Liminal spaces - The Fear of Forgetting
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2024
- Hello again, It's been quite a while, as you can see this video is much longer than usual. You also may have noticed I've already made a video on liminal spaces in the past. But that video is old and outdated, the truth is I had a LOT more to say on the matter and wanted to reimagine that video since I love the concept of Liminal Spaces. Which is why this video is so long, but man making this video consumed me, hopefully it was worth it!
Thank you to Mustlord for letting me use some of his music in this video.
Mustlord's Bandcamp: mustlord.bandcamp.com/
Music used in order: Libet's Delay (The Caretaker) A World of Madness (Silent Hill OST) Dry Hands (Minecraft OST) Mice On Venus but it's E X T R A Nostalgic (Minecraft OST) Snow World (Yume Nikki OST) It's Just a Burning Memory but it's Libet's Delay (Jordan Keuring) The Last Clockwinder (Joel Corelitz) Pit and Temple Ambient - C (Dream Emulator) Happy Town Ambient - A (Dream Emulator OST) In the Hole Ambient Version (Indigo Parallel OST) Creeping (Yume Nikki OST) Wilderness (Yume 2ikki OST) Liminal Spaces II (Mustlord) Six Forty Seven (Instupendo) Creeping (Yume Nikki OST) Forest Highway (Yume Nikki OST) As the Days (The Carebear) I'll be remembering you (The Carebear)
Thanks for watching and have a great day :) - Zábava
Anyone who wants to immerse themselves in uncanny and spooky liminal spaces should try being a 3rd shift janitor for a little while.
Or nightshifting as security
Did that for while and was sometimes assigned to Shifts in a Hospital, with my Security-Walk (I don't know if theres a correct name for that right now) leading me through the basement of the Hospital and then up to All the actual hospital floors wich at nighttime obviously are very silent and devoid of life, besides the workers you occasionaly meet or some seldom noises like the patient alarm
Overnight housekeeper here! Can 100% confirm
Retail graveyard shift too
I worked tech support second shift in a decent sized office building for a while. It was always kind of cool to watch these spaces drain into the uncanny. When I started my shift ever day, it was a normal office but by the time I went home it had been empty for hours. I really liked the building and looking out over the city late at night (especially during snow storms) but I could definitely see how it would unnerve people.
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Seeing that poor dog who's been sitting on that chair for half a decade almost made me cry...
me too but i gotta remind u that is is just a bunch of ones and zeros
Me too, idk why but whenever I see a mindcraft dog left and forgotten about I always get sad
I believe they reincarinate to another animal untill u log back in.
My favorite thing about liminal spaces is their resemblance to dreams. Even some common dream phenomenon are liminal such as hidden doors or rooms in your house you didn't know existed
WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING ABT THOSE DREAMS
Forgetting and liminality work incredibly well together. I imagine a movie with no talking, one person just walking around liminal spaces, nothing happens, just walking, then it ends. It isn’t supposed to be good, it’s just there.
Might not really be what youre looking for, but "The Electric State" was the first thing that popped into my head when reading your comment.
@@DylansLappalterCopium I recently heard of it, it definitely fits.
When I was a teenager I would sneak out at night and hang out alone in my small town’s main st. I’d lay in the middle of the busiest road and stare at the stars and listen to the silence. It was awesome, but lonely
the Minecraft segment hit me super hard, like now i cant look at my old worlds the same anymore, all that time on the 360, playing tutorial worlds with my brother and friends. then all the sudden, im alone.
Minecraft single player is a liminal place, it feels so empty, and then, you leave.
Damn. Hit me hard too.
A 47 minutes liminal space video is exactly what I needed
I think the most accurate way of describing a liminal space
Is “uncanny valley but instead of for people
For a place”
Minor sad story involving the wooden playground thing. In my hometown there was a large wooden playground called Kid's Kingdom, it was awesome and had a vertical tire tunnel leading to a below section that was creepy but still fun. I moved away in early 2014 and it got lost to my memories. Last year I had the chance to take a trip back there with my fiancé and I wanted to show her the "Best playground I have ever been to"....but it was not the same....The sprawling wooden structure was replaced with some dinky "safe" standard playground fare, and the waterpark section which used to have a full water volcano feature... was gone as well.... It only exists in my memories now.... I was so disappointed....
Sth that you won't ever experience anymore
Just so depressing , hope they rebuild it
I have a feeling that this literally is the same one in my town. I looked it up and “kids kingdom” is kind of a common name for the wooden playgrounds but the volcano just makes it seem like it’s the same one lol. The new place just feels so sterile now.
Was this in South Bend, Indiana?
I've been appreciating and photographing liminal spaces for over thirty years, so I guess my consolation is to know I was ahead of my time....
I will never forget, way back in what was probably grade 3, my class had just finished the annual christmas concert in the gymnasium stage. all of the kids were supposed to leave with their parents, but for whatever reason, i stuck around, and lost sight of my parents. minutes later I decided to wander back to my classroom, thinking my friends or family would be there, but since it was past 7pm, I was met with nothing but dead, silent, empty school hallways. 8 year old me would NEVER be the same after the shock of seeing the once bustling halls now devoid of life.
Such a cool story
After having the free time over the weekend I fully watched this.
He might not see this comment but by the end it gave me a single tear.
There's a lingering fear after he explained all this and greater detail.
The fear of our own mortality.
"A future that might forget who i was but won't forget me" damnnnnn that hit hard bro i needed that
I find airports really calming and peaceful when I'm not in a hurry. It's a bit similar to the way I feel about walking through my local mall with no intent. Your videos are well done and this one really cuaght my attention! I hope your channel continues to grow!
I recently spent the majority of a weekend in airports waiting for flights. This comment pretty much sums up the experience. Some of the bigger airports especially look and feel like malls. I was traveling alone and, especially on the return trip, had plenty of time to wait for my flight. So I was able to just wander around and explore. The only thing preventing it from giving that full "liminal" feeling was that they were packed with people.
@@wallsocksProductions what's odd is being at any airport at a time when certain areas aren't packed with people, that's a little wild.
@@retromacman620 I usually go to the smokers area at mine when I can see there'll be a spot far away from the people smoking cuz it has a great view. One time for like a minute there was nobody there can you can't see into the airport from that spot. It was really nice. A plane was taking off and I imagined it was like the future and the planes are like AI controlled or something and it's empty so there's nobody around in the world at all haha
Ngl those pool rooms are the most eerily menacing feeling photos in this video to me
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Nah literally me when I saw the video
Silent hill music hits so deep!
Team SILENT truly was first to truly express vibes of liminal spaces!
Liminal spaces feel like either a structure or an entire world suffers from dementia rather than the individual, and that’s what makes them so deeply unnerving.
I think that this is a fair analysis of liminal spaces as a concept and as an overall visual style. Kudos for finally mentioning Marc Augé and why his non-places book is so important to understand liminality from an anthropological standpoint.
Thanks! But I can't really take credit for including Marc Auge as another youtuber called Clark Elison put it in a video about The Backrooms which is what caused me to do more research and mention it, the comparison has been made before, just not specifcally to liminal spaces, I hope to find more things soley on my own one day!
@@CresendexI love both of you guys' vids!!
Clark and yours
“If these wall could talk, they would say nothing”
Back to liminal spaces lets go
"There was one a time in my life where I would always fantasize about being the last person on Earth"
Amen brother
How can you guys fantasize about something so scary? Being the latest person on Earth must be so sad and lonely. And I say that as an introvert... But imagining myself so lost and alone... scary stuff
@@koopanique It would be terrifying, but that's a small part of the appeal. Fear can be entertaining, motivating, captivating, etc.
Okay, when a video starts with a quote from J. R. R. Tolkien and music from The Caretaker, you know it’s gonna be good.
Lol, we are so different.. I feel immense dread just by looking at that pool pictures, but you describe them like comfortable. And i feel so good loking at most "scary" ones, especially if they placed outdoors 😂
23:49 out of all the pictures shown this one freaked me out the most. It's not 100% the same place but similar enough to use I went to for a star wars themed birthday party once.
your videos always make me feel better, ive been feeling kind of down lately. so thank you
Hope you feel better and I'm glad I could help in any capacity.
i must have watched every single liminal spaces video essays on youtube. i adore this concept so much; and this was a great reflection on them!
"oh a liminal space video! I like those might as well watch it to pass the time"
*47 minutes later*
"that was the most beautiful and inspiring video I have ever watched"
For the wooden playground, it was mass produced so the exact same set was installed in a ton of places
I ride in a saddle that is a British Calvary Officer's saddle from WWI. I had it restored. My favorite sweater I ride in is a pastel yellow one with the rocky mountains on it and has that quote. I didn't realize it was a Tolkien quote until just now. Synchronicity is a beautiful thing.
To know I have a saddle from the men that inspired the riders of Rohan, I just had a real emotional moment there. I'm glad I saw this video. I'm so glad that object has a second life with me.
That playground is a specific pre-made one, so yes, those people did grow up with it.
Just not that exact one.
Back again with another banger of a video, I see
The wooden playground thing! I almost made the exact same comment that so many other people did, because I've actually visited the wooden playground of my childhood recently. It's the Playground of Dreams in New Mexico, my uncle helped build it and it's still around to this day. It doesn't look exactly like the picture you showed but it is eerie how similar it is to that.
Easily my favorite CZcamsr every video has so much thought and love put into it I can watch them for ever this was an absolute banger keep up the good stuff
Last summer I worked in my old elementary school for a month to clean it for the next school year. It was really weird to see my school empty in the middle of summer. I saw my old classrooms completely empty of people and furniture and the dark corridors filled with desks. the felling of liminality was very present. What hit me the hardest was being alone in the library and finding the same old books that I read in my childhood and walking the same path to go to school and back home every day (once in the morning at 7am when nobody is awake, twice at lunch and once at the end of the day) was a really weird experience. I also got to see place in the school that I had never seen like the elevator and the janitor's storage room.
When I was younger, the night in Minecraft scared me because of how empty it was. Even if I was in creative mode, when night came, I hunkered down in a hole until day. Now, I really like liminal spaces and really want to explore them. It feels like the places are saying something.
Sometimes, when I go to historical places (there's a historical village from colonial times near my house) and the roads and bridges and houses that are left there always felt liminal. People used to use these things as just another aspect of their lives, like just going down the road and going to the tanner or something, but now that I look at these empty historical villages, it feels so liminal (especially since there aren't many people who visit the village, devoiding it of life). I think historical places like this is a good example of liminal spaces, a place devoided of life suspended in a time lost.
One thing I differ on with this is the poolrooms. They just unsettle me in a weird way, I can just imagine something splashing closer, and closer out from the dark leaving me powerless to stop it. I only really would feel comfortable in a poolroom of closed off walls because I'd be terrified of hearing the splash of something else in the distance.
I never thought about the word “unheimlich” like that because it just means “scary” or “eerie”.
Really enjoyed the video. Great work!
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I will never forget my last day of elementary school. Back then I hated school, I often didn't wanna go, I'd rather stay at home and sleep longer and then play outside all day. Last day of elementary school we had party with all the students from out generation and teachers, after all was over, it was late noon, I stayed in last, school was pretty much empty, maybe few teachers left in their offices so I decided to just walk around the school for the last time to say my goodbyes, it was so liminal, so empty and familiar, I went down to the lower classes where
I went when I was a kid, I had such a great memories from it, I will never forget that alone walk thought my elementary school and feelings I got while walking.
The feeling I get from the liminal space pictures that affect me is a weird mixture of comfort, melancholy and yearning. It's a feeling hard to describe, but ever since 'liminal space' has become a social media phenomenon that people talk about at least I now know what to enter into the search bar to get to that mental/emotional place if I'm in the mood for it.
I've also found that certain musical/sound pieces can get me to that state (mostly meditative music) and you're using a lot of them in this video. I guess people really are more alike than they are different.
Probably one of the most sensational, and well written liminal space video ive ever seen, well done
A wonderfully crafted video essay, I love this man’s content
Me too. Such a unique perspective
I love these kinds of videos
I love liminal spaces. Glad to see you made a video on it. Ima watch it now
17:49 this one had me pausing for a straight few minutes as I remember a similar place from a nightmare, that one had me in shock at how real some of these places feel from your dreams, amazing video dude this stuff is wild.
What a wonderful note to end this video on. Really uplifting. Thank you!
tbh ive never found such a perfect word for the feeling i felt about these places before i discovered liminal spaces. the feeling you explain at the beginning about exploring empty places is so resonant with me
oh and i love your videos, thanks
This video is amazing, I'm honestly surprised it doesn't have like a million views
For me, when looking at liminal spaces I get this sort of feeling of hopelessness and inescapability. I imagine that the places from liminal spaces are all there is to that world, that there is nothing beyond it, no escape and hence, no hope. You're trapped in a limited world, all alone with no hope.
A good portion of these liminal spaces feel eerily claustrophobic as well which just adds to that feeling of being trapped with no hope of getting out.
Love your videos, found you yesterday. The way you articulate to describe the undescribable allows me to understand your thought process on these complex topics
This makes me feel old. I was already an adult when Minecraft released. The thought of kids living their lives online and forgetting aspects of their experiences after years in MINECRAFT is so crazy to me. Like, I understand, but in much simpler terms.
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I've rarely actually been in an airport and yet something about them always stuck with me, to the point where I occasionally have dreams that take place in airports or plane hangars, but these dreams and places often make me feel... uneasy
I remember waking up early and seeing everything, orange it was crazy to see it as a kid, I was just wandering around with nobody around I never felt that same liminality but it was still, a thing. Something about skipping around jolly and shit was fun. The best part was courage was on the TV, this happens during like the pandemic but I don't know when.
This is my favourite genre of video tbh
This is the best video essay I’ve watched in months. Thank you!
You have never made a video that was bad or was poorly made. The quality your your content is incredible. This is easily one of your best videos yet and is my personal favorite of the videos that you have made. You are a seriously underrated channel. Keep up the phenomenal work man.
Edit: It is absolutely criminal that one of your videos hasn't reached 1mil views yet and your channel not having at least 100k subs for the amount of quality you have put into your content.
the units - ready for the house is the goated liminal space album cover
every time this man posts my month is complete. all of these videos are amazing in every way to watch at any time
I EEN WAITING FOR YOU TO POST ABOUT THIS OMG (it’s a really great video, I really enjoy ur content)
I think it's been a year since I was first introduced to your channel, and I'm still blown away every single time!!!
Bro, this is insane! 21:40 we played at a playground very similar to that on a field trip in third grade. It’s very surprising to me that this is such a widespread thing! Just looking at the photo gave me such an nostalgia.
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Man, your content is really pure gold.
You have the ability to talk about something, so deep, for so long and without loosing track for even a single moment. Even if it may be written in a script the sheer fact that you can capture it in a video is something to admire.
I really love the liminality as a whole, specially the poolrooms, they are in fact the portrait of a place you would be comfortable with, and well, humans have thought so for quite a long time, if not, ask the greek and romans! But back into liminality, I really think it's neat to touch this kind of topics, not only for what they mean themselves but foir what they can tell us about ourselves. You know, you could say you know yourself better than anyone since, well, it's you. But after thinking about it for a couple of minutes... you really don't.
So yeah, it's cool to see such an intresting concept being treated with some love and deep thought.
Nice work, keep it up!
Your minecraft rant hit me, I have similar experiences & I miss our old seeds.
Liminal Spaces, despite being at the crossroads of three of my biggest fears, rarely scare me: loneliness, forgetting and being forgotten.
This channel does great analysis and that is what I love, I recently subscribed and despite speaking Spanish I really like the explanatory and how it delves into the subject and how it is taken :)
Hellll yess lets goo! I just want you to know, i watched all the videos on your channel, i think you're an awesome creator.
Your vids have gotten astronomically better, I was put off by the Megalophobia vid but each vid becomes twice as good as the last.
Love your videos man ❤
"A place between" is a good of a definition as any to me. Between what? Anytime and everything. Between here and there, between then and later, between consciousness and unconsciousnes, between use and disuse, between life and death, between remembering and forgetting, between familiar and unfamiliar. Liminality is the between state. And that between state can startles us or be uncanny because we usually don't focus on the background, because we feel like and for the most part, we weren't meant to actually see it, at least until it stares us in the face. A liminal space is the background between states given focus. Like imagine the apartment from Friends with no one on set and the lights off. Nostalgia or anemoia, or the thing between them, isn't a part of liminality in the truest sense, but it is at the same time, because it's between then and later, between life and death, between happy and sad, and between remembering and forgetting, like how a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
this is easily the best video on liminal spaces ive ever seen. amazing work.
Another banger video. You're doing a fantastic job with the videos, man. The growth you've gotten shows how great they are. I'm glad to follow this journey with you, and i hope to see more from you. (I'm sorry if this seems random, but the mode of the video and my thoughts of how long ago it was when we had that very brief convo about your videos in a comment section made me feel the need to say this. Seriously though, I'm glad you're still uploading, and i can see the improvements you've made with your videos. Definitely great quality content.)
I recognize the username, which comment section? (Also thanks!)
Damn dude, I love your videos. Great work and thank you
Good video! I like the atmosphere of these videos 👍
please keep making videos, your stuff is like crack to me bro
When I was in Junior High one year, we had an up all night event with video games, snacks, basketball, music and movies. The whole night was this. Sometimes in reverse though. Being in a place that you know should be empty at that time but for whatever reason people are heard and are doing things. It's a different sense of uncanny.
"I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said-“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
-Ozymandias, Percy Bysshe Shelley-
36:14 I noticed Alfaoxtrot's infinite suburbia photo!
When you talked about the air ports a movie popped in my head called The Langoliers it’s based on a Stephen King novel. Not the best film, but it does capture the emptiness and loneliness one feels being in a massive structure. Honestly loved that movie growing up.
thank you for this video, i’ve been hyperfixated on liminal spaces for the longest time
This video has changed my view on everything. Thank you
I was just in the mood for something like this... thanks!
Ive only ever found comfort in these spaces. Thank you for keeping the topic alive in 2024!
This video itself feels liminal because I love these types of videos, and I'm not sure I'll ever see one again.
omg he posted again. keep up the amazing work!
I’m always thinking of liminal spaces cause I love them so much cause like dreams just feels amazing being in a dream and when I think of a place that gives me a comfort I would think of a land that looks liminal I would also get the same feelings from music like fantasy or piano mythical type feeling
I found an image online of a yellow wall with a arch cared into it and a small window. When I saw it I freaked out, becasue I had sworn I'd seen this place before in a memory of my cousins house. I showed it to my friends and they wernt as freaked out abut it. It then started to make me think about how my cousins had never lived in a place like that. Ever. So I was pretty freaked.
Great video, very relatable, well done!
I love your videos! I don't know how you only have 37k! You're videos remind me of Virtual Carbon's!
fucking sobbing at that last bit???? Thank you man, i needed that.
This reminds me of the first episode of Twilight Zone. No one else being there, yet you are all alone slowly forgetting those who you loved who you are...
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This was a well done video…I am glad you made this…I need to start doing a channel on Cognitive Neuropsychology…but to make sense of liminal Terror…a person need to understand the neuroscience behind it…pattern recognition vs. circumstantial agnosia…memory is not video tape, it’s a visual/verbal construct…it’s why people with aphasia cannot remember as well…and why there is a thick white matter bundle connecting the two hemispheres together, which is most dense between the language and visual abstract processing region of brain (not the occipital lobe, which processes the visual input but does not perform abstract associations) As a neuroscientist all this is deeply fascinating to me…we can’t forget evolutionary biology either…Freud is wrong…our childhood and adult fears spring from an origin far more ancient…evolutionary biology tells us…before we climbed down from the trees, we were hunted in darkness and low light…snakes, big cats, spiders with venomous bites, and of course, each other…those oldest parts of our brains still reason in such a way…to protect us assume threat in anything that we cannot identify…why? Even today as we still make a most peculiar apex predator…a pursuit predator, often accompanied by one of our oldest companions, another pursuit predator so like us…the dog…but why we react the way we do…to liminal spaces and even dogs sometimes do…is a bit of the ancient brain we still carry with us…
25:00 having being born in 1992, I grew up in the 90s.
It kinda sucked.
Some things were pretty cool, though.
I had bought, at 8 years old, a small LCD screen for the PSone we had (and still have), for travelling. It was hard saved money. Around 100$!.... And there was a dead pixel in the center. My parents told me I couldn't return it because it was normal🗿
Other than that, if we speak aesthetics, I wasn't much aware or the stuff. I was of the thought that things would remain constant, so why bother?
But I do remember some of the hairstyles, computers being uncommon (my father did have one, though) but became more common in the later 90s, the music on the new and weather channels being mainly saxophone-heavy, shoulder pads for women formalwear.
I remember the aesthetic of the 90s changing to a different one, a bit of the weird millenium style. Then the 2000s and the frutiger aero and eco-focused aesthetics came and by god was it often horrible 😂
Seriously, the TV section of the electronic store flyer sucked! Images of people on grass, flowers and hot air balloons... So boring.
So, am I nostalgic for the 90s?
Yes and no.
No, because I love our modern connected world.
Yes, because it was the start of over a decade of personal hardship from a condition and having to rebuild friendships from loneliness because of moving between 2 provinces twice. Yeah, that's a feeling of missed time and opportunity that made me having to work hard on myself... Basically, I was one of those that had it all and lost it all, having had to rebuild myself. It could have been worse 😅
First video of yours I’ve come across. 10/10 subscribed.
I've seen that photo of the Mont-Saint Michel in megalophobia compilations. I don't know of any liminal space compilation that has that picture.
But that image could warrant the idea of half-liminal spaces. Spaces where you could argue on a destination but no starting point or vice versa. That image would then fall into that category.
I like your skill in storytelling.
The movie 'Quiet earth' was a nice depiction of how the circumstance of being the only remaining person on the entire planet could affect your psyche
My first liminal experience before it was even a thing was walking home from a friend’s house as a teenager early in the morning after spending most of new year’s eve playing video games with him. It was a long hike and the streets were completely empty and quiet. A good part of the walk I took over a highway, just walking over the line dividing the two lanes. I don’t think I’ll ever feel something like that again…
Great video, as always