Make Atlas Lathe Milling Attachment pt5 Tips
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This is a 5 part video series wherein I design & build a milling attachment for my ATLAS/CRAFTSMAN 12" lathe. 115 minutes in length. Watch all five parts & then subscribe. Then watch my 950 other shop videos.
Many cups of coffee had the teacher Mr. Pete,the instructor showing the potential problems,and solutions as well as the aside's which may be expected to occur using the If&Then metric. The penultimate in machining instruction,from a peerless TEACHER !!!
Popular Science, Popular Mechanics, Popular Electronics.....back in the 1950-60's....were really excellent....
Doug Ankrum ...that was a different era, all right.
What a wonderful series! Another excellent job. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Just finished watching all 5 parts of this series. This would be great for anyone who only wants to do a bit of light milling and can't afford to buy or justify owning a milling machine. Thanks for taking the time and effort to share these.
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Thank you for this video series Mr. Pete!
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My brother told me yesterday “ a good mechanic always knows where he’s going before he gets there.” Plan ahead so there will be no surprises to attend too. Good job!
Your brother is a wise person. My mentor said "plan your work, then work your plan"!
Great video on how to use this attachment. And I appreciate the explanation of climb milling. I thought i knew what it amounts to and now I do know for sure. Thank you Mr. Pete
There's a (Mr)Pete and rePete joke in those opening comments somewhere...
I very much enjoyed this long format, multi episode project! Always a treat to start both weekend days with a Tubalcain video, too.
Thanks Very Much Mr. Pete for your time and inspirations. Enjoyed the series build and the thoughtful chat throughout for a very versatile setup. Looks pretty rigid to me and low profile all the better! Hat Tip to you for all you give to the community!
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I don't have the luxury of a milling machine...all I have is the homemade one.
So most of my milling will have to be on my lathe. So I will have to make a drawbar
& make my own mill holders.
I have to go back & check your older video's on this subject, but I'm eager to learn!!!
Aloha,
Chief
what a great series, mr. pete - thank you!
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Well, Mr. Pete, now I know. After watching your videos for years, you have been saying CLIMB milling, which makes a lot of sense because of what it does. I always thought you were saying CLINE milling, named for that old beloved shop teacher Mr. Cline. Now I know.
Great job, as always, on this video series Mr Pete. In the 1959 Sears tool catalog the Drawbar arbor is $2.75. The weldon type tool holder is $8.95 for 6", 9.95 for 12" lathe...the four bushing set was $2.77..."I digress"
Very interesting series, Mr Pete. I had heard that the lathe was the only machine that could replicate itself. With your help in doing this series, I know how a lathe does this and what a versatile machine it really is.
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Another great video Mr. Pete, I love to repurpose and adapt things. Back in the early 70's I remember a favorite neighbor gentleman next door who, after me and my mother moved in he saw I had no father and among other things he gave me a massive back issue stack of those old popular mechanics, popular science and mechanics illustrated mags to read. I was only about 9 or 10 at the time and I spent endless enjoyable hours reading through those old but interesting magazines learning endless fundamentals on how to fix build do and repurpose things - and I especially liked the old series like "Gus Wilsons Model Garage" and articles by a car reviewer of the time Tom McCahill. I even recall one guy restoring an old Edison wax cylinder phonograph, I always had a natural curiosity on how things worked and I believe those magazines spurred my interest in cars and mechanical things in general. That neighbor is long gone now and I was priviledged to know him, but he taught me many things on how to fix mowers, build things and even took me to the Illinois state fair one year. I still have the cast metal tractor set he bought me at the Farm expo building, if I only knew now what I knew then I would have spent more time learning from guys like him than wasting time hanging out with friends riding bikes building models and such, but that what a boy did back then, there were no cell phones, computers, ipads etc etc. and yet I feel I had a very full childhood in many ways.
A great project! I can not do this one at this time but am impressed by the possibilities. Thanks for the series, not too long at all as each section gives a lot of incentive to wait for the next. Greg.
G'day Kevin here from Australia. 10 out of 10 for this series. 👍
Once again, another great instructional video series. Thank you.
Great, absolutely great. A wonderful series, would like to see more. Excellent job Mr. Pete, like it no, love it yes.
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Really great series Mr. Pete. When I was young my "mill" was a home made milling attachment on my 10" Atlas! It is a great way to have some milling capabilities without all the expense of a dedicated machine. I consider it the "shopsmith" of metal working machines because set ups do take some time. Advance planning of work operations can save set up time. An easy for new operators to remember the X,Y and Z on a lathe is to think of the lathe in a vertical position, like a mill. The orientation then is identical.
Thanks Mr Pete, what a clever way to convert to a milling attachment 👍🏻
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Who'd have thought a lathe could be used in such a way!
Very good series . Nice project. I'm glad I have a Bridgeport .
Forgot too say I really liked that black cross slide dial
Thank you Mr. Pete this was a very interesting series an informational on how to make the milling attachments.
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Great info Mr Pete. Now I know why I had so much trouble with using a mill cutter as a drill bit in my press. Thanks
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Nice work my friend. I enjoyed watching all 5 parts. I have an Atlas 12 inch lathe and l plan to make this attachement. Thanks
I've wanted to do this for a long time. But, put the vice dead over the way. It would be even easier with a 10" compound since it's thinner. Very nice work. I predict it will be more usable. The gibs being around the back side would make it stiffer against the overhang. Suggest adding one. A rear gib would effectively make the existing way twice as wide against tipping forward. Think about it. (Comment left at beginning before viewing. Probably more fitting for episode 4)
Then at the end, you pan down and show the rear gib. Yea!!!!! Thanks for your good work sir.
Enjoyed this series. Made an ER32 collet adapter for my 10 inch Atlas. Seems to work well. Thank you.
Your finished milling attachment, judging by the sound of that first cut in the round stock, does a better job than my genuine Boxford (South Bend) one! think it's as your's has less of an overhang, I will have to recheck all the ridgidity criteria you highlighted, and practice some more, anyway, enjoyed this series, many thanks.
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I really enjoyed your 5 part video series on making a a milling attachment for the Atlas Lathe. I own a 10" Atlas lathe and it came with the milling attachment however it was interesting to see how you duplicated the attachment using the lathe's components. On Keith Rucker's website he has old Popular Science plans for making a quick change gear box for the Atlas lathe. As QCGB's are very rare items (and expensive) to purchase I wonder if you would consider tackling that project. I'm sure it would be beneficial to many Atlas lathe owners and be an interesting series of videos. Thanks again for the entertainment and the classroom education. Much appreciated.
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Very neat, i just bought a south bend 9 in lathe and now my wheels are turning. Good video
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A great series Mr Pete, I'd give "a kings ransom" for a set of those nice dials for my 618
Thanks for the informative video Mr. Pete. It will help me to make the decision on whether to make the jump to a mill or shoot for the compromise.
Thanks Mr.Pete! Great series! You've actually inspired me to whip up one of my own:) .
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Greetings from Spain mr.Pete Keep up the good work!!!! Very Inspiring!!!
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yes, need one for my Colchester master. interesting.
Really cool series, thanks......makes me glad I have a Bridgeport
In the case of that thin stock and overhang you might moderate the issue a bit with some heavier stock or some block shaped tools laying around to clamp between the piece and the vise, adding mass to the whole system amd providing support closer to the area being worked on.
Basically extending the vise jaws. You could also make up extended or special shaped jaws to swap on when needed for easier setup.
The LATHE, the only machine tool that can replicate itself. Good looking dials on that lathe. It looks to be much sturdier without the overhang, especially the overhang of the Palmgren. Great work overall. See you in the next video. (Edited for punctuation. MP)
Mature Patriot The cameo by the 3D printed dials caught my eye too, they really stand out well.
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Thank You for another great video.
I always learn a lot from your instruction, and today i just learned a whole lot more.
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Great series Mr. Pete. Thanks so much!
Joe
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Im building one of these but i only have the 109 lathe and no mill at all . I have to bolt both jaws of vise because its all scrap i have to use . Im excited!
Once again excellent series. Thank you. Kind regards, Ted
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thanks Prof Peterson. this is a good project for the guy with only a lathe to get his/her brain cells working.
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Thank you mr Pete
great series mr pete, so informative! cant wait for the next one
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i may build this if i can find the parts great job
And an awesome job !!
I enjoyed this series!
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As always, a great video! I have an Index mill, and a Logan lathe, so I don't need one, but would be so nice to have one turn out that mice! I'm not sure about the new lighting, your videos are already very well done.
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What my dad did in a crazy weekend was to bore out a 4" hole, deep in a square 'rod'. Then turn the rod and taper the end. Then do a 80tpi thread for an Fountain pen head! He bored it on the vice (has a 4 jaw OBTW) then turned it in the lathe and threaded it. Did 2 last one worked. He turned the handle in the wrong way and the thin wall ....
Fantastic series. Thank you. - I don't recommend it, but I've "milled" a few pieces held in a quick change tool holder.
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Nice series Mr. Pete
Loved the series.. now I how to figure out how to make the mill attachment without a mill....
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Worked great, lots of mass there really helped. Thanks for sharing.
Love how that in the past, machinists used to wear suits and ties to work. :)
Travers Tool Co. and others have the Morse taper fractional end mill holders in stock. Not too expensive and worth the money if you intend to do milling.
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There is currently an Atlas South Bend milling attachment on ebay, starting at $314 plus shipping. This make Mr. Pete's attachment a bargain.
Wow, that's a little pricey
Thank You, Mr.Pete
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In commercial woodworking we used to call it Climb and Plough (conventional) milling.
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THANK YOU...for sharing. Enjoyed.
great series.
Hi Mr Pete. Hope you see this query, I have just finished watching all 5 episodes in this series 3 years after the last contributor! The queries is : how do you ensure the the y axis is 90 degrees to the x axis? Any play in the two bolt hole for the t slot fixing might let the slide body rotate from the vertical. How would you check for this? I have just bought a sphere 10" lathe which is a UK made copy of the atlas 10" and am finding your videos very informative and inspirational.
i never knew they made milling tool holders other than collets,bet they are hard to come by....
Yes they are
There's really no such thing as climb milling or conventional milling when using the end of the end mill (such as your facing operation). This would only apply when using the side of the end mill. Thanks for a great series Mr. P.
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Man these videos have been such a life saver for me. I have a Craftsman atlas 12" x 18". The only thing I can't seem to figure out is why I keep getting so much bending in the tool post holder and carriage assembly as soon as I make contact with the material. Is this coming with these lathe?
Extremely clever adaptation. Thoroughly enjoy your videos. Wish I had discovered your channel long ago! I've been involved with machining all my life and still pick up useful hints! Thanks for all your efforts. By the way, tried to go to our website mentioned in another video (believe it was mrpete22 ) and couldn't get there. Do you still have a website?
Thank you for watching, there is no, I shut my website down
Well done! Thank you sir!
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Thank you.
The homemade tool you are holding at 12:08 I think you called it something else when you made it, maybe tap follower? For holding in the tailstock?
you do nice work.
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Can we use this for facing or cutting tools to centering the tool
Can you do an experiment on electric motors? I know you like electricity and motors. Is it possible to replace brush motor brushes with ball bearings that has metal lubricant like molybdenum?! If it works then you can have brush motor with the advantages of a brushless.
Kings ransom for a drawbar. I'm looking at an Atlas for sale and the more I look for used parts the more this phrase rings true. I'm a little more craftier than average though otherwise I wouldn't be looking for a lathe in the first place. I bet I could turn a draw bar relatively inexpensive than purchased.
Merry Christmas, and good luck on finding those parts
@@mrpete222 I heard about a fella on CZcams who has a collection of Atlas lathes and virtually every part and attachment. He won't part with them though. d; Merry Christmas.
@@teeroux How many does he have--like 10
@@mrpete222 Well that's just the ones he shows he's always talking about some locked in the basement!
16:22 CNC milling machines are equipped with "ball screws" and special ball bearings, so there is no backlash.
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Well, back around 15:00, he does explain that he's referring to 'small, light duty machines'....but you're right about ballscrews...I spent 10 years working on NC machines in the 1970's...ball-screws on every axis.
Doug Ankrum ...if you say so-!
0:38 I looked up that article.
Very interesting Video! :-)
Great series of Videos, Mr. Pete...You got me interested in doing some machine work several years back...This series brings to mind another of my Heroes on you tube.. Steve Jordan, over in England...He is a genius who does all his work on a small Myford and a Mini lathe..He has no Mill....his work is most fascinating..check him out..
Would mounting some mirrors be useful for using this sort of attachment when working on the far side?
Special quick change gear mechanism for Atlas 10F Lathe; Back in about 1968, we lived in Brookfield Il for a short while. While there, I met a guy who designed and made a special quick change gear setup for those lathes. I can't remember for sure whether he sold the whole thing, or made kits for it. The whole thing replaced the gear cover on the left side of the spindle. Have you ever heard of this thing?
Just today, a guy on smokstak.com showed pix of an Atlas 10F lathe that he just bought and I think it has that gearbox.
you can see it here:
www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1563083#post1563083
Pete Stanaitis
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Thank you, I will take a look at that. I never heard of such a thing.
@@mrpete222 Well, guess what!!! Here it is:
czcams.com/video/7kB2NFhUWKE/video.html
He even mentions you as he shows us around his nicely restored lathe!
I bought a 36" Atlas 10" lathe (TH54?) many years ago at the shop that a used machinery dealer was clearing out. The end plates for that modification came with it. Later on I sold that one when I got a deal on a "in better shape", but shorter, 10F.
Mr. Pete I need your help. Purchased a steady rest at a estate sale hoping it would fit my Logan lathe. It does not. I can't ID it. Could it be modified to fit the Logan. Thanks for all your great videos. They have been great help.
Rc
Probably could be modified
those milling attachement are hard to find here quebec and on the net aparently they made out of gold :( look like im never gona get oune so sad
I have very seldom seen these at auctions
I'd also use this if I had a setup on my mill that I didn't want to disturb for a small milling task. Kinda lazy, I guess.
How I can buy you Atlas course videos? Your website side doesn’t work. Thanks!!!
You will find everything you need to know about my video courses in this CZcams video of mine.
Here is the title, search for it
“ spring special, Mr. Pete’s machine shop video courses”
@@mrpete222 THANKS!!!
Mr. Pete, are you trying to get me in trouble with my wife??? Your opening says buy a new tool every other day, didn't it used to say every other week? I try to listen to what you say, but now I'm going broke because of it!!! lol
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Hello mr. Peterson, I understand you have some videos courses on running the atlas lathe, how dose one go about getting those? I've searched and can't find a email address or web page, any help would be appreciated, thank you
Hi Greg
Yes--I have 5 courses. Search for--and watch this video for all the details.
SPRING CONTINUING EDUCATION Video SHOP Courses logan lathe tubalcain
that attachment kinda explains this i.imgur.com/N8zoepF.jpg i.imgur.com/AoYi1vJ.jpg Palmgren 400 this came with it as a separate item i.imgur.com/zv9dz93.jpg
Thank you
Time to pay the kings ransom for a couple new nuts.
Where's the fun in that? Make em yourself!
Fred Miller That's a lot easier said than done-!!
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