EP 30 | "Why do churches celebrate Christmas when it is a pagan holiday?" | Doug Batchelor
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- Bible Answers Live with Pastor Doug Batchelor and Pastor Jean Ross, Ep30 (12/03/2023)
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:22 - Start of Program
05:44 - Please explain Acts 23 verse 8? Are there two groups of Pharisees today?
07:47 - Why is the book of Psalms not included in the Torah?
09:06 - Why do churches celebrate Christmas when it is a pagan holiday?
13:14 - What is the reason for the thousand year period mentioned in Revelation 20 verses 4 and 6?
16:31 - Is it true that the apostle Luke never met Jesus personally?
19:55 - What does “being born again” mean practically in John 3 verse 3?
22:28 - Is there a heavenly courtroom where our cases are decided?
26:19 - Should we tithe on social security or other retirement benefits?
31:57 - If Adam and Eve had not sinned what would their life have been like?
33:52 - Is the Book of Mormon comparable to the Bible?
36:22 - Please explain why the word “King” in 1 Peter 2 verse 13 is lowercase in some Bible versions and capitalized in others?
38:07 - When the ark of the covenant was being transported, why did the man die that touched it when it tipped?
41:23 - Are there other ways to pay tithe aside from just giving money?
45:05 - Who is the “He” in 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 7?
47:26 - Was it acceptable for Esther to marry a pagan king?
49:00 - In Leviticus 25 very 46, why did God allow slavery?
52:02 - Is contact sport a sin?
52:52 - What is the difference between “faith in Jesus” vs. the “faith of Jesus”?
55:30 - In Exodus 9 verse 12 it says the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart. Did Pharaoh have a choice?
57:46 - Does Ephesians 4 verse 30 show “once saved always saved”?
58:33 - What did Jesus mean when He said, “First will be last, and the last will be first”?
59:09 - Does God expect us to forgive a person straight away if they hurt us or does forgiving someone take time and is a process?
1:00:03 - Is it possible to actually keep all the Ten Commandments?
Worship God in spirit and in truth. Not when you want or to accommodate.
I just can’t wait to be and live with Jesus
You are going to be Jesus?
Surely you’re trolling.
@@benztech2262be and live with, be with and live with shortened
@@benztech2262 To Be With and Live With Jesus.
YES, WE MUST WORSHIP HIM IN TRUTH AND ONLY
WE MUST CALL SIN BY ITS RIGHTFULLY NAME
CHRISTMAS IS PAGAN
Shabbat Shalom. Let us rejoice in His perfect love during these precious 24 hours of rest. Let us dwell upon His love so powerful that he gave His life so that we may be rescued from our sad mistakes.
I tithe on social security. In God I trust and He has NEVER let me down. Giving back to Him Is a statement of love and trust.
I started tithing when I learned the truth about it in a Bible study.
I took the promise of Malachi 3:8-12 literally with truth.
It say test me in this and I did.
I have been faithful with my tithe and He has been faithful to me.
It all about trust and faith in God and His word and promises.
@@davidpetersen8372the law of tithing was part of the laws for the 12 tribes of Israel. You have to understand the purpose of tithing. Once all th land promised was given out, the Levites did not get any land as they were the priests. Land was used to farm, livestock, vineyards and they were able to eat, trade and survive off the land. The entire purpose of tithing was for Levite survival. No where in the Bible does it say Gentiles are required to tithes. We are strongly encouraged to give. No where in the Bible does Paul require tithing when he preached to the Gentiles. He did ask them to put away money so they would be able to give. Also when the Jews in Israel were struggling the Bible says Paul bought gifts collected from the Gentile...not tithes.
Always from people who don’t tithe 😂
@@LeonTheLion-777 but you have not disputed what I said or show scripture to prove me wrong.
@@LeonTheLion-777 also tithing was a law and Paul when the Hebrew tried to get new Christians to follow their laws Paul said no. Being under the law is a curse. To break one law is to break all laws and we are under Grace. Tithing is one law out of mnay and if you want to be under the law then put yourself under all of their laws and if you give cash its 30% not ten. I can tell the people who have actually studied the Bible for themselves and those that just goes by whatever their pastor says. Read the Bible for yourself. Read Galatians and Colossians.
For awhile I gave up all recognition of Christmas. Then I thought of Christmas as a time for family and a time to open my heart to the needs of others. Although it does not belong in the church as a religious holiday, I am happy using the Christmas season to bring joy to others.
Very similar here. I refused to have anything to do with Christmas for 3 years, then I saw that it is actually a great season to spread the good word of Jesus Christ.
I personally do not celebrate Christmas but because others are so engrained in Christmas I to open my heart to the needs of others; especially the kids. And if the door opens then I share with them how God's plan of salvation is playing out through his Holy Days.
@@ej7431 Perfect.
Christmas fits in perfectly with Christianity as the latter is based on pagan mythology.
@@QuestionThingsUseLogicLogic, Christianity is based on Jesus Christ - God in the flesh, the Creator of this world, sun, moon, and stars in 6 days and rested the 7th.
Jesus is the one who we will have to answer to for these lives he created for us.
How will it be with your soul on that awesome day?
Hallelujah ,praise the Lord God, thank you Jesus.
Please pray for 2 sisters doing our Discover Bible lessons - one is going to have to see if she has lung cancer from smoking. The other sister has a 50 year old daughter who is on meth and homeless and wanting money from us or the church. Please pray for them.
Pray for Ellen a discover Bible study whom I have invited to church
Prayer for georgetta who works every other weekend and she is going to pray about the Sabbath.
Prayer for our church - we are down to 8-20 active members
We just had a prophecy meeting and had about 15 regular attending but none are going to join. One smoked and she isn’t going to give it up. A couple have baptist churches they have been long time members
Very discouraging
Prayer for our small church who are mostly elderly
We pray for you- our church family
Hello dear friend! Thank you so much for reaching out! We would be more than happy to lift up your request in prayer! Remember to keep the Faith, and that with God all things are possible! God Bless,
-The Amazing Facts Team
All the best! Good luck :-)
Friend, remember that God's hand often moves in the darkness. You have had 15 people attending your meetings regularly. That means the Holy Spirit is hard at work in 15 lives, and He may use them to reach many others in ways that you cannot measure. Do not try to count the results of your work in baptisms. If you have given your time and effort faithfully to the Lord, then you may be very sure that its results will be multiplied in eternity. We are the workers in the field, but it is the Lord who is the Lord of the harvest. Press on in prayer, "and let us not be weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not." (Gal. 6:9)
May God bless each one of you, and use you to reach many more souls yet.
If you love only those who love you. WHAT LOVE HAVE YOU.
What about THOU SHALT NOT LIE? OBSERVING CHRISTMAS IS A LIE.
AMEN...IF YOU BREAK ONE COMMANDMENT YOU HAVE BROKEN THEM ALL!!!
Two great fishers of men! Caught this bottom feeder. ❤👑🌎
Amen. Thank You Pastor Doug And Pastor Ross. Please Keep Up The Excellent Work. God Blessing. 🤗🙏
IT'S NOT EXCELLENT
When you worship in a lie.
God warned us in DANIEL 7:25 MAN WILL THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS
Wait ✋️ Sabbath - Saturday to Sunday
Jesus BORN on the Dec 25 ..NO where in the Bible gives a date , WAIT on the Roman Catholic church/POPE Christ-Mass
@@jacquelinesmith739 Nonsense.
So, encouraging. Amen
To me pastor Doug skated around the question on Xmas. The caller stated it was pagan and Doug completely agreed ,but then went on to confirm the origins of it. Romans 14 in context is speaking of eating meat or not eating meat. Sunday keepers use it to justify keeping Sunday. We can’t use the same scripture to justify Xmas. Pastor Doug sums it up by saying if the world is going to keep Xmas we should make the most of it. To me this is a similar mindset to keeping Sunday rather than the biblical sabbath. I love pastor Doug but there’s some things I just don’t agree with.
And that is ok. I have personally never found a pastor I 100% agreed with. Pastor Doug is by far the one pastor I agree with most though.
Amos 5:21-27, Matthew 22, and John 2:2 and 5. In obedience to a mother’s request out of respect and love Jesus attended when called / requested by his Mom. You will find various other feasts that Jesus attended, but note that He was the guest of honor and directed the conversation back to His Heavenly Father.
Absolutely… much respect and love for him
@@williammcleroy558 I agree with you
There is one important difference, I personally believe keeping Xmas won't keep one out of heaven....but the keeping of Sunday will surely keep one out of heaven, if one continues in it, after the Sunday law is passed.
For it is written;
"We ought to obey God rather than man"
ACTS 5:29
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God continue to bless Pastor Batchelor' ministry.
PRAISE GOD!!🔥
I celebrate the birth of our lord and saviour! Anytime you give time to the Lord it is never in vain. God gave us a gift. Remember the gift!
He said REMEMBER the SABBATH and remember his body broken and blood shed
No where does it say to celebrate or remember his birth 🤔, just saying ...
I understand you love him I love Jesus too but I also know he said to follow where he leads , at no time in his ministry did he celebrate his BIRTH DAY ! SO WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THEY SHOULD TODAY ....
BECAUSE OF BABYLONIAN CONFUSION AND PAGAN TRADITIONS...
WAKE UP , SATAN IS A LYER AND DECIVER....HE SEEKS TO ROB AND STEAL AND KILL...IF YOU KEEP TRADITIONS OF MEN HE CAN KILL YOU BECAUSE YOUR SINNING AGAINST GOD COMMITTING IDOLITRY, IDOLITRY IS SIN!!! SIN LEADS TO DEATH....
I like the last question and answer. God bless you Pastors!
ONLY IF THE PASTORS ARE ANSWERING IN TRUTH AND NOT A LIE
My Born Again conscience won't let me celebrate a lie, That Jesus The Christ was born on christmas day.
I agree. If anything He was born about mid October If the 70 week prophecy of Daniel 9 is accurate to the day for His appearing. According to Jewish law a priest/prophet/Nazarite could not begin His public ministry until the age of 30. So Jesus' baptism in Oct 27AD would have to have been on or near His 30th birthday. Of course this puts His birth in the year 4BC, showing an error in our Gregorian calendar....
That’s great but please don’t miss an opportunity to share Christ on that day, some family would only tolerate bible verses witnesses on that day
@@renarich4942 And the world is moving towards Sunday worship. Should we follow what the world wants us to do when they want us to do it?
If Christ Mass is the only day we can reach some people then, by all means, reach them when we can. What I'm saying is do not celebrate the day ourselves as Jesus' birth and limit only that day ourselves for singing carols......
When is the last time you heard any pastor/priest/minister/church leader preach on Christmas that Dec 25th is NOT His real b-day? Should we continue that deception or come out of such traditional errors?
Yes, it's not the day that Christ was born, at the same time, many people go to church to celebrate Christ birth and it's the only time that they will listen or think about Jesus. You can take that opportunity to show them more about Jesus, including about his birth. It's the season of celebrating our greatest GIFT, Jesus our Savior.
@@ahvc6180 Isn't every day a season to celebrate Jesus?
It is a pagan holiday for the winter solstice. It is it is connected to another holiday Christian celebrate Easter, as in Easter bunny. this all has to do with how Rome conquered Greece and adopted mythology, and then when Constantine merged with the Church.
Great series! Thank you 😊
Please pray for my professional situation. Recently I got kicked out of school & work both for poor performance. Thank you in advance!
Hello dear friend! Thank you so much for reaching out! We would be more than happy to lift up your request in prayer! Remember to keep the Faith, and that with God all things are possible! God Bless,
-The Amazing Facts Team
Hi Pastor Doug
I am trying to find the app that you mention
Amazing facts radio
I cannot find it in my app store
I have an Android phone.
Please respond
Thanks.
It is interesting to note that Luke was a gentile, not a Jew. Also a physician who was trained in Alexandria. A great historical novel about him is "Dear and Glorious Physician" by Taylor Caldwell.
as far as christmas is concerned we are warned against these so called holiday celibrations in Deut. 12 especially verses 30 - 32
Amen 🙏🙏
The reason why we celebrate Christmas on December 25 is because after earlier persecution of the Church by Rome/Catholic church then centuries of indoctrination to accept Catholic Holidays has been so engrained that we have accepted the catholic holy days in place of God's holy days. And now we do everything to make excuses for keeping them. Come out of Babylon
That is not correct. Many people in the world are only open to listening about Jesus at this time of year.
@statutesofthelord that is not true. Do you know how many countries have been trying to take the Name christmas? It is a festival, not a christian thing. That is why they say happy holiday.
@@samueljeanlouis8700samuel, Thank you for trying to write in English, but what you wrote is incomprehensible.
The fact remains, this time of year is the only time of year that people in many countries around the world are willing to listen to anything about Jesus Christ.
And they always get a false Jesus
Jimmy it's about prayer the secret place 🙏
You must be Born again Jimmy to see the things of GOD IN SPIRITUAL WAY.....
Yea that Christmas response doesnt really sit well. If Christmas is ok, then sunday would be ok, and Halloween would be ok etc if we are going off esteeming one day over another and so on.
Celebrating the birth of Jesus isn't comparable with Halloween. After all, Jesus came as a babe, a birth celebrated by angels singing, the bright guiding star, shepherds worshiping, Magi bringing special gifts to Him, lived on earth, died FOR OUR SINS, was resurrected and now is our Intercessor in heaven for us.
@@ahvc6180 he wasn’t born on December 25th. Its a pagan holiday. How the day is celebrated is rooted in paganism down to the tree that people put up. Nowhere in the bible does God say to celebrate his birth on this day, which is historically inaccurate.
Amen that’s why we don’t follow men but Jesus
CHRISTMAS IS A TRADITION NOT A BIBLICAL COMMAND.
TRADITION: an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (such as a religious practice or a social custom). (Merriam-Webster)
“These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules. You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”(Mark 7:6-8 NIV)
MAKING CHRISTMAS A BIBLICAL COMMAND IS IDOLATRY.
IDOLATRY: the worship of a physical object as a god. Immoderate attachment or devotion to something. (Merriam-Webster)
IDOLATRY IS A SIN.
“The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; IDOLATRY and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21 NIV)
Well said.
Mark 7: 8-9
You have let go of Yah's commands and are holding on to human traditions. You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of YAHUAH in order to observe your own traditions.
IS IT WRONG TO CELEBRATE JESUS' BIRTHDAY ON DECEMBER 25th?
Since there is no conclusive evidence on what day He was born, we can choose to celebrate it on whatever day we might choose. The fact that a day used for sun worship was chosen is kind of a slap in God's face so to speak. Imagine your husband does not know his own birthday, but you want to celebrate it with him. You tell him that you would like to celebrate it on one of your old boyfriend's birthday because you really just want to forget that you used to celebrate it with him. Your husband would be like 'UH... NO!'
This is what we have done with Christmas. The church purposely chose an old boyfriend's birthday to celebrate the one true God's birthday. It's a slap in the face. Besides that, there is a day that is a whole lot more likely being during the celebration of Sukkot (or Feast of Tabernacles). Think 'God with us'.
Another question i have regarding Christmas is, why do we celebrate Jesus birth on the only day of the year that the Sun God was born on? Ecclesiastes 7 Verse one states otherwise of celebrating birth anyways since the true celebration will be upon death awaiting the second coming of Christ who will give us our glorified bodies! We contradict ourselves celebrating a holiday that was created by Pagans and then adopting said holiday and turning it into a Christian theme, much like what the Catholic church did with Sunday when they adopted said day to conform more with the Pagans to to and evangelize and bring more non-believers into their church. Christmas is an abomination of the highest order no matter how many people try to squeeze the theme of Jesus to it. Jesus does not fit into the world and we need to stop allowing our traditions to cloud over the truth. Why are we celebrating anything the Catholic church agrees with anyway? Especially on the birth of their Sun God!
Excellent points . Of people feel so on inclined to celebrate his birth it would be closer to September or October. But nowhere are we commanded to remember His birthday
@@LeonTheLion-777 It's called feasts of booths in the english..
And why celibate Ester the egg goddest of fertility .... EASTER!
WHY in the Dante's inferno Greek Hell would you NOT celibrate the PassOver lamb, ie YAHshau Messiah ie Jesus Christ....
Passing over us forgiveness of our Sins...
I'm a Seventh Day Adventist, I witnessed with my eyes the church elders and pastor put a xmas tree beside the pulpit, and told the people to put offerings on it, THAT IS NIMROD WORSHIP! So I took it to the Lord in prayer and He told me not to attend church starting from October to January and to not give the church tithe & offerings during those months, give it to the needy on the streets. The bible says don't cut a tree and decorate it with gold & silver and do not follow the customs of the world. The Seventh Day Adventist conference needs to not allow these things within the church, if those who want to practice pagan worship at their own homes so be it, but don't inflect those with it within the church walls. If the conference fixes this I will go to church from Oct - Jan. But they haven't done anything about it yet 2023.
I'm adventist and wouldn't belong to any other church. But celebrating Christmas bothers me. But every holiday is pagen. Including when we celebrate summer holidays. People get drunk and just have another pd day off of work
Not all seven day Adventist put Christmas trees in their churches .
Celebration is okay as long as it is in the correct spirit.
Imo SDA is like any other denomination in that some are more obedient and set apart than others within their denomination.
I don’t think God would ever tell you to don’t give your tithes and to stop going to church.
🙂 Very educated men❣️👍
They are far more ducated than many know!
@@williammcleroy558
👍🙂✌🏼
You forgot the e in educated. but I know what you meant. They have wisdom and understanding. 👍
Proverbs 4:7 “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.”
@@MSB780 Ah yes. I should remember to proof-read. This dingus phone has such small keys I often miss letters or hit the wrong ones. Haha
@@williammcleroy558
Me too 😏 ha!
No.....two men who are desperately clinging to their GC paychecks. Puppets of Wilson who compromise away principles in many many areas.
About Christmas: So if the Bible doesn’t specifically say we shouldn’t celebrate pagan holidays, we can go ahead and do as the heathen and just say we’re doing it for Jesus? My Bible says, “Learn not the way of the heathen” (Jer 10:2). The same verse goes on to refer to the signs of heaven, which the Bible defines as the sun, moon and stars (Luke 21:25). Jeremiah 10 provides the context of the heathen custom of what we know as Christmas today (see verses 3 and 4). I, for one, abjure Christmas and will strive by God’s grace to not be judged and condemned by Matthew 15:9, which says, “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” We, as Christians, should know that the date of death is of greater importance than the day of birth, and should celebrate Christ’s death by surrendering ourselves to Him and dying to sin. “A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one’s birth” (Ecc 7:1).
Whose birthday are we celebrating on Christmas Day , if Jesus was not born on that day ?
Every false sun god.
We are honoring JESUS BIRTH.We don't Know the date.
@@twstephanie50
So it's just by chance that the "birth" date of Ba'al and every other sun god was chosen? LoL....
It's synchronistic worship.
Okay... So next year we will have your birthday party on my birthdate. Everyone at the party will think they are there for you, but I can bask in the glory that they are there on MY date.
See how that works? Lucifer doesn't care WHY your celebrating 12/25. He just likes the fact that you are. And he KNOWS the actual birthdate of Jesus.
@@twstephanie50
I suggest you do some research on the origins of Christmas celebrations.
The reality is that ppl who celebrate Christmas are celebrating the rebirth of the false messiah Nimrod(Gen. 10:8-12).
9:18 WHY DO CHURCHES CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS WHEN ITS A PAGAN HOLIDAY ?
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I learned a lot from your ministry Pastor Doug. I've listened and watched most of your sermons...Glory unto His Name. Thank you so much...
I'm Dewi Ostapko from Pittsburgh.
I remember back in my hometown, East Malaysia, some of the Adventists there do celebrate Christmas, most not. I totally agreed with our Pastors there...they said,
" Adventists who intended to celebrate Christmas only for these reasons ;
1. To remember Jesus's birth, and death for our salvation,
2. To have family gathering without Christmas tree, mistletoe..or anything of Pagan symbolism..
The English term Christmas (“mass on Christ's day”) is of fairly recent origin. The earlier term Yule may have derived from the Germanic jōl or the Anglo-Saxon geōl, which referred to the feast of the winter solstice.
No way. By GOD'S Grace, I will not worship THE ONLY and HOLY ONE in a pagan holiday. Their is no relationship between LIGHT and darkness.
*(WHO) exactly, by name, told u to worship the son of Mary? Thx
If Jesus would have died for just one of us, then it seems logical that Jesus would have died for Eve, had Adam trusted God to make a way so Adam could keep his wife. Matthew 19:6 “So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
however, if the plan of salvation was already in place before sin entered the scene, the Father and His Son, foreknowing everything, knew they would do what they did, which was disobeying a direct command.
Tithe: God has a thousand ways to supply our needs.
Psalm 34:8 “O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.”
Malachi 3:10 “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.”
🙂 Good program ✌🏼
Do your own research and get the history and the origin of 25 dec
Its my 2 years since i dont celebrate xmas me and my. Family after knowing the truth..but my other relatives like my wife family want us to come to them to but bond with us....its that okey?? Or i compromised my beliefs..i need specific answer thank so much..for help😊
fernandez, Please use this wonderful opportunity that Jesus has given you to tell your others about the real Jesus. There is nothing in the Bible or SOP against celebrating Jesus' birth.
If u make your beliefs clear about what you won’t do according to your conscience and Gods leading and stick to what you say, then your family will respect whatever u decide
Reading God's Holy Word. The Holy Spirit open & clarify one's understanding of Our actions according to teachings of Christ while He was here on earth physically. Plus learning to forgive & love others without being judgemental &,even one's enemies. With practicing the love of Christ & not the denomination covers a multitude of sin. Praying frequently for God's strength to walk in the spirit & not in the flesh as the flesh is weak. Them enemy the devil Himself knows this. Be steadfast in the Spirit. Stay blessed.
@@statutesofthelord There is also Nothing in Holy Scriptures telling us to Celebrate HIS birth!! The only time Jesus tells us to do something in REMEMBERANCE of HIM is at the Last Supper Before HIS Crucifixion. The only celebrated birthdays mentioned are those of Herod & Pharoh, both Pagans.
The "gifts" the Magi gave to Jesus*family within 2 years AFTER HIS birth were to Help Pay for their travels*needs to Egypt as they escaped Herod's slaughter of males Under 2 years old. Never again was it mentioned that Jesus celebrated HIS birthday with anyone.
@@bethteer1509So beth, you see no biblical reasons to forbid celebration of Jesus' birth.
That matches my observation too.
God bless you in your study of the Word.
It may surprise you, but Christmas is not a purely Christian holiday! The beginnings of their celebrations date back to pagan times, i.e. a long time before the advent of Christianity. They were celebrated by different cultures and peoples, and gradually evolved into modern holidays, the kind we know and celebrate today.
One of the main pre-Christian holidays that influenced Christmas was Yule, celebrated mainly by peoples in the northern part of Europe. This twelve-day 'festival', during which the people paid homage to the Norse god Frey, was characterized by large feasts featuring roast boar, drinking and the lighting of large fires. Decorating the Yule tree and lighting the Yule log was typical, which was connected with the winter solstice celebrations.
Other holidays that significantly influenced the present-day form of Christmas were the birth of the Greek god Dionysus. The festivities, known as Bacchanalia, were famous for their wild character, lavish feasts, drunkenness and excessive revelry. They were celebrated for 12 days from December 25, when Dionysus was supposed to be born.
Saturnalia belonged to other pre-Christian holidays. The ancient Romans celebrated them for one week every year from December 17 in honor of the god Saturn. It was a period of feasts, gift-giving and a temporary overturning of social norms, when even slaves were for a while considered equal.
As Christianity began to spread through Europe, its leaders adopted and reshaped these existing pagan traditions to facilitate the transition from paganism to Christianity. The decision to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25 was deliberate and aimed to incorporate and Christianize popular pagan customs. Many of the traditions of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, including gift-giving, singing, candle-lighting, feasting, and merrymaking, were gradually incorporated into the traditions of Christmas.
The fact that the Bible itself does not give the exact date of birth of Jesus Christ is also interesting. Some theologians therefore believe that Jesus was born more in the spring, as indicated for example by the references to shepherds tending sheep in the story of his birth. It was not until the 4th century that Western Christian churches decided to celebrate Christmas on December 25. This allows them to incorporate the holiday into the celebration of Saturnalia and other popular pagan winter traditions.
Today's modern Christmas is thus a mixture of various cultural influences rooted in ancient pagan celebrations and customs
Jeremiah 31:33-34
*Earning money is an action. Keeping money is a behavior, but “Making money grow is wisdom” I heard this from someone ☺*
That depends on how are you making money grow. If you are disobeying the Word of God to make money grow that is folishness and not wisdom.
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. (1 Timothy 6:10 NKJV)
BLESSINGS THAT COME FROM GOD ARE THE FRUIT OF OBEDIENCE.
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it-not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it-they will be blessed in what they do. (James 1:22-25 NIV)
AMEN & AMEN ! !
Christmas is a day set aside to remember the birth of Christ and sense we don't know the actual date December 25th was chosen. Is it better for the world to take a day to remember and give thanks for the birth of God's only begotten son who by His death and resurrection gives forgiveness of sins and eternal life to all who believe through faith or not at all.
Then why take the 25th of December? Why the day they used to celebrate the sun? If we can choose whatever day we want to remember this wonderful moment, then choose a different that doesn't have any relationship with pagan God, and I will be glad to celebrate it.
@samueljeanlouis8700 Satan has taken many days so taking one back for God I just don't see the problem.
It’s the same mentality behind keeping our chosen sabbath rather than Gods chosen day. Satan is very crafty
Actually scripture warns us about participating in these days in many verses. Matthew 15:3,9 Mark 7:7-13 Galatians 4:10 Christians are to be set apart from this world and remember the true biblical holy days instead of man made traditions which is worshipping him in vain.
@peterpann9619 Let me see. You want to take something from the devil to give it to GOD, THE HOLY ONE. GOD is seating on HIS THRONE, WHO nobody can see HIS FACE, and you think that we can tell HIM this a pagean feast, we decide that it is holy and YOU have to accept it because we make it holy. Then why we can't do the same with the Sunday sabbath? I know that it is not from you, but we decided to change your day to the day of sun worship?
2:9 He made all kinds of beautiful TREES there and produce good fruit. In the middle of the garden STOOD THE TREE THAT GIVES LIFE and the TREE GIVES KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IT BAD. MARY MOTHER JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH.
Blasphemy! Repent sinner
The entire church is and has been upside down on a lot of issues not just the keeping of Pagan traditions. The entire SDA in America is ordaining women to Elder and Deaconship despite what scripture states. Compromise has been the way of the church since Constantine we must stick to the scripture and speak truth in love and warn others of these deceptions. There are no perfect people so expect to be let down by them, even pastors. We are called to be a peculiar people not compromise with the traditions of men!
AMEN
Its called "A comprise s Christian
There are some practices that are pagan practices that we also do. Also Christ birth and it's great humility and love for us is the center of the celebration not gods from other beliefs.
Also check out psalm 84:11, and malachi 4:2
The sun🌞 of righteousness
Can you find a command in Scripture that tells us to commemorate Christ's birth or an example of the Apostles doing it? Also, why this specific time of year to celebrate His birth?
Jeremiah 10:1-6
everyone quotes this. The pastor explains it in a video 4 years ago. It has nothing to do with the christmas tree. No one uses the christmas tree and an idol. stop it.
@@Donnie67654 You must be a rock cause if you can't understand that you got to be a rock
@@Donnie67654 Then tell me what it mean rock
Is it not Christ-mas? As with most things in the world, they are of the world, not of God. Lets honor the birth of Jesus, in a season that the world has commercialized, and de- sanctified. Yes, the gift giving is symbolic of those things left at the crib of baby Jesus by the 'wise men'.. they were honoring his birth as our saviour. Let us give thanks to Him in this and every Christ-mas season for His sacrifice on the cross. Amen!
You would not want the gift our lord received. It was for his burial...
All roads lead to (pagan) Rome.
@@LeonTheLion-777All pagan Holy days lead to the idol.
The son of Mary is the common idol in Christmas, Easter, and Sunday worship.
You not just answer the callers questions, you always have further information for the then, (a free book). Good job 👏.
It could be by coincidence, but I celebrate the day he rose from the dead. On the first day of the week.
❤❤❤ Bonsoir Pasteur Je regrette que nous n' ayons pas en français votre exposé . c'est vraiment dommage car je ne comprends pas tout gekas. d' autres frères et soeurs de par le monde sont comme moi. y a t'il il un moyen de pouvoir suivre vos exposés en français. merci a vous et que notre Seigneur vous accompagne dans sa Grâce. Fraternellement de France sud.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Amen!
I don't mean. To call him. False but dang brother if u are going to preach preach full truth because you LOVE GOD !! PREACH FULL SOUND TRUTH ......don't water down things because you are afraid to offend or lose money 💰!!!!!!!!😢
I want to know about the feast. The feast of the creator that's what I want to know. Why does the church not keep the feast when they are too all generations forever
Every feast had a meaning directing to Jesus's death on the cross so all of them where ceremonial laws which were nailed to the cross simply because Jesus's fulfilled all of them
@christineruth5425 wrong there forever to all generations
Read your Bible they will be kept in the New Jerusalem 🙏 as well AZ the SABBATH and the 10 COMMANDMENTS
james, you ask a very important question that no SDA leader can rightly answer.
Was Jesus our perfect example, or wasn't he? He certainly did keep the Passover!
@statutesofthelord that's right he did , and I believe we are to keep the FEASTS, they will be kept in the New Jerusalem ZION
Wrong. Ceremonial laws and feasts are two different subjects . You lack understanding
the rule of GOD over our lives. the
HOLY SPIRIT teaches us, guides us, chastises us, protects, provides and we Fear Jesus, not this worlds nor its churches. remember, they worship a different jesus. 😢😮
My Church (The Body of Christ) celebrates the birth of Christ, not a "holiday".
Would that be on December 25th ?
We're to have no part of pagan man made traditional ceremonys this 8s heathinizm
Pagan's Nature is the Bible Creator and Recyclor of Eternal life 🐝
EGW did not celebrate X-mas. One should read all of her writing during this time and understand the language and context. Also, knowone should tell a person that their decision is incorrect when it is a conviction of the heart. X-mas and any other festivities during Halloween, X-Mas, New Year’s celebration of our churches is nothing but worshipping death. I will not have any part of this. So tired of many unconverted or unstudied SDA people telling us to use this time to reach people. Well, that’s already a given because it’s something done all year. It’s something that really should not have to be mentioned. It’s only people that want to have an excuse to celebrate in some form. Celebrate by caroling, gift wrapping, drinking coffee, have a tree, whatever that tickles you; it’s all a deception.
What is celebrating Christmas? So many families are not celebrating but - are happy to have the time off, eat with their families, give presents to their kids, but they don't have a tree or tinsel. They don't sing carols or bring gifts to the homless. Is that what its all about? new Year is celebrating death? please explain,as I have never heard this before. And what about birthdays or anniversaries?
Amen
GOD said some will hear and others want..
It's a lie and it's Pagan
To all Christians who are feeling guilty because they feel they can not afford ten percent tithe, do nor feel guilty. Give what you can. Listen to what Jesus tells his deciples in the book of Mark chapter 12:42-44. It about the poor widow that went into the temple and gave all that she had two small coins. Read what Jesus says about the poor widow, and about those who had more to give. Jesus also tells us that what you do for the least of these you do for me. So if you are in a situation where you can't give money, care for the sick, feed the hungry, give clothes to those that are in need. Comfort someone who is depressed and sad. Spread the gospel to help to others who need to hear the word of God, to comfort and encourage them.
If you don't tithe, you are disobeying God.
To who do the people tithe? What are people to tithe? Is there a single verse where tithing is money that can be found in the scriptures?
@@lammy6067 lamar, Deuteronomy 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; [or] if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn [it] into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
27 And the Levite that [is] within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
While this shows that it is fine to pay tithe with money, it isn't very clear if this is the normal tithe of the increase, or some special "3-year" tithe. You will also see that the Levite is to be taken care of, and as all the priests are from the tribe of Levi, it is clear that they are the ones who are to receive the tithes.
@@statutesofthelordwell this actually didn’t say money is acceptable as tithe. It shows you that money was in existence but Father did not ask for it. Instead he told you if the crops and animals are too much change it for money and when you reach Jerusalem change back the money and buy all the crops and animals you desire to eat before him. He could have said when you sell your crops or animals give me a tenth of the money. He is more interested in the increase of the land. If you want to tithe, whatever animal you have or fruit the trees bring forth offers that. Father has no desire for man’s money. And yes we tithe to the levites who were not given land to rear or sow animals or crops. Their job was to offer sacrifices on your behalf and to carry the Ark etc. who are the levites now to whom we should tithe? They work on our behalf. If a man does not work he should not eat and Paul labored with his hands that he should not be dependent on others. Can he reap from our income as he has sown spiritual? Yes!! But not according to obligation but out of our love and to see that what they have imparted is greater than money. Why is it you do not keep the whole law but keep the law of tithing? There are a different tithes in the Bible do you do them all? If you have a personal helper or gardener do you let them free in the year of Jubilee? Do you keep the day of atonement to fast? Why do you choose two aspect of the law to keep (assuming you don’t eat unclean food) and neglect the other 600 ? If Messiah be our high priest let us tithe to Him as we are all brethren and though some are apostles, deacons etc we are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people. what we ought to do now is care for the poor, the orphans the widow. Give 20% if that is what you want, give cheerfully and not according to obligation. And i say this with the utmost humility. Men may lie but scripture will not. I pray that we who truly believe and love the Father and our Messiah will be in one truth. I hope I wasn’t too long. May the grace of our Father through our Messiah bless you and your family abundantly and all who are of the household of faith.
@@lammy6067lamar, I showed you exactly in the Bible where tithe is accepted in the form of money.
Please believe the Holy Bible.
Why do Christians likewise celebrate Easter, a pagan holiday.
So The Messiah was born sometime in April. So why celebrate in December. Having pondered this much I think it is better to celebrate Christ's birth once a year than not at all. The devil has hijacked Halloween. Use the oppertunity to talk of the miracle of Christ born of Mary.
Best case it is synchronistic worship. And how did that work out for the Israelites when Moses came down from the mountain?
It is a wonderful time of year to spread the good news of Jesus Christ' birth.
@@statutesofthelord
You need a special time of year for that?
And the good news is His resurrection.
@@my1vicevice, Please go to Vietnam or China and spread the gospel of Christ in a work setting.
You will most likely get kicked out of the country 11 months of the year if you try that.
Instead of focusing on your feelings, why not use this wonderful time of year to spread the good news of Jesus' birth?
@@statutesofthelord
I won't stand in the way of your Ba'al worship.....
Good luck explaining it.
@@my1vicevice, please repent of your selfishness and worldliness.
Jesus is coming soon, let's be ready ourselves, and help others get ready too.
Does pastor doug celebrate christmas?😊
You know it .. EGW gives them the green light
@@LeonTheLion-777 ehhh wrong
MOST SDA DO
WATCH PASTOR ANDREW HENRIQUES ON CHRISTMAS
THIS SABBATH HIS SERMON WAS ON POINT AND RED HOT ...AMEN
WE MORE OF GODS PEOPLE TO STAND
AMEN
EGW: “Shall We Have a Christmas Tree?”-God would be well pleased if on Christmas each church would have a Christmas tree on which shall be hung offerings, great and small, for these houses of worship. [Note: Reference is made in this article to current building projects. As the principles set forth in this connection are applicable today, these specific references are left in the article.] Letters of inquiry have come to us asking, Shall we have a Christmas tree? Will it not be like the world? We answer, You can make it like the world if you have a disposition to do so, or you can make it as unlike the world as possible. There is no particular sin in selecting a fragrant evergreen and placing it in our churches, but the sin lies in the motive which prompts to action and the use which is made of the gifts placed upon the tree. . AH 482.1
Updated 12/16/23. This quote from EGW was posted to for two reasons. 1. To show the SDA member who complained about a Christmas tree being put in their gathering place and the pastor asking them to put gifts on it. That the teaching came for EGW. 2. To show why Doug skated around the question about Christmas. He would be going against the SDA prophet EGW, whose teaching they follow. I am not a SDA and do not endorse any of their teaching as some of the SDA,S teaching are not Biblical. When you mix truth with error, you have error.
No need to put it in God’s house because it’s paganism.
maurice, very good quote. God bless you, and let's praise God for giving us a very sensible prophetess.
@@statutesofthelord HI, the purpose of post was to show that EGW said it was okay, I’m am not SDA and do not follow the SDA teachings as some of EGW statements can not be found in the Bible.
@@mauricethomas7090like what ? Which quotes cannot be substantiated in the bible
@@statutesofthelordRead Jeremiah 35
36:57
When used as a noun, king should be capitalized. Otherwise, it is lowercase.
The only use of the word king is as a noun...
Conform to the world or comprised with the world.
Although we are not sure of the time of Jesus's Birth,we know He was born.The Scriptures stated that very
Clearly!
So let us give thanks,and Honour the Birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus
Christ!
We don't have to follow all the Christmas Rituals. Exchanging gifts
With our freinds and family is not sinful! However, sincerely giving ourselves to God is what we need to do. The giving of ourselves to God is what He desired most.
Could smoking be a thorn in the flesh? I have been smoking drugs for 52 years off and on? Isiah chapter 50 verse 11 ?
I don’t think it is because it’s an active choice for you to smoke and you are willingly harming yourself. I believe a thorn in the flesh is something like a disease or a disability or something that God keeps on you to keep you close to him. I believe a thorn is when you stop sinning or if something happened to you, at no fault of your own to remind you that you need Jesus. I may be wrong. Ask Jesus, but I would stop using drugs.
Yes brother, your body is a temple of the father
Friend, I'm not sure how you might think that Isaiah 50:11 applies to your case. Verse 10 promises that those who serve God will have "light" from Him; while others, who seek to be righteous through their own works will "walk in the light" of the "sparks they have kindled." That is, they will not receive light or help from God, but will have only the imaginary comfort of their own invented righteousness.
Unfortunately, the condition you describe is not really an example of the "thorn in the flesh" of 2 Corinthians 12:7, either. God allowed Paul to suffer bodily infirmities so that in his weakness, he would not forget to rely on God's strength.
Your 52 years of addiction are neither a weakness permitted by God for your good, nor are they a sign that He has abandoned you to your sins (which I can only deduce that you may have been thinking, from the verse you cited).
God does have power to deliver you from smoking and the abuse of drugs, and He wants to do so. But you in your turn must claim His power against these habits. Your will in these things is very weak. When the temptation comes to smoke, you would rather smoke than pray for help not to smoke. You would rather pick up the drug than pray for strength and battle the painful craving. You rationalize what you want to do, and turn away from seeking God's power. But if you want the victory, you will have to pray for God to take the heart that you cannot give Him, and then, you will have to painfully sacrifice what you WANT to do, with hard prayer. Satan cannot force you to put your hand to the drug, but he can make you feel as if you were dying when you do not touch it. Christ has the power for you to claim the victory: but it will not be easy or pleasant. For a time, it will be very painful. It may indeed feel like dying.
But, "we are debtors--not to the flesh, to live after the flesh [that is, to follow the impulses and desires of sinful nature]. For if you live after the flesh, you will die, but if you put to death the body [that is, sinful desires], you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:12-14)
God has hope for you, and plans for you, and He is ready to help you, starting right now.
@@jenbr.4073 I think you are right, very good answer for me to read and do you have an answer to Jesus reply about eunuchs in chapter 19 of the gospel of Matthew?
Do I dare ask you for any questions more? The answer you have is all I need.
Sanfransisco not the other?
It is believed Jesus was born around the Feast of the Tabernacles which is September/October. If we go back nine months from here where are we??? And when DOES life begin???
We need to remember how Jesus came into this world.
If we stop celebrating Christmas we could stop reading scriptures associated with Christmas. You cannot take away from God's Word!!!
the spirit of prophecy said meat is not good to be eat what about the forbiden and permited foods in leviticus 11:1-12?
Where is this in bible about spirit of prophecy and meat??
God permitted humans to eat meat after the Flood. Genesis 9:3,4 says: “Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. Just as I gave you the green vegetation, I give them all to you. Only flesh with its life-its blood -you must not eat.”
When God’s people were under the Law covenant, they were forbidden to eat certain foods. After Jesus death, the Law ended. Romans 10:4: “For Christ is the end of the Law.”
We can eat what we like as long as it doesn’t contain blood.
Partly true .. we can eat what we want as long as it does not contain blood and is in accordance with Leviticus. God has never changed the anatomy of a pig
i think inthe time of old testament slavery was not what we think it is ....then slave was everyone who did not own any trade ....everyone who had to work for someone was caled ,,slave'' but those slaves were payed money, most of them were acomodated with living space and fed.
actually we now are slaves too- to our bosses ...
the slavery from OT was totally different from the slavery in USA and in arab countries.
@11:47 the quote about Romans 14 is woefully misleading people to think that Torah commands are nullified. We ought to be extremely cautious about that. In order that the rest of Paul's epistles are in harmony with one another, we cannot conclude that he is referring to God's appointed times or His commands about what is food (and what is not). A clue to the context of the chapter is given in verses 1 and 2 when he mentioned that some people eat everything while some only eat vegetables with the opinions that one way is better than the other. It was not a matter of whether God had retracted what He had previously stated about what to eat. God had not said that all meat is prohibited, so we must conclude that Paul is not addressing an issue of whether certain animals are clean or unclean.
That is often a mistake that modern Christians make. They breeze through these letters without paying attention to the context. The context here in Romans 14 appears to be pointing to a belief that those who only eat vegetables are more holy than people who eat every "food" (not every "thing"). For it is not a matter of obedience when talking about eating something that is not food, such as pork or shellfish or lizards or rabbits. These "things" were never considered to be food.
Likewise, the observance of a "certain day" is not referring to an appointed day such as Sabbath, new moon, or annual appointments. But rather is probably talking about another day most likely related to which day is appropriate for fasting or something to that effect.
If you care to look into this further, consider the word that Paul used in Greek for what is unfortunately usually translated as "unclean". The Greek language is very much more descriptive than modern English. The word "koinos" does not mean "unclean" as we think of certain animals as being. That word is "akathartos". "Koinos" means "common".
By example, when the disciples ate without washing their hands, it was considered "koinos" or "common" in Mark 7. There was no command given in the Bible to wash hands before eating. It did not make them "akathartos" (unclean). Jesus addressed that when He told the Pharisees that they had a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in favor of human tradition.
Another example of where these two words are used is in Acts 10 when Peter had his vision of animals. The use of the word "koinos" referring to Gentiles never meant that they were unacceptable to God. Any Gentile celebrating Passover and Sabbath were to be considered as ones born in the land (Israelites). However, akathartos is used in reference to the unclean animals. God makes the distinction and sets things right with Peter. He never said that the unclean animals were now considered acceptable as food. Likewise, verse 28 mentions that it was "unlawful" for Jews to associate with Gentiles. However, that law was not from Torah. It was a manmade law. It was a "common" law - not a divine instruction.
Because the word “Christmas” has for the root word “Christ”. That is why.
You should be MORE concerned about the last part of the word .........'MAS' which is Roman Catholic of crucifying the Lord over and over and over. PAGAN BLASHPHEMOUS RITUALISM.
What does the mas mean in the word Christmas?
Roman Catholic mass
Christmas as well as other Christian events and holidays are here to stay. These can not be changed so just simply follow where your heart and faith take you.
Just like thousands of protestant churces all over the world, they are not in unity and never agree with each other. Certainly something is not right and yet we keep dividing and multipying. One thing for sure is Christianity will never agree with each other!
Why does many SDA's acknowledge Christmas. I am so broken hearted at my church.Looks like a Macy's parade.
Jesus clearly.stated in written that we celebrate is death & resurrection. His birth is through God out His unconditional love is a 2nd chance for us to repent & redeem our life as we all owe God our life to restore our souls for eternity. Heaven is real also Hell is real. Where does one want spend eternity?
Dear brother Doug, did God forgive you without repenting?
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Which you are not finding at this church or pastor.
@@City-Bisquits I am an excumicated Catholic and I have never belonged to any church I am an eunuch. I have always loved Jesus and the Seventh Day Adventist church is not the not the only saved people. Get off your high horse and stop judging what you don't understand. I have never bowed to the pope. I have been raped from the time I was born. Good day.
@@City-Bisquits where were you when I was being raped???????
Get off your high horse and stop judging what you don't understand. good day.
It is time for us to trim our lamps for the Bridegroom is coming, will He find faith on the earth?
Why should we celebrate our birthday and not the birth of Jesus? Is our birthday more important than our Lord's? Thank God there are people who celebrate Christmas as the birth of Jesus instead of the coming of Santa Claus.
IT'S NOT JESUS CHRIST BIRTHDAY "DEC 25 again is not his birthday." IT'S A LIE...
I think Christians should just follow the bible and the bible only. The bible talks of sabbath keeping it holy,the Lords supper,baptism and believing in Jesus !
But romans 14 was specifically about food and fasting, you cannot use it to mix God and pagan customs, i watched doug saying that in a sabbath debate that the context was in romans 14 about food and wich day you fast, so doug is going against his own teaching.
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Romans 14:5-6
Pastor Dough , just tell the truth , these are pagan things, stop skirting the issue , anything pagan Christian's should not partake of it!!
You said pastor “dough” and I immediately thought of soft dough 😂 Doug got soft on this issue
PASTOR DOUG AND PASTOR ROSS
IT'S SAD THAT SO MANY PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU
ON THIS POINT YOU ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO WORSHIP IN VAIN AND TRUTH
YOU KNOW XMAS IS PAGAN AND PAGAN
Correction IN VAIN and not Truth
Spiritual things are seen through the HOLY SPIRIT
JIMMY
they didn't answer question because the CHURCH AND MANY IN IT HAVEN'T BEEEN TRULY CONVERTED
NOT BORN FROM ABOVE !!!
IT SAYS IN LAST DAYS THEY HAVE AFORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENY THE POWER OF GOD....
YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN- JIMMY TO SEE THE THRONE ROOM OF GOD ALMIGHTY 🙌
BORN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
JIMMY
@jameshazel1858 Yes Amen everyone is not born again they cannot discern things of the spirit.
Your audio is way to low.. Love your show..God Bless both of you..
I noticed low audio myself.
Love the program each night, I always appreciate Doug and Ross. Please turn up the volume.
Might be an issue on your end. Plenty loud for me.
It is low and I have said so before.
Remember a church is NOT HOLY, the BIBLE IS HOLY. The CHURCH MUST ADHERE TO THE BIBLE'S STANDARD! If it doesn't then it must face GOD! In the bible it says not to decorate a tree with gold and silver, because it is a BAAL IDOL. It is breaking one of the ten commandments of GOD! The ones that run the Seventh Day Adventist church will not address this until they start losing tithe and offerings from doing this. Follow GOD not a lost Shepherd!
Actually scripture does warn about participating in these days in many verses. Matthew 15;3,9 Mark 7;6-13. Galatians 4:10. Christians are to be set apart from this world and remember the true biblical holy days instead of man made traditions which is worshipping him in vain.
Be honest. You are concerned you will be lumped together with Jehovahs witnesses…. At least they are more honest ring of Yeshua than SDA in this regard.
No. They accept the Christmas gifts. They just chuck the paper away and take all the gifts.
It is the HOLY SPIRIT who works in us for the conversion of souls. We don't need to wait a pagan holiday to talk about GOD.
I am Samuel's wife. Why do we think it is ok to transfer a pagan feast to GOD? Can we bring a strange fire to the temple? Can we take pagan music, change the words and say it is for GOD? CHRIST died on the cross because the cross represented sin, shame. HE took the shame and gave us HIS Glory. What is there in a pagan feast that can glorify GOD? We talk about sun worship, but we forget that christmas is also a form of sun worship. It is the same thing the catholic church did again. They took all the pagan statues and gave them the name of the disciples of CHRIST so that people can worship them, thinking they are real. I was a catholic, and I know all the pagan ceremonies behind it. Even if EGW said this was alright, but I stand on Jeremiah 35.
They claim to feel it necessary to partake in the “holiday season” which is an oxymoron. They are compromising to satisfy the heart of the majority who follow the beast, while claiming to be followers of Christ.
They also believe the mark of the beast is Sunday worship . Another deception
It doesn’t matter what you say. I’m enjoying Christmas which is proof it isn’t pegan
Go do some research. You can still decide to celebrate it. It is your right but, don't say it is not a pagean feast.
So because YOU celebrate Xmas it’s not pagan ? Bahahaha 😂
Hey I got a better idea .. Dig into the gospels and find out which day the apostles celebrated Jesus’ birth 😂
My people perish for lack of knowledge
MERRY CHRISTMAS ❤
KJV Acts 5:29
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
OBEY GOD NOT MERE MORTALS WHOSE LIFE ARE JUST VAPOURS.
KJV Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Yes do as the world does celebrate the sun God and say that its for the Lord. Lukewarm behaviour, the scriptures say sanctify them by thy truth thy word is true, if you know the truth why celebrate Christmas when it originally has nothing to do with him, can you repackage evil and offer it to God??? Lord forgive them for they know not what they do!
They want to satisfy the flock, many of them being Jesuit infiltrators. I appreciate the SOP, however, on that I believe her statement is taking out of context.
Thorn in the flesh?
Nothing is pagan unless you do it for that purpose. Merry Christmas everyone and keep acknowledging the greatest gift to mankind, Jesus Christ. What Doug should be concerned about is the false teachings he has been promoting for decades under the SDA.
Agreed and Xmas is part of that false teaching
MERRY CHRISTMAS ❤
I'm not into Christmas decorations and trees but my wife is and I don't think it is something to argue over. I'm happy to accommodate her and she is a blessing to me. Happy wife, happy life... But honestly Christmas is not salvational and this rigidity on the part of some is sad and it causes friction... 😢
Anything worldly can be salvational. Every compromise against the heart can lead to sin, which is a transgression of the law. Look at the bigger picture. One does not need to argue, but they can be a silent witness and no be part of it. Everything in God’s time with your spouse.
What we should not try to do as christians is to attach jesus in any way to the celebration of chrismas its tradition and its not biblical its funny the day the world should remember and honour and celebrate they forget and dishonor but men came up with pagan holiday to celebrate an idol and a pagan god but hey its Christmas lets just enjoy the season of giving i no longer celebrate Christmas i just see it as a normal day and hey santan is actually spelt satan
Agreed … does no one find it odd that the whole world celebrates Xmas? It’s a false Christ celebration . Pagan to the core
Satan = santa ciaus= claws
The excuses made to justify believers in Yeshua celebrating Xmas as his b-day is so wrong. He clearly said we are not to take on pagan traditions and make them our own. And he NEVER CHANGED HIS MIND. God is not a respector of persons. He doesn't care that we try and make it Christian, he said not to do that in the first place. But here you go, more bad information from people that others think know the word of God. These men clearly don't, excuses excuses excuses to keep offending Jesus and make everyone think it's alright.
MERRY CHRISTMAS ❤
What tones of anger are heard in so many of these comments.