That Kay looks cool when it's being played. Looks like it survived a housefire! New phrase for me "I took a bath on it". presumably it means you were under water on it? Like lost money? Idioms man... Always something new!
@@hydorah "Took a bath on it" is a pretty ancient phrase. I believe it was originally "took a bath in red ink". In the old days of paper ledger books it was common to write profits in black ink and losses in red ink.
You’re like the Bob Ross of guitar repair...I find your videos relaxing, even when you get pissed with the work or a moron who did bad work before you got it. You and Dave are my two favorite repair luthiers...but he’s more like Joe Walsh. Thanks for the videos.
I have to say these videos are the highlight of my day when one comes out! Thanks for sharing, its very clear that a lot of effort goes into into the making of these videos, and it pays off!
Really glad, nay encouraging, to see the clamping of the strings by a professional - to keep them in sequence - it's something I do too. Seriously, I am in awe of you "attention to detail" even on a cheap guitar. Wonderful sir !
I declared that 12 string to be a wall-hanger when it first appeared on-screen, even though I usually have a soft spot in my heart for the underdogs of the guitar world. You did an amazing job bringing her back to life! Very nice!
I once waited 3 years for a '60s Greco 12 string that had collapsed at the saddle all the x-bracing popped underneath, but my luthier, like you is a patient man and when I receive that 12-string back it played like a heavenly harp patience is the key to this business and you sir definitely have it and do excellent work and I enjoy watching your videos,
I've seen a lot of your repairs, but for some reason this crack going through the body of the Gibson affected me in more of a visceral gut punch way than others (major repairs all...) Something about such an insidious crack looking like the whole top would flake off, like someone knapping obsidian... - thanks again for the expertise and calm walkthrough of these repairs
Hey now... I have a Okay 12 string I bought in 1977 sounded beautiful then, still sounds beautiful today. love it!! :) Fantastic repair! And also sounds beautiful!!
Sometimes I think your customers and my customers must travel back and forth dropping off hilariously similar guitars with hilariously similar problems for us to fix. You are a saint, sir.
I applaud you for your patience. I've taken a 'bath" on a few jobs, but in the long run with other repair jobs I've made up for it. It's great to see someone undertake a job like this and come out smelling like a rose. The only one problem I've found in doing these "bath" jobs is that word gets around, and pretty soon you have people in bringing instruments that would serve better in the fireplace, but they want you to make them playable, and are disappointed when you say you can't help them. Sorry, but I really don't do this for my health. And the ones who come in and expect to pay $25 for a complete re-fret, and then say you need the experience. I usually tell them to go to CZcams and they can see how easy it is to DIY. I never see them again, or if I do, they say they can see why I charge what I do for my work. People think repairing stringed and fretted musical instruments is just a "hobby thing", and not a serious occupation.
I have the same issue with screws when restoring melodeons. I find old printers and take them apart, saving all of the screws. They're full of useful, small, and obscure sizes.
Another Sunday morning vastly improved by your craftsmanship. I go off on a snowy day in the UK to fit a humbucker and a P90 to a Squier Mustang. You are an inspiration to the ham handed like myself...
I know it was not really worth the time, but I liked the sound of the Kay. It has a vintage vibe to it and looks like its endlessly traveled the country via railroad cars.
I share your passion for restoration, and for me it's much more of a trained hobby- as I don't own a shop. GREAT JOB on the 12! I could hear the life that you resurrected back over my phone! Quite well done!
I'm just a guitarist and know how to adjust a truss-rod, to set up my preferred action on a guitar and do little repairs, but this is high class craftsmanship! How I love these videos of you working on guitars! Thank you, for taking the time to show us and giving us all these masterclasses!!
I owned that exact same model twelve string back in 1971. I had to sell it to pay tuition at university that year and and I spent over 45 years looking for one to replace it. There don't seem to be many of them still around. I own a Gibson B45, a B25 and a few other twelves but none ever sounded as good as the Kay - or maybe I was just young and didn't have a well developed ear at the time. The B45 sounds pretty good though, but you know, it didn't really stand up to the years very well either and also needs a lot of work. Anyway I found one on eBay two years ago for about eighty bucks and it's been hanging on the shop wall since then waiting to have the neck re-glued. Since the dovetail joint and fingerboard extension are already loose maybe the bolt on option is the best way to go - I hadn't considered doing that but I think I'll try it. I've been kind of busy with other people's repairs but I'll have to put this one back in the queue. For what it's worth, the 1968 Kay catalogue shows this guitar as the model K7900 with laminated mahogany backs and sides. It listed for $100.00. They also made a K7950 with laminated sunburst curly maple back and sides - the professional model - which listed for $150.00. Thanks for the video - I always enjoy watching your work - it's a wonder that you can find the time to make them.
I also owned a Kay 12 string when I was in college. I sold it to a friend to help me finance a semester abroad in the fall of 1987. I sold it for $200. Don't remember what I paid for it though.
I must say: ES 135s are sleepers rock n roll machines. I think the (not that) thinking body's with the p-90s give these guitar some really cool overdrive tones
Mr. Ted left out the part where he had to remove (and replace) the pick guard so his custom church-pew-bridge-saddle-slotting-guide would lay flatt(ish). This level of repair, and charity, amazes me. It shows the fine character, as well as the skill and experience of Mr. Ted, who is also referred to as "Canadian Jesus". As a side note, a left-handed drill bit (yes, it is a thing) will easily remove a small, stripped out Phillips screw, without using an extractor.
One of the things that sets you apart Ted is, good or bad, you just won't do a crap job - even if you lose money. I hope he's a hell of a customer! Thanks for the vid.
Oh man, as Chet Atkins said, "some guitars just need to be disposed of." I bow to your respect as to the customer's misguided desires. Value is an invented concept within the human heart.
You've got greats skills, and combined with you're pragmatism, those guitars are just goin' to get fixed. I hope the owner of the the Kay sees this video and compensates you accordingly. That guitar has got that wonderful old time tone. Lead belly was the perfect music to play on it. Your tenacity alone made me subscribe! Thanks
Picksalot. I'm serious -- this could be the very same old Kay guitar I nearly tossed in a dumpster in 1966.... Only paid $ 60 for it. Instead, I gave it to a "frenemy" to play. We both thought Leadbelly's tunes would work well on that contraption. Where he took it, I'll never know. Bob
I had the last version of the ES-135. It had a mahogany center block; humbucking pickups; a tune-o-matic and stop tail; and it had a control cavity access on the back. I now own a 1993 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion III, which is a slightly downsized 135, but has fingerboard binding, and a "fingers" trapeze tailpiece.
See, this is why you need a patreon. People here love seeing un-economical repairs like that Kay, and as you almost always do some extra touch-ups and improvements out of your own pocket, it seems only fair that we can chip in for the privilege of watching you go above and beyond :)
Really appreciate you showing so much love for an old beater 12 string like that Kay and turning it from firewood into a playable guitar again. It might be cheap and badly made, but when you played it at the end it sounded pretty darn nice. These are the kind of guitars that so many of the great (and not so great like me) musicians in the world started out on and they have their place in history along with the great instruments of the past.
I was very pleasantly surprised at the sound of the Gibson semi. It was harmonically very rich. Jangly but deeper. You're going to have to find a way to avoid taking a bath on those Kay type jobs. It's okay if it's for your friend's wedding and the shop is slow and the guitar is kinda worth it, but... nah. Estimates with dire warnings, not quotes; straight time and materials. You risk devaluing your service and being taken advantage of. The cost risk should always be the guitar owner's, not your business's -- as long as you're up front about the very high probability of complications. But keep up the great work, man. 😎
You answered a 991 call on that kay. The insurance payments alone will be worth it dr. Congratulations. The mother and 12 string are resting comfortably.
Magician. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to go about such a weird (to me) repair. Great job as always. With friends like the one who brought in that 12string full of grenades....
I love watching you work because you always take your time and do it right, it would be easy to write off the Kay and be more sloppy and say "screw it, the factory didn't get the scale length right, I'll leave the saddle the way it is cuz it's not worth it" but you go through and do it anyways. Mad respect. I used to work on cars and would get into the same kind of situations, you want to do something for somebody's old beater that they only want to spend $400 on, so you think you're just going to do quick and easy and then you run into so many little issues that just eat up your time and add frustration.
I actually think the 12 string sounded quite nice at the end.
"The action's a little high" Oh you got a LOL out of me on that one. Mr Woodford
There are African tribes that could limbo under those strings
That Kay looks cool when it's being played. Looks like it survived a housefire! New phrase for me "I took a bath on it". presumably it means you were under water on it? Like lost money? Idioms man... Always something new!
perfect slide guitar setup (lmao)
@@TeleCustom72 Ha! That's what folks selling guitars say when the neck is so bowed you could use the guitar on an archery range.
@@hydorah "Took a bath on it" is a pretty ancient phrase. I believe it was originally "took a bath in red ink". In the old days of paper ledger books it was common to write profits in black ink and losses in red ink.
You are a brave, brave man to have taken on that 12-string. Definitely an act of charity that will buy you less Purgatory time.
It's a shame that CZcams revenue doesn't help make gnarly repairs like this more economically feasible.
That seems like the kind of work one regrets taking on. At least he could share it with us and have fun
Agreed. He turned garbage into treasure. That's definitely worth some spiritual credit in my humble opinion.
like people are saying, if it's any consolation that kay trainwreck actually sounds _really good_ recorded through youtube audio
Sure it does doesn't it😁
That twelve string has a beautiful resonant sound.
You’re like the Bob Ross of guitar repair...I find your videos relaxing, even when you get pissed with the work or a moron who did bad work before you got it. You and Dave are my two favorite repair luthiers...but he’s more like Joe Walsh. Thanks for the videos.
The pickups on that Gibson really are unique sounding. That was a lot brighter than I expected.
Brilliant job on the ES 135
Came for the 135. Stayed to watch the Kay. Great job.
“There will be a resurrection surcharge on this one......” 😉
I bet that 12 string has never sounded, that good, until 2021...
The 135 sounds great and the Kay is another "SAVE". Nice work man.
There’s good karma in giving more life to old guitars.
Aaaaaaamen. I've done it waaaaay too many times.
Absolutely
@Klemm Furz ???
So true. Ideally some kid will get a nice guitar to practice with for a few years and who knows, maybe it will live on for another decade or two.
I have to say these videos are the highlight of my day when one comes out! Thanks for sharing, its very clear that a lot of effort goes into into the making of these videos, and it pays off!
It was nice to see the Gibson fix go as planned.
A 25 minute video that's posted 2 minutes ago and has 15 likes by people who haven't watched it. That's the power of Ted Woodford. Amazing.
I always like the videos on this channel before I watched them. Because then I get so addicted to watching that I forget to like it.
@@violentsense ....me too!
Really glad, nay encouraging, to see the clamping of the strings by a professional - to keep them in sequence - it's something I do too. Seriously, I am in awe of you "attention to detail" even on a cheap guitar. Wonderful sir !
a couple of strips of velchro also works well
jeff scarff I prefer a capo in most situations
At a loss for words here; thanks for another great and inspiring video.
I declared that 12 string to be a wall-hanger when it first appeared on-screen, even though I usually have a soft spot in my heart for the underdogs of the guitar world.
You did an amazing job bringing her back to life!
Very nice!
I once waited 3 years for a '60s Greco 12 string that had collapsed at the saddle all the x-bracing popped underneath, but my luthier, like you is a patient man and when I receive that 12-string back it played like a heavenly harp patience is the key to this business and you sir definitely have it and do excellent work and I enjoy watching your videos,
I've seen a lot of your repairs, but for some reason this crack going through the body of the Gibson affected me in more of a visceral gut punch way than others (major repairs all...) Something about such an insidious crack looking like the whole top would flake off, like someone knapping obsidian... - thanks again for the expertise and calm walkthrough of these repairs
Hey now... I have a Okay 12 string I bought in 1977 sounded beautiful then, still sounds beautiful today. love it!! :)
Fantastic repair! And also sounds beautiful!!
Worth every second of work for that 12 string guitar. Sounds great
Sometimes I think your customers and my customers must travel back and forth dropping off hilariously similar guitars with hilariously similar problems for us to fix.
You are a saint, sir.
That ES-125 repair is superb!
Really enjoying your videos...Thanks from Scotland 🏴...grew up in Toronto.
I applaud you for your patience. I've taken a 'bath" on a few jobs, but in the long run with other repair jobs I've made up for it. It's great to see someone undertake a job like this and come out smelling like a rose. The only one problem I've found in doing these "bath" jobs is that word gets around, and pretty soon you have people in bringing instruments that would serve better in the fireplace, but they want you to make them playable, and are disappointed when you say you can't help them. Sorry, but I really don't do this for my health. And the ones who come in and expect to pay $25 for a complete re-fret, and then say you need the experience. I usually tell them to go to CZcams and they can see how easy it is to DIY. I never see them again, or if I do, they say they can see why I charge what I do for my work. People think repairing stringed and fretted musical instruments is just a "hobby thing", and not a serious occupation.
I hate to say, I really enjoy the work on the hacked cheap guitars.
You might of taken a bath, but we all are thankful for the awesome cleaning you show us. Thanks
You are a genius!
I enjoyed your playing. I was waiting for ‘Walk right in’🎶
I have the same issue with screws when restoring melodeons. I find old printers and take them apart, saving all of the screws. They're full of useful, small, and obscure sizes.
Saying "the action is a little high" on this guitar such as it was is like saying "there's one or two car chases" in a Fast and Furious movie ;)
Thanks for saving this old Kay...it deserves to live another day...even though it will never be crowned Prom Queen...
Came for the ASMR guitar repair, stayed for the musical interlude and outro. Your picking and strumming is always mas fina
Excellent craftmanship sir!
Another Sunday morning vastly improved by your craftsmanship. I go off on a snowy day in the UK to fit a humbucker and a P90 to a Squier Mustang. You are an inspiration to the ham handed like myself...
The Lordship of Repair...
That was some Really Mind~Numbing Solutions...
But that Poor Ol' 12 sounds Pretty Darned Good, afterall!
That was a labour of love. Great work as ever Ted
Really enjoy this length video, know it’s a lot of extra time, but thank you.
Yes! Perfect Saturday evening.
I know it was not really worth the time, but I liked the sound of the Kay. It has a vintage vibe to it and looks like its endlessly traveled the country via railroad cars.
I am always amazed how you totally access a project. All stones are lifted . Thanks for sharing
I share your passion for restoration, and for me it's much more of a trained hobby- as I don't own a shop. GREAT JOB on the 12! I could hear the life that you resurrected back over my phone! Quite well done!
Ted, you are an artist. I actually really enjoyed watching you resurrect the old Kay. Not too shabby!
A beautiful sounding 12-string great job
“There’s a bit of a bulge” T.Woodford 2021
OwO
Yes in my underpants lol
Dr Death. And Ted fought the "Battle of the Bulge" in 2021.
You have the patience of a saint! One of those jobs that could just go on and on if your experience didn’t stop you from allowing it to!
I'm just a guitarist and know how to adjust a truss-rod, to set up my preferred action on a guitar and do little repairs, but this is high class craftsmanship! How I love these videos of you working on guitars! Thank you, for taking the time to show us and giving us all these masterclasses!!
Always both informative and entertaining.
You covered a lot of ground in this episode. Thank you.
That kay sounds awesome.
My buddy had an upright bass, 3 acoustics and a parlor guitar, all Kay's.
I owned that exact same model twelve string back in 1971. I had to sell it to pay tuition at university that year and and I spent over 45 years looking for one to replace it. There don't seem to be many of them still around. I own a Gibson B45, a B25 and a few other twelves but none ever sounded as good as the Kay - or maybe I was just young and didn't have a well developed ear at the time. The B45 sounds pretty good though, but you know, it didn't really stand up to the years very well either and also needs a lot of work. Anyway I found one on eBay two years ago for about eighty bucks and it's been hanging on the shop wall since then waiting to have the neck re-glued. Since the dovetail joint and fingerboard extension are already loose maybe the bolt on option is the best way to go - I hadn't considered doing that but I think I'll try it. I've been kind of busy with other people's repairs but I'll have to put this one back in the queue. For what it's worth, the 1968 Kay catalogue shows this guitar as the model K7900 with laminated mahogany backs and sides. It listed for $100.00. They also made a K7950 with laminated sunburst curly maple back and sides - the professional model - which listed for $150.00. Thanks for the video - I always enjoy watching your work - it's a wonder that you can find the time to make them.
I also owned a Kay 12 string when I was in college. I sold it to a friend to help me finance a semester abroad in the fall of 1987. I sold it for $200. Don't remember what I paid for it though.
I must say: ES 135s are sleepers rock n roll machines. I think the (not that) thinking body's with the p-90s give these guitar some really cool overdrive tones
Mr. Ted left out the part where he had to remove (and replace) the pick guard so his custom church-pew-bridge-saddle-slotting-guide would lay flatt(ish). This level of repair, and charity, amazes me. It shows the fine character, as well as the skill and experience of Mr. Ted, who is also referred to as "Canadian Jesus". As a side note, a left-handed drill bit (yes, it is a thing) will easily remove a small, stripped out Phillips screw, without using an extractor.
One of the things that sets you apart Ted is, good or bad, you just won't do a crap job - even if you lose money. I hope he's a hell of a customer! Thanks for the vid.
Always a pleasure to watch you work! Saved that 12 from death!
I always learn something from your posts. Using the airbrush to penetrate the glue deeply was a great tip.
Hahahaha that 10mm action was hilarious!! Made my day
You appear to be a repairman of equal parts "tried & true technique" and creative input.
You made that guitar sound good, what an amazing rescue. I hope the owner appreciates your hard work and ingenuity!
I salute you on repairing the 12 string & releasing it out in the world as playable, good sounding machine. Nice 12 string playing too!
Ted , every time I watch one of your videos I get more impressed by your work , damn you made that 12 string sound awesome .
LOL. The disdain in his voice is great!
Oh man, as Chet Atkins said, "some guitars just need to be disposed of." I bow to your respect as to the customer's misguided desires. Value is an invented concept within the human heart.
So true :)
Chet Atkins must have seen Willie Nelson's guitar (Trigger) when he made that comment.
" I can't spend a lot of time on this" then does anyway. I appreciate how you have to do right. Thanks.
Wow that Gibson repair is impressive!
Loved the screw removal method. Thanks.
The sound is actually really amazing. Your train wrecks are my favorite videos.
You've got greats skills, and combined with you're pragmatism, those guitars are just goin' to get fixed. I hope the owner of the the Kay sees this video and compensates you accordingly. That guitar has got that wonderful old time tone. Lead belly was the perfect music to play on it. Your tenacity alone made me subscribe! Thanks
Picksalot. I'm serious -- this could be the very same old Kay guitar I nearly tossed in a dumpster in 1966.... Only paid $ 60 for it. Instead, I gave it to a "frenemy" to play. We both thought Leadbelly's tunes would work well on that contraption. Where he took it, I'll never know. Bob
Incredible. Great work.
Excellent ..........bringing that guitar back from the brink. Total respect for your skill......... I honestly reckon you could raise The Titanic!!
I had the last version of the ES-135. It had a mahogany center block; humbucking pickups; a tune-o-matic and stop tail; and it had a control cavity access on the back. I now own a 1993 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion III, which is a slightly downsized 135, but has fingerboard binding, and a "fingers" trapeze tailpiece.
Simply put, you are a genius my friend. Respect from Melbourne Oz.
That 12 is gorgeous well worth the effort thank you 😊
Thank you so much for your videos! Always informative. Always entertaining.
"Stairway" man! Haha. Good job as always.
See, this is why you need a patreon. People here love seeing un-economical repairs like that Kay, and as you almost always do some extra touch-ups and improvements out of your own pocket, it seems only fair that we can chip in for the privilege of watching you go above and beyond :)
That is one good sounding 12 string!! it has the 'thunder in silence' that it needs.
You are Amazing💪💪💪💪💪💪, I cannot imagine how frustrating that 12 string repair was.. Thanks
There is a special place in the afterlife for instrument repairmen.
Fascinating as always. Thanks so much.
I always enjoy listening to the guitars after you repair them.
That Kay ended up great! Great job!
That old Kay just proved why it is justified to fix an old guitar the sound is amazing
Really appreciate you showing so much love for an old beater 12 string like that Kay and turning it from firewood into a playable guitar again. It might be cheap and badly made, but when you played it at the end it sounded pretty darn nice. These are the kind of guitars that so many of the great (and not so great like me) musicians in the world started out on and they have their place in history along with the great instruments of the past.
That 12 string is playable now alright.
Classic sound.
Nice job!
I was very pleasantly surprised at the sound of the Gibson semi. It was harmonically very rich. Jangly but deeper.
You're going to have to find a way to avoid taking a bath on those Kay type jobs. It's okay if it's for your friend's wedding and the shop is slow and the guitar is kinda worth it, but... nah. Estimates with dire warnings, not quotes; straight time and materials. You risk devaluing your service and being taken advantage of. The cost risk should always be the guitar owner's, not your business's -- as long as you're up front about the very high probability of complications.
But keep up the great work, man. 😎
You answered a 991 call on that kay. The insurance payments alone will be worth it dr. Congratulations. The mother and 12 string are resting comfortably.
That lucky 12-string owner also benefits from the budding prestige of being showcased on your growing channel.
Excellent work, as usual. 👍👍
I'm usually always in favor of repairing things and keeping them going, but damn that 12 string is literal firewood. Congrats on making it functional
Nice job on the Kay. Shocked to hear that it sounds so good!
Magician. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to go about such a weird (to me) repair. Great job as always. With friends like the one who brought in that 12string full of grenades....
It's a great pleasure to watch your videos, sir! Thanks you!
Ahh...the weekly fix is here! Thanks Ted.
A very educational video. That 12 string doesn't sound bad at all now. Good work!
WOW, that's one hell of a repair, nice job!
Top notch videos, your documentaries are the best!
I love watching you work because you always take your time and do it right, it would be easy to write off the Kay and be more sloppy and say "screw it, the factory didn't get the scale length right, I'll leave the saddle the way it is cuz it's not worth it" but you go through and do it anyways. Mad respect.
I used to work on cars and would get into the same kind of situations, you want to do something for somebody's old beater that they only want to spend $400 on, so you think you're just going to do quick and easy and then you run into so many little issues that just eat up your time and add frustration.
I'm no Hercule Poirot, but a bandmate definitely broke that guitar when he was out the room.
There once was an idiot bassist ...