This is a pretty rare find. The quality isn't too bad either. I love the lyrics to this version. I think it's really cool to see how a song evolves, kind of like In Repair with "One Song, One Day."
Anna Johnson have you heard Lenny/Man on the Side from Any Given Thursday? He was planning on playing The Wind Cries Mary after Lenny, but said he felt Man on the Side more. That's a beautiful thing when a musician can be so fluid as to change his/her setlist so spur of the moment. Amazing.
McKay Carter I totally get that choice actually, I think man on the side would fit way better after the version of Lenny he produced. I think the emotion he poured into lenny definitely fits into man on the side better
This just goes to show that not everything you create has to come out perfect. It really takes guts to question your own piece of art and ask for what it needs to evolve to its best self and do it. This just inspires me to make more music and carve all of it beautifully, just like this man has done. I believe, John! :)
I was at one of the first live shows where he debuted this years ago, and I remember loving it, and then when Belief came out I was like, crap he changed all the words..I love both songs, but this one holds a special place in my heart just because I heard it in the beginning live.
i was gonna play wheel but i changed my mind! damn john you really got me there... your a genius legend comedian sick guitar licker!!! john mayer all the way baby!!!
This is what you call a music maker songwriting man take your own lyrics and make a song from others you're like a fresh breath of air in the deepest darkest dungeon @johnmayer. #johnmayer 👏❤👀
Is there any way to know when it's over? When will you show her? Will you be done? Is there any day that slowly rolls over That will know that your last war was won How will you ever know? How will you know . . . How will you ever know when you're Sleeping at the crash site Walkin on the wreckage Somebody's past life, another one's older Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow Nobody walks there, everybody knows that Is there any way to know when it's over? When will you show her? Will you be done? Is there any day that slowly rolls over That will know that your last war was won How will you ever know? How will you know . . . How will you ever know when you're Sleeping at the crash site Walkin on the wreckage Somebody's past life, another one's older Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow Nobody walks there, everybody knows that OOhhh . . . How will you know? Simmering . . . How will you know, How will you know? Is there anyone who pulled it off easy Spoke what they were thinking and Moved on to the next city and Is there anyone who let them down gently and Moved on to the next, I don't know How will you know? Ooohh How will you know? That you been Sleeping at the crash site Resting on the wreckage Somebody's past life Somebody's old love Resting on the wreckage Somebody's old love Somebody's old love People have the right to fly And will when it gets compromised I was gonna play "Wheel" but now I changed my mind Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Sleepin' at the crash site . . . Restin on the wreckage So much old love So much old love I can feel your body when I'm lying in my bed There's too much confusion running round through Runnin round through . . .
As an aspiring song writer this is pretty inspiring that he basically took a great tune with bad lyrics and switched it up to make it a hit. That's awesome to me.
SO GORGEOUS...SO GORGEOUS! Thank you! And I agree with you. It's fascinating to experience the evolution of a song before it's officially recorded and Belief is a great example. I love the way Belief evolved during the Continuum tours.
Hey John you always say you want to write that song that makes people cry. We’ll stop this train can at times or never on the day you leave….but I’d say for me it’s this song simmering (belief demo) it’s so sad and haunting. It’s so beautiful and yet it’s so heartbreaking 💔 like so soul wrenching!
@@MatthewHelpling maybe for you but belief has better lyrics and the where the light is version is just madness, the sax and trumpets, Robbie's slide guitar, John's amazing playing and the drummer holy shit the drummer. That is a complete song, this song lingers
Crazy he scrapped these lyrics last minute and created belief! Just goes to shows just when you think your creation is complete, you could be completely wrong. Guessing it didn’t feel true to himself, cool to hear this version.
Really nice to see how a song can change, even if its core is basically the same. By the way, dear owner of this channel, how can you get this rare stuff? Just wondering
This one reminds me a lot of Sting. Wait, so is this a live recording? Was he playing this at concerts before it was even fully written? Or he basically had an earlier version of the song and it gradually evolved into Belief?
Omg its so weird hearing this...the lyrics are so different i think the lyrics after this version are better and fit better with the song as a whole...but.maybe it's just cause i'm used to it the other way.....
@nicolasgardner Wow, very cool. It makes my day that that meant something to you. I don't know if you would want any more info on the topic, but Carol Tuttle's book, "It's Just my Nature" is an incredible book. Everything that she offers has made a world of difference in me discovering my own true nature, and then knowing how to express it. Just a thought. Have a good life!
@25Ragz Dude, I've seen you floatin' around Chaferbud's & other JM fan pages all over CZcams and all you do is put them on blast. I'm subscribed to yours along w/all of theirs. The only difference is they don't trash on other channels. You're the only one who talks crap on how bad their content is or how "un-rare" the material is. For most fans, it is rare so give em a break. Low key I understand you want to have the reigning channel but Chaferbud has been loved for years so cut him some slack.
@samiam1432 No, the waste is in never discovering one's own true nature. Somewhere in there you are every bit as amazing as John Mayer, but in your own unique way. I don't mean to sound cliche, but it is so true.
@mickoallen A very small distance of musical notes.. Like the difference between 350Hz and 349Hz. Can't really explain it too well in English anyway =P. But to be honest, there's no singer who sings perfectly clear on the right notes, it's always some 'millitones' higher or lower than the note it should be sang on. Like.. 1Hz to 10Hz difference (just my estimate).
I would have been thrilled just to write a song like “Simmering”. But then he revamps it and it becomes “Belief”. Unbelievable.
Love that "I was gonna play 'Wheel' but I changed my mind". Great. Just great, this man!!! Love you, John.
Anna Johnson have you heard Lenny/Man on the Side from Any Given Thursday? He was planning on playing The Wind Cries Mary after Lenny, but said he felt Man on the Side more. That's a beautiful thing when a musician can be so fluid as to change his/her setlist so spur of the moment. Amazing.
McKay Carter I totally get that choice actually, I think man on the side would fit way better after the version of Lenny he produced. I think the emotion he poured into lenny definitely fits into man on the side better
@@user-ce6ry8eh2r knowing what I just read, I'm extremely glad he chose to play man on the side.
I like the guitar. Rough, unsteady, wrong, true. Love all of that.
The guitar part in this is so great that it's a shame he doesn't play it anywhere else
great find man! thank you
Leon Lush My respect for u 📈
Yo Leon Lush is a JM fan???
Leon lush here??
god i love andrew tate and john mayer . why is this weirdo here
This just goes to show that not everything you create has to come out perfect. It really takes guts to question your own piece of art and ask for what it needs to evolve to its best self and do it. This just inspires me to make more music and carve all of it beautifully, just like this man has done.
I believe, John! :)
I was at one of the first live shows where he debuted this years ago, and I remember loving it, and then when Belief came out I was like, crap he changed all the words..I love both songs, but this one holds a special place in my heart just because I heard it in the beginning live.
Do you have the audio to the version? He starts out saying something like " I don't know what Im pkaying we're just gonna play“
"I was gonna play wheel but I changed my mind" hahah pretty awesome
Was totally expecting "is their anyone..."
lmao fr
i was gonna play wheel but i changed my mind! damn john you really got me there... your a genius legend comedian sick guitar licker!!! john mayer all the way baby!!!
+yuri shuffle i don't understand it xD can you explain?
John hilarious Mayer 😍👏
i must say i like the old chorus. i also like how he has no idea where he's going and references 3 or 4 other tunes.
I love the rawness of this... it's better because of the Guitar playing here is slightly different .
I'm gonna be his next and final drummer (McCartney has had the same band for years now) for John's music. He just doesn't know it yet!
Any demos? Id hire you
amazing.. 10 years after. this music just grows on me.. this is the early stages of ''belief'' wow. so wonderfull..
This is what you call a music maker songwriting man take your own lyrics and make a song from others you're like a fresh breath of air in the deepest darkest dungeon @johnmayer. #johnmayer 👏❤👀
Big find on the seemingly impossible quest to hear every JM original.
Thanks a lot chaferbud.
But more importantly. How the fuck did you find this!?
Love hearing alternative songs that John is so good at doing.
Thats why the guy never gets old to me.
Is there any way to know when it's over?
When will you show her?
Will you be done?
Is there any day that slowly rolls over
That will know that your last war was won
How will you ever know?
How will you know . . .
How will you ever know when you're
Sleeping at the crash site
Walkin on the wreckage
Somebody's past life, another one's older
Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow
Nobody walks there, everybody knows that
Is there any way to know when it's over?
When will you show her?
Will you be done?
Is there any day that slowly rolls over
That will know that your last war was won
How will you ever know?
How will you know . . .
How will you ever know when you're
Sleeping at the crash site
Walkin on the wreckage
Somebody's past life, another one's older
Where the fire burned, the grass began to grow
Nobody walks there, everybody knows that
OOhhh . . .
How will you know?
Simmering . . .
How will you know,
How will you know?
Is there anyone who pulled it off easy
Spoke what they were thinking and
Moved on to the next city and
Is there anyone who let them down gently and
Moved on to the next, I don't know
How will you know?
Ooohh
How will you know?
That you been
Sleeping at the crash site
Resting on the wreckage
Somebody's past life
Somebody's old love
Resting on the wreckage
Somebody's old love
Somebody's old love
People have the right to fly
And will when it gets compromised
I was gonna play "Wheel" but now I changed my mind
Sleepin' at the crash site . . .
Sleepin' at the crash site . . .
Sleepin' at the crash site . . .
Restin on the wreckage
So much old love
So much old love
I can feel your body when I'm lying in my bed
There's too much confusion running round through
Runnin round through . . .
love the Old Love reference at the end
Ww
❤❤❤
Such emotion in the delivery of the first 13 seconds
That Wheel colaboration, if you can call it that, was ingenious! JM never fails to blow my mind.
As an aspiring song writer this is pretty inspiring that he basically took a great tune with bad lyrics and switched it up to make it a hit. That's awesome to me.
this song has great lyrics you're crazy.
Last minute too! Shows ur work is never done unless it speaks true to you.
@@ericmills7852 nah bro it's trash he's just improvising here to make something cohesive, it's not supposed to be good
wow, just when I thought I've heard everything from Mayer, then comes this treasure. thx.
SO GORGEOUS...SO GORGEOUS! Thank you! And I agree with you. It's fascinating to experience the evolution of a song before it's officially recorded and Belief is a great example. I love the way Belief evolved during the Continuum tours.
Hey John you always say you want to write that song that makes people cry. We’ll stop this train can at times or never on the day you leave….but I’d say for me it’s this song simmering (belief demo) it’s so sad and haunting. It’s so beautiful and yet it’s so heartbreaking 💔 like so soul wrenching!
it's like another awesome side of 'belief'. wow ! ! !
wow, more love this version.
crazy CRAZY solo man... LOVE IT
Omg. That solo, are you kidding me? And then a Clapton plug? Holy shit.
Thanks so much chaferbud.
Three songs in one PLUS two solos. Only John.
This one is one of my favorites too. Sounds amazing :)
MAN I LOVE THE WAY THIS SOUNDS
MY GOD.. he's also put in 'old love' in it...... this is beyond brilliant !!! i LOVE IT
I like the lyrics he wrote for belief
that sounds so insane
Anyone catch the 'Wheel' reference?
"Airports seen it all the time" ... line from WHEEL. come on bro...
STILL one of my fav songs...much better than "Belief"
Only the true Mayer fans are gonna pick that out.
@@MatthewHelpling maybe for you but belief has better lyrics and the where the light is version is just madness, the sax and trumpets, Robbie's slide guitar, John's amazing playing and the drummer holy shit the drummer. That is a complete song, this song lingers
The people have the right to line?
amazing how this is so different from belief.i need to re-listen.
I have had this on a cd from l-83 for years...I cannot believe that someone said this "used" to be Belief..no this was wayyyy before Belief..
What is this "l-83?" And where does on acquire such a thing?
This version is just as good as Belief for me, just in a different way. The atmosphere surrounding it is really interesting. Maybe because it's live?
Absolutely
I'm only listening to this now. :') wow.
Crazy he scrapped these lyrics last minute and created belief! Just goes to shows just when you think your creation is complete, you could be completely wrong. Guessing it didn’t feel true to himself, cool to hear this version.
This made my day! Thanks for sharing (John?) :)
I LOVE THIS VERSIONN
Love this one
wow the acoustic version of belief has a similar solo
Wow!!! ❤ very nice!!!
awesome find dude
Still killed it in the solo section. Keeps me comin back
remi j when does he not kill a solo lol
My faveourite! Beautiful :)
Really nice to see how a song can change, even if its core is basically the same. By the way, dear owner of this channel, how can you get this rare stuff? Just wondering
I screamed when he started singing wheel lyrics
Cmon what about Old Love by Clapton?
I like how he throws in Clapton lyrics too
hermosa version!
the run from 4:30-4:50 is so sick
John MAJOR!
Nice find!
lol "i was gona play wheel, now i changed my mind"
This one reminds me a lot of Sting. Wait, so is this a live recording? Was he playing this at concerts before it was even fully written? Or he basically had an earlier version of the song and it gradually evolved into Belief?
Omg its so weird hearing this...the lyrics are so different i think the lyrics after this version are better and fit better with the song as a whole...but.maybe it's just cause i'm used to it the other way.....
Leads to way more than SIMMERING
@nicolasgardner Wow, very cool. It makes my day that that meant something to you. I don't know if you would want any more info on the topic, but Carol Tuttle's book, "It's Just my Nature" is an incredible book. Everything that she offers has made a world of difference in me discovering my own true nature, and then knowing how to express it. Just a thought. Have a good life!
@25Ragz Dude, I've seen you floatin' around Chaferbud's & other JM fan pages all over CZcams and all you do is put them on blast. I'm subscribed to yours along w/all of theirs. The only difference is they don't trash on other channels. You're the only one who talks crap on how bad their content is or how "un-rare" the material is. For most fans, it is rare so give em a break. Low key I understand you want to have the reigning channel but Chaferbud has been loved for years so cut him some slack.
3/14/04 - Brandeis University
it's interesting how different it sounds compared to the released Belief song
I don't remember. I was looking up JM rarities and I heard of one called "Simmering" and I just searched everywhere for it. Got lucky i guess!
it's like every feeling i've felt about life he makes into a good fucking pop song.
This is how Belief in alternate universe sounds like
i like this solo alot better .
sick
Melodic drift.
I kinda like this one better. its a little bit more funk-ish to me than the original. I also like the melody.
if you think this is a studio recording then YOU'RE the one on crack my friend.
Thank you for telling me.
The piece of Old love was fine, too. =)
But the guitar solos are AWESOME!
Anyone catch the 'Old love" reference?
the song that got him banned from the WEF and the media.. this was it..
haha sounds sick but im used to the lyrics of Belief :)
lovemayer !!
@samiam1432
No, the waste is in never discovering one's own true nature. Somewhere in there you are every bit as amazing as John Mayer, but in your own unique way. I don't mean to sound cliche, but it is so true.
2:51 Wheel lyrics then his punch line! 😂🙌
LMFAO OMFG "I was gonna play wheel but i changed my mind"
@zonedout245 "I was gonna play wheel, but i changed my mind" lol mad funny he started to play it then wanted to solo
boa dms cara, vaiP PAPULLLLLL
Cala boca aí loco
@mickoallen A very small distance of musical notes.. Like the difference between 350Hz and 349Hz. Can't really explain it too well in English anyway =P. But to be honest, there's no singer who sings perfectly clear on the right notes, it's always some 'millitones' higher or lower than the note it should be sang on. Like.. 1Hz to 10Hz difference (just my estimate).
should have kept this solo in the final version
bit of "Old Love" by Eric Clapton and Robert Cray at 4:15.
something tells me its secretly john who made a separate youtube channel to release demos and stuff just for fun, for fans
yes
Around 2003 he did another version it was unreleased and I can't find it ANYWHERE😭😭😭😭😭
This is so addictive. where can I download it?
definitely what he's getting at. pretty much stating religion can create a backlash towards many issues and a never ending cycle of war
@lockheedrocketchick i want to thank you for this comment from the bottom of my heart !:)
i only remember of Crash Twinsanity, I don't know why...
that arpeggio at 3:43 was too klean
Me too.
Wish I could hear all of the lyrics.
4:15 old love -eric clapton
ah ah awesome " i was gonna sing Wheel, now i changed my mind" XD
Just thinking of the song in this way...just so weird....
No because this song is in D MINOR!
i've been all over the net..
so much better than what made the cd (belief)
i was gonna play wheel now i change my mind