For years I always thought the zeter crystal was the ugly duckling of the tractor world.....now I think it's has a lovely shade and a classic look...making good progress Cian...
I remember fitting the modified gear box back in my ursus in 1995 we got it running and took it for a spin still with no floor or seat and my friend following in the van closely watching the speedo needle hit 40k in the dark
Nice one Cian, the jigsaw is starting to take shape, you make it look easy as you put the shaft in the box, not your first time be the looks of it😂 Well done, interesting stuff to watch.
Well Done Cian....... sounds so frustrating..... FairPlay for sticking with it!!! Ah were do you get some of your parts..... any locally?? And unreal joke at the end there although your not Irish subscribes may not get it.....🤔😉😂
Great job! You should be able to call yourself a GearHead now :P Greets from Sweden! Have a 8011 I was thinking about making 40k of for years. I think its 25-ish today. So slow on road that cyclist passes you.
That nut and locking tab washer will just be pre loading the shaft and bearings so you just want the slop out it bit not binding, same idea as a wheel bearing
Your doing mighty work lad have 4 crystals meself 2 8011 I c385 and a 12045 , what website did you get your bits off? Besta luck with her she be some baby when done 💪💪
Informative with banter 😅 seemingly lads have fitted ford 7810 wet brakes to the backend of the crystal. Have to plug hole up but I'd still leave in the seal to preventing cross contamination far better system and morereliable !!! Only reason I'm saying this is the friction material on the brake disk from after market zetor parts fade like mad. Depends what your going to use it for. Use to draw sugar beet to carlow with a 14145 😂😂 trailer breaks system is fairly handy with 20t+ load behind 🙄other wise you're going to be stopping in the next county !!!! Also dont use the springs from zetor in the brake system the tend to snap.one's off a 188 massey should fit if I remember correctly 😅 So basically what I'm saying is modify the the shit out of her and make it a front line animal 😂😂you seem to be more than capable!!! Anyway great job keep up the good work
Good progress indeed. I'm keen on your project...watching eagerly. I have a 12245 with 25kph box. Where did you source your gears and do you mind sharing part numbers?
Jaysus lad you're no daw!! If l made a stab at that there'd be plenty of spare parts l'll tell u that!! Plenty of dolla to be spent before you get to the"sexy" stuff!! You've "served your time" somewhere anyways that's for sure. It's not the kind of restoration you do after a chat with the lads over a few cans! Keep her lit. Very enjoyable watch👍👌🇮🇪
Cheers, these tractors are underrated and I can only see prices increasing as there is alot of nostalgia with the brand. Alot of agri contractors got established around the munster area using Crystal's as early workhorses.
Do you have a workshop manual?, can be handy for torque settings, exploded diagrams of assemblies etc.., I think I have some zetor ones in a filing cabinet at home,
Good advise there with the work shop manual. Theres no problem doing it yourself as long as you've the same information (torque spec's mainly in this case) that the rebuilders/mechanics have. You've laid it out and are refitting the parts in the same order (bar the upgrades) that they came out so the diagram, while extremely useful, would not be 100% essential. Where the manual would come into play though would be orientation of washers for instance. Some might be flat on one side and conical on the other. I don't know what's inside of this is like but if your replacing the same as your taking out there shouldn't be a problem. Torque specs for the "hand tight" nut in this case especially could be the difference in the box lasting or chewing itself down the road. There is a torque spec for that nut and I bet it can be found. Hopefully your viewers can help. It may potentially save a lot of heart ache if you could find it. It's a balls about that bar having to be cut out but it is what it is. Nothing worse than piecing it together having to find you've to cut it out 😅. How does the other one fit in if this has to be cut out? I'm not sure what kind of time it took to get it to that stage but be sure cutting it is the last option and if it is then a large magnet would help retrieve the filings from whatever protective cover you put over the gears before cutting the bar. Good job. Best of luck with it! 😃
@@BackyardMechCon even if I knew the torque spec for that nut its not a normal hex nut so I would have no way of using a torque wrench on it 😥 not sure what the name of the but is you probably can't see it too well in the vid. The selector shaft I cut would usually just slide out but there was a big lump of weld on it so it wouldn't fit through the hole, I dunno if you watch my previous vids but those shafts have a hole in them and they break where the hole is so instead of taking out the gearbox to replace the broken shaft guys just welded the shaft back together in place. I got new shafts for an older model that didnt have the hole in them so they won't break 👌
@@CianKenneallyFair enough, thanks for the reply, I did look through them alright but the only part I picked up that needed or had welding was the main casting. Thanks for setting that straight 👍. It can be hard to go over old ground with new viewers 😅. That nut is probably a "special tool" type deal. I'm not too sure what the profile of it is but I'm sure you could tack weld a socket to a lump of metal that matches the profile of the nut (you'll have to make it) and stick the torque wrench into the back of the nut... (I'm not too sure how proficient you are with a welder or grinder though). With all these things sometimes it can be better to throw caution to the wind and drive on. Looking forward to seeing the progress! Best of luck 😃.
Hola , tengo un zetor cristal 12145 y me interesa comprar los engranajes para hacer la modificación a la caja de velocidad , donde se pueden comprar y el código de los engranajes , le estaria muy agradecido por la información 😊
If youre looking for parts I know an ex zetor dealer that is no longer in business but still has a massive stock of unavailable parts and specific zetor tools..Ill pass on details if you want
Do you have to worry about shims and stuff like that, all the books will tell you about excessive back-lash and engineers blue on gear teeth. I hope it’s not noisy when it’s back together.
Need u back at this ...one lad
Ya can’t have a dirty box can ya 🤣
For years I always thought the zeter crystal was the ugly duckling of the tractor world.....now I think it's has a lovely shade and a classic look...making good progress Cian...
We had a 8111 here when I was small and a 9540 still here since new (1997) bit I always want my own 6 cyl 4wd crystal 😍
@@CianKenneally my uncle made an 8011 into a 4x4 back in the day
Keep the videos coming brother there some craic 👍👌
Good video lad keep it up 💪
Great clips, lots of people will be interested in how to do the 40k conversion! Clean your box before next week lol
I remember fitting the modified gear box back in my ursus in 1995 we got it running and took it for a spin still with no floor or seat and my friend following in the van closely watching the speedo needle hit 40k in the dark
Claetus Woodroofe what model of ursus do you have and how did you convert it
@@or5ghgu120 I only swapped the box I don’t know what was done inside it was a 385
Where did you find the gearbox, is there a special website or something?
We see here coming up lane someday with blower trailer doing deliveries no stopping her be a beast of a tractor 😂
Nice video!!
Nice one Cian, the jigsaw is starting to take shape, you make it look easy as you put the shaft in the box, not your first time be the looks of it😂
Well done, interesting stuff to watch.
Not the kinda box I'd usually be rooting at on a Saturday night 😂😂
Ud never have known he was a zettor mechanic in a previous life 🤭🙈
Well Done Cian....... sounds so frustrating..... FairPlay for sticking with it!!! Ah were do you get some of your parts..... any locally?? And unreal joke at the end there although your not Irish subscribes may not get it.....🤔😉😂
Great job! You should be able to call yourself a GearHead now :P Greets from Sweden! Have a 8011 I was thinking about making 40k of for years. I think its 25-ish today. So slow on road that cyclist passes you.
fair play to you, she will be some machine when she is ready!! When do you expect to have her complete?
Hopefully before the summer anyway 😳
That nut and locking tab washer will just be pre loading the shaft and bearings so you just want the slop out it bit not binding, same idea as a wheel bearing
Ah yes I thought as much 👌
Great video I heard you mentioning kill agri my uncle works there.
What is your uncles name
Your doing mighty work lad have 4 crystals meself 2 8011 I c385 and a 12045 , what website did you get your bits off? Besta luck with her she be some baby when done 💪💪
Good job I’m enjoying your videos while trucking in the USA I have two 1977 8011 here
Is there many zetors in the US?
@@CianKenneally yes I’ve come across a lot from 1995 to brand new
@@GL-go4gu nice! What state are you in?
@@CianKenneally New York
There’s a good few Irish tractors around here
Informative with banter 😅 seemingly lads have fitted ford 7810 wet brakes to the backend of the crystal. Have to plug hole up but I'd still leave in the seal to preventing cross contamination far better system and morereliable !!! Only reason I'm saying this is the friction material on the brake disk from after market zetor parts fade like mad. Depends what your going to use it for. Use to draw sugar beet to carlow with a 14145 😂😂 trailer breaks system is fairly handy with 20t+ load behind 🙄other wise you're going to be stopping in the next county !!!!
Also dont use the springs from zetor in the brake system the tend to snap.one's off a 188 massey should fit if I remember correctly 😅
So basically what I'm saying is modify the the shit out of her and make it a front line animal 😂😂you seem to be more than capable!!! Anyway great job keep up the good work
Good progress indeed. I'm keen on your project...watching eagerly. I have a 12245 with 25kph box. Where did you source your gears and do you mind sharing part numbers?
If you find me on Facebook or Instagram (cian560) send me private message and I can send you pics of labels with part numbers
Cian where did you buy the gears and shafts for modification?
How long did it take you to pull out the old gears and out in the new ones
This is normal protip in Poland where are you Bay this parts ?
korurs ;)
Are u goin to spray ur gearbox lad,ur doin some job keep it up👍
Think I might get chassis sandblasted and painted ya
Jaysus lad you're no daw!!
If l made a stab at that there'd be plenty of spare parts l'll tell u that!! Plenty of dolla to be spent before you get to the"sexy" stuff!!
You've "served your time" somewhere anyways that's for sure. It's not the kind of restoration you do after a chat with the lads over a few cans!
Keep her lit. Very enjoyable watch👍👌🇮🇪
Sound lad! Ya I served my time on the spanners but gave it up nd went driving lorries as soon as I got qualified 😳
Could this be done on the smaller zetors ?
Hi Cian, did you have to grind out the casing of the box to suit the uprated gears. Also did you buy the parts local.
No I didnt but apparently you do for some of them 🤷♂️ Bought them from a lad in Denmark that I found on a zetor Facebook group
Cheers, these tractors are underrated and I can only see prices increasing as there is alot of nostalgia with the brand. Alot of agri contractors got established around the munster area using Crystal's as early workhorses.
Can this be done with the smaller zetors (5611)?
Anything happening with the zetor these days, Tis gone very quiet, did yourself and Marty fall out or what?
Do you have a workshop manual?, can be handy for torque settings, exploded diagrams of assemblies etc.., I think I have some zetor ones in a filing cabinet at home,
Ya I bought one but haven't needed to use it much thank god, kinda hard to understand too cos its originally Czech then poorly translated to English
Good advise there with the work shop manual.
Theres no problem doing it yourself as long as you've the same information (torque spec's mainly in this case) that the rebuilders/mechanics have.
You've laid it out and are refitting the parts in the same order (bar the upgrades) that they came out so the diagram, while extremely useful, would not be 100% essential. Where the manual would come into play though would be orientation of washers for instance. Some might be flat on one side and conical on the other. I don't know what's inside of this is like but if your replacing the same as your taking out there shouldn't be a problem.
Torque specs for the "hand tight" nut in this case especially could be the difference in the box lasting or chewing itself down the road.
There is a torque spec for that nut and I bet it can be found. Hopefully your viewers can help. It may potentially save a lot of heart ache if you could find it.
It's a balls about that bar having to be cut out but it is what it is. Nothing worse than piecing it together having to find you've to cut it out 😅. How does the other one fit in if this has to be cut out?
I'm not sure what kind of time it took to get it to that stage but be sure cutting it is the last option and if it is then a large magnet would help retrieve the filings from whatever protective cover you put over the gears before cutting the bar.
Good job. Best of luck with it! 😃
@@BackyardMechCon even if I knew the torque spec for that nut its not a normal hex nut so I would have no way of using a torque wrench on it 😥 not sure what the name of the but is you probably can't see it too well in the vid. The selector shaft I cut would usually just slide out but there was a big lump of weld on it so it wouldn't fit through the hole, I dunno if you watch my previous vids but those shafts have a hole in them and they break where the hole is so instead of taking out the gearbox to replace the broken shaft guys just welded the shaft back together in place. I got new shafts for an older model that didnt have the hole in them so they won't break 👌
@@CianKenneallyFair enough, thanks for the reply, I did look through them alright but the only part I picked up that needed or had welding was the main casting. Thanks for setting that straight 👍. It can be hard to go over old ground with new viewers 😅.
That nut is probably a "special tool" type deal. I'm not too sure what the profile of it is but I'm sure you could tack weld a socket to a lump of metal that matches the profile of the nut (you'll have to make it) and stick the torque wrench into the back of the nut... (I'm not too sure how proficient you are with a welder or grinder though).
With all these things sometimes it can be better to throw caution to the wind and drive on. Looking forward to seeing the progress!
Best of luck 😃.
Great video , where did ya get your experience as a mechanic? A dirty box is no good 😂
you talk some shite lad
@@casefarmgirl2279 hes right
Hola , tengo un zetor cristal 12145 y me interesa comprar los engranajes para hacer la modificación a la caja de velocidad , donde se pueden comprar y el código de los engranajes , le estaria muy agradecido por la información 😊
How's the Zetor project going nowadays?
0:15 Korurs Warszawa.
Where do u get all the bits
I got them from a lad in Denmark
R u going re-spraying it
Ya may aswell now at this rate
If youre looking for parts I know an ex zetor dealer that is no longer in business but still has a massive stock of unavailable parts and specific zetor tools..Ill pass on details if you want
Yes please, you can dm me on Instagram if you like 🤩
@@CianKenneally Carrolls Engineering in Ardee Co. Louth Ask for Jim .
Fair play your wasting your time driving a truck 👍
Where are u from?
Ireland
U really need to know what ur doing, i leave it to experts
Do you have to worry about shims and stuff like that, all the books will tell you about excessive back-lash and engineers blue on gear teeth. I hope it’s not noisy when it’s back together.
No nothing like that, I think its only in the differential that you'd have to worry about that stuff thats why I wouldn't go near the diff 😅
Be careful with front shaft shims behind caster nut to set clearance with new shaft if stuck I have dealers workshop manual