Does BB Weight Effect Accuracy? | CYMA M16A1 Accuracy | AATV EP145
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2021
- We test to see how much difference to accuracy changing BB weight makes in our CYMA CM.009B M16A1 Replica. We use ASG Open Blaster BBs of 0.20g, 0.25g, 0.28g and 0.32g at 10m.
Earlier Range Test with this replica: • CYMA CM009B M16A1 On T...
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Never thought of using my bike maintenance stand as a shooting tripod. 😅
Good watch. 👍
Yeah it’s been in the shed for ages and I’ve never thought about it either :) thanks.
Excellent video! Once again it goes to show the most cost effective upgrade you can do is feed your RIF good BBs!
I’ve got a few BBs stashed away.
It looks like you put so much effort into these videos, covering anything else you would have 100k of subs. Really apricate the content, thanks very much for the vids.
Thanks Theo. I might well start a second channel soon! Sensible mature airsoft content doesn’t really get a lot of traction. I enjoy it though.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV ooooh! Care to give us a hint as to what it may be?
I already knew what the results would show but it's still good to see it in a concise video.
I'd be interested in seeing how much difference a new barrel/hop would make to these results especially comparing the .2 with upgrades to the stock gun results to see how much performance you gain from just spending a few quid more on bbs.
I’ll document any changes. Especially now we have a baseline to compare it too.
#ForScience
I'll be doing the same with some particular long boi guns soon as well hopefully.
Very informative, like seeing little experiments like this. I'd be interested to see how it does maintain over longer distance. Anecdotally I find my gnu holds accuracy better with .25s than .2s, tempted to try it on .28s or .3s but I already own 10 bottles of the .25s haha
If you watch some of the range tests I’ve done especially on Taiwanguns channel you’ll see that it does. Plus they handle wind better and penetrate light foliage.
As a rule of thumb, go as heavy as your hop can properly lift. On all my GBBRs I use ,36g when playing outdoors. ,32g seems to be a good allrounder for outdoor use. ,28g for mostly indoor, especially for aegs with other than a type 0 cylinder. For AEGs it is important to have enough air volume in the cylinder. When using those heavy weights make sure you use a chrono to measure the kinetic energy, that Tom would have been very interesting to know. Maybe you can provide that for further investigations. Stay safe everyone!
Totally agree. Chrono readings are all on the earlier long range test. It’s a bit pointless for this one as the range is 10m and I’m not changing the hop setting between weights. I’ll link the earlier Video in the description and add a card in the video. Thanks
Just been back over the previous video and the hop was struggling at anything over 0.25g and it was doing 227 fps with a 0.28g on full to lift them. I’ll do some hop work and retest.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV Fair enough, I think you can really improve the hopup performance by using one of the new mapleleaf (or other brands) flathop styled rubbers.
It might be a candidate actually. I normally either flat hop or Rhop. Might be an interesting comparison.
Just found this channel randomly and I'm not going to lie this is some top quality stuff man, good work!
Thanks! There’s lots of range work on the channel.
A great video, thanks for taking the time to make it. I run the heaviest BB I can in my GBBR and get great accuracy, precision and range. The only place I can't do that is a local CQB place that has a 0.25g limit as "heavier BBs have more energy / hurt more"...maybe physics is different at that site ;)
I’m intending on trying out that myth! The only thing I can think is that the higher rpm needed to lift heavy BBs causes more tissue damage on impact.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV I am not sure that there is enough rotational momentum or friction to cause this but it is an interesting idea, I would love to NOT volunteer as a test victim :)
Good demo!
Thanks, difficult to do much at the moment!
I must admit Tom, it was your last bb weight comparison test vid that got me trying to see just how far I could push a certain weight for that cost/accuracy balance, as such I have now found that .2s just dont get the range and have stepped up to .28s myself in 90% of my full auto rifs.
As usual great stuff, simple, informative and to the point 👍
Thanks Mark. It makes such a massive difference to use a heavier quality BB as long as the replica can lift it efficiently.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV I completely agree, my current 'go to' rif is a completely stock (internally) Tippmann Commando, literally zero mods or upgrades done to the air seal or power, it chucks .28s a sufficient range with enough power and accuracy to be easily competitive in a skirmish.
All that it took was trial and error, small tweaks on the hop wheel and patience 😁
Great video bud
Thanks JJ
Good stuff Tom. We run 23 and 25 mostly but also have a few aeg's that really like the heavier bb's. We also can run a higher fps than you can though.
I run .32s and .36s in my TM and Rhop AEGs at 1.1J if I can. Makes a lot of difference.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV nice. I'm rebuilding my go to M4 right now, it sheared two sector gear teeth last game day. LOL Anyway it loves 36's. Measured with 20's it ran 419 FPS at 1.7 J. Our favorite field allows 425fps with 25's. No joules yet but hoping it comes soon tbh.
Great video, enjoy the range and ammo based ones. Would you consider trying a MR Hop in it? Seems to be a few videos with them compared to other drop in components. Very little comparisons to say a flat hop or R-hop. Would be curious as to how it fairs. Anyway thanks for the videos, helps with the lockdown.
I’ve been meaning to try one for a while so this could well be a good candidate to test one. I’ll order one up. EDIT. Done!
@@AnvilAirsoftTV Great stuff. Looking forward to seeing how you find them.
Excellent!🤙🏽
Cheers
Awesome vid..best regards from Nova Scotia, Canada
Hey. Thanks for watching. Keeping my fingers crossed for you guys.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV airsoft will survive this bill.....we are organizing country wide..sound familiar...lol
Yeah very. Shame it took adversity to do it but hey that’s the way it works generally.
My cyma ak doesnt lift .32 but lifts. 28s just fine, but im determined to try .32s because of you. So i have new hop unit, and will increase power as im loosing alot through hop pressure.
Yeah. I need to flat or Rhop generally except TM NGRS hops to lift a .32 worth it into the long run. You can get 70m+ with a .32g on 1.1J when setup right.
Have you ever tried Valkyrie BBs? I use them in my TM AEG and I think they are brilliant. If you haven’t, you should give them a go.
We’ve done a head to head test on the channel. They are as good as every other premium BB that are probably made in the same factory on the market in our opinion. So use whatever suits your replica best. :)
@@AnvilAirsoftTV I must have missed that video, will have to go back and have a look! Could be. The owner of Valkyrie plays at my local sites so will ask him. As I’m fairly new to airsoft (started a year ago) I have not come across any “bad” bbs yet. I was using ASG Devil Blaster 0.28s with my AEG, switched in the summer to Valkyrie. And for my Sniper I have used BLS and Geoffs. I know that the KM and Nov bbs come out of the BLS factory, so makes sense that some of the other premium ones do too.
Say hi to Richard for me. We’ve exchanged quite a few messages.
0.3g BLS in everything.
This is the way. 😎😜👍
#ShootingTheNutsOffFliesAtTenMetres
I really like the .30g BLS precision in my GBBR.
As a rule of thumb... if you put a weight of bb in a gun, and you can still over hop them, does that mean you can go heavier?
I currently use Valkyrie. 32's in my lct ak74, it has had various upgrades but it can still carry .32's out to a decent range and with accuracy to match! But I reckon it could go heavier still
Depends on how much muzzle energy you are loosing to do so. It’s a bit of a balance.
What magazines are you using for your cyma m16a1?
I’ve got a set of MAG plastic mid caps that have been very reliable
Short but sweet 🤙, do find much of a difference between the open blasters and devil blasters ? I’ve recently discovered that devil blasters have a tighter tolerance than the open blaster
I don't personally, the .32g Opens have been pretty good for me and I switched over to use those in most of my replicas that can lift them efficiently. Different airsoft guns really do like different BBs.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV yeah I’ve always used open .30s but didn’t have a clue they were a worse tolerance, never dared go to .32 with the low uk FPS but if you’ve had success I might give them a shot
Open Blaster or Blaster .30? I didn’t get on either the standard blaster 0.30g but I like the open .28 and .32. They are a tad too soft for my GBBR though so I use Devils or BLS precision in that.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV the standard non bio blasters, found they had 1 or two flyers out of a 10 shot grouping, I would really like to try bls bbs but can’t seem to find them in stock on anywhere but Taiwan gun, and UPS is making that a hard no for now
Yeah the .30 Blasters didn’t work for me. The Open Blasters and a Devil Blasters have additional polish and QC steps.
What did you use on the stock and hand guard?
It’s the remains of a dusty spray job it had to weather it for an event. I had sniper tape down to camo it and then did a light dusting of tan and brown. When I took the tape off afterwards I ended up leaving the spray on as I liked the way it looked.
Does CYMA make a Platinum version of that rifle?
I think some retailers have different specifications gearboxes. Evike in the US does a ‘platinum’ with licensed Colt trades. It’s in their own range though it’s really a CYMA
i have that exact gun and dont know how to put it out of editing mode shouldn't've thrown away the manual
Oh no. I didn’t even get a manual that discussed the mosfet.
@@AnvilAirsoftTV oh that’s fine do you know how to turn it off
Larger sample size. Theres so much randomness its hard to tell. Shoot like 100 pellets into a target.
I've shot enough BBs out of enough airsoft guns to know this is representative, 10 shot groups are also considered statistically good enough. What I'm also trying to show is a trend rather than exact results. This Airsoft Gun has also been previously tested on the range by me at Thurlaston where we fire around 100 BBs of each weight at targets from 30m out to 60m.
someone plays warhammer
I worked at Games Workshop Head Office for 16 years
@@AnvilAirsoftTV lucky bastard