Before I was saved, I was just living my life and wondering why I kept hitting all these roadblocks, I was just sleepwalking through life. At some point, I realized that God was trying to get my attention, and once I started being intentional about getting in the Word, and made some life changes, eventually I “woke up” out of the matrix. I believe once you “wake up”, this is when you’re truly saved, but it’s also unfortunate to see so many people around me (Christians included) who are still asleep. Why God chooses to wake some of us up, and lets some people stay sleep, I have no idea. But I’m thankful to have been chosen, thankful to be awake, and thankful to be free of the matrix!
It isn't a mystery. The answer is higher dimensions. There's spatial dimensions outside of the 4d universe dimensional universe we live in. They are curled up and can't be accessed directly. That realm of existence is much greater than the physical universe we are in.
Morning brother Corey. I believe a choice has to be made. One time we are a slave of sin, after conversion we are slave of righteousness. Bible ask us to CHOSE LIFE!
The vast overwhelming majority of people just go by whatever it was their parents raised them in. People are quite easily pushed into various worldly ways. I live in an ex-Christian nation where people see Biblical faith as a mental disorder or a sign that someone might be a terrible person. Being surrounded by an entire culture of people who insist that you must be a crazy person will make you sometimes feel like you must be a crazy person.
i brought this up the last time this topic was discussed: the issue with the line of reasoning here is that God is the One who regenerates the heart. We follow that- none of us causes ourselves to be saved. However, if God does NOT regenerate a heart it cannot be saved! Therefore whether we want to say that God is not actively choosing to predestinate a person to hell, that is EXACTLY what is happening. God does not change a person’s heart so he CANNOT believe in a saving way, therefore it is LITERALLY God predestining them not to believe!
One hundred percent wrong, everyone who goes to hell because of their sin, God did not make anyone sin. He chose to have mercy on some people, those he did have mercy are still are guilty for the sin they committed.
@@kgar5Stringif we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God hath raised Him from the dead you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Proverbs 20: 9 Who can say, "I have cleansed my heart, I am pure from my sin?" 🙏✝️♥️ Hope you are well Brother Corey, I'm praying for you and your loved ones!
Look at the family unit established by God and its symbolic significance. Our freedom mirrors the autonomy we have as children under our parents' guidance. When a parent intervenes in our decisions, what is said? “As long as you are under my roof, you’re under my rules.” Similarly, as children of God, we are under His roof, His guidance, and His will always takes priority over our own. Why is it that we're totally fine with the government pulling our strings, but the thought of our perfect almighty God intervening in our lives is just un fathomable… smh 🤦🏻♂️
Corey could you try to EQ your videos to be louder? They’re really quiet when compared to standard audio conventions. Love these streams; it’s just hard to hear at times even on max volume
This is very deep and I believe it is for people like myself who are struggling to call calvanists brothers/sisters in Christ. The reality is every denomination has people who profess to be christian but reality is not all a true christian who has put his salvation all on and only on Jesus...nothing else... certainly not of themselves
@@GoodGospel_ hi. I am struggling because the god of Tulip is not the God of the bible. Even JWs Mormons claim to believe in the true God of the bible but malign and twist the very nature of the true God Almighty. At the end it doesn't matter what I think but I do fear for the final outcome of calvanists as I do for JWs Mormons and even Muslims who all claim to hold to God Almighty but have created human theology which distorts the true God.
The hatred for Calvinism blinds people from the truth of scripture. I don’t consider myself a Calvinist because I’m still working their doctrine out in my head. I am a member of a Calvinist church because I love expository preaching and I can’t see any holes in the preaching. The Bible says what it says, I can’t help that it goes against free grace, free will doctrine. Until listening to Corey here, Calvinism was the only view of scripture that harmonized the entire word of God. Every other view was man centered theology that only partially adhered to scripture. As much as we want to have the control (free will) , scripture says otherwise. I don’t want to be a Calvinist because of the hatred it receives but it’s closer to the truth than Arminianism. Arminianism leads to some unbiblical soteriological ideas like loss of salvation or salvation not being a gift of God. It diminishes the power of the Holy Spirit. It allows for charismatics to think they can be apostles. At least with Calvinism you know you can’t do anything without Christ.
This topic has always been interesting to me. Corey when you said "that he has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation," the very next verse says "that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us." I will watch the rest of your video to see if you cover this, however it seems like God has determined that we should seek Him. That's an action of the will. If perhaps, there's a choice. We may or we might not. We should and believers do. This leads me to conclude that God's will is for our salvation and He puts us where we are so that we will choose Him. He is not far from each one of us so the only way I can see someone being put in the place where they would seek Him and not doing so is free will, a gift of God used wrongly. Our will should align with God's for our salvation. If I'm wrong that's ok I still have put my trust in Jesus whether I have free will or not. Brother Corey if I get the chance to speak with you on this I'd like to. If you are busy that's ok too.
Parable or lesson of the prodigal son was at home. Everything was already set for home but he had to be in the right place called predestination. That is our plan for our salvation. It is already set up but we have to be in the right place basically stated. It is true hell was not made for man.
Corey I would love for you to reach out to Frank to see if he will come on to talk this topic out. That would be a great talk. Frank Turek is very good at explaining his view
Your will is always under the influence of something.Your either a slave to sin (in Adam spiritually dead) or slave to righteousness ( in Jesus being spiritually alive ) .
I worry that a lot of people believe that God is beholden to our free will. Paul was on his way to destroy some believers, when Christ knocked him off his horse and in God’s mercy gave him a new heart. I do not remember Christ asking Paul if he’d like to suffer for the proclamation of the gospel. Christ told him what he had been called for. Christ elected him. Some people call that a violation of Paul’s free will, Paul called it MERCY. “I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service, even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief;” 1 Timothy 1:12-13 NASB1995
Paul was a Pharisee. Paul knew the Scriptures. When Jesus appeared to him, he understood that it was God appearing to him. How is that a violation of his free will? God choosing to "prove" Himself to someone in a manner in which there can be no doubt is not a deterministic violation of Paul's free will, it's persuasion with a guaranteed success rate because of His foreknowledge. Even though the outcome might still be the same, it's a huge difference.
@@ReclaimerX22 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son WILLS to reveal Him.” Matthew 11:27 NASB1995 👆This is SALVATION. God in His mercy elects someone and chooses to reveal Christ to them. Paul believed in Christ because he was a Pharisee?? He literally says he was a blasphemer and a violet aggressor. He did not believe because he was a Pharisee, he believed because God showed him mercy. Finally this is what Paul thought of his pharisaism…👇 “More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death;” Philippians 3:8-10 NASB1995
@@childofgrace1234 Are you purposely misrepresenting my point, or did you just make a mistake? My point was that Paul was a Pharisee - he was educated in and knew the Scriptures. Which means that, just like any other Pharisee, he was equipped to recognize Jesus when he saw Him. Some didn't, obviously, because they were blinded by their own status, traditions, self-righteousness, etc. Others did recognize Jesus, like Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea. If Paul had seen Jesus during his earthly ministry, he likely would've recognized Him for who He is then, but he didn't. Jesus, in His sovereign timing, revealed Himself to Paul later. This is merely persuasion, not an example of God overriding someone's free will.
Very informative video. I understand calvinism much better now. No matter how old it is we all know it as calvinism. The most important thing is that we are all saved. Most of people anyway, if not all, who are watching this are most likely saved people. Whether they believe God chose them by his grace and gifted them salvation because it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Or whether they believe God chose them by his grace and gifted them salvation because it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that he chose to believe. It doesn't matter if you're a calvinist, baptist, methodist, presbyterian, dispensationalist or whatever. If you believe, you're saved. This little issue gets people heated and sows discord among believers. Do you believe or does God make you believe? Doesn't matter. Once you believe you're blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places and are sealed with that holy spirit of promise. Amen. God bless brother.
FREE WILL, IS A GIFT GIVEN TO MANKIND AS WELL AS ANGELS, WHAT WE DO WITH THIS GIFT. WILL BE UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL HERE ON EARTH. MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THEY HAVE FREE WILL THAT SPRIT THAT CAME OUT OF HEAVEN, AND MOST PEOPLE CHOSE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS POWER, FOR MANY REASONS THEIR CULTURES BEING ONE OF REASONS WHY THEY DON'T PRACTICE THEIR FREE WILL GIVEN TOO THEM BY THE GREAT ONE YAHWEH THE HEAVENLY FATHER.
@@kgar5String THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF FREE WILL, LEARNING BETWEEN WHAT IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD AND WHAT IS GOOD, AND MAKING THE CHOSE, MIND YOU OUR FREE WILL IS BEING TESTED EACH MOMENT OF OUR EXISTENCE, EVERYDAY FROM DUST UNTIL SUNRISE. AND WE BEING HUMAN BEING ARE WEAK, OUR CARDINAL MINDS WILL ALWAYS STAND IN THE WAY. TRYING IT'S BEST TOO STAND IN THE OF OUS NOT PRACTICING OUR, FREE WILL, YOU CAN THANK ALL THAT IS EVIL ON THIS EARTH FOR THAT, AND FREE WILL IF ONE DOES NOT KNOW THEY HAVE IT ONE WILL NEVER PRACTICE IT.
“O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!” Romans 11:33 Can a person explain the working of GOD fully? If he says we are chosen then that’s what we are, if he says to rest in him then that’s what we are to do, my answer to these 2 are yes both are true, there are a lot of scriptures that teach both sides, so how do we explain both?
“There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the LORD your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you. Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: and a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.” Deuteronomy 11:25-28 KJV
Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." (Mark 9:24, NASB) If we recognize the unbelief of our heart we can ask the Lord to correct this condition. 6 But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, "GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE." 7 Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:6-10, NASB) God is ultimately responsible for showing mercy for our condition.
There are no scripture that says something you do causes your heart to be circumcised, only God causes us to be born again and there was never a condition attached.
It was the choice David chose to ask GOD create in me a clean heart. You order a fat burger from MCDONALD'S restaurants based on what you say. That is your free will. A McDonald's fat burger is exactly what you will receive. GOD is never surprised at our choices neither is your GPS confused to get us back on the right track. LORD JESUS help us to choose rightly.
We chose what to put on. We choose at a restaurant what yo eat. Most important of all we choose to believe what the Bible says. You believe what that chemistry book says and your electronic devices a lot of times not understanding how it works except on a very superficial level. Give the Bible the same repsect and always believe.
If God forced us to love Him, then we wouldn't be able to say we have free will. A teaching/belief of Heiser's that I have trouble with is his take on hell not being eternal ..his reasoning is that death is separation from God and Jesus defeated death at Calvary.... He defeated death, as in physical death, so there could be eternal life for those who believe, He didn't defeat spiritual death.
The next step I take is dependent upon many variables. Is there a solid surface for me to step on? Are my muscles strong enough to carry my own weight? Is the endolymph fluid in my ear stable enough to hold my balance? Are my eyes good enough to see where I'm going? Every breath we breathe and every step we take is dependent upon an outside influence which God has had His hand in. How much more the spiritual things we cannot see?
I go by the understanding that God is eternal who lives outside of space and time, who created space and time. We know in the scriptures that God is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. He foreknew before we were even created. So by this understanding it is my belief that because God already knows the outcome, He also knows who will receive His word, and who will refuse His word. We also know that God is never changing, does not lie, and is good since sin cannot exist in His realm. With that understanding it is my belief that God does not make us believe or disbelieve. However, He can make His presence known (Saul who becomes Paul as one example of many) and by this new understanding will open the heart and mind of that individual who will then believe. God can move in ways that He knows will make us a true believer in Him. That does not mean he forced that person to believe. I look at it more like He lifted the curtain for a moment for that individual to see or know the truth. If God decided to give us the same experience as He gave the Apostle John, we would pierce our physical realm and see with our spiritual eyes all that God wanted to reveal and experience. It would most likely transform our thoughts and minds in ways we cannot understand right now unless we experienced it directly as the Apostle John did. We would most likely become true believers. With all this as my current understanding and belief, I am so eternally grateful that my heart and mind were in a ready state to hear His word and truly believe without a shadow of a doubt that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. That only through Him can we come to the Father. Only through Jesus our sins are paid by Him through our belief in Him. My heart goes out to all who are not open or willing to hear His word and invite Him into their hearts so that the Holy Spirit may testify to their spirit and the truth will set them free. I love you all and desire none of you to perish in disbelief. Nothing is more important in life than to come to know the truth and believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To have eternal life in His presence instead of eternal life forever separated from His presence. We may stumble along the way, but always be diligent in coming to our Lord in repentance and prayer. That the fruits of our salvation is made known by our walk in the light of Christ and the salt of the Earth.
“There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:6-14 KJV
Amen and Amen "But as many as received Him' not as many as were elect/chosen/predestined. We have to hear the Gospel of the good news, believe and repent
That you were born was not your will. Whether you will be born again will not be by your will. When Jesus said, "Ye must be born again, or you cannot see the kingdom of God", He was explaining the resurrection. We had to be born to come into this physical world. We will have to be "born again" in the resurrection to come into the kingdom of God. John 3:3-6 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water [physical birth, born] and of the Spirit [resurrected, born again], he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. We are still flesh (dust); we are not yet spirit. John 3:7-9 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? We are not yet like the wind. 1 Corinthians 15:53-54 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. Ezekiel 37:11-14 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
Brother Corey, We know that God could have just made humans to do whatever he wants them to do, and be however he wants them to be. So if that is all God wanted, then all the gory pain and sufferings of humanity would be so vain and unnecessary. And would be an indictment against the Biblical character of God. The Scriptures you read in 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is....... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." This verse of Scripture alone totally destroys the notion, that God totally chooses who will be Saved without any participation on the part of the one receiving Salvation. This verse of Scripture is the truth, and being the truth means that if a person being Saved has no part in accepting God's Salvation, but are totally and completely Saved by God's sovereign will, then according to this one verse, God would Save EVERYONE. NO ONE WOULD BE LOST, Because that is God's will. We know that we are ALL born spiritually dead towards God, with no ability whatsoever to reach up to God. Death cannot reach up to life, life must reach down to death. So that is what the Holy Spirit does in the world. He touches every heart, giving each person the opportunity to either run to the light or run deeper into the darkness. So, God is the initiator, but he does this for everyone. John 1:9 KJV That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. John 16:8-9 KJV And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [9] Of sin, because they believe not on me; Christ, in the person of the Holy Spirit enlightens the heart of everyone, but not everyone responds in their heart to seek God, but many choose to reject Him. The following Scriptures clearly says the predestination and election of God is based upon the foreknowledge of God. Romans 8:29 KJV For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 1 Peter 1:2 KJV Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Any understanding of other Scriptures on this subject, must be rightly with the truth of these Scriptures. No. It is a straw man argument to say those who are Saved, and believe that there was a choosing by their own heart involved in their Salvation, means they think they have something to boast about. That is not what any of us have EVER said, believe or express. Except God touches us first, we would all still be dead in our trespasses and sins. That is your Strawman, beat him, burn him or drown him, who cares, its your Straw Man, not ours. God Bless
Why did Jesus speak parables, he said it was not for them to know, If he spoke plainly they would repent, this scripture alone say it is not all men. Jesus also said it was hidden from the wise and the prudent, you can't repent of the gospel is hidden from you. Stop calling God's scripture a straw-man he will hold you accounting, he inspired the scripture.
@@kgar5Stringso how do a person know they are saved….. better yet are saying that God is deliberate hiding the gospel so certain people won’t get saved?
if we freely choose to go to hell why wouldnt God just cause them to believe when his will is for everyone to be saved? this contradicts the love of God. God wills all to believe so choice is on both sides. Believers were predestined(those that believe) not your ability to believe.
1)There is a giant billboard that beckons people to receive a product. 2) There is a salesman that is influencing you personally to receive the same product. I would prefer the latter (2) example. I find that compatible with the scriptures.
Jesus Himself said Many (the world) are called, but Few are chosen (Believers). And also God has known those who will be conformed to the Son of His love.
Nowhere in the scripture does it say or allude to the fact that Love demands free will, your will is your mind/heart, if you mind is that free, chose to never sin again? God gives a new heart, it is called being born again and Jesus was referring to Ezekiel 36:25-27 when talking to Nicodemus about being born again, in those verses God is the one who puts his spirit in us and causes us to walk in his way, he is the that takes out our heart of stone (will) and puts in heart of flesh (his spirit).
There is no such thing as "free will". None of us had a choice in the family, nation, ethnicity, city or state that we are born into. Do we think John the Baptist had a "free will" to not be who God made him to be? Think about it in light of the scriptures. Read Romans chapters 9-11.
Paul introduces Greek Philosophy and its strange and contrary. Now I just read Shem Tob's Matthew and Revelation. Every Christian teacher ignores the final.command in Revelation 18:4. Most falsely claim that it's a spiritual separation but what's described of Mystery Babylon is a real place, a great city that rules over men. Ministers ignore this because they are hyperfocused on building congregations of followers. What does this command mean to you brother Corey?
Yes but once you get to The Prophets , you will understand why God did what he did. Remember. This is a spiritual battle so yes, it’s humans killing humans. But also A spiritual war going on , especially in the Old testament
@@kgar5String The new testament one was harder for me ...God allowed Herod to send his soilders into the city with their knife's and swords break into homes and kill all first born sons of any family's because jesus was born? ...no thanks thats just horrific ....I. not judging anyone I'm reading it as it says and for me it's not the kind of religion that I'm interested in following .
You don’t get to pick a religion, either God is real or he is not, if he is real and this true, you would be in trouble because he did not meet your standard of what is good and what is evil, he is the one who determines what is good and what is evil not us.
😮 when Adam and Eve sinned they lost all their free will. In Hebrew it said that God will be perpetuation for our sins. So when God bought us back from singing we belong to him say it in the scriptures where no more on because we have been bought with a price
I think free will is free, yet God being sovreign and omnipotent has the power to influence, impact or even bend the will of man and subject it to HIS divine will. By doing that HE still continues to remain righteous and just as all the recipients whom HE deals with were natural born sinners. Please correct me if I'm off on this one. Godbless you Corey.
Ezekiel 33:6-7, Acts 17:30-31. Why would there be judgement if the judge has already chosen who will be guilty and who is innocent? Salvation is an available to all but some men love evil and didn’t accept the light.. anyone that says salvation is not available to all is a lair and makes mockery of Christ blood sacrifice. We are all deserve wrath but god loves us all that he allows us to choose him. That’s why the bride and groom analogy is used.
He doesn’t control who will sin but he does determine who he will forgive, he does not owe anyone forgiveness, it’s whoever he wants to forgive. He does not send anyone to hell, their sin does.
@@kgar5String no based on your logic. God send people to hell because he controls who he forgives. He made the choice not to take some people on the airplane even though he could have.
@@quincysthillaire It is not my logic, you only go to hell because of your sin, you are the one the sinned not God. If a black robs a bank, and a white robs a bank, the police arrest both of them, gives the black man 20 years and the white man probation, both the black and the white man knew if they were caught the punishment would be 20 years, you are not treated wrong you get what you deserve, the white man did not. It sounds as though you don't like who God is. If what he says in his word is true and you think it is evil you are judging God on your standard of what good and evil is which is rejecting God. “Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?” (Romans 9:21-23). The vessels of wrath are contrasted with the vessels of mercy; one set is slated for destruction, and the other for glory.
That is dumb, you want to blame God so go ahead he will judge you for it. His word says he can make vessels of honor and dishonor who are you to question. When you question God’s righteousness you are rejecting him.
@@kgar5String Paul was saying god has every right to make vessels for honor and for dishonor. Please psalms 78 and explain you logic in light of god commanding us to teach his word to our children. Also explain 1 Timothy 2:4?
God can do whatever he wants to, however he wants to. As long as it doesn't violate his personal holy character. So the question is this, if as God, I want to make human creatures that will serve me because that is how I made them, then why would I put them through the current human experience, except if I didn't make the human creatures to serve me just because I made them that way, but made them with a freewill to either accept me as their Creator or reject me as their Creator. Then the current human experience is a valid, and perhaps the only way to allow the human freewill experience to play out. And the truth is this, Love Demands A Freewill. If a person is stripped of their freewill, they will also be stripped of their ability to love anyone, even God. God Bless
God doesn’t need you to be perfect and circumcise your heart for him to choose you Cory. This is where you are missing the mark. God didn’t circumcise the disciples hearts before Jesus chose them. He chose them because he saw something in their heart that will let them truly believe. No one is perfect and God don’t need us to be perfect for him to choose to work in us. He needs us to have the right heart before we were even saved. Before he circumcises our heart. Why are we missing this? He tells us how he chooses people. Why did he choose Abel offering over Cains? This was not commanded not a law. It came from something in Abel that Cain didn’t have. This is everywhere.
@@Psalm13924 “Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.” John 1:47-48 KJV “Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.” John 2:23-25 KJV “And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.” Luke 16:15 NKJV “But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”” I Samuel 16:7 NKJV How many places do you need me to show you? I even looked at the psalm in your name and found your answer. How is it you can’t see it? “Search me, O God, and know my heart; Try me, and know my anxieties; And see if there is any wicked way in me, And lead me in the way everlasting.” Psalms 139:23-24 NKJV It’s literally everywhere you look in the Bible. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Psalm13924 "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee." John 1:47-48 KJV "Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man." John 2:23-25 KJV "And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God." Luke 16:15 NKJV "But the Lord said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." " I Samuel 16:7 NKJV How many places do you need me to show you? I even looked at the psalm in your name and found your answer. How is it you can't see it? "Search me, O God, and know my heart; Try me, and know my anxieties; And see if there is any wicked way in me, And lead me in the way everlasting." Psalms 139:23-24 NKJV It's literally everywhere you look in the Bible.
@@bullybroadcast3474read most comments yours makes the most sense as the condition of the heart is the key ,and consciousness.yahweh operates In absolute perfection.
It seems to be a never ending Christian argument but one thing I’m 100% certain of is I’ve never met a pagan that wishes they were of Christ’s elect or chosen but I’ve only ever met Christians that hate election and don’t believe God chooses some and not others and yet they will inherit eternal life… just meditate on that and let it sink in.
Ephesians 1:5 = predestined to justification ✅️ Ephesians 1:5 does not = predestined to glorification Predestined us to adoption AS sons. Huiothesia. It's not the same as Romans 8:23. Ephesians 1:5 = Romans 8:16 = Galatians 4:5. All regarding justification/sonship.
I’m not sure why you made a distinction from Gods definition of Free Will offering vs Man’s definition for Free Will. Why would we change the meaning if it’s Gods definition not ours. Also I don’t see a difference from a Free Will offering vs what we need to do for God to work in us and step in with our Free Will. Why are you making it mean 2 different things? Can we choose to offer our soul to the world and not God? If God tells us over and over do not worship any other gods then we obviously have free will (Gods definition not man’s) to choose. What is Love according to God? What is different in our inner man that makes God choose one and not the other? What do we have to offer as a free will offering? Is it not our soul? Does God not tell us this is our choice? Did Jesus not offer his life for ours by choosing to do Gods will over his own will? “saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.”” Luke 22:42 NKJV Is Jesus not our example? Is this not what we are supposed to do? “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.” Romans 12:1 NKJV “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” Galatians 2:20 NKJV So please explain to me how it’s different from a free will offering. What is it that we all have in common? We are all born with the same ability to choose to sacrifice for another. That is called Love. It’s called having a pure heart even if it’s for a moment or moments. God doesn’t say we need to be perfect because it’s impossible. But there’s something God sees in us that he judges who is his people and who is not. “But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”” I Samuel 16:7 NKJV There’s way too many examples in the Bible to ignore. God still doesn’t give everyone new heart. You are saying we have to circumcise our hearts for him to work in our life but I don’t agree. It doesn’t say that in the Bible. He is giving a new heart because if he don’t we will not be perfect for him and Holy. No one is Holy inwardly but that doesn’t mean he chose people based on nothing of our own. He chooses to make our spirit perfect so we can please him. Then one day he will also make our Body perfect as well.
@@kgar5String It’s important to look at why Abel’s offering was accepted and not Cains. Then what does the Bible tell us on why God does not accept our offerings? Paul touches on this later when he tells us in Corinthians how we are to give offerings to God and how not to. Does God force us or does he want it to be genuine? I will leave scripture but if you can’t see it then I suggest you pray for the Holy Spirt to show you Truth. “‘Take from among you an offering to the Lord. Whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as an offering to the Lord: gold, silver, and bronze;” Exodus 35:5 NKJV “The children of Israel brought a freewill offering to the Lord, all the men and women whose hearts were willing to bring material for all kinds of work which the Lord, by the hand of Moses, had commanded to be done.” Exodus 35:29 NKJV “But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.” II Corinthians 9:6-8 NKJV “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.” Romans 12:1-2 NKJV “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” Galatians 2:20 NKJV Not everyone has a willing heart to sacrifice for their brother or neighbor. The Bible says none will choose God unless he chooses us but it never says we can’t have a giving heart to people. Jesus says even an evil person gives gifts to thier children. We were made in Gods Image so he gave us all the qualities and what we need to be genuine. This is explained in Romans 2. “for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)” Romans 2:14-15 NKJV No man will be without excuse. Saying some are chosen and others are not no matter what is contradictory to the Bible and there’s no way around that at all. So I suggest not reading scripture to fit your understanding and changing it. But read scripture with love and try to understand God and what he’s telling us throughout the whole Bible.
What is more likely: Man’s free will can bind Gods free will. Or Gods free will binds man’s free will. Both “sides” can have pride. Calvinists can be prideful about their theology. But anti Calvinists can be prideful that they “chose” God. Which pride is worse?? Ah that is why I lean reformed (but not fully). “Election” generates 2 basic responses: Pride - “that’s not fair!” Humility - “God only you can do this” Anti Calvinists: “that’s not fair God!” Whoo…. Good luck with that attitude. You’re probably mad all the time, why? Because God is sovereign! Just surrender to that fact friends.
Corey, you have talked about and debated about the fact once someone is saved, they cannot lose their salvation. How can you tell Gregory that you have always said that a person can choose Christ and not be regenerated, but yet you won’t keep believing unless you are regenerated. This is inconsistent. Corey you are so close to the truth. Give God all the glory and sovereignty he is due. No one can come to the father unless they are called and regenerated. Also, there is only one soil that the seed is planted and rooted. When did God decide for each person… before the foundations of the world. Praying for you brother.
, based on your responses I wouldn’t think you would agree with me. I hope you someday will see it in scripture as I do… but it’s up to God, not me. :) and he is good and faithful and I trust him.
@@JC-sr3zt “Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.” John 14:22-31 KJV “We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.” 1 John 4:6 KJV “And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, that I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; and then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: that your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.” Deuteronomy 11:13-21 KJV
Thanks Corey but I think a few clear minded sessions with a person like Leighton Flowers would benefit you. I know this video is not meant to address calvanism but lets be honest when speaking about thus topic the Tulip aroma will inevitably hit the air. I am not as articulate as you and am not ashamed to admit my ignorance of scriptures. God bless
This is not the only dilemma we face when considering God’s plan in salvation. We would all agree that God knows everything that has happened, is happening and will happen. The dilemma with freewill is …. God knew before the foundation of the world those that would choose him, yet he made them anyway. So we could accuse God of being unfair for creating those he knew would not choose him.
No, you can't accuse Him. That's your little human brain speaking, not the Holy Spirit. Revelation 20:10, beast and false prophet were doomed from the womb. That's true for all the unelect. God is always righteous.
@@antanitapickett3217 and the Gentiles are also Israel. You have to read the Apocrypha, especially the seven chapters of Esther that were removed as well as 2 Esdras. Daniel also has two additional books that were removed that show us clearly he revealed the false prophets and slay the dragon. Revelation 20:12 and Daniel 12 talk about the books being opened and Revelation was never a sealed books except what the voice of the two thunders said.
Romans 9:22-23 stumps people just like 1 Tim 2:11-14. They always pretend verse 15 does not exist because they would have to explain if Apostle Paul is suggesting another way to Salvation. The Bible answers Bible questions if we study with a sober mind we get what the Apostle was talking about. Never forget the warning from Apostle Peter. There's nothing wrong in saying I don't know because we all know in part, that includes ALL
@@kgar5String Absolutely but some have perverted the word of God or misrepresented it unintentionally. The Apostle Peter warned about how difficult the writings of Paul were even during their time
@@kgar5String Jeremiah 29:13 "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart", Matthew 6:33 "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well", James 4:8 "Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded", Hebrews 11:6 "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him" (see also 1 Chronicles 16:11; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Acts 17:27). (David is on who sought after God, as well as Abraham and Moses). While men may not naturally seek God due to their inherent sinful nature, the opportunity to seek and find God is made possible through God's grace and invitation (to all men) and a person can set one's mind and heart after God, through prayer, reading Scripture, worship and fellowship with God and other believers. What do you think about this?
You are either a slave to Christ or a slave to sin as a believer in Christ. Natural man has not been purchased by Christ hence, they are a slave to sin only. Natural man will only exercise his sinful nature of me, myself,and I. Slaves are not free by definition. What gives the Christian the ability to choose right or wrong is truly knowing the truth of God’s Word which offers up a choice of right or wrong in the path of obedience vs disobedience.
Does man have free will? No. The carnal man has a will. And this will that man possesses is not free but enslaved. The enslaved man makes choices according to his fallen nature, due to the fall. And because man is dead in trespasses and sins, he has lost the moral ability to choose what is good. He chooses evil of necessity due to a corruption of nature, and cannot do otherwise, so his will is in bondage to sin. Jesus said "he who sins is a SLAVE to sin.. but if the Son sets you free you will be free indeed." Here the bible defines freedom relative to our relationship to sin. Last time I checked, a slave is not free, which is why only the grace of God can set us free from bondage. Jesus declared "the Spirit quickens, the flesh counts for nothing... that is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me grants it." - John 6;63, 65
@@kgar5String well, according to calvinism God had chosen that people are sinners. I haven't chosen to sin I am born a sinner so I had no choice. I had no choice because my natural behavior is to sin, which God predestined for me. Do you expect me as a 5 year old to have the knowledge that I am damned to hell if I lie because I am scared of someone? Christians say - And so say I - That we are born sinners. I didn't choose to be born a sinner. I'd rather be born a godly and perfectly holy man. But I am not. I could NOT choose to be one. Nobody comes to the father but through Christ, right? So either someone burns eternally for something he has done but had no other choice or even worse from the calvinist standpoint: You burn in hell for all eternity for not believing something of which God willingly prevented you from so you burn in hell and not get saved because he wanted so. Awesome
@@aletheia8054 “‘If his offering is a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish; he shall offer it of his own free will at the door of the tabernacle of meeting before the Lord.” Leviticus 1:3 NKJV Do you know what the purpose of a free will offering is and means? Why was Abel’s offering accepted and not cains? It’s a genuine free will offering. Without compulsion. So maybe God is lying and saying he makes you give a free will offering. That would sound better I guess to prove the Calvinist right. Maybe we should change what God says or the meanings of words to make what we say sound good. 🤦🏻♂️ Choose life or death. I mean how much do we need to see to understand what free will is. Even Jesus showed us what his will was vs God the Fathers will. “saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.”” Luke 22:42 NKJV Is Jesus not our example? He clearly showed us here how his will wanted a different way but his choice to do the Fathers will is what he wanted to do. He’s showing us no matter what we have to go through we must want to do Gods will over our own free will. Not sure how many places in the Bible it needs to say it for people to admit it.
? Seeing God is the beginning of everything man did He made some for heaven and some for hell are everyone have the same choice please answer this tks blessings
@@perrycummings9050 “The preparations of the heart belong to man, But the answer of the tongue is from the Lord. All the ways of a man are pure in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the spirits. Commit your works to the Lord, And your thoughts will be established. The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom. Everyone proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord; Though they join forces, none will go unpunished. In mercy and truth Atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the Lord one departs from evil. When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him. Better is a little with righteousness, Than vast revenues without justice. A man’s heart plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps.” Proverbs 16:1-9 NKJV Don’t let these people pull one verse and try to interpret it to fit their mind. Read the Bible knowing what it says about God.
Corey. Jeremiah said I know the plan that I have for you.. any other part of that scripture said that you may come to an expected in. I want to set to you quit trying to explain spiritual things by nature means. This is not the English class
Free will is an invention, a straw man for Calvinists. It's no way in the bible so please don't force it on anyone because it would distort the discussion in one direction. Let's stick to scripture which is explicit that some are elected for God's purpose not salvation. Abraham, Issac, Jacob and The Nation of Israel elected to bring about the incarnation of the Jesus Christ
Stop reading those perverted and molested translation of bibles, and stick with a kjv Bible. Freewill is all through the Bible. God choose to save according to His word, according to the sincere profession of your faith. Salvation is free, but there are conditions to meet, to get it.
God calls us and we make the choice to either follow him or not. God gave his only begotten son "(whosoever shall believe in him)" will not perish but have everlasting life. That's a choice
The Father already knew, foretelling the future, the decisions each person was gonna make based off the decisions their parents would make. Meaning He knew what parents would obey him, and the ones who would not. Remember this for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Before I was saved, I was just living my life and wondering why I kept hitting all these roadblocks, I was just sleepwalking through life. At some point, I realized that God was trying to get my attention, and once I started being intentional about getting in the Word, and made some life changes, eventually I “woke up” out of the matrix. I believe once you “wake up”, this is when you’re truly saved, but it’s also unfortunate to see so many people around me (Christians included) who are still asleep. Why God chooses to wake some of us up, and lets some people stay sleep, I have no idea. But I’m thankful to have been chosen, thankful to be awake, and thankful to be free of the matrix!
Don't try to crack your head over the reconciliation of God's sovereign will vs our free will. It will always remain a mystery.
It isn't a mystery. The answer is higher dimensions. There's spatial dimensions outside of the 4d universe dimensional universe we live in. They are curled up and can't be accessed directly. That realm of existence is much greater than the physical universe we are in.
It's fun to discuss it but in the end it's too weighty for our minds to totally comprehend.
Not a mystery. The Bible literally explains we must make a choice to believe
@christianforreal Yes...true...but the Bible also says...Jesus said to His disciples....you didn't choose me...I chose YOU. John 15:16.
It is a mistery
“No man can come to me Unless…”
keep reading …… John 12:32
How do I know if God is calling me to come to Jesus?
Yes He is calling you because, “now he commands all men every where to repent.” What is your conscience saying to you?
“Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.”
1 Corinthians 15:33 KJV
Morning brother Corey. I believe a choice has to be made. One time we are a slave of sin, after conversion we are slave of righteousness. Bible ask us to CHOSE LIFE!
How do we choose? Who gives us the power to choose?
@@delandomcwilliams5737God created us with free will choice.
@@delandomcwilliams5737 God asks us to choose.
@@christianforreal Show me scripture. He chooses us. We don't chose Him.
@@robinpatrick9787 Incorrect. He chooses us.
God DETERMINES the Beginning from End
Determines!!!
The vast overwhelming majority of people just go by whatever it was their parents raised them in.
People are quite easily pushed into various worldly ways. I live in an ex-Christian nation where people see Biblical faith as a mental disorder or a sign that someone might be a terrible person. Being surrounded by an entire culture of people who insist that you must be a crazy person will make you sometimes feel like you must be a crazy person.
i brought this up the last time this topic was discussed:
the issue with the line of reasoning here is that God is the One who regenerates the heart. We follow that- none of us causes ourselves to be saved.
However, if God does NOT regenerate a heart it cannot be saved! Therefore whether we want to say that God is not actively choosing to predestinate a person to hell, that is EXACTLY what is happening. God does not change a person’s heart so he CANNOT believe in a saving way, therefore it is LITERALLY God predestining them not to believe!
One hundred percent wrong, everyone who goes to hell because of their sin, God did not make anyone sin. He chose to have mercy on some people, those he did have mercy are still are guilty for the sin they committed.
@@kgar5Stringif we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God hath raised Him from the dead you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Proverbs 20: 9
Who can say, "I have cleansed my heart, I am pure from my sin?"
🙏✝️♥️ Hope you are well Brother Corey, I'm praying for you and your loved ones!
Look at the family unit established by God and its symbolic significance. Our freedom mirrors the autonomy we have as children under our parents' guidance. When a parent intervenes in our decisions, what is said? “As long as you are under my roof, you’re under my rules.” Similarly, as children of God, we are under His roof, His guidance, and His will always takes priority over our own.
Why is it that we're totally fine with the government pulling our strings, but the thought of our perfect almighty God intervening in our lives is just un fathomable… smh 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you again brother, great teacher, God bless love you, still praying.
No, one can fix ur own heart. Only God alone.
Corey could you try to EQ your videos to be louder? They’re really quiet when compared to standard audio conventions. Love these streams; it’s just hard to hear at times even on max volume
This is very deep and I believe it is for people like myself who are struggling to call calvanists brothers/sisters in Christ. The reality is every denomination has people who profess to be christian but reality is not all a true christian who has put his salvation all on and only on Jesus...nothing else... certainly not of themselves
Why are you struggling to call calvinists Christians 😂😂
@@GoodGospel_ hi. I am struggling because the god of Tulip is not the God of the bible. Even JWs Mormons claim to believe in the true God of the bible but malign and twist the very nature of the true God Almighty. At the end it doesn't matter what I think but I do fear for the final outcome of calvanists as I do for JWs Mormons and even Muslims who all claim to hold to God Almighty but have created human theology which distorts the true God.
The hatred for Calvinism blinds people from the truth of scripture. I don’t consider myself a Calvinist because I’m still working their doctrine out in my head. I am a member of a Calvinist church because I love expository preaching and I can’t see any holes in the preaching. The Bible says what it says, I can’t help that it goes against free grace, free will doctrine. Until listening to Corey here, Calvinism was the only view of scripture that harmonized the entire word of God. Every other view was man centered theology that only partially adhered to scripture. As much as we want to have the control (free will) , scripture says otherwise. I don’t want to be a Calvinist because of the hatred it receives but it’s closer to the truth than Arminianism. Arminianism leads to some unbiblical soteriological ideas like loss of salvation or salvation not being a gift of God. It diminishes the power of the Holy Spirit. It allows for charismatics to think they can be apostles. At least with Calvinism you know you can’t do anything without Christ.
This topic has always been interesting to me. Corey when you said "that he has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation," the very next verse says "that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us." I will watch the rest of your video to see if you cover this, however it seems like God has determined that we should seek Him. That's an action of the will. If perhaps, there's a choice. We may or we might not. We should and believers do. This leads me to conclude that God's will is for our salvation and He puts us where we are so that we will choose Him. He is not far from each one of us so the only way I can see someone being put in the place where they would seek Him and not doing so is free will, a gift of God used wrongly. Our will should align with God's for our salvation. If I'm wrong that's ok I still have put my trust in Jesus whether I have free will or not. Brother Corey if I get the chance to speak with you on this I'd like to. If you are busy that's ok too.
Parable or lesson of the prodigal son was at home. Everything was already set for home but he had to be in the right place called predestination. That is our plan for our salvation. It is already set up but we have to be in the right place basically stated. It is true hell was not made for man.
Corey I would love for you to reach out to Frank to see if he will come on to talk this topic out. That would be a great talk. Frank Turek is very good at explaining his view
Your will is always under the influence of something.Your either a slave to sin (in Adam spiritually dead) or slave to righteousness ( in Jesus being spiritually alive ) .
Calvinists have a deep disdain for non Calvinists Corey
I worry that a lot of people believe that God is beholden to our free will. Paul was on his way to destroy some believers, when Christ knocked him off his horse and in God’s mercy gave him a new heart. I do not remember Christ asking Paul if he’d like to suffer for the proclamation of the gospel. Christ told him what he had been called for. Christ elected him. Some people call that a violation of Paul’s free will, Paul called it MERCY.
“I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service, even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief;”
1 Timothy 1:12-13 NASB1995
Paul was a Pharisee. Paul knew the Scriptures. When Jesus appeared to him, he understood that it was God appearing to him. How is that a violation of his free will?
God choosing to "prove" Himself to someone in a manner in which there can be no doubt is not a deterministic violation of Paul's free will, it's persuasion with a guaranteed success rate because of His foreknowledge. Even though the outcome might still be the same, it's a huge difference.
@@ReclaimerX22 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son WILLS to reveal Him.”
Matthew 11:27 NASB1995
👆This is SALVATION. God in His mercy elects someone and chooses to reveal Christ to them. Paul believed in Christ because he was a Pharisee?? He literally says he was a blasphemer and a violet aggressor. He did not believe because he was a Pharisee, he believed because God showed him mercy.
Finally this is what Paul thought of his pharisaism…👇
“More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death;”
Philippians 3:8-10 NASB1995
@@childofgrace1234 Are you purposely misrepresenting my point, or did you just make a mistake?
My point was that Paul was a Pharisee - he was educated in and knew the Scriptures. Which means that, just like any other Pharisee, he was equipped to recognize Jesus when he saw Him. Some didn't, obviously, because they were blinded by their own status, traditions, self-righteousness, etc. Others did recognize Jesus, like Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea. If Paul had seen Jesus during his earthly ministry, he likely would've recognized Him for who He is then, but he didn't. Jesus, in His sovereign timing, revealed Himself to Paul later. This is merely persuasion, not an example of God overriding someone's free will.
Very informative video. I understand calvinism much better now. No matter how old it is we all know it as calvinism. The most important thing is that we are all saved. Most of people anyway, if not all, who are watching this are most likely saved people. Whether they believe God chose them by his grace and gifted them salvation because it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Or whether they believe God chose them by his grace and gifted them salvation because it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that he chose to believe. It doesn't matter if you're a calvinist, baptist, methodist, presbyterian, dispensationalist or whatever. If you believe, you're saved. This little issue gets people heated and sows discord among believers. Do you believe or does God make you believe? Doesn't matter. Once you believe you're blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places and are sealed with that holy spirit of promise. Amen. God bless brother.
The Word of God causes some to seek Him ❤
The word of God says no one seeks after God
FREE WILL, IS A GIFT GIVEN TO MANKIND AS WELL AS ANGELS, WHAT WE DO WITH THIS GIFT. WILL BE UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL HERE ON EARTH. MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THEY HAVE FREE WILL THAT SPRIT THAT CAME OUT OF HEAVEN, AND MOST PEOPLE CHOSE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS POWER, FOR MANY REASONS THEIR CULTURES BEING ONE OF REASONS WHY THEY DON'T PRACTICE THEIR FREE WILL GIVEN TOO THEM BY THE GREAT ONE YAHWEH THE HEAVENLY FATHER.
Where did you read in the scripture that your will was free? Your will is you mind, if you have free will, why have you not chose to never sin again?
@@kgar5String THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF FREE WILL, LEARNING BETWEEN WHAT IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD AND WHAT IS GOOD, AND MAKING THE CHOSE, MIND YOU OUR FREE WILL IS BEING TESTED EACH MOMENT OF OUR EXISTENCE, EVERYDAY FROM DUST UNTIL SUNRISE. AND WE BEING HUMAN BEING ARE WEAK, OUR CARDINAL MINDS WILL ALWAYS STAND IN THE WAY. TRYING IT'S BEST TOO STAND IN THE OF OUS NOT PRACTICING OUR, FREE WILL, YOU CAN THANK ALL THAT IS EVIL ON THIS EARTH FOR THAT, AND FREE WILL IF ONE DOES NOT KNOW THEY HAVE IT ONE WILL NEVER PRACTICE IT.
“O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!”
Romans 11:33
Can a person explain the working of GOD fully? If he says we are chosen then that’s what we are, if he says to rest in him then that’s what we are to do, my answer to these 2 are yes both are true, there are a lot of scriptures that teach both sides, so how do we explain both?
“There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the LORD your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you. Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: and a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.”
Deuteronomy 11:25-28 KJV
Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." (Mark 9:24, NASB)
If we recognize the unbelief of our heart we can ask the Lord to correct this condition.
6 But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, "GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE." 7 Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you. (James 4:6-10, NASB)
God is ultimately responsible for showing mercy for our condition.
Their is nothing like free will.....what's there is God's Will only.
By obeying the word will cause your heart to be circumcised
There are no scripture that says something you do causes your heart to be circumcised, only God causes us to be born again and there was never a condition attached.
@@kgar5Stringso even if I obey the word of God I can still go to hell ? So even if I want salvation god can tell me no ???
It was the choice David chose to ask GOD create in me a clean heart. You order a fat burger from MCDONALD'S restaurants based on what you say. That is your free will. A McDonald's fat burger is exactly what you will receive. GOD is never surprised at our choices neither is your GPS confused to get us back on the right track. LORD JESUS help us to choose rightly.
We chose what to put on. We choose at a restaurant what yo eat. Most important of all we choose to believe what the Bible says. You believe what that chemistry book says and your electronic devices a lot of times not understanding how it works except on a very superficial level. Give the Bible the same repsect and always believe.
If God forced us to love Him, then we wouldn't be able to say we have free will. A teaching/belief of Heiser's that I have trouble with is his take on hell not being eternal ..his reasoning is that death is separation from God and Jesus defeated death at Calvary.... He defeated death, as in physical death, so there could be eternal life for those who believe, He didn't defeat spiritual death.
The next step I take is dependent upon many variables. Is there a solid surface for me to step on? Are my muscles strong enough to carry my own weight? Is the endolymph fluid in my ear stable enough to hold my balance? Are my eyes good enough to see where I'm going? Every breath we breathe and every step we take is dependent upon an outside influence which God has had His hand in. How much more the spiritual things we cannot see?
Super 👍👌🙏❤️🇩🇰
YES!!! God chooses for salvation!!!
try again, you’re a steward of the decision.
SoHe also chooses people for hell?
Ephesians 1, who is the "us" vs the "you" in the chapter? Does that distinction make a difference in how the chapter is understood??
I go by the understanding that God is eternal who lives outside of space and time, who created space and time. We know in the scriptures that God is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. He foreknew before we were even created. So by this understanding it is my belief that because God already knows the outcome, He also knows who will receive His word, and who will refuse His word.
We also know that God is never changing, does not lie, and is good since sin cannot exist in His realm. With that understanding it is my belief that God does not make us believe or disbelieve. However, He can make His presence known (Saul who becomes Paul as one example of many) and by this new understanding will open the heart and mind of that individual who will then believe. God can move in ways that He knows will make us a true believer in Him. That does not mean he forced that person to believe. I look at it more like He lifted the curtain for a moment for that individual to see or know the truth.
If God decided to give us the same experience as He gave the Apostle John, we would pierce our physical realm and see with our spiritual eyes all that God wanted to reveal and experience. It would most likely transform our thoughts and minds in ways we cannot understand right now unless we experienced it directly as the Apostle John did. We would most likely become true believers.
With all this as my current understanding and belief, I am so eternally grateful that my heart and mind were in a ready state to hear His word and truly believe without a shadow of a doubt that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. That only through Him can we come to the Father. Only through Jesus our sins are paid by Him through our belief in Him. My heart goes out to all who are not open or willing to hear His word and invite Him into their hearts so that the Holy Spirit may testify to their spirit and the truth will set them free.
I love you all and desire none of you to perish in disbelief. Nothing is more important in life than to come to know the truth and believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To have eternal life in His presence instead of eternal life forever separated from His presence. We may stumble along the way, but always be diligent in coming to our Lord in repentance and prayer. That the fruits of our salvation is made known by our walk in the light of Christ and the salt of the Earth.
“There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:6-14 KJV
Amen and Amen "But as many as received Him' not as many as were elect/chosen/predestined. We have to hear the Gospel of the good news, believe and repent
@@kediasjackson101 In order for what to happen?
@@kgar5String for the remission of our sins Acts 2:38 ie salvation that all believers will receive on the final day Matt 25:32
That you were born was not your will. Whether you will be born again will not be by your will. When Jesus said, "Ye must be born again, or you cannot see the kingdom of God", He was explaining the resurrection. We had to be born to come into this physical world. We will have to be "born again" in the resurrection to come into the kingdom of God.
John 3:3-6 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water [physical birth, born] and of the Spirit [resurrected, born again], he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
We are still flesh (dust); we are not yet spirit.
John 3:7-9 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
We are not yet like the wind.
1 Corinthians 15:53-54 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Ezekiel 37:11-14 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
I’m God’s will free will only goes to a certain extent
Can you explain Psalms 51:10 ?
Brother Corey,
We know that God could have just made humans to do whatever he wants them to do, and be however he wants them to be.
So if that is all God wanted, then all the gory pain and sufferings of humanity would be so vain and unnecessary. And would be an indictment against the Biblical character of God.
The Scriptures you read in 2 Peter 3:9
"The Lord is....... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
This verse of Scripture alone totally destroys the notion, that God totally chooses who will be Saved without any participation on the part of the one receiving Salvation.
This verse of Scripture is the truth, and being the truth means that if a person being Saved has no part in accepting God's Salvation, but are totally and completely Saved by God's sovereign will, then according to this one verse, God would Save EVERYONE.
NO ONE WOULD BE LOST, Because that is God's will.
We know that we are ALL born spiritually dead towards God, with no ability whatsoever to reach up to God.
Death cannot reach up to life, life must reach down to death.
So that is what the Holy Spirit does in the world. He touches every heart, giving each person the opportunity to either run to the light or run deeper into the darkness.
So, God is the initiator, but he does this for everyone.
John 1:9 KJV
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
John 16:8-9 KJV
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [9] Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Christ, in the person of the Holy Spirit enlightens the heart of everyone, but not everyone responds in their heart to seek God, but many choose to reject Him.
The following Scriptures clearly says the predestination and election of God is based upon the foreknowledge of God.
Romans 8:29 KJV
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1 Peter 1:2 KJV
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Any understanding of other Scriptures on this subject, must be rightly with the truth of these Scriptures.
No. It is a straw man argument to say those who are Saved, and believe that there was a choosing by their own heart involved in their Salvation, means they think they have something to boast about. That is not what any of us have EVER said, believe or express. Except God touches us first, we would all still be dead in our trespasses and sins.
That is your Strawman, beat him, burn him or drown him, who cares, its your Straw Man, not ours.
God Bless
Why did Jesus speak parables, he said it was not for them to know, If he spoke plainly they would repent, this scripture alone say it is not all men. Jesus also said it was hidden from the wise and the prudent, you can't repent of the gospel is hidden from you. Stop calling God's scripture a straw-man he will hold you accounting, he inspired the scripture.
@@kgar5Stringso how do a person know they are saved….. better yet are saying that God is deliberate hiding the gospel so certain people won’t get saved?
if we freely choose to go to hell why wouldnt God just cause them to believe when his will is for everyone to be saved? this contradicts the love of God. God wills all to believe so choice is on both sides. Believers were predestined(those that believe) not your ability to believe.
1)There is a giant billboard that beckons people to receive a product.
2) There is a salesman that is influencing you personally to receive the same product.
I would prefer the latter (2) example.
I find that compatible with the scriptures.
Deuteronomy 30:1-6 gives more context/ conditions.
Jesus said in his prayer. his disciples I said I have chosen them
Jesus Himself said Many (the world) are called, but Few are chosen (Believers). And also God has known those who will be conformed to the Son of His love.
Nowhere in the scripture does it say or allude to the fact that Love demands free will, your will is your mind/heart, if you mind is that free, chose to never sin again? God gives a new heart, it is called being born again and Jesus was referring to Ezekiel 36:25-27 when talking to Nicodemus about being born again, in those verses God is the one who puts his spirit in us and causes us to walk in his way, he is the that takes out our heart of stone (will) and puts in heart of flesh (his spirit).
There is no such thing as "free will". None of us had a choice in the family, nation, ethnicity, city or state that we are born into. Do we think John the Baptist had a "free will" to not be who God made him to be? Think about it in light of the scriptures. Read Romans chapters 9-11.
1st cor. 6: 12 all things are permissible, but not profitable. 👈 ( free will )
In Deuteronomy 10:16 along with Jeremiah 4:4 the Lord declares that people must circumcise their own hearts. That contradicts what you just said.
Chose ye This day who you are going to serve! Why would you stick your had in a fire of flames knowing it's going to burn plus it's painful?
The closed theists manifesting by their gods decree.
Paul introduces Greek Philosophy and its strange and contrary. Now I just read Shem Tob's Matthew and Revelation. Every Christian teacher ignores the final.command in Revelation 18:4. Most falsely claim that it's a spiritual separation but what's described of Mystery Babylon is a real place, a great city that rules over men. Ministers ignore this because they are hyperfocused on building congregations of followers. What does this command mean to you brother Corey?
I started to read old testament stories but couldnt get through the horrific tortures and killings i had no idea it was so violent .
Yes but once you get to The Prophets , you will understand why God did what he did. Remember. This is a spiritual battle so yes, it’s humans killing humans. But also A spiritual war going on , especially in the Old testament
So you don’t like God and are judging him on what you think good is and what bad is,only God can make that determination
@@kgar5String
The new testament one was harder for me ...God allowed Herod to send his soilders into the city with their knife's and swords break into homes and kill all first born sons of any family's because jesus was born? ...no thanks thats just horrific ....I. not judging anyone I'm reading it as it says and for me it's not the kind of religion that I'm interested in following .
You don’t get to pick a religion, either God is real or he is not, if he is real and this true, you would be in trouble because he did not meet your standard of what is good and what is evil, he is the one who determines what is good and what is evil not us.
@@kgar5String exactly and we wouldn’t even KNOW the difference if we hadn’t eaten from the tree all the way back in Genesis ‼️
😮 when Adam and Eve sinned they lost all their free will. In Hebrew it said that God will be perpetuation for our sins. So when God bought us back from singing we belong to him say it in the scriptures where no more on because we have been bought with a price
The two are not opposed.
I think free will is free, yet God being sovreign and omnipotent has the power to influence, impact or even bend the will of man and subject it to HIS divine will. By doing that HE still continues to remain righteous and just as all the recipients whom HE deals with were natural born sinners. Please correct me if I'm off on this one. Godbless you Corey.
Your will is your heart/mind, no one has control which is why you have to be born again (new heart). If your will is free, chose to never sin again.
Ezekiel 33:6-7, Acts 17:30-31. Why would there be judgement if the judge has already chosen who will be guilty and who is innocent? Salvation is an available to all but some men love evil and didn’t accept the light.. anyone that says salvation is not available to all is a lair and makes mockery of Christ blood sacrifice. We are all deserve wrath but god loves us all that he allows us to choose him. That’s why the bride and groom analogy is used.
He doesn’t control who will sin but he does determine who he will forgive, he does not owe anyone forgiveness, it’s whoever he wants to forgive. He does not send anyone to hell, their sin does.
@@kgar5String no based on your logic. God send people to hell because he controls who he forgives. He made the choice not to take some people on the airplane even though he could have.
@@quincysthillaire It is not my logic, you only go to hell because of your sin, you are the one the sinned not God. If a black robs a bank, and a white robs a bank, the police arrest both of them, gives the black man 20 years and the white man probation, both the black and the white man knew if they were caught the punishment would be 20 years, you are not treated wrong you get what you deserve, the white man did not.
It sounds as though you don't like who God is. If what he says in his word is true and you think it is evil you are judging God on your standard of what good and evil is which is rejecting God.
“Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?” (Romans 9:21-23). The vessels of wrath are contrasted with the vessels of mercy; one set is slated for destruction, and the other for glory.
That is dumb, you want to blame God so go ahead he will judge you for it. His word says he can make vessels of honor and dishonor who are you to question. When you question God’s righteousness you are rejecting him.
@@kgar5String Paul was saying god has every right to make vessels for honor and for dishonor. Please psalms 78 and explain you logic in light of god commanding us to teach his word to our children. Also explain 1 Timothy 2:4?
God can do whatever he wants to, however he wants to. As long as it doesn't violate his personal holy character.
So the question is this, if as God, I want to make human creatures that will serve me because that is how I made them, then why would I put them through the current human experience, except if I didn't make the human creatures to serve me just because I made them that way, but made them with a freewill to either accept me as their Creator or reject me as their Creator.
Then the current human experience is a valid, and perhaps the only way to allow the human freewill experience to play out.
And the truth is this, Love Demands A Freewill.
If a person is stripped of their freewill, they will also be stripped of their ability to love anyone, even God.
God Bless
“love demands a free will”.. where does scripture say this? That is not a biblical view.
Love you brother. In other words God makes a way and we are deciding factor?
Electrical universe. Out of the 4 states of matter, what is the universe mainly composed of? Plasma.
Weird how you said you weren't talking about Calvinism but people kept mentioning Calvinism the whole time 😅
When you can't refute with scripture you insult.
God doesn’t need you to be perfect and circumcise your heart for him to choose you Cory.
This is where you are missing the mark.
God didn’t circumcise the disciples hearts before Jesus chose them.
He chose them because he saw something in their heart that will let them truly believe.
No one is perfect and God don’t need us to be perfect for him to choose to work in us. He needs us to have the right heart before we were even saved. Before he circumcises our heart.
Why are we missing this?
He tells us how he chooses people.
Why did he choose Abel offering over Cains?
This was not commanded not a law. It came from something in Abel that Cain didn’t have.
This is everywhere.
What verse says "God saw something in our hearts that will let them truly believe"?
@@Psalm13924 “Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.”
John 1:47-48 KJV
“Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.”
John 2:23-25 KJV
“And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.”
Luke 16:15 NKJV
“But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.””
I Samuel 16:7 NKJV
How many places do you need me to show you?
I even looked at the psalm in your name and found your answer. How is it you can’t see it?
“Search me, O God, and know my heart; Try me, and know my anxieties; And see if there is any wicked way in me, And lead me in the way everlasting.”
Psalms 139:23-24 NKJV
It’s literally everywhere you look in the Bible. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Psalm13924 "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!
Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee." John 1:47-48 KJV
"Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."
John 2:23-25 KJV
"And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God." Luke 16:15 NKJV
"But the Lord said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." " I Samuel 16:7 NKJV
How many places do you need me to show you?
I even looked at the psalm in your name and found your answer. How is it you can't see it?
"Search me, O God, and know my heart;
Try me, and know my anxieties; And see if there is any wicked way in me, And lead me in the way everlasting." Psalms 139:23-24 NKJV
It's literally everywhere you look in the Bible.
@@bullybroadcast3474read most comments yours makes the most sense as the condition of the heart is the key ,and consciousness.yahweh operates In absolute perfection.
No one can come to me unless my father draw him
It seems to be a never ending Christian argument but one thing I’m 100% certain of is I’ve never met a pagan that wishes they were of Christ’s elect or chosen but I’ve only ever met Christians that hate election and don’t believe God chooses some and not others and yet they will inherit eternal life… just meditate on that and let it sink in.
Yes he does.
Ephesians 1:5 = predestined to justification ✅️
Ephesians 1:5 does not = predestined to glorification
Predestined us to adoption AS sons. Huiothesia. It's not the same as Romans 8:23.
Ephesians 1:5 = Romans 8:16 = Galatians 4:5. All regarding justification/sonship.
I’m not sure why you made a distinction from Gods definition of Free Will offering vs Man’s definition for Free Will.
Why would we change the meaning if it’s Gods definition not ours.
Also I don’t see a difference from a Free Will offering vs what we need to do for God to work in us and step in with our Free Will.
Why are you making it mean 2 different things?
Can we choose to offer our soul to the world and not God?
If God tells us over and over do not worship any other gods then we obviously have free will (Gods definition not man’s) to choose.
What is Love according to God?
What is different in our inner man that makes God choose one and not the other?
What do we have to offer as a free will offering? Is it not our soul? Does God not tell us this is our choice?
Did Jesus not offer his life for ours by choosing to do Gods will over his own will?
“saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.””
Luke 22:42 NKJV
Is Jesus not our example?
Is this not what we are supposed to do?
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.”
Romans 12:1 NKJV
“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”
Galatians 2:20 NKJV
So please explain to me how it’s different from a free will offering.
What is it that we all have in common?
We are all born with the same ability to choose to sacrifice for another. That is called Love. It’s called having a pure heart even if it’s for a moment or moments. God doesn’t say we need to be perfect because it’s impossible. But there’s something God sees in us that he judges who is his people and who is not.
“But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.””
I Samuel 16:7 NKJV
There’s way too many examples in the Bible to ignore.
God still doesn’t give everyone new heart.
You are saying we have to circumcise our hearts for him to work in our life but I don’t agree. It doesn’t say that in the Bible.
He is giving a new heart because if he don’t we will not be perfect for him and Holy.
No one is Holy inwardly but that doesn’t mean he chose people based on nothing of our own.
He chooses to make our spirit perfect so we can please him.
Then one day he will also make our Body perfect as well.
Where in the scripture did God give a definition of free will?
@@kgar5String It’s important to look at why Abel’s offering was accepted and not Cains.
Then what does the Bible tell us on why God does not accept our offerings?
Paul touches on this later when he tells us in Corinthians how we are to give offerings to God and how not to.
Does God force us or does he want it to be genuine?
I will leave scripture but if you can’t see it then I suggest you pray for the Holy Spirt to show you Truth.
“‘Take from among you an offering to the Lord. Whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as an offering to the Lord: gold, silver, and bronze;”
Exodus 35:5 NKJV
“The children of Israel brought a freewill offering to the Lord, all the men and women whose hearts were willing to bring material for all kinds of work which the Lord, by the hand of Moses, had commanded to be done.”
Exodus 35:29 NKJV
“But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.”
II Corinthians 9:6-8 NKJV
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”
Romans 12:1-2 NKJV
“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”
Galatians 2:20 NKJV
Not everyone has a willing heart to sacrifice for their brother or neighbor.
The Bible says none will choose God unless he chooses us but it never says we can’t have a giving heart to people.
Jesus says even an evil person gives gifts to thier children.
We were made in Gods Image so he gave us all the qualities and what we need to be genuine. This is explained in Romans 2.
“for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)”
Romans 2:14-15 NKJV
No man will be without excuse.
Saying some are chosen and others are not no matter what is contradictory to the Bible and there’s no way around that at all.
So I suggest not reading scripture to fit your understanding and changing it. But read scripture with love and try to understand God and what he’s telling us throughout the whole Bible.
What is more likely: Man’s free will can bind Gods free will. Or Gods free will binds man’s free will.
Both “sides” can have pride.
Calvinists can be prideful about their theology.
But anti Calvinists can be prideful that they “chose” God.
Which pride is worse?? Ah that is why I lean reformed (but not fully).
“Election” generates 2 basic responses:
Pride - “that’s not fair!”
Humility - “God only you can do this”
Anti Calvinists: “that’s not fair God!”
Whoo…. Good luck with that attitude. You’re probably mad all the time, why? Because God is sovereign! Just surrender to that fact friends.
Corey, you have talked about and debated about the fact once someone is saved, they cannot lose their salvation. How can you tell Gregory that you have always said that a person can choose Christ and not be regenerated, but yet you won’t keep believing unless you are regenerated. This is inconsistent. Corey you are so close to the truth. Give God all the glory and sovereignty he is due. No one can come to the father unless they are called and regenerated. Also, there is only one soil that the seed is planted and rooted. When did God decide for each person… before the foundations of the world. Praying for you brother.
, based on your responses I wouldn’t think you would agree with me. I hope you someday will see it in scripture as I do… but it’s up to God, not me. :) and he is good and faithful and I trust him.
Truth. Facts. He is a modern say Pharisee.
@@JC-sr3zt “Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.”
John 14:22-31 KJV
“We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”
1 John 4:6 KJV
“And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, that I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; and then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: that your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.”
Deuteronomy 11:13-21 KJV
@@samanthadaniel5320 he is not.
@@JC-sr3zt if he is not telling people that Jesus came and that the Holy Spirit is reigning and the kingdom to come, then he is a pharisee.
You can’t place your faith unless you can define it! If I were you I would check with the author of your faith!😮
1:19:38 Guess they should apply that same predestined logic to the lottery. After the numbers are shown go buy the ticket and say you win 😂😂😂.
Thanks Corey but I think a few clear minded sessions with a person like Leighton Flowers would benefit you. I know this video is not meant to address calvanism but lets be honest when speaking about thus topic the Tulip aroma will inevitably hit the air. I am not as articulate as you and am not ashamed to admit my ignorance of scriptures. God bless
Good book to read would be bandage of the will by Martin Luther man will is only capable of doing what his sin nature likes.
Bondage
This is not the only dilemma we face when considering God’s plan in salvation. We would all agree that God knows everything that has happened, is happening and will happen. The dilemma with freewill is …. God knew before the foundation of the world those that would choose him, yet he made them anyway. So we could accuse God of being unfair for creating those he knew would not choose him.
No, you can't accuse Him. That's your little human brain speaking, not the Holy Spirit.
Revelation 20:10, beast and false prophet were doomed from the womb. That's true for all the unelect.
God is always righteous.
I don’t think I was totally clear in what I was trying to convey. I agree with you 100%.
I believe the only 2 humans that had free will were Adam & Eve but only up until they ate of the fruit then it was all over.
Mankind and angels are creatures having free will.
This book is for believers, period - Israel - IT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!
It’s also for Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ.
@@antanitapickett3217 and the Gentiles are also Israel. You have to read the Apocrypha, especially the seven chapters of Esther that were removed as well as 2 Esdras. Daniel also has two additional books that were removed that show us clearly he revealed the false prophets and slay the dragon. Revelation 20:12 and Daniel 12 talk about the books being opened and Revelation was never a sealed books except what the voice of the two thunders said.
Romans 9:22-23 stumps people just like 1 Tim 2:11-14. They always pretend verse 15 does not exist because they would have to explain if Apostle Paul is suggesting another way to Salvation. The Bible answers Bible questions if we study with a sober mind we get what the Apostle was talking about. Never forget the warning from Apostle Peter. There's nothing wrong in saying I don't know because we all know in part, that includes ALL
Everything God intended for us to know about him he put in his word.
@@kgar5String Absolutely but some have perverted the word of God or misrepresented it unintentionally. The Apostle Peter warned about how difficult the writings of Paul were even during their time
His choice.
Our fault. ❤
Oh no this is the whole robot lie 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
I wonder why Jesus says seek and you shall find 🤔
The problem is, The scripture says no one seeks after God
@@kgar5String Jeremiah 29:13 "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart", Matthew 6:33 "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well", James 4:8 "Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded", Hebrews 11:6 "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him" (see also 1 Chronicles 16:11; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Acts 17:27). (David is on who sought after God, as well as Abraham and Moses). While men may not naturally seek God due to their inherent sinful nature, the opportunity to seek and find God is made possible through God's grace and invitation (to all men) and a person can set one's mind and heart after God, through prayer, reading Scripture, worship and fellowship with God and other believers. What do you think about this?
You are either a slave to Christ or a slave to sin as a believer in Christ. Natural man has not been purchased by Christ hence, they are a slave to sin only. Natural man will only exercise his sinful nature of me, myself,and I. Slaves are not free by definition. What gives the Christian the ability to choose right or wrong is truly knowing the truth of God’s Word which offers up a choice of right or wrong in the path of obedience vs disobedience.
Calvinist is not a 4 letter word
Does man have free will?
No. The carnal man has a will. And this will that man possesses is not free but enslaved. The enslaved man makes choices according to his fallen nature, due to the fall. And because man is dead in trespasses and sins, he has lost the moral ability to choose what is good. He chooses evil of necessity due to a corruption of nature, and cannot do otherwise, so his will is in bondage to sin.
Jesus said "he who sins is a SLAVE to sin.. but if the Son sets you free you will be free indeed." Here the bible defines freedom relative to our relationship to sin. Last time I checked, a slave is not free, which is why only the grace of God can set us free from bondage. Jesus declared "the Spirit quickens, the flesh counts for nothing... that is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me grants it." - John 6;63, 65
Sophistry
Imagine a god who punishes you for all eternity for something you have not chosen to do.
Name the person who did not chose to sin, that is the only reason anyone goes to hell
@@kgar5String well, according to calvinism God had chosen that people are sinners. I haven't chosen to sin I am born a sinner so I had no choice.
I had no choice because my natural behavior is to sin, which God predestined for me.
Do you expect me as a 5 year old to have the knowledge that I am damned to hell if I lie because I am scared of someone?
Christians say - And so say I - That we are born sinners.
I didn't choose to be born a sinner.
I'd rather be born a godly and perfectly holy man. But I am not.
I could NOT choose to be one.
Nobody comes to the father but through Christ, right?
So either someone burns eternally for something he has done but had no other choice or even worse from the calvinist standpoint:
You burn in hell for all eternity for not believing something of which God willingly prevented you from so you burn in hell and not get saved because he wanted so.
Awesome
Jesus said in John 6:44 “no man can come to me unless the Father who has sent me draws them”.
Our will is dead in our transgressions Ephesians 2:1
The assumption show you guys know so much of what god wants and thinks because of a book. Absurd
This is so simple.
What is the Bible talking about?
Free will is everywhere and election is in a few chapters misinterpreted.
The Bible never even once describes the will of a man is free.
Free will isn’t a doctrine. It’s just a complaint about predestination.
@@aletheia8054
“‘If his offering is a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish; he shall offer it of his own free will at the door of the tabernacle of meeting before the Lord.”
Leviticus 1:3 NKJV
Do you know what the purpose of a free will offering is and means?
Why was Abel’s offering accepted and not cains?
It’s a genuine free will offering.
Without compulsion.
So maybe God is lying and saying he makes you give a free will offering.
That would sound better I guess to prove the Calvinist right.
Maybe we should change what God says or the meanings of words to make what we say sound good. 🤦🏻♂️
Choose life or death.
I mean how much do we need to see to understand what free will is.
Even Jesus showed us what his will was vs God the Fathers will.
“saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.””
Luke 22:42 NKJV
Is Jesus not our example?
He clearly showed us here how his will wanted a different way but his choice to do the Fathers will is what he wanted to do.
He’s showing us no matter what we have to go through we must want to do Gods will over our own free will.
Not sure how many places in the Bible it needs to say it for people to admit it.
? Seeing God is the beginning of everything man did He made some for heaven and some for hell are everyone have the same choice please answer this tks blessings
@@perrycummings9050 Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
@@perrycummings9050 “The preparations of the heart belong to man, But the answer of the tongue is from the Lord. All the ways of a man are pure in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the spirits. Commit your works to the Lord, And your thoughts will be established. The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom. Everyone proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord; Though they join forces, none will go unpunished. In mercy and truth Atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the Lord one departs from evil. When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him. Better is a little with righteousness, Than vast revenues without justice. A man’s heart plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps.”
Proverbs 16:1-9 NKJV
Don’t let these people pull one verse and try to interpret it to fit their mind.
Read the Bible knowing what it says about God.
There is no middle knowledge😂
Corey. Jeremiah said I know the plan that I have for you.. any other part of that scripture said that you may come to an expected in.
I want to set to you quit trying to explain spiritual things by nature means. This is not the English class
It is clear that none of us deserve salvation so how God chooses is up to His sovereign will. God is already merciful that He saves some but not all.
God chooses for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. Both are done by God. Human will not a factor.
Free will is an invention, a straw man for Calvinists. It's no way in the bible so please don't force it on anyone because it would distort the discussion in one direction. Let's stick to scripture which is explicit that some are elected for God's purpose not salvation. Abraham, Issac, Jacob and The Nation of Israel elected to bring about the incarnation of the Jesus Christ
Stop reading those perverted and molested translation of bibles, and stick with a kjv Bible. Freewill is all through the Bible. God choose to save according to His word, according to the sincere profession of your faith. Salvation is free, but there are conditions to meet, to get it.
@@contendingforthefaith9897 wow! You really have some ignorance
JESUS died for all . ✌❤
God calls us and we make the choice to either follow him or not. God gave his only begotten son "(whosoever shall believe in him)" will not perish but have everlasting life. That's a choice
@@contendingforthefaith9897 chapters and verses please
The Father already knew, foretelling the future, the decisions each person was gonna make based off the decisions their parents would make.
Meaning He knew what parents would obey him, and the ones who would not.
Remember this
for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Lol
Emmanuel macron is the man of sin.