"Which iPad should I buy?" Using an iPad for reading music. Harp Tuesday ep. 198
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- Are you thinking using an iPad for reading sheet music? In this episode I try to answer the question of which iPad you should get! I also give a review of my experience upgrading this year from an iPad Air 2, to a 12.9 inch iPad Pro, as well as using the Apple Pencil.
As far as using an iPad for reading music, the short answer is that any of the current iPad offerings (iPad 8th Gen, iPad Air 4th gen, or iPad Pro) are easily capable of doing so. The question comes down to screen size - if you want the 12.9 inch size (so nice!) you're forced to get an iPad Pro. If you think you'll be fine with the smaller screen size, then the iPad 8th Gen will be fine.
If you're trying to figure out what screen size you want, here are three PDFs I created. One shows the dimensions of the current set of iPads (as well as my old iPad Air 2), the other two show what a piece of music would look like, on the 12.9 and 10.2 size, respectively. (The music is my freely available arrangement of a Bach cantata - www.harptuesday.com/jesu/ )
Comparison chart: www.joshlayne.com/iPadScreenS...
Bach 10.2 (base iPad) www.joshlayne.com/iPad8thgenB...
Bach 12.9 (iPad Pro) www.joshlayne.com/iPad12BachE...
I love the forScore app for organizing, reading, and marking music: forscore.co/
iPad benchmark info: browser.geekbench.com/ios_dev...
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0:00 Intro - what iPad should I get?
1:06 comparing iPads
1:38 Processing power
3:06 How much storage do I need?
6:53 How big a screen do you need?
12:24 What iPad to get comes down to screen size
16:40 Review and what I use an iPad for
17:30 using an iPad for online lessons
20:48 using an iPad for performing
25:25 using for music publishing/prep
26:36 long term practice
30:06 ergonomic advantages
30:41 Landscape mode
31:12 The new gear fallacy?
33:51 So which iPad should I get? - Hudba
This is one of the best reviews I've seen regarding a musician's perspective. Thank you!
Aww, thanks Germain, great to hear!
@@JoshLayne I just got my iPad 8th gen today! I'm super happy about it!
What music sheet reader app do you use by the way?
@@germaingomez8853 he says it at the beginning of the video “forScore”
Fantastic review. I'm a pianist stuck with Android products. I saw a piano recital last week and he was using (what turned out to be) an iPad. NOT using a foot pedal drove my curiosity to find out more. I stopped using a turn pedal because it was noisy and constantly disappeared! The use of facial recognition intrigues me.
Music notation: I will continue to mark my paper score because it's so easy. THEN I'll scan it to ForScore.
Visibility: I have old eyes (because I'm old). The rods and cones in the eye wear out so that a strong light source is a requirement. Younger musicians may not need the iPad Pro. I will buy it because bigger is better for my eyes, plus I love the pencil. And let's face it, I still love gadgets.
Now I'm off to hear you play harp.
I can't help but have a big smile on my face whenever I watch your video.
The sheet music comparison is a really good metric, thanks for this detailed review!
Really great video and answered so many questions I have regarding exactly which to choose and why for music reading purposes and teaching. Thanks!
As a pianist and piano teacher currently wondering whether to brave buying one of these expensive things for my teaching and general organisation, this was absolutely invaluable information - thank you very much, Sir!
Really great video on a timely matter fir so many colleagues. The possibility of traveling with a slightly lighter, smaller 11” or 10.9 air is tempting. But weighing the pure reading options is terrific.
Thanks!
This a fabulous review and answered all my questions. The screen size print outs were particularly helpful. You've helped me to the conclusion that no one device will cover all my needs. If I go down the ipad for music route I need the Pro for screen size, but I'll most probably need to also buy a smaller device for reading books etc.
This was very useful information and will help me in decision making. In fact, great timing for the pre-Santa wish list. Thanks. 🎶
Thank you for a great video.
The print outs you did were incredibly useful.
Looks like I’ll be saving up for the larger iPad Pro 😊
Thank you sooo much for this video, and mainly for the super useful PDFs comparing sizes. It helped me a lot. :D May you be very successful in everything you do! :D
Great review, Thank you Josh.
I simply Convert Powerpoint slides with PPT Mirror tool for any Generation of iPad and present them in a teleprompter on every browser and the tool is compatible with any bluetooth remote/pedal pageflip to switch the slides,
Hi Josh, I went back and reviewed some of your harp Tuesday's from way back. And that was really a great idea because I used them with my theory books and what a difference it made. I found the correct way to play stack notes and playing cross overs and cross unders with greater control. Your also very creative in photography. I just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work. This is why your my favourite harpist.
Aww, thanks Sandra!
So many excellent well tested
tips thank you ❤
What drives me batty about using an iPad to read music is only being able to see one page at a time. I only use it if absolutely necessary.
A very helpful video! Thank you so much. Really appreciate the print outs!
Very thorough and helpful video. Thank you.
As a pianist, I’ve been using an iPad & ForScore for years now, for music out of print, basically. For writing in a virtual score, I have never found the ease of simply picking up a pencil and writing what needs to be written. Paper is still the best for me.
Thank you for your information in choosing ipad. It is really useful for me to make a right decision. Thanks👍👍
Great review, Thank you!
Thanks, very thoughtful set of considerations. I use ForScore on iPad Pro 12.9 1st gen and that size does make the music very legible, even the scanned music. I need to invest more time in organizing my music but you have to do that regularly with paper anyway. Also sharing pdf’s with online music teachers quickly would also be a big advantage because learning the fiddle there are so many books and online pdfs that the iPad can unify the learning and accessing your repertoire experience. I have not seen a bad review of ForScore on CZcams yet everyone seems to love it and the are lots of bells and whistles to learn. Thanks again
The print outs were very helpful! Thank you!
Very useful and honest info here. Congrats! Right now working in an Ipad 1 it was dusting as garbage, the pandemic made me fill it with pdf but iPad Pro could be a xmas present for this fella writing.
Really helpful and informative, thank you so much.
Thank u so much this video is extremely helpfull
Your sample sheets were super helpful, thanks!
Great video... Very informative, thanks
Great review. Thank you 🎶
Very useful for musicians.Thank you so much!
Thanks for the info on aspect ratio and its importance. Thanks for the info about the cropping function of Forscore.
Josh, thanks for a great video. This was as practical a tutorial as I've seen for any product, ever. The printed out sizes are brilliant!!! Your explanations were clear and concise. For me the cost of the iPad Pro is an issue; but I almost only use charts with lyrics and chords instead of scores. So, I'm waiting to see what the next gen iPad Air is like and then I'll upgrade from a failing Air 2 to (probably) an Air 4 and get into the digital music domain. I have landed on using forScore and I appreciated that you were speaking from that perspective. Your comment at 31:13 about "new stuff" was helpful and oh, so true. :) But, yes, new gear can simply have a cool factor which can actually have a certain inspirational value. Cheers, Cliff
Hey, thanks Cliff, really nice to hear :)
That money == time and energy is an amazing way to look at gear acquisition ...
This is so useful, thanks! Also, "use your face to turn the pages" just gave me a hilarious mental image. :)
:)
Love the iPad but not good for an outside gig on a sunny day.
Very useful video for musicians 👏🏻 .
thank you! this was very informative :-)
Another perspective: chamber music playing with the full score + pedal turner. Page turns are suddenly possible and its a Joy to follow all the other parts in tricky spots. Timesaver.
I have the 2017 12.9inch ipad pro and it works perfectly fine right now hahaha... Those who need a big screen can look into the used market for the 12.9inch. There's really no use to get a new one if you're just using it for sheet music. I use forscore
Thank you!!!!
excellent, thank's
Only one answer to this question, the 12.9 iPad. As a bassist, I use a 1st Gen 12.9 along with iGigBook Sheet Music Manager.
Thank you so much for this very detailed review. It's Dec. 2023 and I'm still using my iPad Air 2 from 2014. It's showing its age now - and basically can only be used for CZcams. Due to the age of this iPad I can't run my music program, OnSong, to store charts anymore. So, I'm in the market for a new iPad. I'm on the fence over size. I could get an equivalent size for $300-$400-ish (refurbished from Apple). Or, go big with the iPad Pro 12.9" - you can also buy the 12.9" iPad from Apple's refurbished stock - but then the price get's up there - coming in around $1000 to $1300-ish. Meanwhile, I've gotten accustom to reading from the A4 size Real Book. So, I find that I'm leaning a lot more toward getting the 12.9" iPad. Anyway, thanks again for your review - this has been very helpful.
Josh: Thanks for explaining this topic to a novice like me as if you were my kind brother-in-law.
Aww, thanks! :)
Thanks, Josh, very comprehensive. If a person’s been playing from printed sheet music, then the first step is to enter it all into the iPad. It’s interesting to me that nobody has mentioned this as an inconvenience. Is the usual procedure to photograph it all? Second, what did you say you put your iPad on when you play (if not the typical music stand)? Thanks again!
Hi Martha, yes, getting the music into digital form can be annoying if you have a large paper collection. You can use a scanner, or the camera on your iPad/smartphone, etc. Of course these days a lot of the time when buying music its already a PDF.
You can use a mic stand in conjunction with an iPad/tablet holder. (For example www.long-mcquade.com/19024/Pro-Audio---Recording/Accessories/Yorkville-Sound/iPad-Tablet-Mic-Stand-Mount.htm ) Searching for "ipad music holder" should turn up some good examples :)
Cheers!
would you recommend an ipad mini 6 for sheet music, i need something that’s really small but i still want to be able to read sheet music
Can't wait for the 14.1-inch iPad, and not even from the "Pro" series, to come out in 2023. Finally a really perfect iPad for working with sheet music. Although, the aspect ratio of the screen is no less important. I wonder what it will be at this diagonal.
has this been announced ?
@@nicovilches8225 Not yet. Rumors say 2023.
I've been on the fence about this. On one hand, I love how easy it is to just use real sheet music and write notes in it with a real pencil; and on the other hand, I also practice music that's hundreds of pages in length for just single compositions that are hours long to play, and it'd be a lot more convenient to have all of it stored on a device instead of wasting all that paper.
Hello Josh I am Ashley and I also play the harp lately I’ve been planning to update my skills and I decided to go technical I got my iPad and now what must I do next?
Wondering how complecated repeats, DC/DS to coda, would be.
Can I use the Fire HD 10 Plus with the For Score app?
Would this be good for lyrics aswell
Great perspective and video. I am just getting acquainted now with ForScore so I don't have "mileage" I can speak to yet, but if you have any other videos that relate screen size and actual experience with the iPad, this would be beneficial. This is what I found missing with this video.
Hmm, I did this earlier video, though that was previous to get my larger iPad: www.harptuesday.com/ep-113-sheet-music-on-tablets-forscoreipad/
I would say, 2 years later, that I LOVE the bigger size of the 12.9 and have zero regrets at upgrading. Definitely worth it if you can afford it in my experience (and consider a gen or two older if prices is an issue).
@@JoshLayne Got it...it is amazing! thanks!
Hi Josh,. Thank you for this video - it was highly informative. I loved your description of finding a piece of music for one student and..."maybe it's in this student's file folder!" I really appreciate the scope of topics (or uses) you covered in your video. Yours in Gratitude
Thanks Wendy!
@@JoshLayne Hello Josh I have never used an iPad Pro and I am going to use it to store all of my sheet music. It would be a library of hundreds of sheet music songs as well as some classical songs from a book. How many gigabyte do you think I can get by with with iPad Pro
Thanks for this video Josh! Have you tried a Samsung Galaxy Tab??? I was considering an iPad pro (mostly for the screen size), but the Samsung Galaxy Tab is just as wide but considerably cheaper, especially for less GB. Just thought I'd put this option out there as well.
I haven't tried it! Does look very attractive, price-wise (much cheaper and pen included, etc.) I believe @Danielle Kuntz uses one, for example (czcams.com/channels/EMGxYM-M0kyGr7agKNy9yA.html)
Thanks for this. One question is what stand are you using? A normal music stand on a specific iPad stand? Also are you using a page turner pedal?
I was wanting to know about the stand also
Currently just using my normal Manhasset music stand. And yes, I use a Donner bluetooth pedal.
Really useful information comparison. Thank you!
Do you do recordings for e projects? We have a Christmas song project in progress and I would love to hear you.
I have been using ipadPro 11 inch 256g for four years and for software use ForScore, too, which I wouldn't want to live without! I also have a bluetooth foot pedal to turn pages. I tried to use it for a zoom meeting a month ago but my screen facing camera died....haha excuse to upgrade, so I am watching your video...do I want 12 inches? I use it for piano and chorus, too. Lol I'm getting old :)
I mean, as long as you can make it fit your budget, I'd say yes, you'll love having the bigger screen... :)
A 13inch ereader would be great if it could be linked to forscore for musicians
they exist and they aren’t cheap
👍🏻 😊
Review … 👏🏼 👏🏼 💻
If all you want is to tread music, just get a cheap Tablet (i.e. not Apple) and a decent music app and probably a foot pedal page turner. If you are going to play games have loads of different high graphic games then maybe consider an iPad. Don't be tempted by loads of features that you will never loose. (Even a second hand Android Tablet would do) most will have touch screens.
Thank you. Wise advice. Horrified if an hour vid would be 64gb shocking
The answer: expensive one!
Thé 12.9 pro because I use mine for all sorts of things. Also my eyesight isn’t the best do the larger screen works for me. Foreshore is the best.
So, I was thinking the best answer here would be to get a used 1st gen iPad Pro 12.9 since the screen size is almost exactly an 8.5" x 11" sheet.
Does that make sense?
Why not just pay 40 to 110 bucks and get a nice flat big digital display that people use as wall hangings or picture frames that just take a thumb drive or as card? Can load music onto the card and then just carry your screen around with the card inside and you can hold millions of sheet music files
My eyes are bad and im using it live, and i need it to work with a turn page pedal, what do i need, im not rich. Hmm, chit, im not gaming, surely there is something out there cheap geez
The only way you can get the biggest screen is not only an apple option.
Screen size matters but the ratio is also very important. Ipads have a good ratio for pdf. For example, the new Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra is 14.6 inch but the ratio is 16/10 so the pdf width is the exact same as the Ipad pro.
What the hell man get to the point
Ok info but too much bs rambling repetition back and forth totally unorganized presentation. Lay off the coffee next time.
While I do see what you mean, particularly as I am unfamiliar with his videos and manner of speaking, there was certainly a more polite way to phrase things! Your rudeness was unnecessary.
Shup up boy..do respect People.
Super useful advice and thanks for these pages! Helps a lot to see the real physical size on the music stand.
I’ve been thinking about getting the iPad Pro 12.9 for a while now. I love printed music but a lot of the music these days is printed on 8.5 x 11 paper. I find that it is a lot easier for me to read sheet music when it is on the large 9x12. I think that the iPad Pro could help with that! I’ve also thought about getting a wide format printer. But I also really want an iPad Pro haha