I CANNOT Win a Single Game of Warhammer 40k
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I am so terrible at this game and I am incapable of learning. I'm so bad it is almost worth it for me to go and buy an entire new army to fit around me rather than me trying to fit around an army because I am so awful at playing 40k that I am at my wit's end.
Turns out that if you just go completely all out in turn 1 you just lose. But that dopamine from that first turn...I can't get enough...just one more try it'll work out this time I promise!
I'm not addicted...
0:00 After 2 years you'd think I'd have improved...
0:18 Look through the backlog
0:57 The games I've won (not because I'm good lmao)
1:49 What is wrong with me?!
2:22 Game 1 - Screaming Ravens vs Astra Millitarum
3:15 I hate you, Steve...
3:37 This is where I post cringe
4:08 End of Turn 1
4:23 Just a reminder of the mission objectives
4:47 Why, Past Paul, why?!
5:16 AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
6:26 I should read my datacards more carefully...
6:46 Assault Centurions do well because I simply cannot fail with them!
7:00 No way...I couldn't possibly be this bad...
8:04 Maybe next game I'll win!
8:19 Nevermind...
8:44 Please tell me I'm not alone...
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Deltarune - Chaos King
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Dark Souls III - Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - Final Bowser
Curb Your Enthusiasm
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Ah bugger. As someone has pointed out that isn't a Baneblade it's a Rogal Dorn but the point still stands I am an idiot
I’m just gonna suggest something
The entire first company, is centurions
Because their the only ones in the chapter who don’t think short term
Something that helps me a lot is writing a list of objectives I attempt to achieve during a game and what turn it happens
Also another minor quibble, the Deathkorp Marshall isn't legends, it's Imperial Armor, so it's still fully legal tournie wise, it's just in a seperate index to the regular units...because of course it is.
If anything theyre making themselves sound more like a nerd bro, stay positive
If anything, it just cements the fact.
Paul is me. Me is Paul. We are One.
*Fire and Flame, We are Paul*
Hi, I'm Paul.
We are alpharius
So everyone else is getting kicked in the nuts by life too? Just wish I could say screw it all.
@@cabellism don't say screw it all.... be one with Paul.
I feel like paul is losing his marbles with every battle he does, and at some point he goes full ork mode and and just starts running around the place like a gorilla
There will be a critical mass where Paul shall eventually win a game through sheer waaagh energy.
youre losing games because your models are not painted
World Eaters? World Eaters.
If anything I could see the Screaming Ravens falling to Khorne with this kind of play.
They now scream for the blood god. No stealth only the enemies wishing not to be found.
@@cameronkelly8469i guess most of the blood Screaming Ravens get for khorne is from bleeding ears of enemies
Too bad Chaos is absolute garbage right now. Even Death Guard got power crept out of relevancy.
That would be a cool lore for a personal army. Lose so much you get angry and fall to Khorne
@@liamalmond1914
And it's a self-reinforcing fall. Right now, on the tabletop Chaos is very much in a bad way, and Khorne has none of the handful of benefits that make the other three salvageable. So they'd keep losing, and they'd keep getting angrier, and they'd keep becoming more dedicated to Khorne, causing them to lose even more and continue the cycle. Lore and gameplay going hand-in-hand together.
The clear answer is buy a new shiny model and not changing tactics whatsoever this is in no way responsible for me losing the last 6 games and spiraling further in debt
Hmmm so this is the answer the definition of insanity. Lol
@@Blu_Moon_Owl now just because the maulerfiend died due to my inexperience commanding it in the 7th game which ended up losing me the game as it was the anchor for the whole left flank doesn’t mean that this idea is flawed at all these new chaos spawn will totally turn everything around
@@theholyemu3716 I mean I don’t even play the tabletop Warhammer game so you beat me in that. I believe in you to succeed on your next game
@@Blu_Moon_Owlthank you for your faith in my abilities I do apologize for my bird themed list isn’t very good but I will do my best
You jest, but nine times out of ten, that actually is the solution, sadly. Games Workshop intentionally misbalances this game to sell models.
Play Orks. Forwards pressure IS Orks gameplay philosophy. They'll suit what you clearly instinctively want to do better.
Or World Eaters…
I remember going a full year without a win back when I started out and didn't have much of an army. You keep telling yourself you're just there to have fun but it does in fact get very depressing, especially when you go through a significant hassle dragging all your stuff to the club to play.
I haven't won a game since 8th edition...
Especially when you have honorfull oponents that point out important rules for you that help you and you loose non the less because you are just stupid.
I mean, youre right, you should play Orks. And I can only recomend them, theyre SUPER fun to kitbash and play
Tbh i think noone else has as much fun with 40k as Orks players. And i don't even play them, but boi have i thought about it.
even then throwing your models at the enemy turn 1 is asking to lose
*except v t'au
"Throwing your models at the enemy" you fool why do you think I play orks, it's not to win, if I wanted to do that I would have picked a different army that day.
When the boyz are on the table I go deeply feral and I just charge my opponent, am I going to lose? Yes. Am I going to have a blast as we both mow each other down in melee? Also yes. All my models better have been in my travel case by turn 5 or I did not do something right.
Putting Magnus in my contageon range so early was very nice of you.
And that’s why I prefer Kill Team! Only one of your models goes before your opponent goes with their first model, so if you fail your first action horribly you can recover.
All his losses seams to be due to bad tactical decisions or lacking in rules knowledge. Also I have played several KT matches decided by one bad early activation.
This was an *amazing* video! The editing and scripting were both on-POINT with this one!!! As for mistakes I commonly make, it's hard to say because I primarily play Age of Sigmar, but usually one of my biggest mistakes is me crawling so deeply into my own brain trying to plan out the best move that it gives me a bit of analysis paralysis. I might forget which spells to cast or which units to move at what times. Stuff like that. But not going to lie here Paul, I think you'd *LOVE* Age of Sigmar's Ironjawz army. Their whole thing is just getting in their enemy's face turn 1 for some good old Krumpin'. That or maybe Blades of Khorne, hut with the way that army plays right now, you *do* need to use your brain to manage all their movement tech and combat tricks. Or just play a Slower army like Fyreslayers. There's no way you'll overextend for early fights when 90% of your army moves 4" at base.
Man I feel you! I specifically play world eaters because they don’t penalize you for just rushing straight into the middle of the board. They have a stratagem for sticky objectives too so I just cap the points and bog up the entire enemy team in their side of the board. Super fun army to play if you can’t resist charging into combat.
World Eaters are the true turn-brain-off full steam ahead until the enemy are in hitting range faction.
@@jazzy4830 no not really... deployment is SUPER important for world eaters. Cause deploy too aggersive and you get shot tons and die. deploy to cagy though and now you are charging turn one and sometimes turn two. You need to predict your units paths alot with world eaters.
@@awsomepokemon1060 Think while deploying, then turn brain off and run at the enemy.
@@awsomepokemon1060 Nah, always deploy aggressively, Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, and you are going to have to cross that gap eventually. Sticky objective control supports this. You have excellent boosts to move and charge making it easy to get into melee blindingly fast and that also serves to protect you from shooting. The main situation that could cause this to fail is a combination of a long board and fighting a very long range army. But any armies built around close fighting or with generally shorter range weapons, even with a long board they will have to move towards you to maximise their firepower, and are unlikely to do catastrophic damage turn one, and now that they have moved even closer to you, guess what? Easier charge. This goes double for less competitive home games.
@@jazzy4830 excuse me what charge benefits? there is only 2 dudes that make charges easier. that being angron (aura giving +1 to charge) and lord on juggernaut who you can re-roll charge for free when he is leading stuff. and let me say if you arnt careful all your good stuff can get shredded before you make it to combat even if its a small board. (i have lost my helbrute and defiler this way several times)
I find the timeline of a game and how often you actually get to play it impacts how quickly you get better at it, like a game takes a couple hours, for me at least, if you brutally lose in turn 4 but the mistakes were potentially made in turn 1/2 then that could genuinely be an hour between the mistake being made and the outcome of that mistake so even if you are of a mindset of looking at what you did wrong and trying to avoid doing it again then you might not be able to recall the causal relationship there.
Similarly if you only get to play one game of it, maybe 2 at a push in a session that takes up a decent chunk of a day and only get those in once or twice a month (this seems like a high estimate considering how often my friend group have not played and what I hear people play on average), chances are you aren't getting to put into practice what you're learning for quite a while and you'll probably make equally bad but different mistakes as well.
Whereas you compare that to most other things you start out bad at and then get better at, like cooking, videogames, learning a song, a new thing at work, usually the feedback is immediate and obvious, you've boned up, the food tastes bad/burns. you died in the videogame, go back to a checkpoint and try again, that chord sounded awful, etc and if you want, you can straight away redo it and try it again, implement what you know now and improve. Bit tougher with Warhammer and a normal life/schedule.
I wrote this long comment before watching the full video, in the fullness of time it does just seem like you need to remember not do that thing you seemingly do every game to your great dismay.
Have you considered reading the art of war? The perfect text to help piss poor generals it even helped me turn my losing record into a tied one 😁
‘99% of aggressive Turn-1 chargers quite right before making it big. Go on, what’s the worst that can happen’
-Sun Tzu,
The Wart of Awe
Art of Waaagh
"If you think you are gonna lose, don't do that thing." "Your enemy being having their plans ruined is much better than the opposite"
"Over extended too early, out of position, died." He's just like me fr
I feel like you'd benefit from playing Knights. Can't really overextend your 5 guys, especially considering you WANT them separated.
The mistake i keep making is thinking i have time to play wargames when no, i really don't. :(
Literally me. Even worse when I'm playing Tau and basically offer myself to get melee'd
I cope by at least knowing that my army is fully painted and better looking than the other guy, their mental state will be in shambles any day now
This was great fun to watch, thanks! Incredible editting and sound tekkers!
I feel your pain man just be glad to haven’t got to worry about doc visits injury rolls or losing rep
Been playing for almost a year now and have 20 games under my belt. I have lost every single game so far
There with you. I won once, but with only 1500pts.
As an Ork player, overextenting is just imperium propaganda
This editing on this video is another level of funny 😂😂 I am dying
So glad I subscribed to your channel, I love that the videos you put out aren't just focused on one thing like painting or battle reports, but rather just your hobby journey in general so we get all of the things that the hobby has to offer. As far as "fixing" your problem, at first I thought the same as you, World Eaters and Orks would be great for you. However I think what would actually benefit you in the long run is playing a couple of games with T'au. As counterintuitive as it may seem, with T'au, especially in the Kauyon detachment, the name of the game is the opposite of advancing into your opponents deployment zone turn one. I think if you played a couple of games of T'au you might be able to expand your mindset when it comes to playing the game in general so when you play your favorite armies you can see the different avenues you can take for your battle strategy throughout the game.
Cheers mate, keep up the great work!
That's a really smart tip.
I feel this so much rofl. This was me ALL DAY yesterday with my Chaos Space Marines.
Wow i just found your Channel today i watched 3 of your videos on the screaming ravens and now you do another upload that’s cool
Love the Golden Sun combat music around 2:00. Anyway, I used to be the same way with my Admech. I used to just sit back and shoot everything, not even trying to capture objectives. Once 10th edition hit and I started to play Tyranids, I understood that capturing objectives was I dunno A MAJOR PART OF PLAYING THE GAME. It took me a whole different playstyle to start learning. But in the end, it doesn't matter if you win or lose. Just as long as you had fun. Keep playin man. It's a good hobby
Paul, take solace in that there are some great things coming from your experience -- you're learning a tiny bit every time, whether you know it or not, and you CLEARLY seem to enjoy making these videos that definitely are entertaining, and lastly, I am SURE you are fantastic at building up the confidence of your opponents.
It sounds like you should be playing Orks or World Eaters. Their entire playstyle is "time to get into melee and not think for 3 turns"
One thing I started doing that really improved my gameplay is to ALWAYS think what my opponent want to do. If I only focus on which points I want to score or which units want to kill it will always backfire. It can be pretty hard to keep everything in mind but will totally change your approch to the game :) put COUNTER enemy's plan in your thought process!
Great vid, finally someone understands my frustration of not being able to kill a tank with infantry in melee. I honestly speed through the command phase, and I jump the gun with reserve deployments, but honestly ive been playing matchups that I cant win (IK) so that's epic as well I guess
I was _so close_ to what would have likely been my first legit, full game win. Was playing against some kid from the middle of nowhere with a cobbled together guard/space marines/something else army and had really strong field control thanks to my infiltrators.
I got called into work to cover a shift, and being short on hours that week + being a supervisor I pretty much couldn’t refuse.
Fml
I feel you man, I'm on a 120+ lost streak with my custodes and csm. I can't remember the last game i wasn't tabled by turn 3-4. I keep making the same mistakes over and over and can never break out of the "habits".
Custodes... you might have some list issues because while most of their stuff is good, some of it is too expensive for what it does. They're also forge world dependent. Don't ever take Venerable Land Raiders.
CSM... it's not your fault. Ever since 8th CSM have basically been the butt monkeys of 40k on the tabletop. Heck, loyalist firstborn marines got buffed to 2 wounds but CSM still only get 1.
I actually did this in my first game of 10th, I played Firestorm Marines and obviously in my head was get within 12" and flame everything, which kind of worked initially then I was over committed and we got onto turn 3 the T'au player got his sustained hits and I basically got tabled. Next game I played against Orks and my opponent basically did the same thing, tried his waagh on turn 1 and just didn't make enough charges and I spent the next 2 turns after that mopping him up. So it is pretty common I reckon, it's that turn 1 'I need to do something' thought, whereas actually setting things up on turn 1 for impactful turn 2 and 3 is a lot better which also works well with your reserves.
If it keeps happening maybe try Custodes? They might just survive running like mad lads across the board. But yeh that or World Eaters, or Orks, or Black templars or Blood Angels with lots of jump packs. Pretty sure Angron has like an absurd first turn threat range and if he dies he has a chance of coming back.
Turn 1 charge? Mistake? *World Eaters confused face*
I rush forward with my dreadnought turn one and keep going in turn two when it usually reaches a point. That is when I teleport in my terminators on the midpoint in front of everything where against the will of God and my opponent, they survive for the rest of the game.
My big flaw is that I love my tanks and vehicles. Whenever I’m build an army I start by throwing in my core of guardsmen, officers, artillery and other support units and then I start to put in my tanks but I quickly run out of space so I start to trim things down and suddenly at the end my nice balanced list now has 10 vehicles which have no support and get stuck in a huge traffic jam get swarmed and die. The games I do win are usually because a shooting army try’s to have a gunfight with me and they never have enough anti tank but also in those games it’s only ever 4 vehicles actually putting in work. The rest are all stuck in my deployment.
I still have that problem and I’ve been playing for 15 odd years now a big help for me has been just playing round 1&2 a shit ton it helps your movement deployment and target priorities in those very important turns
This is hilarious! And I am sure more people can relate with it, than you might expect, you at least have the guts to talk about it! :-D
Noticed those little squad plate things the IG player used
Pretty handy to keep a unit together
Love to see another update. I was thinking about the screaming ravens just before the video popped up and came up with a cool bit of lore for them. What if despite being called the screaming ravens and having Raven iconography they weren’t actually a Raven guard successor but a world eaters one. It’s not that they keep it a particular secret but people just assume they are a Raven successor and as they don’t verbally speak outside of combat they never bother to correct people. (Just checked and you can have loyalist space marines with traitor geneseed.)
Paul staying true to the name of the channel Godbless
You're not alone. I play Chaos Marines - specifically Iron Warriors because I want to be shooty Chaos. If I don't get shot off the board, I lose the melee. And then get shot off the board. Turns out power armor/terminator armor and being the "elite" evil faction doesn't actually protect you that much!
nah, get this man a world eaters army and he'll be fine
the use of The Crow soundclip @8:19 was superb
1:49 Isaacs battle theme hitting hard.
Great choice of music
Yeahh, feel that overextend, learned the hard way. Turn 1 is get into position and THEN turn 2 charge, when you can bring everything to bear.
My guy, I feel you about Tsons. I played a really nicely optimized Necrons list and got bent over the chain link. It's not an army that does well against tough armies. I managed to have good position but couldn't get anything to stick due to our lack of weight of fire.
The amount of times I have thought I have lost in the first 2 turns but then gone on to win by the end of the game.
I started the gaming side of the hobby 2.5 years ago. Lost a lot! But tried new things and I now have a 70% win rate (I use Deathwatch and Tyranids).
You can do it! Just try new things, new ways of playing. If you can play once per week even better.
If i could offer my advice on this subject, I'd say that you might actually be helped starting in the list-building phase. Putting designated "trash" units in your army that aren't there for damage, but just to score might help temper your bloodlust and score you some points. I'd also spend some time thinking about "trading", where you intentionally throw a "trash" unit or a killy unit of a cheaper points cost out onto an objective or to sacrifice itself for a kill, then wait for the opponent to move out of position and trade up. I also tell people newer to 40k, that to win a game, you really only need 3 objectives. Pick your three objectives as you deploy, and don't overcommit. Hope those help!
I play orks and my battle plan consists of forward and the "they can't score if there's no models left strat"
I surprisingly won a local hobby tournament using that strat
I would love to have a Match against Paul so that we can both be like WTF are we doing here, because i always have a good plan and SOMHOW still manage to get absolutly stomped
I’m happy to see this video, I’ve been playing with my 2k salamanders against my friends 2k death guard, since then I have not won a single game, in fact, not a single game has made it to round 5 cause I get swelled every. Single. Time.
He has 3 plague burst crawlers and no matter what I do, who I put in transports or reserves, they all eventually end up getting bombarded anyway, and that’s only the plague burst crawlers.
What’s more sad is that he has a plague marine leader that gives fights first, on a melee dedicated squad. Now this would be fine and all but any time I’ve managed to get my nearly 300pts of agressors into melee with them, or my further 400pts of blade guard plus Adrax plus lieutenant, they always lose. They lose like half their unit, don’t have the man power to fight back and die the next round, this is on my turn where I charged them. It’s sucks. I struggle to keep playing this game because now my loss streak with these two armies is 15, I have taken the hours to play 15 games and lost every single one horribly.
You need to think of it like chess plan out your moves and every possibility
Damn that's unfortunate I suck at chess lmao
‘I know you’re saying you suck at drawing owls, but you just need to draw two circles, think of it like an owl, and draw the rest of the owl’ 😅
Oh, and on a quick note- I’ve played chess, HEAPS, and was Board 1 at my high school 3 years back. I’ve been playing since I was a little gremlin. So, trust me when I say this:
Planning in 40k is NOTHING like planning in chess 🤣 and you will *actively* screw yourself over if you start treating 40k like it *is* chess. I know it seems similar on paper, but it will punish you if you try to treat it as such
@@PaulIsBadAtStuff also, commiserations for Steve’s BS dice, Paul, but that rugby tackle clip caught me off guard. Your editing has gone from strength to strength :)
You've basically sorted your own problem. You have a suited play style, so play armies that work with that. Orks and World Eaters. Orks would be especially good for you as you could do them any colour, or do the buggies the colours of the retro car game you mentioned in a previous video, it would really work.
Paul, you are a WE player at heart. "I overextend turn one and run out of steam" isn't the Ork way, the Ork way is charging down the board with dozens of models. The World Eater way is charging to the enemy deployment zone turn 1 and using Angron to mince everyone. He dies? Bring him back!
It took me over a year before winning a single game and the guy I won against I have never seen them win a single game, but hey we all gotta start somewhere
I have the uncanny ability to deepstrike Deathshroud Terminators to the most impractical and stupid parts of the map where they are left stranded, as well as playing with the kind of Typhus that is never quiet sure where to be (3 games ago he literally moved left riight up down and was on his starting position again in round 4...)...What I´m trying to say is: Try enjoying loss more, its just a game, and a fairly skewed dice dependent "how is my mind today, can I remember all the rules" one at that.
Death guard pro tip: rapid ingress for easy charges. Slightly helps with our ridiculous 4 inch move lmao.
thats basically the only way they're getting in@@tommywilliams9497
Yeah the positioning part i can relate to. Recently i did that exact thing again. Somehow i still wiped the back of his army since he came to them. I keep forgetting to not Deepstrike them to uselesss spots that may not benefit me in the long term. The best approach i use for them is that one squad deepstrikes and tries to land on an objective and the other advances and starts on the board.
PAUL IS GOOD AT STUFF
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This was beautifully animated.
I've enjoyed this video. It's quite relatable to me! I've made a lot of impulsive moves in 40k myself, thinking it's my playstyle when the army really shouldn't be used the way I'm using it. Part of it is adjusting style and the other is maybe adjusting the army list. Hope it gets better! It has to eventually, right? 😅
I know the feeling. I regularly over-commit when playing Infinity, but thankfully through the power of reaction rolls I somehow manage to pull luck out of nowhere...
That's me also bro.
In fact after playing for a few years I'm about to buy a new army purely based around my play style in the hope I'll make less mistakes.
The main issue in games I tend to struggle with is usually movement and Objectives. As a Crimson Fist (glory to Dorn) I play heavy armor infantry and Anvil Siege force. Once I get a unit into position then tend to hold it really well either with cover or plunging fire. The problem is getting them their because it takes a turn or 2 to get most of my units into position meaning at least my first turn is pretty bad because I have to move them toward objectives in the no mans land and I have to wether the storm from being somewhat in the open or closer to their charges. That being said after i hunker down I’d like to see them try to take those objectives because 10 S8 AP-3 D2 hitting on 2s re-rolling.
Love it. Hey, it's all good - this is most players. Because shooty shooty bang bang kill kill is a lot of FUN! It's just, yeah, it doesn't tend to actually win the game. Maybe for a fun game, ask someone to join you as a coach, just so they can constantly slow you down on your own turn and ask "Hey buddy, how does this move help you complete the objective? Are you sure there isn't a move that does 90% of the same thing, but makes you safe if it goes wrong?".
This hits...way too close to home.
Funny enough, I recently had the opposite problem in AoS. My Sylvaneth were going up against a Seraphon list that was oops all wizards. Lord Kroak, Slaan mage, skink starpriest, and a banner wielder with an arcane tome. My opponent (who was a great sport, by the way, this game was a lot of fun I just played terribly) was able to cast 11 spells in their hero phase, a lot of which were at like, +2 or +4 to cast, and the same for dispelling rolls. I had Alarielle and I think I got like, two spells off. The trick was his hero phase was incredibly strong, but the rest of his army was Saurus chaff that melted if my Kurnoth sneezed on them. So his strategy was to castle his heroes in a chokepoint and cast spells at me until it was safe to come out and claim objectives or get enough lizard wizard points to summon stronger units onto the field.
And I kind of just... let him do that.
I don't know what it was but I was allergic to aggression that game. He might have been holding a choke point, but for all intents and purposes, I had his entire army surrounded. Sylvaneth can teleport all over the place and I had some really good Wyldwood placements. I could have completely surrounded his army with my melee Kurnoth and slowly but surely worked my way through all of his chaff to get to the wizards in the middle, shutting down his entire game plan and keeping him off objectives entirely. Meanwhile, my Dryads and Tree Revenants could have held objectives while my Bow Kurnoth and Alarielle chipped away at the massive block of lizards with really, REALLY strong ranged attacks. But I just... didn't do that? I tried to play defensively against an army that did not care about how far away I was because the Slaan have boardwide casting, all because I was worried he was going to kill me in melee despite him saying at the beginning of the game that he really, REALLY did not want to fight me in melee because he knew he wouldn't win because, surprise surprise, the obsese frog wizards aren't great melee fighters! There were a lot of things that went wrong for me in this game. I rolled three 1s in a row on run rolls in round 1, and my dice wanted me to lose more than my opponent, but that fundamental lack of aggression when it was really needed cost me the game.
In other words, I too am a tactical moron and I need to study my games more to figure out when aggression is needed.
With loosing every time, you can make marks on banners or the armour of your warlord everytime you win in the future
Sounds like you are perfectly roleplaying your chapter.
The first few minutes of this video is how I imagine a First World War captain would of sounded like in the officers bar.
Yeah... I'm in the same boat here. I usually only get to play vs. one of my friends and I always lose, regardless of which wargame we're playing.
My friend you should join the 12th! Over extending and turn one charging is our favorite thing!
Ask your friends to play a 4th edition mission.
Several of those are as simple as "rush forward and occupy your opponent's deployment zone"
I can totally relate. I play a lot of AoS, and I’ve finally realised that I need to play armies that physically stop me from charging turn one, and then I started winning! I would say that almost 100% of all my losses come from me thinking “I should not move there just on the off chance I land a long charge”, and then something else whispers in my ears “but it would be epic if it succeeded!” 😅
For a long time in old editions my poor Eldar just… died all the time because my only plan was to go muzzle to muzzle with space marines and get hosed. Only when I learned to be tricksy did I begin to win. Once I learned the art of the Refused Flank, everything came together for me. Once I learned to deploy WIDE across the board with fast units on the ends, forcing my slower enemies to deploy wide to oppose me, I could use my superior speed to recoil my force to one side of the board and make half the enemy force slog slowly for three turns to get to play… by which time I’d have concentrated my power on the first half and be ready for them.
You are stuck trying to win the game in Turn 1. The secret is to win it *in deployment.*
Be thee encouraged, young Paul. In order to be good at things, you must be bad as them for a long time first.
It'd be cool is World Eaters had a rule that as long as they were killing stuff it counted as OC on their home objective
I think this is a wonderful video where you learn you need to start an ork army
I used to do this a lot in AoS, restraint pays big VP bucks most of the time
I keep making the mistake of rolling my dice low. Like, I roll them at critical moments, then make the mistake of rolling one's and twos. I keep making this blunder despite consciously thinking to myself "don't roll like crap" I still do.
At least you got an entertaining video out of it. 👍
I for one don't care about winning or losing at all, just let my play my favorite units and I'll be good regardless.
So my nephew used to have the same issue with his space Marines. When I suggest doing is writing down a sequence of events that you think that are realistic the first turn to happen into the second turn and then you see if you are where you thought you were and write everything out as the other player is making all of their moves
This exercise can prevent you from going bloodthirsty if applied correctly
The mistake I keep making is never bringing enough Anti-Tank. If the enemy brings any amount of tank, I have *one* squad of Hellblasters. Luckily, people only usually brings tanks and other vehicles!
6:00 to be fair, that Guard setup looks really strong. The furthest behind poin looks weak, but is good within shooting distance of all units. Shooting at the baneblade is stupid tho if you cannot blow it up within a turn.
Regarding starting an army that plays into your style: play your screaming ravens as Blood Angels.
There are bloody screaming ravens on my roof!
One of the mistakes I keep making is really leaning into the trope of the units I field, for example: I run Ravenwing, all bikes all day everyday, I faced a Salamanders player, the one thing you should never charge turn 1, I did anyway and lost everything. I could have easily sat at homefield and killed them with my plasma talons (black knight bikes have twin plasma guns) but noooope.
I'm a little late but I kind of make the opposite mistake where I place half my army into reserve and then the rest into transports so I have 2 units at the start of the game that I can drop down. Its really fun having land raiders because if they don't have serious anti tank power then most of my squishy infantry is going to be able to make it into melee and do their damage. I even sort of send them in saves, first my bladeguard then my Sword Brothers. Then I have Vanguard Vets in deep strike to come down and do mission actions or try and jam up some target. However against Tau, this plan REALLY didn't work and my Land Raider went down turn one to a storm surge and I had to kinda wing it. The game came down to the wire but I was just barely able to squeak out a win thanks to Bladeguard and Chaplin in a drop pod finding a nice corner to tie up the stormsurge and scare him lol
With how much you over extend, I would love to see how you’d do in a game of Dropzone commander. Since you’re basically rushing to get into position, if you really feeling like annoying your enemy, you could go Scourge who can travel the entire map in about 2 turns. Or you could play PHR so you know your units can at least survive one shot
I'm somewhat in the same boat, but I play an army not quite so killy, so that forces me to temper my kill all the things aggression. I main Kroot and my whole army gets a 7" scout move, then a 7" normal move and is OC2, so I basically just flood the middle board with so many surprisingly durable bodies that I can't possibly not play the objective game and just prioritize what I have to kill in the moment.
Perhaps you should consider sellin the army you enjoy the least along with some stuff from the pile of shame to start an Ork army, painting wise you wouldn't have to worry about being neat/clean, and of course the conversion/kitbash freedom the army offers, it's something to consider seeing as your struggling with the current armys you have and it's chipping away at your enjoyment for the game.
I very much feel you, I play Salamanders and I also find myself overextending in persuit of the kills, however I find it fun. So what I figured is I don't really play the missions, I play to table the opponent. With the current Firestorm detachment Salamanders punch way above their weight if you go flamer/melta all the way backed up by some Blade guard veterans with Adrax and a captain with flamer Aggressors in a Land Raider Redeemer. I really don't care if I lose the missio of the opponent has no models left on the table.
don't stress it man i play space wolves and went on a 2 year losing streak myself. I had some early success when i started in the begonning of ninth and then late ninth and early tenth i just couldn't seem to catch a break any of the matched play games that i did i lost
I feel like even the best laid plans are fully subject to the whims of the dice.
Case in point- 6” charge into Eradicators, fail it, command reroll, fail again. My possessed squad gets shot and dies the next turn, with the Eradicators and other units slowly cleaning up the rest of my army afterwards.
my issue is that i always send a few troops on little adventures like sending a transport with a squad to take a long flanking route. but the problem always is the game is over by the time they make it to where i want so they end up wasted and sometimes ive lost games because of that
I went to PAX two years in a row and both times I tried to use my necron warrior horde as a threat.
In 9th edition it worked a little for one game, because my vehicles just happened to work out as the actual threat and took down the guard vehicles.
But in 10th I just got destroyed, I took one win because we got cut short lmao. After all that I like to think I learned to make better use of hammer and anvil.
Since I started playing 40k in the 90's I've had a penchant for forgetting my units in Deep Strike. Without fail, at the end of the game, while flirting with loss or surrender, I will shout, "I completely forgot my Swooping Hawks!" because I just do. For 30 years. At this point, it's just who I am as a person.
I learned this with guard. In early early 9th. Your playing 2 armies that are reasonably able to survive. I was playing conscripts. My bone headed moves with saying fuck it closer guns means more dakka means more firepower didnt work. It worked only against orks.
I have a similar problem.
I play Imperial Guard which means of course I have a lot of infantry. I know my infantry die easily. I know they will get scythed down if they are caught on their own. I am fully aware of these things.
...And yet somehow I always find myself with squads of squishy, 1 wound 5+ save infantry standing alone, out in the open, trying desperately trying to hold some objective in no-man's land at the edge of the board.
I don't know why I put them there and thought they could hold that objective by themselves or do anything at all besides give my opponent free points.
And I keep doing it. Every game.
Honestly I have the same issue but a different flavour. Every list I make has a venomcrawler and he *always* overextends leaving what little infantry I have left in his dust over extended while he blows up trying to score an objective. That and deep striking raptors into the enemy’s back line only for them to get immediately shot off the board by overwatch. I know I’m making these mistakes but they seem fun at the time and my tiny brain cannot resist
I pour way too much energy into killing "the big tough thing" because the big tough thing is always scary. Then i fail to kill it. And then all the little things EAT. ME. ALIVE.