Knicks vs. 76ers Epic Conclusion + Pacers ELIMINATE Bucks | The Hoop Collective
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- Knicks vs. 76ers Epic Conclusion + Pacers ELIMINATE Bucks | The Hoop Collective
Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN’s Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to react to the huge win for the Knicks in the 1st Round over Philadelphia, where the 76ers go from here, the Pacers boat racing the Bucks, what Milwaukee can do now and the Mavs dominating win over the Clippers.
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0:00 Intro
1:27 Knicks Clutch Series Win Over 76ers
16:10 Where Do The 76ers Go From Here?
31:05 Pacers Eliminate Bucks
43:33 TRIVIA
46:02 Mavs Look Like the Better Team
57:07 Thanks For Watching!
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JB is him...I pulled an allnighter in France to watch the Knicks and see JB make history, tired but wouldn't have missed that game for anything. NY STAND UP -LETS GO KNICKS - Salute & Peace
Calm down young man you made it out of R1 against Embiid with a bummed knee
@@brightBosscope
@@brightBoss Sorry, but Sixers failed to beat a Knicks squad without Randle, and a handful of guys who have been dismissed their entire careers. This team is All Grit, Tight Knit, with No Quit. BTW, appreciate that you think I'm young, I tell myself that I am but Gen Z and Gen Alpha remind me that I'm not. Diehard NY sports fan whose lived through the pain of this franchise for too long to let losers make excuses instead of giving credit where credit is due. Salute & Peace
@@verified.my2cents lmao Randle? That dude literally was the worst playoff starter in the past 2 playoffs
@@brightBoss I'm not defending Randle, 1st to attack his playoff no shows as a Knick fan, but the man was our 1A before JB and would be our 1B you can't ignore what missing 24 and 9 a night does to a team. Then we had to overcome Mitch and OG being out. This squad earned that historic night and JB was hsitoric, despite your whining about Embid (who I respect btw). Listen to this video from 25:10 ro 26:00, the 3 of them say nothing but facts. BTW when I say Jalen Brunson madeHISTORY: 167 points in last 4 games w/ at least 39 ppg, 1st since MJ in '93 w/ 37+ in 4 st playoff games; 1st since Oscar R. w/ 35 pts 10 ast in 3 games in a single playoff series; 1st Knick w/ 40+ pts in 3 st playoff games since Bernard K. did that in 4 st games in 84. His stats for the series: PPG 35.5, RPG 4.5, APG 9.0 FG% 42.9% 3P% 30.4% NY Hasn't had a guy do that in 30 years. Salute & Peace.
yesterday: Maxey is a bonafide superstar
today: Maxey is an all star caliber player
yea last game someone in the comments was saying Maxey was the most dominant small guard since Iverson. I said Curry, Dame, Kyrie, Brunson????? They argued it. Im going to go collect receipts.
I said hit the breaks on the superstar talk on the last pod and sixers fan went after me saying I was a casual. They seem really quiet today. Jamal Murray is more clutch, won a title and at best pundits only call him a star
This is the problem with all this social media, talk shows, podcast and everything else…. They have way to much time to talk everyday and they just jump around like crazy lol its insane.. u gotta prove urself for a bit before your a bonafide superstar…. 1 game or a couple is not going to do it but hey the media needs stuff to talk about and fill time lol… and a lot of time they barely watch or they do but dont even know what they r talking about… so joke is on me cause idk why i watch most shows/podcast… especially when they talk about ur own team that u root for everyday, we know more then them when it comes to that
I am going to be objective fan. He is not a superstar but a All star calibre guard. He has a lot to learn as a playmaker. Hiwever, he gets a bad whistle. i thought he was a hacked a lot of his drives last night & didn't get any calls. Like Brunson but I think he foul baits at times & is a high volume shooter. I want to see how he progress in the next series. I will also check to see how they officiate him w/ Nembhard & Nesmith likely guarding him.
It is what happens in all sports. New kids on the block are judged on their best performances, great players that have been around are judged on their worst games.
34:54 Jackson will you do me a favor and lower Bontemps’ volume 5-7 degrees and raise Windy’s & McMahon 1-3? He wakes up my kid once an episode. 😂
And I understand we are passionate about the game we all love. Just from a production standpoint it would be more beneficial for everyone I think.
Windy the knicks were in the second round last year lol
Brunson facing his former coach Rick Carlisle.
Obi Toppin facing his former team NYK.
OG going back to Indiana where he went to college.
Knicks renewing their postseason rivalry with Pacers.
Lots of storylines for this series.
Swagggy P vs OG
@@rizzo021 it is - Spicy P quit smoking dude
@@SSSS-yy2yh lol won't matter
mike woodson NY to IU
48:10. James harden has had 16 games he shot 20% or worse in a playoff game (not 13, I double checked basketball reference). Luka has “zero”. Casuals gotta stop with the Harden Luka comparisons.
Same player. Both will retire ringless but have HOF stats.
Luka is Him! The only player to average 8 reb 8 asst for his career. Regular season OR playoffs.
@@DrPhill96just turned 25. He will be a champion.
@@robseesee5188 - Luka is James Harden 2.0.
@@rkoed6968 - As a second or third option. Not as a maxed out go-to guy.
Great Ep guys
3 things sixers need to do to forge ahead...
1. Work with Embiid's rehab to lose 10-15lbs and the right diet for a complete season ... He is too skilled to be limping thru ends of season ..
2. Go get a legit star to supplement the Embiid-Maxie duo... Somebody like a Mikhail Bridges
3. Go get a player like CP3 to backup Maxie and settle down their half court sets in the clutch....
All pretty solid. Gonna be real hard to trade for Mikal Bridges tho. Would have to trade all their picks and they have no one signed to their team next year.
It's a good list. I don't know if Bridges is available and I hear a lot of people mention Paul George but I really like picking up CP3. The guy does so many good things every stop he makes. I think it's pretty clear he was the magic in Phoenix, not Book and certainly not Monty.
I think Oubre is an exceptional player and just as good a defender as Bridges, just lacks a bit of the length.
@@Shortballa11 Nets fan. The Nets foolishly think that Bridges is some superstar. There's been rumors that they've turned down really good offers throughout the year for him. Unless he asks out,I don't see them trading him, especially to the Sixers of all teams. Nets don't have their own picks. Adding the Sixers picks, which would be late first rounders doesn't help them
@@francescosmith7859 You'd rather add a forty year old CP3 over Paul George? Forgetting that George is much more of scorer and much younger, you're also taking the ball out of Maxey's hands.
That intro music always bangs
44:44 I like how Windy’s first guess was hardly even heard. 😂
Tyrese don't have to be a volume scorer like Brunson for Pacers to win. He just need to average 25 PPG. They have the best bench in the play offs & they have a champ in pascal who is a proven play off riser. Rick needs to use his players correctly & he must make sure his schemes are effective.
Pat Bev was actually very good in this series. He was one of their better players.
I swear Banned gave the same Pat Bev speech last year
Saying Embiid had a good series is inaccurate. Yeah, he had a good stat line, but he shot under 30% in the 4th qtr for the entire series. This MVP superstar caliber player is basically non existent in 6 straight 4th qtrs and every game was close and decided in the 4th qtr. Embiid is infamous for choking. He may have played his best series stat wise, but he can’t help himself! He will always be a choke artist.
And let’s not forget the crying, staring down at the ground in embarrassment. He’s a DIRTY player. He has the most flagrant fouls in the NBA since he’s been in the league. Even more than Draymond and he’s played significantly less games than Draymond. He tried to injure two Knicks this series. He’s a flopper, a foul chaser, and always has excuses. He never takes accountability. First it was Ben Simmons. Then it was Doc Rivers. Then it was James Harden. MAYBE EMBIID ISN’T THAT GUY! Anyone who supports this guy, is seriously questionable…
27:12 ...hilarious sequence :)
No room on Planet Bontemps if you have a difference of opinion.
I hope jalen brunson will achieve everything steph has achieved being a PG under 6'3
He will be very successful. He has a great gm who has built a great roster for him and this off-season they will have a max slot.
Pat Bev gonna be working on his passing all summer.
His best Pass of the game was a childish altercation with a Pacers fan.
Yes...in China LOL
Sounds like this series is gonna be for brunson what "tobias harris over me?!" was for jimmy
The guy in the middle was definitely sad about that Bucks lost. Let's Go Pacers !
None of them were. If anything they wouldve loved for the Bucks to win wihtout Giannis but not because they cared about the Bucks in any way
"Guy in the middle" qualifies this statement as less than casual.
Wish the Pacers got more praise, but I understand.
Brunson is like IT in Celtics before. Y'all forget IT in Celtics...
Durant didn't change jack squat the warriors were already champions and had broke the record for win in a season. All he did was solidify that they would be unbeatable.
People need to rewatch that play. Josh wasn't trying to get rid of the ball. He was just looking to move that ball as teams do. Maxey actually stunted to him, and he had to fake the pass to Donte.
Obviously they didn’t watch the Pacers series vs the Bucks, they think Halliburton has to be great, but the Pacers got scoring from Nesimth, Pascal, Turner, TJ, OBi, Nembhard, nobody in Indiana is scared of the Knicks lol Let’s Go Pacers
gonna save this comment and come back after the sweep (or maybe gentleman sweep)
@@andy0519 🤣🤣🤣lol you funny Let’s Go Pacers !!
Maxi had a "bad" game 6 because the Knicks doubled him the whole game and the rest of the 76ers roster was not good enough to take advantage
Brunson got doubled all series
Windhorst: “Joel Embiid got landed on in Denver” - FALSE, Embiid hasn’t played in Denver since before the pandemic
Man, Brian is headed towards a heart attack or stroke with the stress he’s putting on his body…. Quit that GetUp stuff dude. Your family needs you
Lin-sanity is etched into the walls of NYK history
I'm stoked Buddy got to come in and drop some important buckets. $40million off the books is gonna do wonders for Philly. Morey gonna play with that money but don't be surprised if you see a few former Rockets on the team next season. However, I can't wait to stop hearing about Troel throughout the rest of the offseason. Go Knicks!
33:33 I just want to say I don’t think the Bucks are the biggest disappointment. For me it is Phoenix though I thought they had more potential before the Beal move. That was belligerent move for me.
I saw the Bucks flaws on defense were too big to overcome, and I’ve always seen Dame as one of those good players on bad teams as McMahon might term it.
Yall are Sixers & Embiid bias lol its sick
The only sad thing is that with Thibs it is very difficult to be completely healthy come playoff time. He is gonna abuse the starters minutes played
Sixers may have an emerging star in Maxey and cap room and a mad scientist in Morey as GM, but they also have a constant dark cloud in Embiid the Invalid Giant. It's 10 years into the Process, and he's not getting healthier or younger, now having crazy new things like Bell's Palsy. He's like a 7'2" Kawhi who hasn't won any championships, and with Boston's young(er) talent and perhaps an ascendant Magic, plus a plucky Knicks I don't see the Sixers with Embiid being able to reach the mountaintop. If he ever reaches Conf Finals, they'd have to call it a success.
Thanks for the dedication to bring this Podcast to us
But other than that Mr. MacMahon, how do you really feel about Patrick Beverly?
Stats Williams is the real MVP
Sooooo happy to hear Bam and Bontemps give Beverly the business. The guy is a fool and fully deserves a suspension for his latest nonsense.
Shoutout Lavar Ball!! He was right! Lakers will never win without Lonzo. Trade AD for Gelo asap 💯 BBB is king 👑
They literally won a title
I guess you were in a coma from 2020 and just woke up 😂😂
Smh
I smell lavar ball burner acct
34:34 I do think the Bucks have more depth than Phoenix. Who for me, are the biggest disappointment. I really thought KD and Book would be magical together, granted that was before they sold all of their depth and the rest of their capital for Bradley Beal (another good player on bad teams for me).
Umm hello is everyone forgetting about James Harden? As far as free agent signings go, James Harden turned the Rockets into a Championship contender for years. And if not for the Warriors i think the Rockets win a championship.
Bob Pettit drop
Tracy McGrady to Orlando
Three 1st-round exits and a worst record in the East in four years, with an all-time interview response of, "It feels good to get in the second round." Ah, the memories.
lol see ya 👋 ✌️ 76ers, Bucks
the Pat Bev hate is peak
So it’s most definitely Knicks in 4 from the sound of this conversation. The Pacers aren’t even a real basketball team, they’re pretty much a G League squad.
I really hope Knicks fans get humbled
I’m sorry what???? This might be the stupidest take on the internet right now.
@@MrLesismore1990 it’s not my take, seems to be the collective media’s take as well as Vegas. The Knicks are overwhelming favorites in the odds.
@@mosin9349 maybe so but so were the Bucks. To say the Pacers are just g leaguers is flat out moronic.
@@terrortstarantulas1270If Rick & his staff use the players to their advantage they will. Pacers must control the pace all series.
Good review, but the chemistry is stressed
We got it Bontemps. You love Embiid. 🙄. 9:20 referring to himself as neutral is hilarious .
As a Celtics fan i dont want to face the EPO Knicks in the ECF
I would agree normaly but my God the Knicks are banged up
Bro they dont even get tired 🤦🏾♂️
I wouldn't rule out a Celtics vs Pacers matchup.Pacers have forward advantage across the board.Secondly if Halliburton shows up in rd two Knicks are in big trouble.Knicks will not get away with playing their players big mins it won't work against the Pacers.Vicenzo played all 48 mins against 76ers last night he won't be doing that against the Pacers.Thirdly Indiana #1 in the league bench really had one good or great game and that was game six.If the Pacers Bench gives them 30+ Knicks don't win the series unless they contain Halliburton and Siakam.
@@joelandobutterfield1174 celtics wont ever be afraid of a Pacers match up. They would be happy to shot open threes all game long and they would naturally play better defense than the Pacers even if they dont try really that hard
Knicks and pacers both are a match up problem for Boston.
Maybe wait until the next day for the analysis next time. Too much adrenaline and too little actual analysis.
It was a memorably good series, but it was not a series between two memorably great teams. Basically both showed that they are not easy to beat, but they also showed that they are not going to beat other good teams easily. Maxey showed that he is great, but a real star is consistently good. Embid showed that he is a force, and herhaling fysical issues, but he also mentally checked out of games just when he should have checked in. He scored 16 in the third quarter last night, so at that point he was physically good enough. But in the fourth quarter, so right aftera four minute break, he stopped scoring.
I am not a Pacers fan, and I do expect the Knicks to win, but Haliburtom does not have to be godlike for the Pacers to win. He just has to be a lot better than he has been in 2024 so far. Apart from him the Pacers have another player who can score 37 in a game, the Knicks do not. And the Pacers have a lot of other players that can score, the Knicks do not.
Brunson is him
Was Tim Bontemps doing the podcast from the 76ers team bathroom?!
It would have been great if Batum had walked in through the door, looked at the screen for a few moments with a surprised/confused look on his face, and then backed out and slow let the door close.
Knicks are for real. We don't even have Randle.
Ya’ll going down to the Pacers in 6 😂
Bob Pettit
The Kings v Warriors series was better. Indy vs Cleveland in 2018 was better. Yall just have recency bias
This guy trippin hard saying Bucks are in the same situation as the Suns. First of all, Giannis is more valuable and impactful than KD, Booker and Beal together. gtfoh
This podcast is all over the place too much y'all interrupt each other's thoughts consistently and rarely let anyone finish a sentence
Pacers did everything they could to lose this series….they stole a game on the road and won in 6? The two games they lost looked like experience losses for a young team with some core guys that have never been there. The game 1 where they got hit in the mouth, and the 1st elimination game where it was much of the same.
Not saying they beat the Knicks, but he’s being a little obtuse about what happened in the series.
When you say “whatever” you lost in an argument.
I can’t even find what Pat did in the Locker room, what happened?
"Brian you love to say well they're hurt so we don't know, We do know🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓" that's the regular season nobody cares what they did in the regular season it was all about the playoffs and we weren't healthy simple as that. You dudes stay hating on giannis and the bucks it's disgusting
So now it's an accomplishment to make the conference finals? smh The Lakers made the conference finals last season and they say it was failure season.
Knicks in 4 btw
How did the pacers do what they could do to lose. They lost 2 road playoff games? Stupid comment
Joel Embid is a great player, but he has no idea how to win. That is fine. I am still a fan. But It has been a decade of playoff blunders. and when you watch in the 4th quarter. Honestly, it is like he he does not know what to do.
I mean he knew how to win when he dropped 50 on one leg, but go off I guess
The Bucks have dicinntigrated in a season. Giannis' is no longer bulletproof. Dame is showing age as is Middleton. Surprisingly, Brook Lopez has aged as well as anyone. And the coaching situation is a joke. I'd rather listen to Doc on telecasts than explaining losses.
Embiid had 39 points playing with knee injury and you can see his knee was swallowed the whole series on the other hand giannis didn't even bother to show up to even 1 game..props to embiid man
You are comparing apples and oranges. Giannis's injury happened just before the playoffs. So he din't have time to recover.
His knee was swallowed? 😂
Comparing a champion with a constantly injured clown
His knee wasn’t swollen, he was wearing a knee-brace. Stop it.
Stupid post alert!
Pacers have a chance. Stop being prisoners of the moment
Trading Pat Bev just don't understand Cam and Buddy are defensive liabilities. Buddy even if he isn't scoring would create space for Pat to have a little offensive impact.
Is he inside the bathroom ?
Luka's Mavs blew out Phoenix which caused the blow that team up, and the same with the Clippers this year. The man has a killer instinct.
Dude has not won a thing and won’t. The Clippers best was out again so Luka better had won.
JB is great, he should thanks Luka there's so much of Doncics in his game
Cvbnm
What a great day. Arrogant pompous Sixers fans got what they deserved. Raptors fans warned them how Nurse overplayed his players, but they were too pretentious to listen. Next time, learn to listen instead of thinking y'all know everything and how the world revolves around you
Nurse was fantastic you clown
I don’t feel like they trusted buddy enough in the series he would miss a shot and get benched. This can’t be the way you treat a rhythm high volume shooter.
@@FreinoBahamas Hes so bad on defense Nurse took minutes from him in the Reg Season. Bad year from him
@Edd-zd5wb I don't feel bad for him, but I agree with everything else you said. For role players, they survive in two ways: shooting or playing defense.
@@Edd-zd5wb yeah if you’re a guy is hot, you don’t put him on the bench. If you have a rhythm shooter you don’t give him two shots. They brought him to Philly to shoot. Let him shoot I guess it doesn’t matter now he’s a free agent.
out of 58 minutes they talked about pacers 30 seconds
😂😂
Taliburton earned himself a lifetime troll this series 🧌
🏃🏿♂️🔫
You can hate on pat bev all you want but he is the last on the list on why they got bounced in the first round.
The most important player on the pacers is Siakam. You guys are casuals..you just ramble on without having an in depth knowledge of the game .
Glad players are starting to think about how reporters report on them and denying their questions. ESPN has spun racist BS around the MVP Jokic refusing to be interviewed by people like Perk SASNick wright etc is the perfect response. Pay the fine and refuse their interviews
Brunson, can you say tampering.
He takes so many shots though. If Luka or Kyrie took 34 shots a game they’d score 40 points a game.
To say the pacers win with Giannis is just outright foolish
No love for Pacers - ok smart heads
Brunson combines free throws 26 Maxey 6 games 1 & 6 Crooked Scott Foster was sent to ensure there wasn't gonna be a coin flip game 7...this NBA product is trash 🗑️🚮
Blame it on the refs when you can’t even breathe on Embiid without getting called for a foul… or how about Tobias Harris scoring a donut…. Or Embiids 4th Quarter performances…. Or Hields embarrassing “game tying shot”?
@@goldenboydylan Knicks deserve to win they played harder more physical and is the tougher team but the NBA is still a business and Scott Foster is crook
@rohandunbar2072 the semester about foster were literally that his job was to extend the series. This series was getting good ratings the nba would've wanted a game 7.
lol if they wanted to rig this game they’d have forced a game 7 for the sake of ratings.
@@rah0210 really now!...game 7s are totally coin flips what if Bronson shot 3/19? And Phly scores 24 3s? NBA made a business decision to ensure their most viewed product advance to the ECF
Brunson is a foul baiter...like every other player that puts up big stats...he's still him..both are true imo
this is the most negative nba podcast 😂😂😂
Windy is such a hater. Discredit Kyrie’s achievements because his team mate was Lebron. If yoh know what athletes have to go through to achieve these goals in their career you won’t be spouting such nonsense.
the 76ers-knicks series was good but you guys are going a bit over board. i hate when recency bias causes people to gush. it's not historic series. it was great. that's it.
MacMahon… one of the worst storytellers of our generation 😴 😴
bro tim botemps thinking the knicks are some type of world beaters is actually hilarious LMAOOOO hes way too excited i cant wait for the pacers to give him a reality check he needs to get humbled asappppp lmao yikes. Please dont tell me all knicks fans think like this LMFAO.