World's Lightest Gaming Mouse (insane)
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Optimum would 100% smoke out any other tech content creator in a FPS shootout. Dude has insane aim and doesnt even flex about it.
Well Haus Gaming and Fresh Reviews are/were actual top pro players.
fresh reviews has a higher rank then optimum in apex atleast
more to fps than just aim, but his aim is godly
@@haasii yh being a higher rank than someone doesnt mean = better aimer especially in apex which is more about rotationing, positioning, decision making and comms than mechanical ability in higher ranked games
Facts he’s a real gigachad
Iv'e been using the m2k for the past 6 7months, and it is alien tech, is almost unfair to describe how good it is. If you play fingertip is heaven on earth.
W take
are you not using the starlight mouse as your main?
@@multimanfail I boght 6 starlights (i really liked it) but after using the m2k I just cant go back, is just too good.
Is it a shooter exclusive for you or do you play other games as well? Especially the side buttons are important for me or at least I think do haha
ive played mine for about 5 months now, on and off. still didn’t reach my peak performance.
think i’m missing some stability from how short it is, but this is a skill issue
This is exactly the kind of content that none of the other tech channels will do and why I subbed ages ago
I can't agree with him that the lighter the mouse the better this is simply not true, look at the g502 a chunky BOI with a lot of weight most bought gaming mouse in the world.
Ltt has already done a vid on this mouse bruh
@@badgjr6795 you're implying that most bought = actually the best
@@cheyhey2170 Thats true but think about it comparise a lot of those expensive light mouses to some of the cheaper mouses that might be more heavy as a G502 Main user that thing rocks even tho how much weight it has and all the features for that price would say its better then the G pro Superlight just bc of the insane price mark the GPX has
@@Tens-M I dont know if you're good at games but I used to the use the g502 and its definitely shit for high level fps games the lighter the mouse the more accurate you are it is what it is accept it
5:40 I absolutely love how you included results for the Viper V2 Pro, your graphs and results are my number one deciding factor for gaming mice info and purchase decision making, great video as always!!
I was also curious, how do you make your graphs, do you make them in after effects or illustrator or something else?
I would like to know too
in one video he showed that he has these machines that run all his tests and since because they are machines, his test results will always be 100% accurate, i just don't know how the machines actually work tho
yes same lol
Dude, I love your channel more from video to video, you found the mouse review niche and fill it in so great, your testing methods are also top notch and the presentation speaks for itself, keep it up! :>
This is a great review. I kinda thought this thing was a meme. The lack of side buttons is a bummer but it looks like it could fit my grip style.
A real Zaunkönig only weighs in at 7,5 to 11g. It is the 3rd smallest song bird in Europe. The german name means „king on the fence“ and is pronounced Zaun tsown as in town, könig as in Kœnigsegg.
woah i never knew that ty for telling us
Underrated
I knew they're small, but holy shit you're right. Google says it's 9,1 grams.
3rd smallest lmao why not first smallest
@@kerkertrandov459 well the way math works it would be 3rd because 2 other birds are smaller than it.
Your ability to make all your videos look futuristic is amazing, you content is such great quality. You deserved way more subscribers that you have now
Impressive engineering. Probably doesn't get any lighter than that.
I'm firmly in the palm grip camp and love the shape of my Roccat Kone Pro Air. It's not that light, the battery life is meh and the buttons have some pretravel but the shape and overall performance make it worth it to me.
Just wait for the M1S 🤫
Lol yes I absolutely love the way it feels in my hand. Unparalleled. But was thinking the exact things about the buttons and clicks last night.
@@YomericaORdef the what? 👁👄👁
@@bigsly3332 That will be an extreme version of m1k mouse from Zaunkoenig.
Honeycomb design, bam
what i love about this is that he saw this mouse on the viewer's setup video and just straight up bought it
I love how you keep pushing into new and different PC gaming territories! Keep up the awesome work!!!
Fingertip grip is insanely under appreciated the movements you can make and the freedom you get is insane
Looks uncomfy af.
I remember when Artosis (Starcraft: Broodwar caster, also plays it at a pretty competitive level) reviews or talked about MK1. 22 grams only 2 buttons, no scroll. It was unheard of! Glad too see that they're serious business and to see another one vouching for their prowess.
Amazing video! Love your content. Would it be possible for you to compare it to some other "fingertip only" mice like the Starlight-12 Small and G-Wolves HSK wired/HSK+?
Excellent info here mate, love your work, keep it up, doing Aussie Tech Tubers proud
I’ve owned my m2k for about a year now and I can confidently agree with every point in this video. I used to only be able to palm grip mice so the transition to fingertip was definitely difficult (couldnt even swipe my mouse properly to turn in game) but eventually it just became so natural to use that I refuse to use any other mouse now. Even if this mouse didnt make my aim any better (which it definitely did) I would still 100% recommend it because its so fun to use and unlike anything else. Just waiting for a wireless version at this point :D
When do u think it will come
Bois about to beat the professionals in game 😂😂
What's your highest rank bud?
i'm currently in the same spot as you i exclusively palm grip and cannot fingertip grip for the life of me. did you do aim training to get use to it or just kept playing in general. i wanna pick up the M3K when it drops later on the year.
The production quality this man constantly puts out is absolutely top notch!! Keep it up!!
I'm curious to see how the G-Wolves HSK+ compares to the Zaunkoenig. The HSK+ seems like a budget, wireless version of the MK2. 38 grams for wireless + side buttons seems pretty compelling (even if it is over 50% heavier). Also stunning review as always Ali!
Yea, I have mine preordered, and I hope it's nearly as good as this. People are talking about how the gwolves stuff has QC issues, but it looks like they have someone on the gwolves discord listening intently to feedback, and taking user input for feature requests and color requests.
I think something to consider when it comes to your aim feeling better is the fact that you have gone from this palm claw grip to a fingertip claw grip. This force in grip style does change the way you fundamentally aim. Nonetheless, this is still super impressive
my hand naturally favors finger tip grip so its not always forced. i use Claw now mainly do to switching to the Superlight from the model o- my hand still gravitates to finger tip when im just browsing and doing normal things.
Having used the 53 gram mm710, my viper ultimate feels like a brick now. They could easily go lighter. Those switches in the M2k mouse sound really good.
i remember the video in which you bought it and i‘m really surprised that you like it that much, i‘m currently using a small starlight and might give this thing a try in the future. as always great video!
Hi, why no sensor lag measurement? Thanks for the very good review!
Love your content always educational and honest opinion even being realistic with cost and always give option for all budgets. Thanks for the hard work.
Have to agree with Optimum's review 100%. I've had an M2K for just on a year now & would not change for anything except another Zaunkoenig. You simply forget there is something in your hand it is so light. It is also great to be able to converse with the guys who designed & made it. Yes it is totally insane, expensive, finger tip only & utterly light but definitely worth it.
Where do u rest ur hand tho??? Imagine u lay on ur bed but half of it is cut... Ive always loved big mice, the last one I used was Red Dragon Mammoth M801 Length: 121mm Width: 81mm Height: 41mm however it is really old, heavy and outdated sensor. So I upgraded to Cooler Master MM720 which is only 49g and dimensions of 105.42 x 76.52 x 37.35mm quite a bit smaller but now ive gotten used to it and its just fine and i like it a lot more than my previous mouse cuz its so much lighter and more accurate. I cant imagine myself using smaller mice tho, its like driving a small car or wearing small shoes, just doesnt feel big enough ive tried. And then u have m2k which isnt even a real mouse, like where am I supposed to rest or even put my hand ??? They might as well only leave 2 buttons with a stick taped to ur palm no need of a base or anything... That will weight 5-10 grams prob and be even more of a joke
@@kerkertrandov459 If just cruising the net (like now) my hand is resting on the mouse mat & the fingers push the mouse around. If gaming, I use low dpi/sensitivity, so use big movements of the mouse. My hand is then off the mouse mat and my whole arm is moving. As I said the M2K is so light you really don't notice it is there. I have a Zowie EC1-B which is attached to my games server & although it feels comfortable, it feels so heavy. As Optimum said the M2K is very niche & is for finger tip grip only, so you're not resting your hand on the mouse.
Coming from wireless razer - how is the cable? Is it much inconvenient?
@@dripskydrip The cable is thin and fairly light, but stiffer than a paracord cable. I run the cable through a mouse bungie so it's not very noticeable. I don't notice in game. Comparing it to my (wireless) Finalmouse, the cable is I suppose a bit noticeable, but the Finalmouse is a bit heavier so it balances out.
@@boanerges2252 which mouse bungee do you use?
Great video as per usual, I'd love for you to take a look at the JBL Quantum TWS, they are wireless earbuds (think AirPods Pro) with suitable latency for competitive gaming via 2.4 GHz. I think they are interesting even if you only use them as earbuds and not as a full on headset replacement.
Love your mouse review vids.. could you do a video on the pulsar xlite V2 wireless.. it would be much appreciated and compare it with the other mice you have reviewed on
mice like this are always kind of annoying for me, because they are basically everything i want/need in a mouse yet fail at the most important part, let me explain. I recently got a starlight and the less weight and basically flat sides, made an extremely noticeable improvement in my aim, like i felt like i somehow accidently downloaded aimbot or something when i first used it, it was that noticeable. this mouse is almost 20g lighter and has completely flat sides (i keep mentioning this because it's great for consistency, if you put your hand in a slightly different spot then the last time you held the mouse, it wont massively affect how the mouse is pointed because of a divot in the side), but i use a finger/claw hybrid grip, when i'm just holding the mouse or flicking, i'm using fingertip, but the second i start tracking my hand goes straight to claw with a bit of my palm on the mouse for control, and you can't do that with this mouse or the hsk i tried, it's just like a really small thing that ruins the whole mouse for me. maybe i should start practicing only playing fingertip.
Looks so cool and would love to give it a try but the no side buttons is just too big of a deal breaker for me. I use the side buttons for a ton of different stuff depending on the game.
I imagine you've already been made aware but just in case you haven't - look into the g-wolves HSK :)
(edit: I'm dumb, he's literally made a video on it already, just figured he didn't know since it wasn't mentioned in this video)
Likely not going to be a preferred choice for you but is an option for those that want side buttons / can't shell out $300
also they've just released a wireless version, but it seems it still needs a revision.
Have u tested the glorious ice mousepad? Im intrested in knowing ur opinion on it.. u should try it with ceramic feet or maybe superglides?
Great review. Is it the Otsu soft?
I think you nailed it, put the same thoughts I had into words. It’s hard to explain but it’s truly beautiful to use. It’s ironic but all the finalmouse marketing actually applies to this more than their own product. I use the pulsar mouse bungee, the cable is the weak spot and that’s saying something. Might try to put an air cord in mine but that limits me to 1khz which I personally think is a well worth trade off. I get cpu usage spikes with 8khz and would need to spend time learning which softwares to use and how to monitor and tune my system, if it’s even at all possible. I’m on 8700k@5ghz. Maybe I can put my usb hub on a different core. Or upgrading cpu may handle it better.
Was hoping for a quick comparison with the G-wolves HSK but nevertheless, great vid!!!
Here's hoping you review the HSK Pro!
Would be awesome if you could do a video about your lightning setup, the quality of your video is awesome with theses lights in the background
Would you share your koovaks visual settings with us? Love the contrast and overall theme!
Yesssssss! Ever since you had a video of you ordering this thing I have been waiting. Finally.
I can see how to this true. I tried out Cooler Master MM720 coming from a G Pro and noticed a pretty big improvement in everything. I gave the mouse to a friend since I travel with my SFF and everything I use is cordless other than my gaming pad.
Would be a curious to see your opinion about the Cooler Master MM720 since it's a 49g mouse with really nice ergo for claw grip and really affordable.
for perspective on what peripherals are actually useful for competitive shooters, this is the only channel I watch and trust.
Are you going to review the g wolves HSK Plus? Curious as to your thoughts on that one 😅
Hey man, just wanted to ask if you change your in-game sensitivity based on the mouse weight/skates or simply power through the process of building muscle memory with sheer will? I've upgraded from a G Pro Wireless to the Superlight a month ago and even though the shape is identical, my aim is completely off. When I first got the mouse I tried lowering the sens a bit but ended up swapping between different DPI stages too (I normally play on 800 DPI). I got frustrated and swapped between some other mice I had during that first month, which I now realise was a dumb idea as it made me play even worse when swapping back to the Superlight lol.
Basically, even after a month with (on and off) use, I'm still not used to it. I've kept the same in game sens and dpi for a few days now but I wonder if you have any tips when it comes to adjusting to a new mouse? is it really as simple using it with the same settings or should one lower their settings based on the mouse features? Thanks in advance.
What about modded Superlight to 36g? With side buttons and close to stock looks?
Great review. But would you use it as your daily driver?
What button do you use to crouch on apex? Also great video this mouse is very interesting
Been looking forward to this review since the impromptu purchase during that one video. Definitely not a mouse for me but still incredible!
optimum swooping in with the sweaty scroll wheel jumping haha
hope there would be a comparison to the g wolves hsk, they seems quite alike in the term of shape and concept
hsk plus is something to consider as well if you want side buttons and wireless.
8:19 "I consider myself an avarage covax enjoyer"
Giga chad energy instaly recognized
Great video. So is it becoming your daily driver?
Good day! I miss seeing your videos on my feed Ali. You are lit
When can we expect Razer Viper V2 PRO review as I can see u already mesured end to end latency on V2 PRO?
I don't remember if you've discussed this already, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Alienware QD-Oled monitor if you can get your hands on one.
I have one lol - better than anything else out there
Would like to know the kovaak's scenario for tracking you played in the video? What's the name of the scenario?
5:50 Audi RS wheel just chillin
Need a full in-depth gaming setup tour
And great 😊 content keep it up
Hi optimum, while rtx 40s are close up, are there any chance corsair would release higher supplies like sf1000?
which dpi and sens u using on that and heavier mouses u was talking about?
as always nice content ! :)
Its possible to have a wirless "mouse" lighter than this. Put all the tech inside the mouse pad [like a huge trackpad] and have a mouse like shell made of a very light material. One problem is how do you transmit clicks from the mouse shell onto the mousepad
so youre back to the hayate otsu any thoughts on why you choose that over hein and zero?
Everything the Logitech g pro superlight has is all I need, I feel like If any of the buttons or wireless was missing it would be an instant deal breaker. That's the thing that logitch if not others have found to be what I would think is the golden formula, 4 buttons 1 scroll wheel and wireless. Wish I was able to try it out though.
Finally someone in the tech channels that can utilize this mouse 😎
I would absolutely fork up the insane price for this thing if not for one crucial detail: the lack of side buttons. I've been using the sidebuttons for voice-chat push to talk for 20 years so the thought of attempting to shift those binds to my keyboard is pretty much out of the question for me.
The viper v2 pro is the mouse that made me play better immediately. Broke my aimlabs personal records on the first day and was just tapping heads on csgo. I love this damn mouse.
Man is beaming, good stuff optimum
When are you gonna try the Cooler Master mm720?? I want to know ur thought on it
glad to see this pop up after discovering the mk1. sad that i cant justify 300 euro for a mouse. plus i've finally found endgame with the mz1 and really wanna try the wireless version with the swappable butt plates.
i feel like mz1 with no bump/butt plate on could give you a similar effect to the zaunkoenig
Would i be able to swap a paracord cable with the stock, or would it mess with the 1k to 8k polling rate?
Would love to see you review the Pulsar Xlite V2 / mini wireless
What dpi and sens do you use in-game?
and would you recommend the g305?
this channel seriously has the best pc content on youtube. we must protect this man at all costs.
Judging from his aiming improvement, no protection needed......😁
indeed man he truly has the best PC content on youtube.
are u using a heaphone or iems rn for gaming? and what exactly are u using? im not sure if i should go for the aries or maybe a better iems for gaming or just buy the dt 900 pro x headset. i kinda wanna try out an iem but yea not sure what i should get
Hey Ali, is that HTS on the lowest debounce? Thanks
you haven't tried the roccat kone pro have you? It's switches are one of the lightest for me. I really like them. It's hard to switch back to kailh switches and heavy switches.
Didn’t except that at all good to know i was planning on getting g502 wireless not sure what to get now
hi chief, what sens are u using in apex and dpi? cheers
I guess I bought most of the mice in the market even custom ones, I didn't think of the M2K because it's wired and has no side buttons, but after watching this review I’m going to order one
Imagine paying more for less mouse.
Is it possible to have a website where we can see the input lag of all these mice you've tested?
If anyone interested in this mouse but the price is too steep, check out the Hati HSK which comes in at 37.1 grams. It's around 90$ or so on Amazon. Still a bit pricey but not bad.
What is the software you are using to practice aiming ??
Now are you getting a model o pro to test when it's out?
Happy to get another perspective for the buyer, thanks!
Ouh Wow He actually made the mouse review on the mouse he bought on a whim on the rating setup video. Such a chad for being so true to his word.
When will there be a review of FormD T1 V2?
Would definitely get a wireless version of this
For those wondering, the Zaunkönig ("fence king") aka eurasian wren is one of the smallest birds here in Germany and a rather feisty one at that
Wusste ich nichtmal als Deutscher 😅
@@timo8604 schlechte allgemeinbildung
@@Keckegenkai Vogelkunde ist jz nicht mein Fachgebiet, korrekt
@@Keckegenkai stänker mal nicht
Can you review the new G-wolves hsk plus wireless? especially the latency. non of the other reviews test that.
Would love for you to try Gwolves new HSK+
If they ever make a sub $150 model with similar weight, I'd absolutely consider this
Listening to a tech review while watching the tech reviewer tapping heads with the product is oddly satisfying.
what do you think the "Zaunkoenig M2S" and "Zaunkoenig M3K" will be? Maybe finally side buttons & wireless?
Optimum, could you test the G502 (the new x version and the old one) against all this "new" mice? thaaaaaaaaanks
Any chance of making input and sensor latency table publicly available?
Random question: what hoodie are you wearing in the video?
can u test the ali express helios xd3 pls, i want to know where it would sit on your list and the specs lists
Optimum I’m begging you to see this not to be annoying anything but you’re One of the only reviewer‘s that I actually trust because of the connection I have with the stats you tell and your description of the items with your personal experience but anyway what is the number one 1440 P and then the number one 1080 P monitors in terms of competitive categories I don’t know if it matters or not but I play Warzone with a 3090
I'm surprised you didn't put the G-wolves HSK+ (plus) since it have 36 grams and it's wireless and have side buttons.
what's the thing you use for the aiming practise at 1:12?
i don’t think u will reply but what key caps do u have cause i really like the full black keycaps