Amir Timur The Lame ft. WhatIfAltHist | The Unconquered Lord of the Seven Climes | 1336CE - 1405CE
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- Just as the Islamic world was making its peace with the Mongol invasion, the world was hit by the Black Death which killed anywhere from 30 to 50 percent of the people in many cities. However, immediately afterwards, a man rose up in Central Asia who wanted to give those numbers a strong challenge. This man is remembered as Tamerlane by the west.
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tsssssssssssss and i got hyped because of this.... -_-. Also note don't forget my previous comment, it's fine to be subjective, objectivity doesn't really exist. You can call what it was or who he was, a massmurderer and so on...
Al Muqaddimah do a video on me
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@@zackamor8043 there’s a whole philosophy out there called “objectivism.” Amir Timur was a strategist, a military leader and a conqueror. Unless he went around and stabbed a whole bunch of people, I would call him a mass murderer, It would betray a certain lack of intelligence.
@@cyrusiiofpersia7932 Cyrus the great one of the best military commander of all time principles of military strategy emerged at least as far back as 500 BC in the works of Sun Tzu and Chanakya. The campaigns of Alexander the Great, Chandragupta Maurya, Hannibal, Qin Shi Huang, Julius Cæsar, Zhuge Liang, Khalid ibn al-Walid and, in particular Cyrus the Great Cyrus the great is one of the best military commander in history if not the greatest in history never lost a battle conquered Median empire, Neo-Babylonian Empire , Lydian empire, Gandhara Kingdom or empire was powerful state , Elam , ancient Phoenicia ,Cyrus' Conquest of Elam Part of the Wars of Cyrus the Great also beat Iranic nomads and others created the most powerful empire of is time the biggest the world has seen in that time Cyrus was outnumber many time for example Cyrus defeated Lydians three times.
He won the battle of Pteria while he had 20 000 to 30 000 soldiers but Lydians had 90 000 to 95 000
He won the battle of Thymbra while he had 49 000 to 50 000 soldiers but Lydians had 105 000 to 110 000 soldiers. He conquered Sardis and defeated the Ionians. He established a large empire 10 years(or less) and rulled over it for 30 years. Cyrus the great was outnumbered in half of his battles. He never lost a war Cyrus defeated and conquered the 2 most powerful empires of is time tell me one military commander that conquered 2 most powerful empires of there time at there height the Medes and Babylonians were at the height of their power) AT HEIGHT OF THEIR POWER Alexander never beat Iranian empire at their height of their power) Hannibal Barca couldn’t even conquered Rome before Rome was empire and Alexander didn’t beat the Iranian empire at height and also Cyrus conquered 6 states or more and the 2 most powerful empires of is time Median empire and Neo-Babylonian Empire Cyrus the great military commanders are unknown peoples not popular not like Genghis khan , Alexander , Napoleon and others just imagine if Cyrus the great had the military commanders that Alexander had like Antigonus I Monophthalmus and Seleucus or Genghis Khan had like Subutai
Al-Muqaddimah: "i'll try to be as neutral as possible"
also Al-Muqaddimah: *"my lifelong dream is to piss on timur's grave"*
Foul words. Even if Timur was barbaric still these words can't be justified
And I am sure he is a proud Muslim. This why no Indian should be Muslim
What a joke this channel is. Full of hate speak
Timur did burn Muslims alive in a mosk that's messed up
@@sophosalpha timur played double game to gain support of Muslims and mongols
I'll use this opportunity to share a fun fact. The subjugation of the Golden Horde by Timur and the support given to Tokhtamysh by the Grand Duke Vytautas was one of if not the main reason for Tatar settlement in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which was the origin of the Polish-Lithuanian Lipka Tatar community.
interesting, I've also read that Tokhtamish had 7 Sons or so and One of them (the oldest I believe) was known as the "Green sultan"
@@abisalpha aaaaa
Can you please elaborate more
@@saif14218 There is quite a bit about this topic in the recent video on The Jackmeister: Mongol History channel: 'Ukraine in the Golden Horde: Mongol rule over Kyiv' (late into the video)
czcams.com/video/cnGW3p4lFPU/video.html
You can also hear some more about the Lipka Tatars in the latest video on this channel:
czcams.com/video/wkQJjduENt0/video.html
This is all just scratching the surface of what could be a topic of its own video (or several videos) but it's still better than what I could have quickly written in a comment.
@@Artur_M. thank you so much brother. This part of history is unknown to me. I will check out your suggestions.
This video should be shown to every Pakistani. The way my fellow countrymen glorify just because he was a Muslim ruler who ruled over Hindus him is disturbing. They are never taught how much blood he shed to get to his position
@@Uhuss-qq6cq what peace did he gain for us? And I don’t mind if you just look at him as a man of his time, but unfortunately he’s more glorified in Pakistan. He’s not glorification worthy
@@Uhuss-qq6cq Well, you certainly get peace if there are no people alive to start a war...
You should tell them timur is a shia, i bet they will stop worshipping him
@the great han un han the great han un han I’m advocating for the opposite if you can comprehend what I said?
@@UnitedNationsSecretariat lmao factsss
I swear, Georgia just couldn’t catch a break from this guy huh?
Can’t wait for your verification
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Al Muqaddimah: *Pees on Timur's grave*
Uzbeks: Ah, so you have chosen death
hahahaha
Majority of Uzbeks dont know about his massacres so thats why they see him as a father of the nation. However area of current uzbekistan brought a lot of great generals before Timur.
Alp Arslan was born Khorezm who won a battle 1071 Manzikert which led to open anatolia for Turks.
Saifuddin Qutuz was from royal family of Khorezmian empire. When mongols capture Khorazm he was sold as slave later ended up in Egypt. He rose to general of the army in Egypt. Saifuddin Qutuz is first general who openly without disputes beat the mongols. Battle of Ain Jalut.
Mahmud Ghaznavi was born in afghanistan but his family parents were from Ferghana region.
Zahiriddin Muhammad Babur
Great grandson of Timur. Baburid empire captured india and ruled before British came.
Seljuqs were mostly from that region.
@@user-wp7kg6qw1g It's not about great general's before him. Some Uzbeks actually know of his evil too, but think about it - before Timur Central asia used to be in complete Turmoil but after Timur since he brought so much wealth to modern Central asian region by looting delhi sultanate, Khwarazam, Egyptians and ottomans he actually did so much development in central asia and made it far more stable. That is why Uzbeks and many muslim praise Timur, he was a a savage warlord true, but he also brought prosperity and civilization to his own region as well.
@@azidahaka8543 he brought wealth and prosperity but destroyed too many nations. Called himself a Sword of Islam however he killed many more muslims. Sacked Baghdad, Sacked Delhi when it was under control of muslim Turks. I like his generalship, army, tactics. But he stopped Ottoman’s conquest in Europe due to his actions Ottomans went through rough civil war which lasted for 10 years. Khalifa Usman’s Quran was brought to Samarqand after Timur’s conquest of Baghdad. As an Uzbek my opinions may differ from majority of my nation. He destroyed too much of Islamic world when he had clearly skills and army to capture China. If he had succeeded to do so he would be viewed someone like Salahuddin or Muhammad al Fatih.
@@user-wp7kg6qw1g I do Agree with you. Timur did good for Central Asia but for rest of the islamic world he was cancer. He killed 500,000 muslims in isfahan and built their skull tower monuments, but still despite that we can't ignore he is also one of the best conquerors in history, there are many figures who were far far worse than him, also it was because of Timur that Mughal Dynasty became a thing which formed one of the most prosperous empire of all time in india. If you'll see from a neutral perspective he was a brutal genocidal dictator but he also cared for his own people and gave them so much too. On the very least it is not wise to say by this CZcamsr that he will piss on his grave. Even historians of west give him respect for his military and cultural achievements.
PS : Funnily, Timur did planned to launch campaign against Ming Dynasty of China in 1405 AD, even allying himself with a enemy of ming kingdom but he died from cold when crossing Central asia loll
He did what’s called “a pro gamer move”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
My sides my never recover
Started laughing in the middle of the gym set 😅
He was just a genocide killer.
Love your coloful maps and your overall style! Keep up the great work!
Here from WhatIfAltHis! I love your videos so far!
Glad you like them!
Great video, got here thanks to WhatIfAltHist.
Love your channel, just found it because of WhatIfAltHist’s video on Tamburlaine
Recently been binging your channel! Good stuff, I like how you add a bit of your personality in the videos too!
He lit the dried grass on the camels and drove them against the elephants. That was what panicked the elephants and caused the Delhi army to collapse.
Al Muqaddimah: "my lifelong dream is to go and pee on Timur's grave"
I know you hate the guy and all, but damn, dude 😂🤣
Ikr🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lowest of the low often speak of such words which they can not live up too
Lowest of the low make comments like you just did.
The part near the end where you talk about Timur's admiration for holy men and scholars reminds me that Timur attempted to recruit Sheikh Bedreddin. Speaking of which, you should totally do a video about Sheikh Bedreddin and his revolt to replace the Ottomans, its so so interesting and deserves more coverage
Again, I like your new intro logo!
Brilliant brilliant effort
Beautifully presented
Straight to the point
Effort less flow
Well done 👏
Timur did what is called a "Pro-gamer move"
LMFAO
Very interesting video. Good job!
Narrator.: I will stay unbiased
Also narrator : I will piss in Timur s grave
Timur is a definite point in favor of the argument that an evil man (understatement) who thinks himself a hero is capable of more harm than your run of the mill sociopath. I would guess that all of his good qualities merely amplified his ability to do evil. For example, his extreme distaste for treachery among his men would likely mean that, since there is so little backstabbing among his own ranks, they are more effective as a whole, as well as more loyal, and thus able to more efficiently worship Khorne (no joke, Timur pretty much what a hyper competent 40k Chaos worshiper would be like IRL). Seriously, what type of man has "Try to max out my human suffering high score by conquering the most populous nation on Earth" as a BUCKET LIST ITEM!
You are mentally impaired.
I dont understand how Timur with what little is known of him is seen as some evil tyrant but Genghis Khan the man he emulated is not seen that way.
Timur shows one man can do so much.
Timur shows that even a crippled man can do so much
Great video. I appreciate your subtle humor.
This is a great video in a great channel. So fascinating to learn about the Middle East during this time in history. In the west we're mostly just taught about the Mongol invasions and the Crusades but there's such a rich tapestry of human experience during this time period that we're never exposed to. Keep it up!
13:33 "Send forth the flaming camels!"
That line from the AoE2 campaign never gets old.
We sorely need more channels like this keep it up!
great video!!
Great Video!
Love the video brother . Subscribing now
Timur:
The world is a rough place right now.
How can I make it worse?
Wonderful and insightful❤ Jazakallah khair
More fun facts. On June 22 1941 a USSR team opened Timur's tomb despite the prophecy that if Timur's tomb is opened he would unleash war on the world. Of course, June 22 1941 was the day of the German invasion of the USSR. In late 1942 Stalin was convinced to seal the tomb again and a few days later the USSR forces defeated the Germans at Stalingrad paving the way for an eventual USSR victory in the war.
Nope. His tomb was opened on the 19th of June, 3 days before the invasion, and the Battle for Stalingrad ended on February 3rd, a whole one month and a half after Tamerlane was reburied
@@antoniochiodi4183 June 19th is pretty close to June 22nd which was the invasion. Battle of Stalingrad started Nov 19th and within 2-3 days it was clear USSR was going to win the battle.
@@jaichind You're absolutely wrong. The battle of Stalingrad started in August of 42, not November, and the German army dominated for close to 3 months. It wasn't until November that the Soviets started to turn the tide of the battle. Jesus, just admit that you were wrong about the opening of Timur's tomb having anything to do with the outcome of a war that occurred centuries later (a silly idea at best), and do some research next time. Is that too much to ask?
@@michaeltrent2599 Sorry when I say the battle of Stalingrad I really mean the USSR counter Stalingrad counter-offensive of 11/19/1942
The battle of Stalingrad wasn't turned by some sudden intervention. For at least a month (if not more, I'd have to check the date when it was decided to have the operation Uranus), the defenders inside the city were given just enough men and resources for them to be able to hold on to a small portion of the city and keep the Germans engaged, while a huge, over a million strong army was slowly being assembled and deployed in the rear. This army then punched through weak points in the Axis defenses both north and south of the city (the less well equipped German allies were completely wiped out) poured into the rear of the Axis forces and secured a belt around the city (and the German Sixth Army in and around it) that was too wide (and held very securely by the aforementioned million Soviets) for a breakout or a relief force to get through. If the Soviets did have any help, it came from Hitler and Goering - the latter boasted that he would be able to supply the city by air after if it "temporarily" gets cut off, and the former believed him. The result was that the Sixth Army, the strongest that the Germans had, did not try to retreat or break out early on while it had a chance, and was thus left to wither away as their supplies slowly ran out, adding the loss of a huge number of men (and not insignificant amount of material) to the defeat in the battle.
I had been gone through with a book by Herald Lamb on Timer lan the conqurer of world. That was probably first book of my life at age of 10 . It was a translation in our URDU language and i was liyerally so much inspired with Timor personality . Itxwas 1968. Since then i am holding such impression into my memories which never gone out for a moment . Today i watched ypur video. 5hen started reading comments. I found comments more intetesting and realiez how many others from. Different countries or languages having had such intetest in Timor life like me.
I visited his grave and of his family also of Imam Bukhari Rehmatullahalay and also of Hazrat Husayn Ibn Abbass Radiallahanhu.
All places are the places of peace and theres a clear sense of calmness in Samarkand than of other places there.
May Allah have mercy on him and increase his ranks in Jannat ul Firdous, ameen.
Whether good or bad, Allah knows best.
But muslims were already bitterly fighting amongst themselves other than Ottoman.
Taimur was a beautiful essence of history.
It is indeed surprising that Ahmad ibn Arabshah whom you mention had hated Timur has strangely paid glowing tributes and effervescent praise upon him in his speech. This is not a new phenomenon. Many barbarians and psychopatic rulers in history like Ivan the Terrible, Vladd the Impaler, Attila the Hun, Hitler, Stalin, Mao have not only wielded absolute power but held in awe and had personality cult among their followers. I have heard that Timur is still considered a hero in Uzbekistan. This is indeed a subject which should be researched: as to why the bad guys or barbarians and violent rulers are worshipped, have the maximum fun and wield absolute power (even in modern research it is found that people with the dark triad of narcissism, psychopathy and machiavellianism are extremly successful as CEOs and rulers) while the "nice guys" are generally victims/laughing stock in public and get exploited and abused. This also rubbishes and makes useless the talk of "good triumphing over evil", when actually the reverse happens in reality most of the time.
We worship only Allah. Who told you that we worship him? You can say what ever you want to say how he was bad and all that but you can’t show 100% proof...
@RM: It appears that you have completely misunderstood and not comprehended what I was trying to mention..I have nowhere mentioned that Timur was worshipped by Muslims..I have said that he is seen as a hero in uzbekistan which is borne by facts...Furthermore I was not discussing only timur but I had mentioned that in various historical epochs, evil persons masquerading as good have dominated over empires..Furthermore the sacking of cities and mass murders done by timur have been illustrated by the narrator in the video and not by me...such actions are not those of a good ruler...therefore please first carefully read what I have mentioned which has nothing to do with Islam instead of reacting on your personal biases/prejudice...
It is entirely possible to respect the great achievements of a man while acknowledging his evil deeds. Caesar is one of my favorite historical figures but he was still an evil man who killed and enslaved the innocent.
Men respect strength, and the men who excel in war do tend to be violent men.
@Liberty Prime I agree with your viewpoint..However just because a person has significant achievements does not mean that he/she is absolved of their evil deeds..even Hitler commanded a lot of respect and admiration of the German people initially but later went to ignominy due to the holocaust..
Furthermore strength need not necessarily be understood as using violence or fighting wars..in earlier times violence did give an edge however in today's age of nuclear weapons strength by violent means has become irrelevant..so the definition of strength keeps on changing..strength in modern times largely depends upon brainpower and also denotes one's ability to excel in a particular field like sports, fine arts, science, literature, etc..
also noone excels in violence as it leads to a vicious cycle which subsumes everyone..violence has never been effective in history towards resolving conflict even though humanity strongly believes in it..even Caesar was finally assassinated by Brutus and his own inner circle, so his evil deeds came back upon him in a karmic fashion..
Ahmad Ibn Arabshah The young Men from Damshq
love from Bangladesh bro.i like your videos
I am so glad to see that you are slowly but surely getting the response you deserve. I have been following your work since the inception of this channel and your content quality has improved a lot. keep up the good work.
Thank you so much! Yes, I'm listening to feedback and trying to improve in whatever areas I can.
@@AlMuqaddimahYT would love a series on delhi sultanate. From ghaznavi onwards some indian ias preperation channels are doing classes on that period and even they are intersting. Woh kafi biased hain so neutral assesment would be great of balban iltutmush etc ka.
Wow. I can't believe I never knew this stuff before. You'd think a man who killed over 10 million people would be universally recognized for the evil he committed
Sadly many people like to idolize power over morality. This is a very common things amongst humans. That is why histories' 'greatest' people are just a collection of the worst, most genocidal mass murders. If we lived under them we would despite them, but looking back at a sanitized version of history where everyone who suffered under them is long forgotten, it's easy to romantalize their brutality as being admirable.
@@muslimcrusader3085 You obviously make a great point, but there are many factors that lead to a man's "greatness". Caesar was loved by his people but hated by the political establishment. Alexander made Greek culture suprememe in his time but set the stage for chaos after his death. Muhammad created a religion that arguably brings a lot of peace and stability to the people who follow it.
Whilst they all commit evil deeds to achieve their greatness,any of them did achieve positive things.
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How did you write your username in Ogham??? What strange magic be this?
@@lucasblaise11 copy and paste from relevant wikipedia articles :)
"Toktamysh is not Muslim" ?? check your information.
Токтамыс а не Тоатамыш,он Казах,прошу исследоват историю правильно
Excellent work here
Love this channel
Fun and history both
As a Mongolian i can confirm that Timur was actually pretty lame.
As a hazara you mean
Hi
@@Lipton3373 Hazara are turks not mongol, check hazara dna test
I remember watching this video 2-3 days ago. Did you delete and re-upload it?
There was an audio glitch in that one. I fixed it and reuploaded.
Al Muqaddimah good job ! I love Timur the Iron
Love it
Your history is fascinating as is the enlightened comment section.
there is something strange with your map, how come ottoman already got constantinople at that stage? Bayezid was sultan mehmed II great grandfather right? and ottoman havent got constantinople before sultan mehmed II..... right?
I love Timur. Thanks for this.
I have also subscribed to your channel today
Calmly stating the man's death toll like you did has been echoing in my head since the first time I watched this.
9:02 Tokhtamysh was a Muslim in fact.
Yes if this basic fact is missing it makes you wonder where they get their information from.
@@kazan2081 some sources claim otherwise; besides it is also a common fact that Timur declared himself an executer of divine will and so him just saying that Tukhtamysh was not a Muslim makes sense.
@@sulemanhaider1305 by that same logic then ottomans and dehli sultanate would not have been muslim. Most sources say Tokhtamysh was a muslim and it was an obvious power struggle between him and Timur.
He was indeed a muslim, and he named one of his sons Jalal
Very True. This guy didn't do proper research
Love the clouds over the map and congratulations on passing 40,000 subscribers! Anyway, what if Timur lived longer and invaded China? Could he have recreated Genghis Khan's empire (khanate)?
Thank you! I think he could have. The Ming had just taken over China so there was instability but I don't know enough about Chinese History to give a more educated opinion. Maybe you can make a video on that?
@@AlMuqaddimahYT That make for an interesting video. Maybe WhatIfAltHist would be interested in another collab or something?
What a shame he never got to destroy them.
@@kazan2081 That Timur never got to destroy China?
@@HistoryandHeadlines i know thats why I said its a shame.
Were you reading Justin Marozzi's book for this video? I feel a huge familiarity with everything you're saying.
will you published video documentary about Mamluk Sultanate
Read Zafarnama about a year ago. Read the beginning and his rise to power and was absolutely fascinated, then skipped over to the invasion of Delhi Sultanate and was extreemly apalled.
I really really hope that you will talk about the successors of Timur in detail, especially Ulugh Beg and his scientific accomplishments. And also discuss about their contributions to architecture.
I, also, quite like his sobriquet, The Prince of Destruction. It has a certain ring to it, none of that namby-pamby: the Navigator, the Wise, the Confessor or the Good.
Subscribing your channel with sone expectation of learning more about Timor his success and achievements of life. Though most of it already read through HEROLD LAMBs books
Im a history teacher and I love your channel. Will be showing many of your videos this year. Thank you
Nice video! Nice graphics! I like it!
I'm from Uzbekistan, I should note that you are right that Amir Timur is national icon and Uzbekistan's history based on Timurid legacy. Timurid names like Temur, Babur, Uluğ Bek, Jahangir are quite popular in Uzbekistan.
In the end, I don't advise you to pee Timur's tomb, as he is well-respected and untouchable persona in my country.
You need to make jalal-ul-din your national icon who fought against chegaz khan and try to protect muslims of central asia instead of timur who killed millions of muslims.
@@aqlli_yechimlar Timur is a Mongol .
Why you glorify Mongol ?
He wanted to be Genghis Khan and fought for revival of Mongol empire .
He is from Barlas tribe a Mongom tribe .
He destroyed the Muslim world .
Why are you proud of him ?
Also the Uzbek killed the descendants of Timur and now you claim him ?
Very idiotic behavior .
You Uzbek destroyed his Gurkani dynasty and made Babur a Homeless , Babur then build his Empire in India the Mughals Empire .
Babur with Iranic Emperor Shah Ismail of the Persian Saffavid dynasty destroyed your Uzbek Khanate and killed your Khan ( who was from the Borjigin line of Genghis Khan ) and make the Uzbek Khan's skull a drinking cup .
The Mughals ( Timurids ) fought the Uzbeks for centuries .
Now you claim Timur ?
Very idiotic .
@@aqlli_yechimlar Jalaludin was a torn in Genghis Khan side and fought against Mongol occupation .
Timur was a Mongol who idolized Genghis Khan .
🤣😂 so how can Jalaludin be one of your country nation when at the time Timur is also you hero ? 😂 .
Timur would of killed Jalaludin for resisting Genghis Khan .
@@joerogue231 , Timur wasn't a Mongol, his tribe was Turkified. He raised as a Turk and a Muslim.
@@joerogue231 , the only stupid is you man. We claim Timur because we need national spirit, loser. He is the best general who founded massive Empire and built beautiful cities in Turkistan (Uzbekistan is rather new name). We respect Babur because he spread Islam in India and wrote memories in Turki language.
And plus, Babur didn't killed Shaibani Khan, Shah Ismail did that, and that's why we have little relationship with Iran and shias.
Love all your videos! This one was a little hard to follow at times, especially geographically--my personal preference would be to have more arrows showing the movements of armies and then, once they reach a city or region, KEEP some symbol or even a little dot there, then show another arrow with the army returning to Samarkand or whatever base city. I do like the images you always have but in this one, I was trying to follow the movement on the map but then every time Timur's army moved, immediately the map would be displaced by images from old art or a photo of a statue of a guy on a horse, etc. That style is pretty good when talking about a mostly sedentary story, e.g. the Abbasid Caliphate, but is hard to follow when an army is always on the go, conquering foes all around them--I want to know visually WHERE they are and, also, how and when they get back! Heck, you could even have a little blue arrow showing the movements of the enemy.
E.g. at 12:59 you tell us "Pir Muhammad then met Timur who was sweeping across Punjab. Cities like Pakpattan and Dipalpur were sacked, their population was slaughtered." Meanwhile you're showing us a map but with no indication WHERE on the map all this is taking place, where Pir Muhammad's armies came from, where they clashed. Heck, Pakpattan and Dipalpur aren't even on the map! These battles would be so much easier to follow and remember if we could have visual aids showing us the army movements and the clashes.
Thank you very much for the feedback. I really appreciate it. I'll try to keep this in mind in the future. In my latest video "The Fall of the Nasrid Sultanate" I have used a scroll to represent the position of characters. Similarly, I made sure all the cities I mentioned are on the map. I'll make sure my future videos are easier to understand. Thanks.
@@AlMuqaddimahYT thanks! I meant this as 100% constructive criticism--no one else but you is covering such great history from a non-Eurocentric perspective. You always manage to cover your topics honestly and yet with great care never to insult any figures from history who don't deserve it... which was why, despite my reservations, I found this to be a very fun video--Timur was not a nice guy, to be sure, haha! I think even those people who think of him as a folk hero would look at him less as a moral exemplar and more a titan and conqueror.
I appreciate the constructive criticism because yeah, I only upload a video when it's fine from my perspective but mine is not the only perspective and I'm grateful that you brought it to my attention. I shall try to rectify this problem in future videos.
Nice bruh
(I'm Real Gamer Of Discord)
I see that "Talk about a total badass" in the captions.
The problem with alternate history is that it is just as likely it would have turned into a worse world. Someone else might have taken up opportunities and used them towards bad results. Unless we figure out a way to look into parallel universes and study the results of small changes, alternate history will forever be nothing but light-hearted fun.
The crossover we never knew we needed so badly
I have been a great fan of Ameer Timur since my 5th grade OR childhood
Go ahead, Brother.
Anyhow we can still able to get something good from the story... May Allah protect us all.
Barakallah
Pro historians don't threaten pee on ancient dead men's graves
I was surprised to hear the pee on the grave line.....very unprofessional
I agree, highly unprofessional and childish
What? Would you honor the name of a mass murderer?
@@ruzzsverion2728ikr, these people don't know what he had done to his fellow Muslims in Baghdad and Damascus. An ironically he called himself the Sword of Islam.
Great video i find it very intresseting and this video proves to me that you know how to teach history as you make your own bais known befor you even start
Can you do a video on Roxelana ( hurrem Sultan ) please
Timur read that muslims shouldn't kill muslims and was like "But if I do tho?"
17:17 YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THRE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DISTURBED HIS GRAVE?
And here comes Mecha Hitler. Thanks for the defiling a conqueror's grave, mate.
czcams.com/video/Wx9vrM0ghtE/video.html for the Muslim brothers
After opening Amir Timur grave, exactly after 12 hours 2 World War started.
As a westerner I can thank him for breaking the hyper moralistic media in the west at the time
So yeah He really indirectly made shakespears morally complex plays possible.
Keep in mind this is due to how everyone saw him as a bad dude and yet he won so I GUESS GOD DOESNT ALWAYS WIN.
@Alghiffary Sikumbang why he killed his fellow Muslims
Hold up this background music is fire!
I like ur unbiased history telling, , nice to see
Keep it up bro
How do you know this guy is unbiased?
A very nice video about Aksak Timur (that's how he is called in my language), although I didn't get the point about Timur bringing an overall negative impact on history. These were the harsh times and no war was done without the blood. Amir Timur for me always was an interesting figure, sometimes controversial. All the slaughter he did to the Golden Horde I guess was because he was outraged by Tokhtamysh's betrayal. The more interesting fact is that basically destroying of Golden Horde by Timur let the Russian principalities rebel successfully against the Horde.
One interesting fact of Timur: when he was staying with his army on a territory of modern Bashkortostan which is located by Ural mountains Timur erected Hüseyin Bey Türbesi in honour of Hüseyin Bey who was on the first man to bring Islam to these lands.
Tokhtamysh was a muslim and he even named one of his sons Jalal.
Темур Чингизид,наш предок Казахстана ,🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿
Can I copy your video on my Facebook page??
Fantastic job! One small thing, please leave out saying “CE” 4000 times....we get it, you only need to say it once. It makes you sound amateurish and takes away from an otherwise OUTSTANDING video.
First video I've seen on your channel and it's superb! Just subscribed! I'd love to see the map update with every battle you mention instead of just the big events. Also, seeing the city names on the map would help make it clearer. I don't know arabic so it's tough to keep the names straight without visual markers.
Thank you for the feedback! I agree with it. I realize Timur's movement is unclear. I've tried to change it since. I'll try to implement it as best I can.
Salute timur the great
@@owaisaliumr786 Sultan Timur was a muslim and is now dead. You should never backbite a muslim, especially one who has died because it's haraam to backbite.
You should search about what he did to the Muslims in Baghdad and Damascus.
Thanks to your videos now when I hear or read Timur or Tamerlane I hear Johnny T from glove and boots calling him a jerk, or going off about terrible things about Timur.
A small video on the meeting between khaldun and timur would be awesome.
One thing that i want to say is that a soldier/warrior of timur the lame was a man called Mirza Murad Beg who is my fifth great grandfather who fought alongside amir timur.
Ma sha Allah
Когда перестанете врать,Темур Чингизид,не надо воровать чужую историю,он наш предок Казахстана
Glory To Timur!!!
Nah bro
Be great if you do something about south east Asia
I heard on a video of UselessCharts' that you call Timur "Timur the Jerk" on your channel. But at the beginning of this video you say you will avoid the personal feelings and name-calling. So in what videos do you call Timur that name?
Timur say his mother is from royal Persian line .
Timur say his father is from Mongol line and common ancestor of Genghis Khan .Timur say his mother was descendant of the legendary Persian Hero-King Manuchehr .That would make Timur a man of Perso-Mongol origin according to himself .In reality Timur mother was named Tekina Khatun amd was probably a Mongol of lowly birth who was related to the Yasa'ur line ( Yasa'ur was the great-great-grandson Chagathai Khan ) or maybe she was from the line of Genghis Khan .
Or she was daughter of Sadr al-Sharia who was from the Persian Hanafi scholar Ubayd Allah al-Mahbubi of Bukhara .
So we have two sources that say she was either a lowly Mongol woman related to the Yasa'ur tribe or that she was related to Genghis Khan line ... And we have two sources that state that she was from either a Persian line of Sunni Hanafi scholar and the other source is Timur himself who said she was from the mythical royal Persian Manuchehr line .
Not Turkic 🤣😂Timur skull is fully Mongoloid , some say he is tall because of his Persian / Iranic ancestry .
Also if he was Turkicized then he was also Mongolisized and Persianized 🤣😂truth is that Timur was according to himself a half-Persian by his mother side and a half Mongol by his father side .
Timur father ( Taraghai Noyan ) was the great-great-grandson of Qarachar Noyan the Mongol who was the general of Genghis Khan What of Timur was Turkic again ? 🤣😂
bro turkic people is actually persian. let me explain;
Turkic history begins with first turkic khaganate and the official language was persian.
The founder of turkic khaganate was Bumin Qhagan who came from a persian tribe ashina. They had persian traditions and made good relations with sassanid empire.
Ashina believed to a iranic religion that is Zoroastrianism.
When arabs took over all of the persia, both people adopted to islam. Persians and turks created new honorful empires together like ghaznavids seljuks and kwarazmians.
They conquered the anatolia under a muslim persian commander Alparslan.
In 1206 genghis khan united the all mongol and turkic tribes(mongolified persians) in mongolia. and the delhi sultanate (Turco-Persians) was busy on conquering india while genghis khan doing these things.
The entire Turco-Persian world changed after the mongol conquest of khwarazm
The mongols and various turkic nomads gave their DNA to the people who lives in iran.
After 2 century. The persian hero Tamerlane came and conquered most of the middle east, sacked mamluks ottomans and delhi sultanate.
let's talk about origin of the ottomans
Osman (Founder of the ottoman empire) his ancestor was Alparslan who was a persian leader and ruled the seljuks,but unfortunately ottomans were arabized.
they spoke persian for a century but after 1400's language of ottomans were arabic.
Today on the world you can see 6 turkic originated states and you know Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan located in the central asia and they have "Stan" word which comes from persian language. These countries have persian traditions and speaks too different version of persian because of russia.
Russia changed their language against qajar dynasty and called them as a different nation from persians
maybe you cannot understand them but they actually speaking a language from iranic group.
If we mentioned on Azerbaijan and Turkey, the azeri people has 100% persian ancestors and their language is very similar to persian language. Moreover 30 or 40 millions of azeri people lives in northern region of iran and they calling themself as persian.
Turkey is only persian country which assimilated to a foreign race. :(
so the Turkic people is actually an iranic tribe who assimilated by other nations
I'm gonna leave some resources so you can read and correct me. ☺️
by the way may be I wrote some worng sentences by grammar, I apologise for this and sorry for my english.
Respect from Sweden 🇸🇪
Have a nice day!
@@Timurid1370 wtf, Alparslan was persian? and ancestor of Osman, and Ottomans speak arabic&persian? lol I'll count it as irony, Actually for all
@@Timurid1370 Literally straight up completely wrong lmao
@@Timurid1370 Ajam Cope
@@Timurid1370 wtf what what is the Ferndale idiot 😂😂
The sword of Islam killing more Muslim than Christians or Mongols. Whenever i think of timur that is what comes to my mind.
Do you believe cow is god?
@@RM-le1up he's not wrong. Timur killed more Muslims than any crusader did lol
@@jamieammar6131 Crusader Yes, Christian No. The French colonizer monarchy from 1800 onwards and Queen victoria in india post 1857 failed revolt actually killed more muslims.
Also, Mongols killed way way way more muslims. Hulagu khan killed 8 million muslims in Baghdad alone
@@azidahaka8543 Are you kidding me ? 8 million in Baghdad ? What was the population of Baghdad during that time lol. It was at most 200,000 to a million, according to history anyway. 8 million..lmao.
@@jamieammar6131 Baghdads population at that time was 20 million or 2 crores which is equivalent to population of delhi now, it was the biggest city ever build till that time and, also Baghdad wasn't limited to a city, it was a small city state of it's own. Also having some of nearby area surrounding the city and it was the last base of Abbasid Caliphate's powerhouse and finances as well.
"I'm going to be objective"
Proceeds to not even be close to objective.
Nope. Totally objective. Giving my opinion on him isn't being not-objective. I presented all sides of the opinions regarding him with as much honesty as I could, I didn't hide or distort any facts about him.
Dislocating all the noise, Timur was a military and a state Genius.
I agree. His techniques of brutality and raiding made him perhaps the most beloved general (by his army) in centuries.
reupload?
Fixed the audio glitch.
@@AlMuqaddimahYT oh
The Narrator: I will be totally professional and neutral on Timur.
Also the Narrator: i would piss on Timur's grave.
This guy is Timirphobia. All the commanders haven been killing others historically same way Timur did. If Pakistani man was a conquerer, Pakistan would pay tribute to that person. Besides being good at what he does which strategic war, he passed forward to today's generations some wisdom as well.
@@simplelivinguz Dude are you insane? Timur has killed more Muslims in history than anyone bar Genghis Khan. He massacred the entire populations of Baghdad, Damascus, and Delhi. All he did was conquer and pillage. He left no institutions behind, no cultural or scientific advancements, nothing but rivers of blood and towers of skulls. If you want someone to give the title Sheikh-ul-Islam to, give it to Mehmed II, or better yet Suleiman the Lawgiver. That is a ruler to admire. He committed atrocities in war, yes. But he also patronised architects, reformed the Ottoman administration, promoted tolerance, and patronised artists and scientists. If you look at Istanbul today, you see the impressive legacy of Mehmed and Suleiman, a beautiful city rich in culture and history, whereas Timur's legacy is nothing but genocide.
Timur was just another steppe barbarian like the Mongols he admired so much, living in a violent culture that prized conquest over actual governance.
@@partibananathurai5862 sure. At least not insane yet. I feel some subjective emotional response from you here. He was just another efficient warrior and a king. You should also look at positives as well. Warrior is a Warrior. Also did not understand what's wrong with someone being "steppe"? You seriously need to expand your horizon
@@simplelivinguz He was very efficient, yes. Efficient in massacring women and children and piling up towers of skulls. Timur was a bloodthirsty psychopathic barbarian. Stop idolising him and start idolising Muslim rulers who actually built civilisations, like Suleiman, or Harun al-Rashid, or Abd al-Rahman. There are so many impressive Muslim rulers who were competent, powerful and also tolerant, and yet you choose the warmonger who left nothing behind to worship.
For anyone who plays Med 2 or Mods like Stainless Steel 6.4 did you play so long that you realized that Timur and his Lame Timurids exist in the game.
Temur did so and by doing so he averted the possibilty of future uprisings by doing so If you think outside the box he actually saved many lives of soldiers citizens of both sides.
I am so proud of him. Inshaallah we will be like our greatest ancestors.
Imagine being a poor indian living behind the walls of delhi and u see a black flag with 3 dots coming to attack u
Not to mention the animal rights issue. Poor elephants...
Pls make a video on Nader Shah
You sounds english enough for me to give you a thumbs up. Congrats.
"Pee on his grave" , really , are you serious ? You cannot be disrespectful to the graves and dead bodies of let alone muslims but non-muslims also. May Allah guide us all on the right path 🤲. Peace.
well not talking bad about the dead no matter what is just a Malekit thing
Well said
Calling Tohtamysh a "pretender" is somewhat misleading, since he was in fact the nephew of the ruler. At this time this was more of a dynastic struggle within the ruling family, rather than an attempt at an actual usurpation.
But in some ways this is the fault of the ambiguity of the English term than an error on your part. So I just wanted to tell the whole story, without necessarily saying that you did something incorrect.
Technically speaking, impaling the elephants was arguably one of Timur's major feats.
Very informative . But u go too fast . Plz speak slowly . U will make the listening a better experience.