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00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Thank You Guys
01:50 - Horus, Konrad, Alpharius
03:20 - Lorgar
04:22 - Fulgrim
05:57 - Magnus
08:31 - Mortarion
09:26 - Perturabo
13:37 - Angron
17:54 - Recap
18:41 - Outro
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Angron got a thicker plot armor than Abbadon. That's a big buff
YEP LOL
Angrons plot armor wont save him from the orks. Thrakka will kill Angron... I have no doubts.
Now as long as GW doesnt do something stupid like killing someone off screen again...
Still not even half as thick as the average space wolf, let alone Russ.
I imagine it's because people complained about him for years
So the writers were like " oh okay so that's what you think about Angron?"
@@baddragonite Angron wasnt even on my radar until GW had him kill Yarik offscreen... Now I join Thrakka to find his lil red arse lol
My humble opinion on curze is that he might have stored his soul in his crown, just so that he can stay dead. You can't be brought back through warp shenanigans if your soul isn't in the warp
BUT there is cloning,and if the soul could be put in,,,?
That's what I mean, you can't put the soul into a clone if your soul is stuck in a crown and nobody knows it's in there
@@thehappynurgling3965Or where the Crown even is. Suck it, Fabius
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a member of the Night Lords who eats soulstones because he thinks he can hear the souls screaming? Cos that makes me think if the Night Lords got Konrad's soulstone, then that guy would have eaten it, therefore making his soul unrecoverable.
@@AngryHomunculus to be fair, the idea of this guy accidentally eating his own primarch's soul is kinda funny
We need to see angron make a sword out of fulgrim. It'd be funny. On a serious note it'd be interesting if Magnus coerced some unknown warp entities to work under him so he can find his shards OR just fight general threats to humanity like the necrons and nids (nids most likely seeing how tenth edition is going)
I am sure good ol' red boi can mindfuck the the tyrannid hive mind to give it an aneurysm
Make a sword out of the primarch of slaanesh? Itd be a giant dildo
Nurgle put Morty in time out for a while for disobeying
YEP LOL
He got put in the jar
Magnus' nipple horns are hilarious.
Is there even a tactical advantage to them ?
Maybe when bear hugging a titan, that'd do some damage ?
Honestly, perturabo should still be something like a chaos dred, maybe using the power of chaos undivided to be a master of the machine spirits of vehicles so he doesn't need to physically ever be in a battle but can be present through these chaotic robots. Hell, if the iron warriors get a range update bring back the initial concept of the necrons in some form as chaos robots.
cuz if peter Turbo will have Mastery of machine spirits He will be facing the Void Dragon
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It is interesting that they haven't shown us Lorgar in 40k era stuff. He should quite a bit to say about the state of things.
YEAH LOL, that would be hilarious
@@livefromtheblacklibraryThe Black Teplars would be a perfect foil for that story. They are a living embodiment of Lorgar being right, the Emperor being a liar, and... Dorns impotent rage lol (IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT)
i still think they should have kept him away from being a demon primarch and kept him just as the uncorrupted primarch of chaos undivided.
i think however that its okay he hasn't done much. my justification is that its requiring a whole loyalist primarch to keep him afraid and isolated, with corvus having to keep lorgar (a relatively powerful and sane primarch) out of the game by not going back to terra. i think corvus's sacrifice should be respected in that he is keeping another primarch out of the game instead of going anywhere else
Didnt corvus hunt him down in late 30k almost 40k?
@@dusanmezej9658 didn't kill him though
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The Lion and Roman and Raven oh my!
I really hope Logar and Perturabo get alot of love soon. They aren't bound to the 4 like their brothers, so less screen time.
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Fulgrim has so much potential, and I want him to be more present. Given we know about trazyn collection and that loyalist clone I want a follow up from that, great stuff!
Rylanor at full strength solos every demon primarch.
F A C T S 😤
Rylanor using his lore master skills to shame the thousand sons sorcerors into doing the right thing would’ve made my grandmother so proud
Iron without, Iron Within brother
Btw I think if Curze came back in a sort of way like how Magnus’ soul shard fuzed with that one guy to make the first grey knight grandmaster, it would be interesting. It would not be a continuation of his arc but the start of a new character, I would want the other person to be Zso sahaal but what do you think?
(Also some Word Bearer love was nice thanks bro)
I've been watching/listening to WH40k lore videos from awhile now and your channel is a great new style of content, you're gonna keep blowing up.
(Also your Omegon video was fantastic, I was literally like a dude in church standing from the pews for you to preach it)
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THANKS SO MUCH MAN! I feel like a lot of CZcamsrs are a bit too close to just the facts and others are all jokes so I try to stay in the middle
Its my opinion that Nurgle punished Mortarian like a disappointed father.
"I'm not angry. I am sad that you do not love me, my son. I hope you understand that during the agony you feel as you rot, renew and rot again while you are unable to move. You stay there until you understand, my beloved son."
We need to see what happens if Angron kills Lucius the Eternal. Given how much the followers of Khorne hate the followers of Slaanesh, this meet-up and beat-up is inevitable.
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I like to imagine that when Angron kill Lucius, instead of turning into Lucius his soul got transferred to the sword of Angron instead. There he will be in complete agony for all eternity, trapped within the Khornite sword forever
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Gotta say I am really really happy with how Mortarian and Angron were treated in the lore. Both got shit done. Wanting see more of Perturabo and Vashtor tho. That's something that is gonna be very interesting.
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Wish magnus had much more of an impact on the setting hes my favorite primarch and has such an awesome look/aesthetic him and his legion
magnus getting trick a lot is probably a fate appropriate for someone serving Tzeentch.
Mortarion strikes me as a character that really can't go anywhere. Like Kurze, he was fixable. Now, he is stuck, unable to progress because of his issues and being bound to Nurgle.
The Emperor was big on contingency planning and redundancy. This is shown in the Legions, with Russ and Angron, Corax and Kurze, Dorn and Perterabo being backups for each other. We know Magnus was specifically created to be able to operate the Golden Throne. Was Mortarion the backup for Magnus? He is the only other psychically active Primarch. What if he didn't fall to Nurgle? Was able to get some counseling and separate his hatred for his adopted father and for the Emperor from psychers in general? Unlocked his psychic potential and that of the Death Guard? Got some tutoring from Malcador? How powerful would he be?
Mortarion hated psyker so I don't think he was psychically active, sanguinius on the other hand does have a few psychic habilities
Yeah, he hated psykers but theres a theory he might be a psyker too.
I nean, the irony there would be delicious.
@@eduardobalieiro862 He wasn't psychically active. But he became psychically active after he pledged to Nurgle, implying he was suppressing his psychic abilities.
@@desperado3236 he is a psyker in 40k in his daemon prince form.
The Big E said he might be able to save Mortarion after he burned Nurgles Garden.
Really want to see the demon machine primarch boy. Iron within, iron without
YES PLEASE
What are your thoughts on a story about an Iron warrior together with the mechanicus creating a anti-warp weapon(something small like a blank grenade) and fulgrim coming back to destroy it and the chapter once for all, would it make a insteresting plot?
Make it the Dark Mechanikum and Turn it in to a weapon against the imps.
Do you mean a loyalist Iron Warrior?
@@livefromtheblacklibrary pardon i meant to say iron hands (both are similar in aesthetic and i get confused)
Okay real quick mention of the goat book shroud of night and how it implies that there is a alpha legion warp entity that might actually be the soul of Alpharius, in a nut shell one of the warband members of the unsung wants to use chaos while most of the unsung don’t, this one member breaks off on is own to pair up with some emperors children. And in the epilogue it says “the sorcerer gesticulated and a shimmering spray of unclean light rose from is palm forming a delicate sculpture in the air. A small ship amidst the void, little more than an atmospheric transport skiff. Aboard it, a single soul, full of anger and bitterness at those who had betrayed him, and hate for the galaxy that was about to snuff him out so uncaringly from existence. ( this is the important part so now listen) His soul burned in skeins of green and blue, and ethereal snakes twined around him, a many-headed hydra wrought in the energies of the warp” there’s more but it’s irrelevant, what I perceive this as is that a warp entity, the echo of Alpharius soul much like the Blood Angels two angels in the warp and just like how those angels chose champions so had the Hydra in the Warp chose a champion, our lone Alpha Legionary who chose to embrace the powers of the warp. No one gives this credit, no one mentions it but I genuinely think the epilogue of shroud of night hints to a alpha legion warp entity like the blood angels and how the soul of Alpharius has chosen a champion.
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I can relate to your struggles, and I wish you luck. Since I discovered this channel through your memes and that one video with the Remembrancer, you have quickly become my favourite lore channel. Your video style is a breath of fresh air in the lore community. Do you plan doing more videos with other CZcamsrs, such as the Remembrancer?
Conrad's soul seems to be in his crown, which was made of either noctolith or a similar material. Considering the effects it has on holders, I give it 90% Decimus becomes an avatar of the Night Haunter with perfect clarity prophecies
The problem with Lorgar is a symptom of a broader issue. This being the fact that GW never intended to release the primarchs in the game. Couple this with their weird refusal to alter their canon to keep up with the new situation, and the daemon primarchs doing squat for 10k years makes no sense.
Also, Magnus specifically didn't trust Ahriman.
By the time of the (supposed) death of jarrick, I really loved the idea of the orks going to war againts Angron, because not only will it keep Angron and the World eaters semicontainted, but also the prospect of the Ork going toe to toe with a Daemon primarch will make the orks grow bigger, stronger and smarter to the point that it'll look like the second coming of The Beast.
Perturabo has to have become a demon primarch. He was dying otherwise. When Fulgrim betrayed him to turn into a demon primarch.. Perturabo lived, but didn't actually get out of it unscathed.
I kind of want to see an interaction between Angry Ron and any of the traitor primarchs (on the same side fighting the imperium).
While I would adore to see a robo-daemon Primarch model of Perturabo
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I would want to see more Fulgrim and hopefully get a model of him.
Edit: I’m simultaneously happy that we got a new Fulgrim Model and pissed that it’s for 30k
magnus can get minor mentions of gathering his shards and that would be enough for a while
great video as always Chrono
THAAAANKS!
fulgrim and perturabo i would like to see, and hopefully setting up a with a confrontation with the iron hands and imperial fists respectively
SAME, especially since…the thing
I agree you are the only CZcamsr I know that actually explain the characters in great details that I can understand
I love your channel, interesting topics, and you can actually speak in a way that your videos does not fall in sleeping ASMR category.
I would like to see an alliance between Magnus and Mortarion in the optic to lessen Angron's power .
I really want Ghaz to kick Angron's ass and use his respawn as an unlimited source of fun and revenge.
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i thiiiiiink there's some old lore that Lorgar's come up with a few more demon summoning rituals to spread around to help Chaos's war efforts..... that's not really enough to affect the rankings but it's SOMETHING
Ahhhh maybe! Old lore was goofy like that lol, I’ll say though I haven’t heard it
To correct you fulgrim returned to real space to get bodied by Rylanor
Yeah I mentioned that
Angron won't be a threat to the imperium for awhile because he pissed of gazkhul.
I loved your Iron Warriors video.
Thanks man 🥺
I hope they make a Peter Turbo demon model soon. My Vashtor doesn’t think Abaddon is all that cool🤣
XD LOL, if demon perturabo doesn’t look like that one piece of art people are gonna riot
Love your content man!
Excellent think piece video.
Topic shift - I saw a post going around asking “if you could prevent a fictional characters death, who would it be?” My answer is Malcador the Sigilite. Can you imagine how different the imperium would be with him still acting as Regent?
I think the reason Angron has so much power is because he's the only primarch fully loved by his chaos god. Tzeentch likes to mess with Magnus and Magnus kinda doesn't like Tzeentch; Mortarion is basically a slave to Nurgle; Fulgrim isn't doing crap; Lorgar and Perturabo may be Chaos Undivided, but they've learned from Be'Lakor and will NEVER give more than a fraction of their power to undivided princes. But Angron? He's too far gone to actually hate Khorne anymore. And Khorne LOVES Angron. The nanosecond Angron is unleashed he lives and breathes bloodsheed and death, Khorne's core principles. Every time somebody is cut in anger, every time somebody is killed in battle, Khorne grows stronger. That's ALL Angron does. So Khorne is more than happy to keep fueling the blender by resurrecting him nonstop just like he does with Kharn. This is why Khorne is the strongest god in general right now; nearly all his followers, willing or not, empower him. The only way to NOT empower Khorne is to be a pacifist; which in Warhammer is a cruel joke of a concept. He's quite happy to bless them in return.
I didn't see the video of the Iron Warriors, but a hug from here. I love your work regarding 40k, you have a lot of charisma to engage newcomers like me to this universe. So keep going, all will get better eventually, you are doing great ❤
My favorite video of yours is the Anti - Warp theory by the way.
Suggestion, could you talk about the Proto - Primarch "The Sleeper" one day? I think it would be interesting. Or Erda, in my opinion the most wasted character on the franchise.
First time watching one of your vids. Your love for Slaanesh and Tzeentch, respect for the White Scars and your apologetic stance on Perterabo has me in Warhammer heaven.
I would like to see Vashtorr and Perturabo show up and wreck shit, but I have a feeling that is going to be second or third Primarch reveal. Fulgrim will most likely be next on the Traitor side to show up. The line needs some updates and hell they could mess with a Morathi (From Age of Sigmar) sculpt and likely make it easier for them to make a model for Fulgrim.
Perturabo has gotten me through some tough times at work too. When stress takes over, I just start thinking about how much better I am than Perturabo and how his legion deserved better.
Love your videos man
THANK
Perturabo will be to chaos what guilliman was to the imperium. I.e. a massive win constantly for his faction. If he can hard carry the horus heresy pre ascension, he can probably rally most of chaos to his banner and bring the imperium to its knees.
And fun fact, he trained an iron warriors chaos lord for the sole purpose of destroying a fortress world that protected cadia, allowing abaddon to besiege cadia. He didn't take part in the battle himself, but if he did abaddon would not have needed to throw a black stone fortress at cadia.
I fully agree with what’s been said about fulgrim but I would like to point out he’s the only demon primach that’s dedicated to one god who hasn’t got a figure yet so if we follow logic and pattern I think him and his sons are going to be busy soon kinda like my boy angron
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I feel like Purterabos (prolly misspelled that) return has the chance to be just as devastating as Angrons if not more. As Angron slaughter 77 sectors killing most people, purty will probably occupy and convert a majority of the sectors he captured. Not to mention making more daemoncubalas which in turn will only strengthen the Iron Warriors.
Your easily one of my favorite Warhammer youtubers ever. But where did the old intro song go? I loved it😫
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Gotta be Fulgrim first to complete the 4, then Perty.
Lorgar will most likely be the last traitor primarch to return and by that time, the most powerful with many blessings from every chaos god.
Fulgrim and The Emperor's Children are coming to the table top next year
I find quite the opposite, space wolves are very popular same with blood angels
The Iron warriors need to be the next big comeback as they are literally the most organized CSM legion.
I think Angron needs to met up with Lorgar and tear him apart for not letting him die. All Angron ever wanted was to finally die and be free. Lorgar though he was saving his brother, but all he did was curse him to live forever with the Nails still causing him constant agony. I always thought that Angron should meet back up and "thank" his brother for "saving" him.
Wow I had no clue largar was making a return and if that leads to corvus hell yeah
It was stated back when the great rift opened and the Word Bearers have been making moves in some mainline books
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Wait, you are quoting my comment on Majorkill's video? Well, that was unexpected. Thank you.
But you earned that accolade. Anybody can lore video the Alpha Legion. Good lore guys like Majorkill and Weshammer cover them in depth and in detail. You went beyond that. Really put in the brain sweat, broke it all down and laid it out concisely.
YEP THAT WAS YOU!
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Ayup, that was me. I enjoyed your video. One of the downsides of my occupation is too much time to think. An upside is no problem listening to good hour long lore vids and running up creators' watch time. 😁
I think Angron’s threat level feels right on. If Chaos really has all of these champions available, they should be wrecking the whole galaxy, which creates an impetus for the loyal primarchs to start returning, such as the Lion
Id love it if peter turbo geta retconed or explained that hes a demon prince of vashtor because dont they kinda get along jsut a little bit
I would argue all of his events during the heresy would be his burning of it
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Damn I'm in tears
Man lorgar should apeared when guiliman travel to terra just to roast bobby g before being punch back to the warp
I want to see Khan return next and fight Fulgrim. Hope he roasts Fulgrim again😂
I'm am really happy that other people like angron as much as you
The silliest part of modern 40k is the fact that Demon Primarchs get slapped so easily. I mean it makes all the appeal to fall for Chaos totally pointless.
Btw glad you got more support man, you are hilarious and I love your style. I had a rough family life as well, and I know what it feels to struggle and get the more embittered everyday.
Chaos makes you weaker cause if you were strong you wouldnt fall to it in the first place
Man i feel like if Conrad came back it would be awesome, the lunatic that spent 10 thousand years in a soul stone alone, how would he be now? A still a maniac? Would he come back reformed? In that case, what side would he pick? A lucid Conrad would be a menace to the imperium
Fulgrim seems the most likely with Loregar next likely as I expect the Ravensguard primarch to be coming back soon and they have history
As always peter turbo and the iron worriors carring the traitor cause on thier backs
Honestly, with how powerful Angron is I think they're setting him up for a big fall.
As you said he's too powerful right now he's not something that the Imperium can defend against with how quickly he returns.
Something has to bring him down to a peg to rein him in narratively.
This is my wild theory but I think we'll eventually see a team up of Guilliman and Lion where they take on Angron and Agron gets stabbed with the Emperor's blade.
I don't know if it'll actually kill him, it can kill lesser and greater demons but I don't know if it can kill demon Primarchs.
But it at least could weaken him sufficiently so he's not a constant threat.
Oddly enough, Korn was the best thing to happen to Angron. Not just because he gave angron peace but Someone who’ll ACTUALLY help him in battle. Did the Emperor ever stand side by side doing the 40k equivalent of the father son kamehameha
Khorne did not give him peace, the butcher's nails are still in Angron's head.
Blood for the Blood God
Angron got tabled in 30k by Glorious Hawkboi and then in 40k by the Lion, so he is definitely not #1. Peter Turbo got a beat down by Morty while looking for a Black Stone Fortress so he's no threat to anyone either. Morty, of course, whimpered when Big E took over G-man's body and got himself sent to his room without supper from Papa Nurgle. Magnus has been terribly written from day 1 as a mustache twirling villain who does nothing. I vote Fulgrim in S tier since he is the only one so far who hasn't got his ass kicked in 40k by another Primarch. His model will be back on the tabletop next year, so it will be interesting to see what lore they write for his 40k return.
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Mortarion may have attacked Ultramar but the thing is that Magnus is building something, the Thousand Sons are holding ground and building themselves up as a galactic power. They own more than Prospero's system but multiple others as well
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You are the ONLY content creator who is worried about the MurderCurse. Angron is a big fucking problem and Quartis is going to be an even BIGGER problem.
Mortarion getting punished just shows the bonkers level of grim dark in 40k. I mean it gets you thinking apparently there is something worse than the depthless despair and literal shit the Deathguard and Mortarion have become.
You, Majorkill, and Weshammer are the goals I want to achieve in my channel. But man its hard.
I want a duel of Fulgrims. Clone Fulgrim vs Snake Fulgrim
Not to be that guy, but mortarion did kill technically gorillaman in godblight.
Iron within iron without
To clarify; he killed guilliman in godblight, but big E resurrected gorilla man and then banished morty
1:43 Fock yes!! : ) I'm so happy it did that good. You to me, speak from the heart, and people like that. I do at least.
Loving your channel, on Samus we disagree, I think it's pretty cool and silly some times : p haha. However on 98% of the rest I can agree with you : ).
Imagine a proper resolution to The Greater Good arc where the Death Guard were successful in breaking through the Startide Nexus and invading the core regions of the Tau Empire
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Rhilanor deserves bether than all of us
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Hey! Morty killing Girlyman. Emps Dues ex Caesar'd that whole situation. Morty's kill should still count.
Mortaion killed gullieman, it was plot armor that the Emperor saved the smurf and beat mortarion
Deus ex machina
Mortarion and the Khan both slew each other, only for the Khan to be revived by the Emperor afterwards. Mortarion also basically killed Gullieman, only for the Emperor to yet again revive Gullieman and banish Mortarion.
I would argue that Mortaion won against Girlyman, heck he died in Godblight but the big E brought him back.
Magnus gets outsmarted because as intelligent and powerful as he is… His greatest weakness has always been underestimating others and or not being able to see his own flaws.
Nah mate its bad and biased writing. Do I even have to remind the KHORNATE AXE?
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I thought fulgrim was confirmed to have been spotted in real space in the gathering storm
He was. Idk if grey knights banished him back tho. Cause he was fighting them in that story