towards rooms in your house. My TP-Link AX6000 has 8 antennas and dual band 5GHz. I have it on the wall in my office and with simply angling them correctly I'm getting 700Mbps Wi-Fi upstairs and downstairs. It only drops off at the furthest point which is the garage that has concrete walls... and still getting 200Mbps there.
Or you can just put the router in the middle of your home and point some antenna horizontally. Just what I want, a router bolted to my wall with antenna sticking out. I require every bit of the signal to go up. From straight up to about a 30 degree angle up. I for certain reasons, have my router on the second lowest level of a 5 floor house. I have nothing that requires a signal below or even at the same level of the router. I'm toying with metal plates at certain levels below the router but, these might cause interference, instead of reflection. Not getting into how wi-fi signals work and wavelength equations. I guess the concrete and earth foundation is enough and putting the router in the open (not on a wall) with easily penatrated materials or lack thereof around it. I am toying with one horizontal antenna and one at about a 70° angle. I am toying with bot being bored as well. ;)
Thanks for the video. I used the same signal analyzer you did, then tested like you did and it does make some difference depending on antenna positions. BTW: I also raised the height position of my WiFi router, on a ceramic shelf, approximately 2+ meters above the floor. This also seemed to help my signal by -10 dBm.
What's the App called?
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Thanks! 😃
Love. Your videos man
🤔 why didn't I know that but now I do. Thank you!
And now you do 👍 glad it was helpful and thanks for the message and hanging out here - more to come
Thank you! 👍
What app are you using to test signal strength/speed? Thanks!
have my router mounted (zip tied) to the top back of my flat panel TV. Should I mount it on the wall instead. Other possible spot is on a shelf next to the TV, but will that hinder the signal?
I have the route thingy on the right. I would not know how to point the antennas if I had one of those. Now I know! Hashtag prepared
Hashtag you are awesome! thanks for hanging out here🔥
The first thing to determine is which band each antenna is broadcasting. Each will be either 2.4GHz or 5GHz but not both. Once you figure that out then you can make better choices.
The signal radiates radially perpendicular from the antenna. In a perfect world the antenna is parallel to the antenna in the remote device so the resonant signal can be picked up.
Ideally you want antennas 90deg off from each other; ideally there are 3 antenna per band and each would be in a 3d 90deg orientation from each other (like the corner of a cube, one in the X one in the Y and one in the Z axis.
Things like this is often left out, very essential and should be the first thing to say.
Thank you.
Stop making sense! No, just kidding, we are using Wifi upstairs from our router, and the presenter was on the same floor. Thank you!
Liron: please what app for iPhone for Wi-Fi analyzer do you recommend, Tj
Really informative video but, I don’t have a signal strength meter. Is there an app for my iPhone that will give me signal strength measurements so I can test my router? Thanks for any suggestions.
Hmmm I don't have an iPhone but I believe something like Fing or WiFi Analyzer or Airport Utility can show that? Will look for options too
It's really straight to the point
thats what I am going for - give an answer in the shortest time that is semi-entertaining and educating without all the fluff😂
I don't always get it right, but trying. Appreciate you hanging out here!
Previous place i lived....... router downstairs and 2 antennas, with both antennas verticle almost no signal from my bedroom upstairs, with one antenna 45 deg horizontal much better signal from bedroom. Definitely makes a difference....... Also used a longer telephone cable so the router can be repositioned and then test for the best performance...... Its all trial and error
I used to have router in upstairs, it reached the whole of the house including downstairs. Now I have it downstairs it only reaches a few rooms away and barely upstairs, I have to use a signal repeater to give my upstairs wifi internet. Not a massive deal but it does show height helps propagate the signal further and if you only have a router with no repeater then any extra height you can give it will make a big difference.
thanks love your vidios dude
appreciate you !
Whats that song that plays at around 1:10 and so on?
It doesn't matter what I think about my router antenna, my cat disagrees.
It's amazing how they instantly become an object of fascination for cats the moment you adjust them.
Which app u used?
What is the name of the app for testing the wifi signal strength?
Good information thanks🌹
Thanks for being here
I’m experiencing constant stuttering issues in games on my PlayStation while having a low ping and high speeds. Can’t find any fixes, let alone find many people experiencing the same issues.
Do you have a video about if how will i know if the antennas are really working on the router. It's like i have a plug and play internet connection from a Telecom Company however doesn't have an antenna inclusion when i purchase a plan and they didn't tell me. So i decided to buy 4 antennas because it has 4 slots of it. Before the signal is 1bar on 4G LTE but when i put the 4 antennas, still the same at 1bar. And also i learned to make a different position on the antenna thanks to your video. No matter how troubleshoot it even if i put it on outside, still at 1bar. How will i know if its really working or not? Do you have a video about it? I'll be appreciate it 😊
it probably reaches out furthur with the antennas on it. prob won't make a difference standing right next to it. i bought some high gain antennas from a respected company on ebay for an 802.11g router years ago and they did boost the reach of the router. i also bought one for the desktop computer that's at an opposite end of the house on a different floor
2 vertical and 2 horizontal is the solution for me... i have 92 mbits instead of my usual 70 to 80
NICE! mine was 2 horizontal and 2 at 45 degrees. It all varies based on layout - but glad you found a nice solution for you!
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Liron Segev awesome thanks for replying
What’s the WiFi analyzer your using as I’ve tried a few off App Store but all been rubbish :(
Try using Fing or WiFi Analyzer or Airport Utility in iOS
Liron Segev thank you, will give those a go :)
I just played around with the antennas and did speed tests on my pc, I went from 70mbps to 80mbps
Thanks Boss
Anytime!
Dude can you test 5dbi and 9dbi external antenna
okay i love the intro music hahaha
what about if you have router in upstairs room? would having them in 45 degrees or some random positions give a wider coverage area?
or mayber 3 tilted 1 vertical
Gotta experiment and see what combination works for you.
Hi you done a vid on ex80000 netgear yuou said it can get good speeds i cant get it
Hey I have 2 antena router so will the maths remain the same?
but were the positions on different levels? Horizontal changes the direction. So if something is upstairs or downstairs then some degree of horizontal would reach upstairs better. Ideall all things are on the same level, but my wifi extender is upstairs.
name of app used ?
great tips...but please adjust your segway animation volume lower...I about dropped my drink!
Any chance of posting a link to that WiFi analyzer app?
Just called wifi Analyzer in the Google Play Store. It's free too
Does this also apply to Routers with two antennas
Yes
my router have a dual antennae the best position for both are in between horizontal and vertical pointed where all stationary wireless devices are actually located
how about if 2 antennas should i do combination,vertical or horizontal
try it and see what works for you - let us know which one did!
Liron Segev thank u sir
What is that wifi analyzer?
What is the app you are using on your phone??
Just a wifi analyzer from the Google store. There are plenty there
I never understood how the antenna are best positioned… but then a lot of the newer high end routers from ASUS and Google etc they don’t even have antenna
What is that app called
I have the TP link 1750 ac but I am only getting 1000 sq ft can someone help
Is it ok if you point it downwards instead of horizontal?
Of course!
as for gamers, PING parameter is also very important. i wonder also, what is the best position for the receiver antenna to be
Gaming should be hard wired!
What is that you use to measure the speed of wifi?
which wifi analyzer are you using on your phone?
just called wifi analyzer from the Google Play Store
@@LironSegev thanks Liron. I appreciate it.
Now do another test where you do it by incrementing it(antennae angle) via 5 degrees each test.
You missed the point of the video🤔
@@LironSegev also should try various phone orientations at each point.
The addendum would be to...uh...let's say go up or downstairs. You know, like an actual house and not a ranch house.
@@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO i also wanted to know if you have the router in an upstairs room like at my house that 45 degrees would give an optimal coverage area and maybe keep one vertical to boost 2nd floor speeds on a 4+ antenna router. especially if you have a big yard. well thats the way i have mine setup but would still be nice to see the measurements with that meter.
@@XX-121 The thing is.....I'd do full mesh if I really wanted to go all out. I have a decently expensive router and a pretty big house. It actually reaches throughout the entire house besides a rear fireplace room that was built on extra and is one floor up and way on the back of the house. 1) I knowingly moronic on my part, keep the router all the way downstairs because most of the wifi/bandwidth usage is down on the lower levels and it requires a faster speed. 2) The connection cable is direct connected into a gaming room with another separatededicated cable run to another part of the house. (Sad) 3) For some Reason my 5G signal goes just as far as my regular wider signal in this house. (They couldn't explain it either) and 4) My antennas are both places at about a 35 degree angle opposite each other to cover most of that fireplace room and the very top of the house. 5) I really don't want a powerful router or cordless phone 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz near my or anyone's head whilst they are sleeping or in their bedrooms. It's enough that they we are constantly bombarded.
So, the short answer is stupidly downstairs and both at a 45 degree angle to cover about 98% of a large house. (This router covers) I do have a lot extender if it is necessary but, now the fireplace room TV is covered. (Maybe the two corners around covered) The back deck and further in the backyard is covered as well. I tried it at different angles. The coverage maybe differed by 5 to 10 feet. Just angle the antennas at where you want to cover. The same floor isn't necessary because it's the closest with the least impediments.
What if my router has no antennas? Am I sentenced to poor signal?
What is that app
didnt tell me where to point the ariels on a computer
what does link speed mean?
great question - thats the speed I get from my device to the router. The slower the link then the slower the Internet would be.
Nc thx
you got it!
Please tell me Wi-Fi software analyser name..?
just called WiFi Analyzer in the Google Play Store
What about 45 degrees?
I use ethernet, and my ethernet is capped at 11 mpbs? Is my ethernet broken or is that max what my pc can use? Please help
hmmm seems slow, but not sure its a PC thing. This might help to troubleshoot your network: czcams.com/video/fkmY1gM5a6I/video.html
Most likely the ethernet driver in your computer only can transmit data at that maximum speed.
Your eyes look so scary with that light reflecting in them
My wifi hangs on the wall, how should I?
Lol wow I never actually tried this lol ok thank u
its fun to do and really useful
Liron Segev we will definitely try cause we getting real bad reception here lately
I am not tech savvy, but trying to learn, all the time. I don't see an antenna on the router & it's all 1 piece. It's a Comcast Xfinity router. Is there anything that you can tell me about this. My eyesight is very bad. Ty in advance. Take care
🙂🧢👍
bad and my retention is poor. Please let me know. Ty in advance. 🙂🧢🐧🦋🌷
Not every router has external antennas. So yours might be internal
Wont this change if i use my wifi on multiple floors?
yes
@@LironSegev I saw that the the antenna broadcasts the signal stronger around the circumference. So i guess to increase signal on the upper floor.. i should keep a antenna sideways and others vertical
Simple: The signal strength is strongest in the perpendicular plane around an Antenna. The signal is strongest closest to the wi-fi router. Place your router as centrally as possible for fastest wi-fi over largest area. For orientation tweak of Antennas, simply establish the furthest point from your wif-fi router and run speed tests from there. You will likely find that the furthest point in a two story home is in a top or bottom corner of the building furthest from the router. Tilt all antennas slightly so that the radiation pattern catches this furthest corner - just as you would hold a bow if shooting an arrow from the router to the furthest point with weakest signal. If you tilt too much then signal level will drop off on the floor where the router sits - so balance the competing requirements giving priority to where you need the best signal speed. For wi-fi all on one level point all antennas vertically.
So having all 6 antennas up won’t make me lag in games?My pc is hardwired to my router there’s only 1 sometimes 2 people connected?
You have to experiment and see which is best for your setup.
If you're running an ethernet to your pc then none of this matters....
What app is that
just a WiFi Analyzer in the Google Play store - there are loads of them
Liron Segev thanks
You were measuring only with device placed on table. The orientation of the device also matters. This was not a best designed test.
The Point of this was to test if the position of the antenna has an impact or not. Sorry you didn't understand
Ok. I understand the topic is quite broad and complex. Not something that 5 minutes video for beginners can explain.
Although i think the test could be done better, the video stop has good value i think.
So, the answer to which way to point your antennas is find out yourself, it depends? I wish google didnt suggest you tube videos when I just want an answer
Just curious how exactly would they work? Google would need to know your house layout, your make of router, your country, all your devices...then you would complain Google knows too much🙄
@@LironSegev I mean I wish instead of suggesting videos, I wish it said it depends. It does actually do that, it just suggests videos first. The best answer I found was the signal is directed where you point them. I thought it would be more like radiating rather than pointing.
@@LironSegev I would complain that Google knows too much, you got me there.
What's the point of all the experiments if you can't even come to a conclusion 🙄
The question still remains unanswered. Which way to point the antennas
Sooooo.. Let's break it down a bit:
Conclusion: Test it yourself.
Now that's Hilarious! :'D
I'm sorry if it looks like I'm being toxic here, I'm really not trying to be!
But I got to say that, USUALLY when an item has some kind of adjustable function, there is, very simply, a purpose to that function.
So to put that in another way: OF COURSE there is a difference to put your antennas in different angles! That would only be pure logical thinking.
Which brings me back to the purpose of this particular video, to show WHICH angle to adjust them to.
Answer: by not even linking to the app being used for testing the signal, you now have the knowledge and tool you need to TEST IT YOURSELF!
Hilarious!
Wait I have both🤔😂
Negative 20 ... what?
Antennas are movable so that the router can fit in the box...
😂
@@LironSegev now that i have your attention, can you maybe point me in the direction of one of your videos? My issue, i have a mid range wifi6 router, a 500/50 line, on ethernet i get 450-500 down... but wifi on 2.4 only 70 down max even next to router and 170 down on 5ghz.... have changed channels etc etc... and nothing, router specs state that 2.4 max is 720mbs and 5ghz max is 2gbs... any ideas?... oh and everything in the network is capable of wifi 6
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Isn't it this working???🤔🤔🤔😘
Eh.... What?
Just upgrade yuh intranet.
yip. give the ISP more money. When they slow you down again - give them more. Brilliant strategy....for them. No thanks.
I got a tip for you, don't waste our time with a video that ends with "but really in the end its all about your rooter location" and then not bother to explain what that means.
It's OK if you didn't understand. Big words are hard. 🙄
Keep your router in the most central position in your house, easy.
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Lol mine is 14dBm lol
You talk funny. You must be in Yurp.
So you don't know. Got it.