Organizing for POWER with Jane McAlevey | FACTUALLY podcast
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Adam talks with legendary organizer Jane McAlevey about why organizing is the only way for unions, workers, and activists to win gains, and how to do it in practice. Buy Jane’s books at factuallypod.com/books - Hry
Please have Jane on several more times. She is a rare blend of optimism.and practicality.
"Adam Ruins Capitalism" I am all for it Comrade
He wont ruin anything, Plutocracy is so deeply in-bedded in our government and dictates our everyday lives that if we were to give more power to the people, it would destroy our country. People are so well brainwashed to just accepting the rich having power that its the equivalent of a slave groveling before its master. We have entered such an age of ownership to such a degree that people have unanimous Stockholm syndrome. Plutocracy is as apart of us as we believe democracy is apart of us as the lines between the two is completely melted away.
There is no hope for America, Ticketmaster, East Palastine, every merger the FTC approves, pfizer, Walton family owning the free market, and Amazons insidious consummation of the planets resources and the online market is proof of this.
You will own nothing and be happy. Now smile. Before you get shadow banned.
HELL YEAH
@@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Ever been to Russia? See how they live? Then please sit down. The USA is NOT a democracy. It's a democratic republic. You should have paid more attention in school.
gonna need more than youtube videos to ruin capitalism.
CEOs of monopolies who receive corporate welfare/communism should be referred to as Comrade
If I remember correctly: Labor exists with out capital. Capital cannot exist with out labor. Thus Labor is more important and should take priority over capital. - Aberham Lincoln.
Unfortunately, Abe left Marx unread. -Hasanabi
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More concisely: there is no capital without labor
It takes the owners Labor to aquire capital
This is our first podcast post using this new remote recording setup - let me know how you like it!
It seems great! She's a very enchanting speaker you can just tell she's so knowledgeable I love hearing you both.
Keep doing what you are doing, eventually you might maybe make a dent in the amount of people who love capitalism and grovel before the rich. If you do, then you can move on to the FTC that allows mergers, the supreme court that has ownership of a females uterus, and the president who hates unions and loves to hide the messes of its fellow corporate partners.
But at least you are changing our minds, that's what matters right? You got to tell yourself that every night, otherwise whats the point in even trying?
I don’t love it, but I think it’s a useful tool for when it’s hard for the guest to come to your studio. Or cheaper lol. I get it, but I prefer the vibe when the guest is there in the room with you. Also the sound is better when they’re there. But I’m happy it was done because it was an amazing interview regardless
You know, y'all are interacting dynamically, fluidly, with an active convo style. It works well for me. I like it!
Her kitchen is a pleasant backdrop. Dunno if her lighting is natural...feels like it to me, and looks like a window reflected in her glasses...also working very well.
Good camera and good mic are obvious musts. She's not using a pro mic, but she is clear, and unencumbered by excess echo, so whatever she has works well enough.
Your audio is good, but the video needs some work. Modest lighting for the background helps balance the two views. Right now it feels a bit cavey on your side.
The downward view on you is also distracting, sort of imbalanced against her slightly upward angle. Engaging towards the camera would make your side feel more connected. Similar angle, similar lighting, similar focal area where heads are like sizes, all that makes transition between host and guests feel smoother. Very bright on one side and dark on the other, one close to camera and other further back, all those add up to distractions from the conversation itself. A better balance also puts host and guest on a visual par, which contributes to the feel of a natural conversation.
I'm probably hitting on things an experienced cinematographer and director would know. I am neither, but there are lots of good resources built over the last few years to help everyone from team managers to content creators.
This works for me today. I could see how a future setup might create a problem. Getting in front of that will make this option much more reliable. It might mean sending a guest a good loaner mic and camera to the guest, maybe even a full setup that is packaged to be easy for them to set up and works well for you...but that's spendy.
Keep going! Great content makes the effort worthwhile.
I don't care how you do it. Just keep doing it.
I FUCKING NEEDED THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH ADAM
I am currently organizing a program for my highschool that I'll be graduating from May that aims to give students the resources tools and knowledge they need to know to unionize. this was a godsend. Perfectly timed. I didn't know what I wanted to do or even how I wanted to do it but this episode made the stars align. ❤❤❤
It's inspiring to hear a high schooler talking about this. May you have intelligence, solidarity and compassion in your journey.
Don’t forget to invite your teachers- I’d bet money they’re signing ground rules.
Give 'em hell! With you in spirit all the way!
You're awesome! Good luck!
You kids these days really impress, inspire, and fill me with hope! This is an amazing project you're undertaking. There are going to be people who are going to fight this tooth and nail. Do not relent. Be the stone that shatters them when they crash upon you. Stay strong for your brothers and sisters, and find strength in them too. You got this kid. Give. Them. Fucking. Hell!
I knew about this case. They're essentially arguing for slavery. They're arguing not only that they have a right to your labor, but that you cannot leave your job if they would lose money for leaving. Even people not in unions should be frightened and up in arms.
A company pushing for that doesn't require collective bargaining, it requires collective looting and arson.
Perhaps the race to war with "China" is their way of disguising and turning the US into China. They seem to want us working for less than $1 a day.
A Wisconsin hospital was suing nurses for quitting and their new employers, arguing that they were too essential to leave, just last year
Think about how we've accepted this idea that "You're on the clock" means you have no agency or autonomy. Bakeries are great examples of this. If I get all the orders done, and it's a couple of hours before "my 8 hours", why am I not permitted to just go home? Why is it you always have to "find something for me to do?" I've done my job. I'm going home. You want me to do more, then put it on the list. Don't be surprised that I do my job better than you planned, then expect to exploit that.
Every company needs to understand that we're doing them a *favor* for giving our labor. Your product wouldn't exist without us. Don't believe that? Then do it yourself.
@@claude_in_Cincinnati yeah that is my thoughts on it too, if someone makes something of the same quality in less time there should be an incentive for that quick work instead of what is essentially a punishment because if there isn't you are just incentivizing us to work slower.
You have no idea how helpful this was. I'm in a dead union, I was starting to think unions were pointless. I really needed to hear the things Jane had to say. It's time to take back our union!!!
Me and my coworkers took over our shitty union and made it awesome. DM me if you want to talk about how we did it!
In a union here in the south. Sent out a letter to the members saying that since our contract was up for renegotiation we should demand a raise. And was told by the union steward 'a renegotiation is not the time to ask for a raise'
I wish we had a strong competent union
Maybe..it could be said that applying more pressure to the profiteers could ultimately lead to more procession given to better employees lives in the longterm
Can you push for a change in leadership?
What does "renegotiation" mean? Were you bargaining an entirely new contract? If so, your steward is very wrong. Or was it part of something like a healthcare reopener? If so, your Steward is right.
You can make your union better! My union was absolute shit and I made it better by coming together with my colleagues. Now its fun and we have an awesome contract.
I am in HR and the idea of making something more expensive for a business until they give more wages is a big deal to me. For example It costs 2-3 times the wage of someone to replace them. The two big reasons of why people leave companies are: The company itself (unfair treatment, culture, management etc), and wage.
Think about this... More often than not when an employee asks for a higher wage it is NOT 2-3 times their wage. It is more like 10-15% of their wage. Yet rather than pay 10-15% of a raise to keep someone, companies would rather lose an employee and end up paying 2-3 times more.
What's more is this fact - after about two years of employment in one company an employee is already behind in terms of take home earnings because of inflation. Companies do not give annual adjustments equal to inflation. This puts workers in a situation to either ask for more money from the company or look for a new job. More often than not the company will say "no we cant give you more money" thus forcing a worker to find a new position and incurring that 2-3x hit for the buisness. Talk about expensive for a business!
I'm going to get that book. I'm a teacher, and I want to organize my colleagues better. We have to fight bad admin, district leaders who don't care, and politicians that use us as culture war fodder.
Groomer
@@yemo34 you a nasty little critter.
@@yemo34 You sir, are not helping. Anyone who accuses teacher's defending their rights of being a "groomer" knows NOTHING about CSA. --Signed a CSA survivor.
PS. This is not your lane, get out of it. Our trauma is NOT your weapon.
@@yemo34gross
There is no cultere war, there is only scapegoatism. If a pickpocket wants to nick your wallet, it is easier when you are not actively looking or being preoccupied.
I loved your old show, and love this one even more! We get all of the Adam without the gimmicks, which is a win in my book :)
Seconded!😍🤍
Although the show was easier to share with people with shorter attending spans, lol. This long form, in depth is definitely my personal preference though.
His character on the show is a good, easy way to ease people into at least being sympathetic to left leaning ideas, if not leftism outright. Once you got the hooks in them with that, direct them here to the more in-depth stuff so they can see exactly why we're always angry in their eyes. They might just understand when they learn just how exploited they really are. I don't think a lot of people realize just how bad it all is.
@@ChristopherSadlowski most leftists even haven't ever read the communist manifesto or know the most simplistic definition of historical and dialectical materialism.
Knowing that is the key to unfolding the answer to how things work in a fundamental level and what communism actually means.
You can't disagree with the manisfesto if you're not the one holding the means of production, unless you're straight up a psychopath.
It's basic human decency ffs, it's just being against exploitation by exposing what capitalist propaganda in all levels of society tries to obfuscate
If you read someone the manifesto asking if they agree with those ideas, they might be wary of the seizing the means of production bit, but everything else? Who could ever disagree with that?
The vast majority of people have no clue what communism really is, if they did, they'd be communists.
All they know is propaganda.
Point out the propaganda, the fundamental machinery of capitalism from a dialectical perspective, expose the fundamentals of communism and bob's your uncle.
The culture side of leftism stems from an extension of the basic human decency that is inherent to communism. Once you see how f'd up capitalism is, you become wary of all of its propaganda and you try to think about who that agenda benefits, why it exists, who is feeding the narrative and what else they try to push.
The cultural wars is where the right most invests propaganda-wise, might be harder than just going straight to the point and bringing them to the left's bubble so they're actually exposed to our arguments instead of just fighting strawmans and disregarding everything because of cognitive dissonance
I don't feel like i have the right idea tho, I'd love for someone to give me a better perspective on this
Cuba has been extremely successful in educating its people about it, how do we adapt what it did, to the fake news era?
With all that said, i actually loved your idea
Edit: important to note that these ideas are NOT mutually exclusive. They can and should be done in tandem, both with each other as well as with every other possible strategy.
Ontarian from Canada here; not an education worker but a teacher who watched them strike. What she says is legit; although I really wished they got more of a pay raise. A lot of the EAs were thinking of striking more to get more; but they decided that the kids couldn't handle it much anymore and that the government really couldn't give anymore.
That being said; really inspiring to see and watch. Made me take Unions and their ability to hold those in power accountable a lot more seriously.
I think it was more a case that the govt *wouldn’t* give more. But that’s to be expected from Ford. I was really happy the workers didn’t back down.
As a parent of a kid with an EA, I wish they had. My kid's school employs under-qualified EAs because they can't fill the positions they need with people that have the education to do the job properly. And even then, they have too few positions to meet kids' needs. I felt like they fought until Ford withdrew that legislation, and then they caved. Obviously, I'm seeing things from a far distance, and I don't at all blame workers. It's just so frustrating. Especially with how things are in general in Ontario. Education and health care are dangerously underfunded and cost of living is far outpacing wage growth.
@@MissPlaced84 ya, my kid really needs an EA but they are never going to get one. It’s led to us taking them out of school because we just don’t have the energy or know how to support them the way they need. It’s very frustration.
Union strong. Together we bargain, divided we beg.
Boom!
APE TOGETHER: STRONG!!!
From Canada: "Hospital CEO" always gives me a gag reflex, like what the fuck
Wait until you look up what those hospital CEOs say in shareholder meeting. Worse is Nursing Home CEOs they can take homes from people, force them to sell their homes and give the proceeds to their care. Once they are finally out of all assets then they go on Medicaid where the government will pay. So they rob our patients of their homes and their life savings and then they tell us nurses they can’t afford affordable healthcare plans/ benefits or pay increases. Healthcare plans that will pay 70% of the hospital bills here after $5600 initially cost $1400/month for our family plan.
Agreed!
Pn
It shouldn't exist.
ford in ontario has been trying to make that happen! thank god it just got dismissed
I agree! Life expectancy is decreasing, wealth for the bottom 50% is vanishing, and retirement age is creeping up. Capitalism has failed us. Let's get some AGGRESSIVE unions going ASAP.
If capitalism wasn't a lie, we'd have had the government retirement age slowly moving lower and lower. It's done the opposite.
Don't forget that a union can be infiltrated and corrupted by corporate executives. Union leaders should be in a constant state of audit. Don't think for a second that they have your back. And don't think that you can't kick them if they're not performing.
They can also just become complacent. Unions are meant to be a stop gap, not a permanent solution; the ultimate goal is worker ownership and control of corporations. Unions, at least in the US, have at worst been in cahoots with corporations; at best they've allowed themselves to become emaciated wolves with no teeth and brittle jaws. I'm 100% in support of unionizing efforts, I just hope this new generation of union leaders are more militant and never lose their militancy. The end goal is worker ownership - that's what they need to always be aiming for.
@@aureliusp1330 Up in Canada, some unions have been so militantly anti-government that they'll scrap with ALL of the political spectrum to get what they feel like they need, regardless of what the reality is.
The Hospital and Teaching sectors specifically, but those unions aren't without justification
Yes, though this is a product more of institutionalism, which also needs to be examined in order that we might understand their nature and move to structure them better, and guard against such self serving behavior. But you're correct, I think. They need constant monitoring. They also need to have a rigid set of guidelines to measure their behavior. Not just unions. All institutions. Corporate, political, religious, charitable, judicial, military...all of them. They're beneficial, but their hierarchical and self serving nature tends to make them dangerous.
@@teddychu1177 the government has on more than one occasion taken away labor rights, even with a union, in order to force workers to work without negotiating with them... they literally legislate the union out of existence while they are "negotiating", so it is no wonder that the unions are staunchly anti-government.
You talk like the situation is the fault of the unions. Google the Taft-Hartley Act.
The window for saving the most fundamental rights of the working people in the US is closing, and it is closing fast. Working people should take this challenge like it is a struggle for life or death, because it is. The same goes for the challenge the climate emergency is posing.
The worst part is that it isn't really closing, it is instead funnelling people towards what happened in France 1789.
So then we will have so many deaths and a reset of a lot of systems but it is so unnecessary, if they would just understand the fundamentals about how society works then most of our issues would disappear.
Antifa is the only union that is going to have a chance at improving things, not just playing defense and keeping the badges thugs and their slave masters holding the leash.
@@liamnehren1054 I mean I'm all up for another Robespierre. I don't think I'll survive it if we do get another Robespierre but eh it's probably needed so what's the worst that can happen?
@@triopsate3 yeah my beef with it is that we could create a society that doesn't need the periodic cleansing talked about in Jefferson's famous letter about the blood of heroes and tyrants being the fertilizer of the tree of liberty.
With my skill set I would probably just be in a workshop making weapons during something like the French revolution so I would probably survive but still.
@@liamnehren1054 eh my personal take is that we as a species aren't capable of creating a society that is able to remember the mistakes of the past and learn from it.
There's a reason why there are so many variations of sayings for how people will forget their experiences after the wound heals and it's because humans are a short lived species that has an even shorter memory.
Heck, even something as painful as WWII only really lasted about maybe two generations (the generation that fought the war and maybe their kids) before we have people forgetting about it and supporting actual Nazis again.
Please have her on many more times! Maybe even monthly. She is incredible! I cannot wait to learn more from her!
Just took the course she referenced. It's well worth your time. Everyone in the labor movement should sign up!
Do you have the link for the course? I just tried to find it and haven't yet.
Where is this course?
The cement truck drivers at Glacier NW left the trucks _on,_ with the mixers running, specifically to give management as much time as possible to do something about the concrete in the trucks. They **could have** just shut them off, but they did not.
The company obviously cannot function without the workers if they don't know the basics of the company, turning machinery off or locking doors. Sounds like sabotage or stupidity, which is it management?
The company's managers sent those drivers out full well knowing they were walking later...called their bluff. Piss poor company management.
This too: the specious argument of lost revenue may very well have been brewed up in one of those Koch think tanks.
It is so refreshing to see someone gain influence and use it to become more authentic instead of the reverse. I hope I'm successful enough someday to work with Adam and other people like him of great integrity.
Jane is such a hero! What a great conversation!
This is so timely for me and my colleagues (professors, instructors, adjuncts, etc.) at a university where the administration has informed us that our anticipated 9-month teaching contracts will, instead, be 12-month contracts without any adjustment in salary. It's wild. It's very, very wrong. People are organizing, but Jane McAlevey gives us the guidance we need. Thank you!
I've recently realized how important organization is as direct political action compared to Internet culture war stuff, so thanks for the info. Jane McAlevey is so cool!
Watching from France. Organizing is indeed essential. It's tough but we're not gonna back down, though.
Watching y’all from Texas, and damn. We need to send someone over to do an internship in organizing, solidarity, and general badassery. I’ve wanted a general strike here for 20+ years, and between religion and football, it’s hard to get people to pay attention to what’s being done to them. We suffer daily casualties in this class war, and I don’t know what it’s going to take for us to fight back.
>Organizing is indeed essential. We're not gonna back down though.
Backing down would be not organizing. You *are* organizing even if not via a union. Redundant statements.
I approve this message. ;-)
@@cwtrain I'm not a native English speaker so I'm not sure what you are trying to say. We are organizing to fight our government and the Capitalists they serve. It's tough but we are not going to back down. That's what I meant if it's any clearer.
@@bethmoore7722 I heard UPS is going to strike. There is going to be a school walkout because of the children prison system. I thought some Google employees were going to strike. Heck, Texas gave the second richest man in America (Elon Musk) $60 MILLION just to build a factory here and then he abused the crap out of the construction workers and lied about something that was a requirement for the workers. But yeah, for a bunch of dudes with guns, there is a significant lack of badassery in Texas. But Texas seems to be AGAINST rights and tells everyone that having protection from freezing to death is what pansies want.
Warning bosses! It’s no longer “Adam Ruins Everything.” Now it’s “Adam Fucks Your Shit Up”. Solidarity, comrade. ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
Thank you for your work adam..not all heros wear capes👍
No they all wear capes, just some capes are invisible!
I'm part of an electricians union #349 miami. We have a huge shortage of electricians throughout the whole country. We should be getting better wages and conditions to make the idea of becoming an electrician more appealing. Instead, I when there's a shortage of workers, the unions let the companies get around all of the contract laws just so they don't go non union to get more workers. I feel like our union is weak, I don't know how we get stronger when I feel like this should be the moment that we should be getting stronger.
I think that's my favourite ep you've done so far Adam. Mad appreciation for the causes you're pursuing, you're doing good work.
That is very interesting to know more of the story behind the support workers' strike in Ontario. That was a big deal up here in Canada, and I personally was very surprised at how well that strike went and how quickly the premier backed down. Now I know why!
Jane McAlevey is a damn warrior. We need more McAlevey-trained organizers out in these streets!
When the government keeps bailing on plans for Universal Healthcare, but immediately secured funds and sets up new systems to bail out banks who made bad bets by the billions, you know you live in a system for the rich and not for the people.
UAW Solidarity!!
Aint no WAY would I work in a non-union shop.
Go to the union meetings, get into a couple of committees, take advantage of Labor Studies classes or conferences, be a part of the movement!!!
And congratulations on UAW’s new, fighting leadership. ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
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Loving the new show Adam. Would love to see you come back to Phoenix, AZ!
Adam I’m so glad to have found you again! Keep up the amazing job you’re doing and keep fighting the good fight! Love and prayers for you, your sister and family! 🫶🏻👍👍🙏🫶🏻
Jane is nothing short of being a total BAMF!!! Wishing her and her work well! And thanks to Adam for the great conversation!
My coworkers have recently started our negotiations for our first union CBA. We managed to get nearly 75% of our workers to sign cards, without a outside union drive, in about 2 months. I have shared this video and Jane's website with our negotiation team, and hopefully this helps inspire them and maybe we can get our teams in to see Jane for a seminar!
Jane is such a badass. Thank you for sharing about her Adam
my favorite part is 32:00 lmfao!
i'm only half way through the video and i'm so glad i sat down with this one. SO informative. Thank you both!
Dude I need this women's book
Thanks Adam really thoughtful and important material as normal.
In Illinois, the recent AFSCME standoff against former Governor Rauner was wonderful and nerve wracking to be a part of. It didn't culminate in a strike (but props to Chicago Teachers who did need to) , but rather, the realization to Rauner that 80% of us actually WOULD strike if he forced it. He didn't believe it. Tried to withhold dues paid by employees from the Union (illegally), tried to unilaterally freeze pay, impose a "right" of management to bring in contractors over Union workers at any time, institute mandatory overtime at their discretion, and absolutely gut our healthcare benefits. He used the Illinois budget woes to justify this-all while refusing to pass a budget or pay the state's bills, and ruining the state's credit rating. Finally even the Republicans in the Illinois legislature overrode Rauner's veto to pass a budget and pay bills. Thank goodness we didn't fold. Pritzker put us on track, proved Illinois could be made solvent, all while negotiating a great new contract with the Unions and adding a State Constitutional Amendment to protect Union rights to include healthcare terms in collective bargaining. DON'T BACK DOWN! Change can happen! And after Janus, in Illinois, our Union membership ROSE because people knew it was right not to freeload.
I'm from Ontario and this woman speaks only truth.
This is a really great interview Adam! I'm def. going to buy her book. I hope we can educate more people about these things.
I'm depressed and slept shit today and your show comes up on autoplay 30min after upload. Cool shirt btw !
I can listen to Adam talk for hours. Also, I love that shirt.
This interview was great. Love y’all’s energy
Organizing is crucial, but raising class consciousness is just as important. Thank you for pushing back against the capitalist imperialists, Adam.
My non-specific internet user!
@@andrzejkopalnia yes, comrade
INCREDIBLE guest, thank you so much for this. Really nailing it with the last few.
Adam we need your editorial prowess to turn this into "Explainers"
Great work, It gave me hope, let's organize!
Thank you Adam!
That was an incredibly captivating talk to listen to. Much appreciated 😌. I appreciate what both of you are doing about informing workers about organizing! 🙏✌️🖖
Amazing video, I could listen to Jane Mcalevey talk about unions and her experiences for hours
She was inspirational! I feel like her saying it makes anything possible.. Glad you had her on!
Dayton, OH electrician here. IBEW Local 82. Thanks for this Adam!
I'm so glad folks like Jane exist!
Adam YES take the course! Can't recommend it enough, especially as you move into negotiations.
Excellent show both presentation and questions. Thank you!
Saving this since there are some problems at work with management that wouldn't last an hour, let alone a day doing what we do.
I already took OT101 with the wobblies, but now, the hardest part winning against possible retaliation.
Thank you for making this video! And thank you to your guest❤❤
Adam Conover is quickly becoming my favorite youtuber. This was a fantastic interview!
Such an incredible discussion. Thank you.
Great show, thanks for the wonderful guest and useful information!
France comes on the streets when retirement age is being increased by 2 years. Hardly any Americans came on the streets when NAFTA sent our best jobs to other countries
No one is cumming on my street 🇺🇸
Our retirement age was raised by 5 years
NAFTA didn't send the jobs to other countries. That trend predates NAFTA and the law had no effect on the speed of the trend.
@@VictorMartinez-zf6dt Yeah, outsourcing started in the 1970s.
Weird how you're being pro-labor and nationalist at the same time
Thank you Adam. I started looking for the name of a controversial figure from the mid 1900s who did a lot of advisory work for organizing political/labour/civil protests. It used to be a simple google search. I could not find it anymore. I think he was of Jewish decent. I'm going to have to watch this one again. Very interesting.
Are you thinking of Saul Alinsky(sp?)?
@@dantaniondb Yes, that's the one. Thank you so much. A friend recommended him, and I'd lost track.
I just took her course. I highly recommend it!
As you mentioned the clock ticking down on both fascism and climate disaster, we should heed Lenin's words in What is to be Done? Simple trade unionism is not equipped to handle the class struggle on the level we need nor on the timeline we are forced into. We need a united working class across the country, organized to fight for the end of capitalism. Revolution is the only solution, comrades. Workers of the world, unite!
Lenin was right, democratic centralism/vanguardism made perfect sense in Tsarist Russia, where non-secret organising was impossible. But we don't live in Tsarist Russia, our "freedom" to do mass organising is much wider, and we should use that. Lenin's strategy isn't a universal truth, it was sensible and pragmatic response to a particular situation.
@@domtweed7323 I am forever skeptical of vanguards. Just seems like a way to create a new ruling elite who can hijack the legitimacy of being 'the will of the people'. Seems like that is how it played out in Russia and China both, at least. Assembling new hierarchies seems antithetical to the cause.
So good, I think I'm going to watch it twice
I remember that strike in Ontario. I was so glad to hear them stick it to Ford. That bastard had it coming.
Remote setup was great. I'd love if you came to Seattle.
The idea that so many unions don't tell their members about what is happening in a negotiation is mind boggling. How can you have collective bargaining when only a few people of the group even know what is going on? What if those tippy top members are near retirement and recent studies have changed the understanding of the subject and one of the yournger/newer members of the Union could inform them about a mistake they are making?
It's like we really have learned no lessons from implementations of vanguards in the past. Creating an elite hierarchy to negotiate the interests of labor is no different from being ruled over by executives. Democracy must include everyone, and so everyone must be given transparency and a voice.
Please, do stand up in New England!!! I don't care if it's 3 states over, I would go.
Driving across 3 states in New England is like what, 45 min?
What a firecracker lady! Hats off to her.
Just typed in the URL at work, and it's blocked because of its contents. Gotta love it.
Adam Amplifies Union Power!
Gracias! ✊🏼👍🏼
hey adam! idk if you actually read the comments or not but I just wanted to thank you for this episode.
I think that you should isolate the segment where she talks about the supreme court case with the Teamsters and post it as its own standalone clip video. The message is incredibly important, and I would hate to have it lost within the podcast if people would be open to watching a shorter clip from the podcast.
I am completely overwhelmed by Jane. She was so inspiring to listen to, and helps to dispel the notion that anyone over the age of 50 automatically becomes conservative and right wing lol. I was so inspired by her message and her enthusiasm and drive that I bought both of her books on your website. I can’t wait to read them.
thank you for giving some hope, it’s hard to come by these days. we are so much more powerful when we work together ❤
Great episode, thanks 👍
Yesss!! Love this guest
Liking and commenting for the algorithm. Great video!
Great conversation
This was so helpful
She nails it at the 20 minute mark. The pith here is in the "don't ever" list. Be polite, but dictate. If you want to be successful in negotiating, don't. Today's concessions are tomorrow's expectations.
Great video! Keep it up Adam
I love this woman!
As an elected union official who is active in health and safety and was involved in two negociations, the number one question I hear from members is: why didn't you ask for xyz? As if asking was enough. I do blame gag rules for that misconception. To counteract that, I try to bring as many members with me as I can when meeting with bosses on various committees. When they see how the other side behaves, they realise they need to fight harder. It's also a great way to get those natural leaders - thank you Jane for teaching me that! - interested in getting involved with the union, as well as getting people from under represented factions - temp workers, women, young people, people from minority groups, different job titles, etc - to diversify union participation.
Subscribed. This is more than just writer's rights these are worker's rights. Keep up the good fight.
This is amazing.
More people need to see this and take action - do your part and comment, like, subscribe, all that stuff.
Thank you
I got the audiobook. Hopefully I can help spread and implement what I learn to the labor group.
That was fascinating
Having the Union be able to be engaged in the negotiations and being able to bring those discussions back to the members to vote on is FUNDAMENTAL to Unions and it's the WHOLE FREAKING POINT OF UNIONS!!
I'm so happy I found Adam Conover's page finally. Though I wish your show was still around as I truly wanted to see an Adam Ruins Canada. The image Canadians have about being the nice guys of the world :P Which we aren't lol.
I really wonder what would happen if Jon Stewart called for a general strike. 🤔
Sorry Adam will take my beef else ware. Love the show👍
There's another YT channel that's interviewed her quite a lot, called theAnalysisnews.
Speaking of the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford; early on in the pandemic, he suggested that a safe lockdown activity would be staying at home with the family and baking a cheesecake.
In response, someone called him "Premier Cheesecake," which I thought was pretty funny, because his hair looks like a cheesecake. I just wanted to share that.
It's suddenly VERY important to me that Doug Ford be nationally known as "Premier Cheesecake."
@@itsrosshammond Those who know, know.
@@itsrosshammond We should get some t-shirts made.
31:45 important detail that Jane misspoke: the drivers did *not* turn the trucks off. They very deliberately left the trucks with cement in them running, precisely to prevent this from occurring. It’s unclear whether the owners were unable to do anything about the cement already loaded into trucks due to lack of skillset or personpower, didn’t realize that some of the trucks had cement in them, did something but not quickly enough, thought the cement would keep long enough (so long as the mixers were running) to last through the strike, or, as the union alleges, deliberately turned the trucks off so that they could blame the union for the damaged trucks and lost cement. And we don’t know this in part because the case hasn’t actually been to court, so we don’t actually have an agreed-upon set of facts. And the reason it hasn’t been to court is because the owners are challenging the NLRB’s jurisdiction to adjudicate the strike.
Current law is that the NLRB adjudicates the strike and _if_ the strike is illegal or illegal actions were taken, _then_ the owners can sue the union. If I understand correctly, the owners want it to be that they can sue the union _first_, and the NLRB isn’t allowed to adjudicate the strike either at all, or unless the owners lose their suit.
www.scotusblog.com/2023/01/cement-truck-drivers-went-on-strike-a-lawsuit-by-their-company-may-pave-the-way-for-restricting-workers-rights/
The way she put it in the video actually had me favoring the owners as the way she put it the employees left the trucks with cement in them on purpose. Now the way you out it sounds a lot better.
Now not sure how it should go, but it seems if the employees did do that, then they should face consequences such as wilfull destruction of property but if it was the owners then some sort of fraud.
Shitty thing is we've done this before. More than a few times.
The struggle is eternal.