How To KNOW When They’re BLUFFING! With James ROMERO
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- I sat down with PokerCoaching coach James Romero to discuss an incredible hand from the 2021 World Series Of Poker!
In this spot, James flops middle set and wants to pile his money in on a draw heavy board! We discuss the optimal poker strategy when you have a very strong hand and want to get paid, as well as how you should be thinking about recreational opponent’s ranges in spots where their line makes no sense!
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What would YOU do with 7♠ 7♣ on the flop?
Your Stack (UTG): 740,000
Their Stack (BB): 740,000
Pot: 115,000
Board: J♣ 7♥ 4♣
BB checks, You bet 30,000, BB raises to 75,000
A) Call
B) Raise to … ?
A) call if he’s a tight nit
B) raise 3X if he’s a lunatic
Wat happen preflop?
This was both educational and entertaining... You both should do more videos together... 👏😁
Because there’s a flash drive out there I would reraise 2X
3bet to 140k
I love how great poker players can range from flamboyant personalities like DNegs and Helmuth to guys who you couldn’t tell the difference if they won the main event or if their mom died, like this dude and Faraz.
LMFAOOO i died at the beginning of this video.... the way John looks at him when he said Kenny LMFAO
Brynn Kenny - Wrong answer that was hilarious 😂 🤣
Just found your account, very helpful to learn more in depth about making good plays!
Welcome aboard!
lmao 0:22 too jokes great editor
dude I enjoy enjoy ty this is facts no joke I learn everytime u come on here especially bringing the big caliber players that are not just money but skillllllll..logistics I'm ordering this no bs all facts
I prefer to reraise small over calling because I think many amateur players make more calling mistakes than betting mistakes. However I don't want him to fold all of his draws, so I don't want to raise huge.
I'd call, mostly because I have no idea what"s going on and I'm not folding a set.
"You gotta give them a way to lose their minds."
Blows my mind that I try to do my best to play as decent as I can in 5$ bounty builder where these guys pay 1.5k$ literally to punt their a** off against world class players. Insane!
Money is relative.
@@PokerCoaching Yes, distant cousin to my wallet
@@Mark-bh8mb lmao I enjoyed this
Thanks for the great content without the commercials!
You're welcome.
These are all fantastic but I think Jonathan and James have great chemistry with James as the straight man. Outstanding.
Romero’s so chill
Thanks Alan!
Call. If he is running a bluff then let him put his neck in deeper. If he has JJ which is possible then a call minimises any damage later on. If he is on the Club draw then seeing the turn cheaply might also induce more bluffing/raising
Would love to see Dr. Romero give a poker coaching webinar on exploitative bet sizing!
easy call, in case he is bluffing we give him the change to do it again on the turn/river. James doesnt think he has a over pair. I do think he has AA (in that case we can rr and asssume he calls off)
7.5bb on the flop. Call and give the opponent some rope 😎 Solide play
The min click click back can make a lot of splashy fishy players absolutely spazz out. Otherwise I’d mostly call his click back, not big raise it’s too strong vs a weak range. A side note. Skeleton in closet. The only strong hand in his range is jacks. Seen people make small squeezes with jacks cause they’re scared of bad flops in big pots. Absolute tiny part of his range though.
I'd add tens to that, too.
@@johns783 yes except he won’t do that on turn with tens. Or atleast shouldnt. Flop makes sense. Also I don’t see people do this pre with tens personally. They flat a lot or if they’re actually good they squeeze properly.
@@windy6455 yea you're totally right, I thought pre was reasonable for 10s and the river action also, but flop/turn action totally doesn't make sense for 10s.
When it's me they flip over JJ and gg bye bye. :)
In small stakes I jam the flop and they snap call and runner runner 8 - T they bust me, gg :)
Don't be results oriented! 🤣 I know you're just joking, so I had to say it.
@@jppagetoo "poker is not a sprint, it's a marathon, focus on long term yadda yadda yadda" 😅
My $0.02: as players become more and more studied, it's harder to get an edge. If you pick non-standard raise sizes, they are suboptimal with respect to perfect play, but it is a bet. It is a bet that the efficiency given up by the betting player is less than the loss of efficiency by the player who now has to respond to the non-standard raise size.
If you make a point of studying the ranges with which you can make a 10x raise size, you can reasonably assume your opponents will NOT have studied those. They will instead have studied more standard raise sizes, which forces them to make an adjustment they haven't studied for.
when coach said whos number one ???? brent kenny hmmmmm coach J.LIL THAT was a classic moment coach.....
Excellent and by far most the most educational Vlog I’ve you produce.
Glad you enjoyed it
Terrific analysis and hand. Are you ever worried they have Jack's here with the way it was played?
Calling is fine against someone who will continue to overbluff big on future streets. I like a small 3-bet to 210,000, however, because the board is so wet. I think this is more likely to induce mistakes from most of his range rather than calling.
One of your best videos Jonathan
Thanks, Mohsen!
I will call on this spot because raise here will look very strong and scare off most of the drawing hands or made hands that are behind.
Call, he's likely to bet bigger on the turn and can call t call r, or rr turn depending.
I feel like pocket jacks could play this way. Check raise the flop, even tho on smaller side, then big bet turn, all in river. Thats about the only value hand that makes sense to me tho.
Would have been fun one if villain actually showed up with JJ which wouldn't be that bad line if you aim to make it three street play with flop x-r.
But yeah wonder about calling 77 versus 120k 3bet pre. Obviously we cannot do that as purely or almost purely as set mine as implied odds are just too small.
I think I'd call the reraise on the flop. Wait to see if he bets or checks the turn.
I’ve always wondered about these little raises like this. First off it’s so hard to range them cause ive never once done it. Tends to be sometimes JJ+ AQ+ but mostly just taking betting lead with marginal hands. Second off there is a point to be made about them 1: taking the betting lead and 2: now narrowing your range heavily when you just call. Is there merit?
In this case, I am sure of it, he tried to make it look making value out of his hand postflop. And then he dug himself a grave because there are two things you can't predict your opponent to have: a flopped set or pocket overpair.
@@br4insful ya I don’t mind check raise bluffing after the ultra tiny bet and even following up with big turn bet but when he calls pot on the turn you give the fuck up he’s calling river
@@windy6455 only if BB checks the river it means he missed 100%. So he bluffs allin represing a good flopped hand. Most probably he thought he is kicking out anything but a set. There enough people who'd call 70% of the pot with AK or AQ on turn no matter how crazy it sounds.
@@windy6455 greed is the main enemy of a bluffer :D
Call, You have a club so you have that flush blocker. The only things your are worried about is JJ and XcXc. I would call to keep them in the pot. I don't want to lose this guy to a raise. Generally I don't wan't to slow play a set but he is betting for me so I don't have to worry about a small pot, he's building it for me. I have position if something changes so whey upset the applecart and scare him away?
Probably just call. You have a blocker to the flush and it's unlikely that the BB's pre-flop 3-betting range includes many hands that are suited clubs.
I would call and keep them in with their bluffs. Reraising here comes off as pretty nutted and they probably fold a lot of the hands we want value from if this player even has those hands in their range.
The BB tried to represent at least AJ if not a set. So, there is a logic in his play. Put yourself in his shoes and ask yourself if you would raise 5x AJ or a pocket pair from BB preflop.
So at this point, I do not need to protect my hand (IMHO) and if I spring my trap now I think I may scare him off. I would Hollywood a crying call.
Yesterday, i was low stack with 15bb against this guy mid stack with 29bb
he raises preflop 3×
i call with 9/7 suited of hearts
the flop:
2spades/7diamonds/Kflowers
he checks
i bet 3bb out of my 13bb remaining with my mid pair, he jams all in.
i was so tempted to call, i even put him on A high, but i couldn't make the call.
Guess what he had?
A/9 , if i called, he would've lost turn and river, just loosing with A/9.
Call
I would reraise small, I think. Thanks, JL. This is an interesting spot.
Call flop raise turn
Sometimes when players "tell a story that doesn't make any sense" (taking an extremely weird line) I can't exactly tell if they are just bluffing with 95% random junk or if they have the ultimo mega nuts. Usually, I just go off player type in this situation. Any other tips?
We think he has a thin value hand or a bluff. Which means he’s not going to call big bets, but he may *make* big bets. Let’s let him do that! Pot is 260k after his raise, and will be 300k if we call. He could make a 1x pot bluff for 300 more or a 2x pot shove bluff.
A. CALL
if he had AJ or KJs it wouldn't have been a bluff for him though. And that's what he was trying to represent here.
Nice play...
call.
Hello there Jonathan Little, I'm sharks
call with positional adv. they will likely keep betting next street
A) call
Why have we removed JJ from the V range when he 3! And then XR the flop?
I would call
Ya weird bet sizing oop 2.5x.. I'm thinking he's on point with TT or 99, maybe an overpaid like QQ but he's playing weak and looks like it's not intentional.
My guess is KJ or AJ top pair with a blocker but that's basically telling you he's more concerned about the flushdraw then a pair. He clearly isn't putting him on a pair yet alone a set.
The near pot bet on the turn is just bad, like he's committed to bluffing to get a draw to fold..which is just bad. Call and take his money, give him the rope.
If he has JJ then what a weird play.
Omg..I am dying laughing at that reveal XD
Looking at this from the other perspective, how could the opponent have made this bluff work?
If he had raised larger preflop, then decent cbet size and continued to triple barrel all in, James is still never folding a set right, especially when most of the draws miss?
So is this just one of those cases where sometimes you try to bluff and run into a big hand, oh well unlucky? Or should he have not tried to bluff an EP raiser in the first place? Especially a world class pro 😂
it was a minraise from UTG. Minraise is a 100% guaranty call from BB at least - by pot odds. BB had A9s. He wanted to get rid of the other players but his hand was strong enough to play heads up.
If there were two diamonds on board, it would have been a different story.
Not sure it’s the right move but I would fast play the hand at this point and put in a good size raise
And that’s why I’m watching your videos instead of making them lol
It would have been absolutely hilarious if the villain had JJ and played it really stupid looking to get James to pay him off.
Thank you
You're welcome
@@PokerCoaching I have an amazing game plan I have come up with. I’m going to look for a game I can beat, play said game often, and be mindful of maintaining my bankroll. Thoughts?
Pocket 2s
i wouldve just called.
You're like 20 times as good. (Deadpans) Sure, I'll take it
Pre comment for your algorithm
Legend!
his name is no longer jonathan little its coach J.LIL
Probably re-raise big.
I love it when they trap with middle set and I have top set 🙂
I also love getting dealt auto wins.
@@Van_Behlen lol yeah. “I love it when I get the nuts and my opponent has the second nuts”
I'm go into freaking jam...
James saying the raise makes no sense has me leaning towards call and hope no club comes. Let the crazy dude punt!
call... cas James said, he has a lot of bluffs here, let him bluff
heard in one of the trainings videos "why do the betting when donkey do the pulling"
A) I call
That guy must have money to burn going all in with a ace 9 🤣
QQ+
Urinalysis
Interesting video, as always. Thank you, Jonathan.
However, I couldn't help but notice him saying "spaz out" at around 03:39. I do sometimes hear terms like "spaz," "spazzy" and "spaz out" in American films and telly. Perhaps it's not got the connotation that it does over here on the other side of the pond. It's pretty offensive these days.
A few weeks ago, something wasn't working at home and I said to my partner, "it's spazzed out...er.. I mean, it's flidded out... arrgh, how do I say this politically correctly!???" 😳
how is it offensive? it literally means someone who loses control...is it less offensive if he says "this player is likely to lose control"?...like he's literally critiquing the players play, how do you say a players play is bad without it being offensive?
why should he be betting most of his value on the flop? because there’s lots of james’s hands to get value from?
Yes, and he also has lots of potential draws.
Call the re raise and get him to think you have a flush draw.
He’s advocating for a 7.5x reraise but acts shocked at high limit guys raising 8-10x. 7.5-10 is a big jump but 7.5-8 is essentially the same EV.
...what?
@@PokerCoaching what part? You guys acted surprised at the small 3x reraise then your guest suggested he should have raised it 7.5x but then you make a point about high stakes guys going crazy and raising 8-10x. What part of what I’m saying is confusing you?
@@smalltowndowntown9199 the guest suggested a 6x reraise...he said he would fold 77 to a 7.5x raise, big big difference my friend
Re reiase
Bet half pot
Please someday let me play poker in whatever galaxy or parallel universe it is where I would ever be allowed to:
- actually flop a set with a pocket pair. 11%, are you kidding me? It's more like .000011% in my reality
- NOT get sucked out on
- have my opponent bluff me all in
- win a truly life changing amount of money
This is the stuff of fairy tales and religious cults.
If I'm willing to believe this could ever happen for me, I may as well believe a magic carpenter returned from the dead to take me to heaven when I die????
...what?
cringe
My luck bell curve is pretty bad lately with sets and draws but that's pretty harsh on yourself.. Sets aren't that rare, but you can't chase them all. Just keep trying
@@G0DofRock thanks :)
I can imagine why this guys an amazing poker player.. he doesn't give off any information. Whilst that's great in a poker match.. it's useless in an interview where you are trying to convey educational content.
Just call.
I found an interesting hand for you.
czcams.com/video/QOyV21TC6MY/video.html 46th minute.
The AK guy is a very young player who was if not a beginner but definitely no more than a recriational at that time and froze his account right after the win to find this money a better purpose than to play high stakes online.
I have tried to explain him why AKos can't go all in preflo, limp-minraise best case scenario, from EP at the final table but he doesn't seem to understand why. He got into this tournament because he played another one earlier that week and won a ticket with some along with $100K for the 3rd place.
Call
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