Tibetan buddhist monks debating

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As I watched Tibetan monks in debate practice at the Dalai Lama's temple in McLeod Ganj, I stood mesmerized... The were having fun in play and then it exploded into a strong and forceful passion.
From starvation strikes, monks in self-immolative acts of protest (i.e. there was a rally and fast over a recent death of a young monk, who set fire to himself in demonstration over China's occupancy a month ago. Unfortunately his protest went unnoticed by the media) and now this... It seems, Tibetan Buddhism stem from a fiery and defiant heart.
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[@receiverpictures]

It's cool how they stay smiling and don't seem angry. Is that part of the point of the practice?

[@theodorewinston3891]

thank you grrrltraveler and wangchuk lama!!!
for those less familiar with indo-tibetan philosophy, these are all very codified, precise, philosophical terms. "subject", "conceptualize", "permanent, "impermanent", "one pointed", "mind" cannot be understood in trivial, everyday terms. on top of that, they can only ever be *attempts* to translate the tibetan terms which are less ambiguous in their own language. for example, when you read "permanent" vs "impermanent" these are common english academic translations, but are less about the way, for example, marker ink may be stable vs wash off and more about being "unchanging from moment-to-moment" (like the fact that a person went jogging yesterday) vs "changing from moment-to-moment" (like an actual physical person that can move, change position, get healthier but also is in a constant state of subatomic flux). the philosophy tested in tibetan logical debate can be a very precise and very technical discussion of categories and examples, akin to a lawyers understanding laws and interpreting their applications. the act of debating itself is comparable to a witness being cross-examined in a courtroom or a hearing. on the one hand one must answer the question, stick to the facts and only answer the question at hand, and on the other it trains the debate participants to remain unflustered and keep a clear mind while under a fiery barrage of questioning and counter-argumentation. sounds emotionally tough, but it's just playful posturing between friends and colleagues within a game-like situation, with the collective intention that everyone involved gets closer to understanding (to logical and internally consistent understandings about the nature of mind and reality) and the transformative and soteriological goal behind that understanding. a quick minded westerner needs at least a year to get proficient in this form of rigorous logical debate. anyway, so much for the critique that buddhism is a form of anti-intellectualism.

[@wangchuklama1694]

They are debating with regard to whether one pointed mind able to conceptualize "Two different subject" simultaneously. The attacker asked the defender DOES SOUND IS SUBJECT TO CONCEPTUALIZE AS A BOTH PERMANENT AND IMPERMANENT SIMULTANEOUSLY BY THE ONE POINTED MIND ?. DEFENDER REPLIED, YES.. THEN ATTACKER AGAIN, THEN THERE SHOULD BE EXIST A MIND WHICH ASSERT THAT AN ARTICLE IS BOTH REAL AND UNREAL SIMULTANEOUSLY. DEFENDER REPLY, NO THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE,, so and so forth..

[@harishkiran3663]

Thanks, that is a valid debate.

[@grrrltraveler]

The monks are debating over some issue, but not really sure exactly what's going on. It's usually between two people- one sits (there's a guy sitting in the middle) and the other stands. Apparently the topic has really sparked that they've grown a crowd.

[@grrrltraveler]

I agree, it's quite passionate! ;)

[@sisterforall]

This is the debates i would like to see in occupy movements,
a live and now. s.f.a.

[@Vibez727727]

Wonder what's going on?!

[@nijokongapally4791]

Dalai lama people👍💯💖😍

[@SomeUser9753]

Convert them to Christianity

[@grrrltraveler]

SomeUser9753 then, I think they'd go to war, no? Maybe I'm thinking Catholicism?

[@SomeUser9753]

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[@harishkiran3663]

That works only with the ignorant poor.

[@nard6934]

That doesn't make sense

[@Blue_Ocean720]

@@grrrltraveler why would they go to war?