I Got Rescued! What is Search and Rescue?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 07. 2024
- King County Explorer Search and Rescue was kind enough to let me film one of their trainings and demoed a lower and raise with me in the litter. SAR systems are fully redundant and have a large safety ratio they stay within. It's interesting to observe how they maintain that the entire time because as a slackline highliner, I'm redundantly safe with a 3:1 safety ratio...most of the time; but occasionally I'm standing near a cliff edge not tied in. SAR doesn't want more people injured when they help someone injured. I also learned how much people give of themselves as it is all volunteer based and you can find out how you can volunteer or donate to KCESAR kcesar.org/ and / kingcountyesar . Also check out your local unit and get involved.
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I'm that average desk guy again. Guys, really, this video was awesome. NOT enough action. Shout out to the SAR guys thankyou and I hope you all keep safe.
Hey Ryan, you should maybe try a video style similar to @smartereveryday. If someone else was in the litter and you were just standing by, watching, and asking question after question on the tasks, skills, and gear usage the SAR folks are performing, I think you would be able to extract a lot more of the fine details of their work.
Also, Smartereveryday needs to come with you some time for a big rigging project, It would be cool to see the perspective from someone who is still really smart but completely out of the loop on extreme sports. Id watch the fuck out of that. WE NEED THE COLAB
That would be one really cool colab!
Plus he loves snatch blocks!
I'm ALL IN on this colab!!
I worked Yosemite SAR, part -time, in the early 1980s. Mostly was lost hikers and occasionaly helped with high angle rescue (I got to carry ropes... woo hoo). We found one guy 40 meters into the woods near the Manure Pile Buttress parking lot. He was completely passed out with his pants down and a couple of empty or near empty Jack Daniels bottles laying about his body. But he had shit himself and the part-timers/volunteers got to roust him and clean up the area. Good times.
I guess it's called Manure Pile Buttress for a reason
So it's not all helicopter rides and 3000' rappel rescues? :) At least that shit rescue happened at Manure Pile for good jokes later.
Great video, one of the things not touched on in this video that our local SAR team does that I have always appreciated is writing and publishing detailed incident reports, itâs one thing to know that accidents happen but having professionally written documentation I think is one of the best ways to learn about some hazards in your area.
For all climbers, SAR uses higher safety factors, so the systems are more robust. Sometimes a SAR member may go climbing or canyoneering and do an overkill rigging.
Excellent overview of SAR, how they are put together, funded, and how (in most places) it doesnât cost the person money to be rescued.
This is similar (if not the same) as my local SAR team in BC
With very few exceptions, all SAR teams across the country that are NOT located in a national park have a 100% "unpaid professional" volunteer membership. It's the training and attitude that makes a professional, not a paycheck! SAR teams are organized under each county's sheriff's department as required by a federal law and regulated by FEMA. Because teams work side by side with law enforcement, SAR members must go through a rigorous background check to be sworn in. With very few exceptions, those teams are funded solely by a supporting 501c3 and the members of most teams are required to provide their own personal equipment.(Usually that means harnesses, uniforms, packs, etc and other personal use items.) Your time and donations matter, so please, support and/or join your local SAR team!
07/13/2022 Hello Prusik I like this comment. I did not know who sanctioned the teams. Other things were good information. I will need to research the teams in my city. Thanks Don
@@dongrider9040 Best of luck to you Don!
Outstanding. I'm a member of a nearby technical rescue team, Central Washington Mountain Rescue, and I've had the pleasure of being on rescues with KCESAR folks. Like Joe said, there are a lot of ways to do the job and lots of opinions out there, but this was a great demonstration of rescue technique.
Thanks @HowNOT2 and KCESAR!!
Awesome form Monterey County SAR Mountain Rescue Team!
Great video! Props and thanks to all the SAR teams out theređđœ
Much respect for fellow SaR volunteers over the pond
Great job on the video Ryan! I love that you're branching out and exposing your audience to all of these other rope related things!
So awesome to see this! I lived in King County for 18 years and just moved to the Zion area a few months ago and joined the SAR team down there and I'm loving it!
Thank you for giving people an idea of what a SAR does and what it takes to run one.
Very cool to see this stuff in as real a situation as practical.
SAR workers are angels.
Awesome video! Really enjoy that you go out of your way to meet with experts in underappreciated fields and give them their due diligence, this was very fun and informative to watch.
Also this isn't related to the video but I got the chance to use "SUPER good enough" during an interview. I now have the job. Thank you Ryan!
Good work Joe and Valon! Glad I came cross the link.
SAR here! Excellent video! Also awesome about rockytalky to support SAR units like that! You have no idea how much funding is a problem!
Really cool to see and hear how SAR is done. Cool video. One funny thing I can't unsee, although I realise that it is his phone, at 11:48 it looks like Ryan is just chilling with a cigar while beeing rescued. đ
It's interesting to hear about volunteer SAR on the other side of the pond, specially on the rigging side of things. In my country it's mostly based around rope access principles for a lot of teams
10:14 Money is what I would be worried about too. SUPER relieving to know that it's okay to call for help and it won't financially ruin me. This was a great video entirely!
Thanks!
Always great to see the dedicated rescue teams. Iâm kind of disturbed that not all rescues are free. In Australia the State Emergency Service is a mostly volunteer force funded by local and state government. Rescue is always free.
love it!
Super cool video đ
Great video. I'm in Kitsap County just a short ways away from King County and I am seriously considering giving it a shot here now I know how it works
Our training season here in Kitsap just wrapped up for the year, but if you're interested in joining definitely reach out! We start taking applications in the spring and summer since it takes a little while to get the paperwork and background checks done before training starts in October.
There's actually three different units on this side of the water: Kitsap WESAR (ground searching + low angle rope work, my unit), Olympic Mountain Rescue (more technical specializing in high angle, avalanche terrain, etc), and Kitsap County Search Dogs (K-9) but all of them are volunteers and love new people.
Super cool video
UK is all voluntary⊠Look up Buxton Mountain Rescue Team for some insights⊠they have some great videos on kit, team organisation, kit and using new tech⊠also the Gravity suit is interesting kit being trialled with the UK North West Air Ambulance (might not catch on but spectacular stuff!)
czcams.com/video/gtvCnZqZnxc/video.html
Great video, I volunteer on SAR I the UK and would love to see more of your rigging techniques, just out of interest to how teams in other countries work as I can tell it is vastly different.
We also all pretty much operate as individual entities here althogh do have regional and national organisations to support and set guidelines etc, even so there is often a big difference between working practice.
We have about 113 volunteer teams covering the entire UK. From MREW, BCRC and ALSAR this is not including costsguard SAR and RNLI teams who are also volunteers!
In Catalonia (region of Spain) the SAR is sort of the firefighters elite team. And I bet they do have a good paying. At the end they put their own lifes at risk dayly for other people.
I do find it interesting that you can just volunteer and get the training though, although I wonder how much it may cost to get it.
We do have volunteer firefighters here, which you probably also have in the USA. Thanks for the video, interesting to meet this sĂșper nice guys!
I canât believe you are also a Washingtonian!
David Bringold
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unbelievable, they do a high directional without any vortex tropod and shiny stuff.. looks like SbS! (Safety by Skill) rather than Safety by Gear..
respect from swizzerland
Nice super good enough shirt :)
I missed the part where they talk about the 10 essentials, what would those be?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Essentials
so do they do flood and downed trees like Australian ses?
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Nice to see parallel plaquettes and a Purcell bridal.
Whatâs the 10 things??? Iâv got my own âlistâ, but would like to cross it with people who train like this. Thanks for vid Ryan! Love your work!
Search for 10 essentials of hiking, lots of info out there
@@gpasquin for sure. But I want his 10 things!! đ€
â@@1on1adventures48 wiki has a page for "ten essentials", which is pretty much *the* list. on that page there is also a section of other lists which augment/ modify the original list for various local conditions/ terrains/ etc.
how waterproof are these rocky talkies?
Jeepers, looks scary being rescued!
Next time we need to get you out and do a pike and pivot system
good
07/13/2022 Hello How. I liked this video. The staging was excellent. I liked the interviews.This training showed all of the aspects of a rescue set up and leadership. I do not know what the local abilities are but in a city of this size it must be excellent. One thing I have noticed missing many of the rescue team's videos is the EMT side for the first assessment. Who goes down first with the bag? Is the first responder belayed down from the top on a rope with a second safety rope? This cat is responsible for 1: stop the bleeding. 2 clear airway. 3 Secure the neck 4 check for broken bones and splints while the rescue team prepares the basket and the lifting mechanism and safety protocols on top. I do not know how I would react, probably a panic if injured, but willing to take my part in the basket calmly. If the rescue requires a climb from the bottom to access the patient, do they have experienced climbers in the first team? Once the climber is at the scene, who is the EMT and first assessment and first aid to the patient. Also who is next up to set anchors above the patient? 3 on a wall or a ledge for a rescue of an injured patient seems like a cluster. That climber must first secure his safety, This may never happen but some of your videos do show wall impact from a fall. If you have rescued a fellow climber with a head injury, do you place the rescue anchors for yourself and the patient. What about when the patient climber may have a failure from a failed anchor causing the fall? Would you trust his anchor 2 or 3 rescue workers. I am just curious about this upon arrival to the patient who is in a dangerous situation at best. How do you protect yourself from a panic patient from just grabbing on to you? This may make a very good video ln multiple parts. Sincerely Don
07/13/2022 How. On a second thought. I want to give a big shout out to the teams and your team of sports people. WAY TO GO GUYS AND GIRLS. ALSO A BIG THANK YOU !!!!!
There are generally a few EMTs on the SAR teams that are on any given callout. We even have a couple doctors and nurses in our SAR units. For some serious calls the local Medics respond with us.
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How come Bobby didn't video his rescue?
Most SAR teams are unpaid volunteers. Gear and SAR books are paid for by the volunteers in my experience.
Is there any benefit of using an ATC instead of, for example, an ID?
Weight,
Why no link to the 10 essentials of outdoor recreation?
It wasn't the focus of the video and it's a very googleable thing.
How did they do the lifting? 5:1 z-drag?
This is the first of many SAR videos. Just wanted the big picture as the first one. Now we can get into the nerdy stuff.
Typically we do a 3:1, 5:1, 9:1 depending on the load
You mention the 10 essentials... what are they?
www.nps.gov/articles/10essentials.htm
It would have been cool to see the changeover operation topside. I assume they engaged the load release hitch and set up a 3:1 from the ATC's in series. Everybody has converted to a Clutch these days so it's surprising to see anything otherwise.
Us rigging nerds like to see what others are doing, even if it brings out the safety nazi's. Hopefully you can work with these guys in the future.
The vt prusik is already in place in front of the atcs. Just put a pmp in place of the atc and you are good to go
Here in Germany, the ATC ist still the standard for mountain rescue, mainly because of it's light weight. And of course it's super versatile as a personal gear item. A "normal" technical / high angle rescue team here would of course be using clutches or similar. Some mountain rescue teams, like the one I'm on, also use clutches, but that's because we can usually get pretty close to the patient by vehicle and can afford to carry heavy gear. We still have and practise the ATC systems though, mainly because that's what's taught by our larger organisation.
Sorry, what are the 10 essentials we should take?
www.nps.gov/articles/10essentials.htm
Nice vid - I thought this channel was based in Utah?
I do some projects in Utah, Yosemite and now here in Seattle. My lab is in California.
Love this, however I do have to ask, how many waivers did you sign to be the victim, most places use a trauma tom or another type of dummy so if there is an accident you do not have a live person in the basket....that way you don't kill someone in training..
Usually the rigging "victim" is a SAR team member. Exceptions are made for media.
We often use team members as victims, saves us carrying trauma tom to the 'incident' site. Exception being if we're staying at base. Makes it more realistic too. Everything is done in a super safe manner with no real risk to the victim.
Is Snohomish Country SAR also 100% free?
Yes, SAR is free in all of Washington as well as the vast majority of US States
How have you been digging Washington?!?
now that the sun is out... a lot more :)
Thank you for exposing SAR, I put in a few years myself - it's a great community. I love how not to's content, more quiet majority of real people please!
What are the ten essentials.
www.nps.gov/articles/10essentials.htm
If only the government would divert some of billions of the military budget to something that actually saves lives x.x
Local law enforcement budgets could be re-allocated.
@@bloodink9508 stop we already know that's a terrible idea. Cops are just as underfunded as firefighter first responders search and rescue. If you want to help write your local county or city officials encouraging them to help support firefighters and first responders.
@@TheSubieFan cops are not underfunded. They just claim to be. They are revenue generators. Iâm all for allocating more funds to people who help people. Letâs divert the money they make from fines and civil forfeitures into those first responders budgets and social work. Do that and watch the number of tickets given out plummet.
@@bloodink9508 right eventime I hear that cops are underfunded I always wonder why they are always driving such expensive cars. The cops in my area all have 2020 chargers, mustangs and Suburbans and 2 helicopters and that's in a relatively small area not by any major cities.
They could use the money from parking tickets alone in Philly. The PPA is no joke.
Ryan, thanks for giving us SAR some attention. I love your style and I think you have done a ton to keep yourself safe... but I still worry that some time I may get a callout and realize it's you.
Hey Kings County (WA), good looking team you got there. do you use clutches? or something else? I didn't see the rigging much in this.
This video couldn't get into the rigging without getting into the weeds. I wanted to show SAR attention to properly introduce it into the channel then if this video is good for them or other SAR units (troll patrol) then we can get into the weeds and nerdy stuff in the actual rigging which is the long term goal having a SAR section of HowNOT2
@@HowNOT2 oh, I was not complaining. I get it. videos are hard to do right. and this is supper tricky stuff. for for years I have been hoping you would cover SAR ropes. I knew you would after the irata training and the VT prussic video. looking forward to seeing what you do here. keep up the good work.
Mostly due to weight we donât use clutches, king county does own a few MPDs but they donât get used often due to the fact they weigh 5lbs each
Wait. If an SAR does not cost me anything, I can call them without being afraid to go broke over a twisted ankle! It's almost like free/public healthcare was a good thing đ€
id love to volenteer for a SAR unit if i didnt have to work for the cops. too bad they arent run by the fire dept
07/13/2022 Dear How or should I say Know How. I have a question. How many emergency team members is necessary to set up a rescue scenario? The fire depts videos are usually too many people and are obviously slow during training. There must be a method to the madness to make a first response team. If you fell, how many team members would it take for an unconscious patient named How bleeding with a broken leg? All videos are training with a crowd working on the training. Sometimes 3 or 4 guys in full turnout gear with all rescue team helping to critique the knots. No rapid set up is shown. First aid is never mentioned. I am just curious. Is there any 1 or 2 persons could rig a way to move a patient up from a cliff with no access from below. Just thinkinng out loud. Again I love your videos. Don
6 is an absolute minimum for a litter carry out.
They are showing a lower and raise, which requires also 6 people.
Just a lower with walk out is 2 people.
In SAR you never ever work alone. 4 people per group is optimal, because you might need to split up.
Too many in one group slows the group down.
Generally we try to bring in more SAR members, because it is exhausting work to carry a litter in sun, rain, snow, day and night.
I hope this helps.
Greeting from a fellow Tahoe El Dorado County SAR member.
@@shelmstedt Thanks man. Great information. Sometimes my dumb questions, like now is very beneficial for the mind. That is to think about real stuff and not on tv. I was a first responder for years until an accident. I can not bend over for the cpr. I also had to resign from the volunteer departments that I helped train. My back is much better but now I am old! Thanks again, big help.Thanks Don
If we had to do a trail pack out in king county it can take 30-50 people or even more depending how long the trail is. And that doesnât count the people in the command post
@@kevinwatson3190 EDSAR does not even have that many members đ
@@dongrider9040 Let's just say that I'm retired with gray hair, I still respond. There are several ways to support a SAR mission. Every member is CPR certified and most missions have a couple dozen responders.
Glad I don't have to worry about being charged money for a rescue because I don't bring my phone with me when I go places anyway!
never understood how you can work a fulltime job and still find the time to learn and do something like this. I get two days off a week and my workdays are 8-10 hours long. I guess you just skip on sleep? Zero social life? lol I cant wrap my brain around it
Canada - rescue: no charge
Doctor.....
you really gonna make us wait until winter to release the ice screw break tests? đ
I have 45 videos to edit. I think it's more appropriate to share stuff when it is seasonally relevant. Do you really need to know before december?
â@@HowNOT2 I'm sidelined w/ a newborn and injury recovery until *at least* mid-winter, so begging you for those long awaited ice videos is all I have. at least another teaser, come on lol
Interesting video as always. But maybe turn down the music in the intermissions or turn up the voices. The music was just too loud compared to the voice
Wouldn't it be more realistic if one of them took the victim out, smacked him in the knee with a crowbar and tossed him off the cliff first? Then they'd get to train properly on the search and medical aspects, as well as loading an injured victim onto the litter.
I mean, come on Ryan, earn those views.
Dont step on the ROPE!
beer is owed.
Right in the beginning: "This is the line nobody crosses until they are tied in." *crosses it during his next sentence :D
No he doesn't.
Every highliner: the line is easy to spot it is the cliff.
I think there is much to learn in the highline community from these guys :D
@@EverettWilson dont take it seriously - enjoy some jokes