Debian 10 "Buster" Full Review and My Thoughts

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  • @eznix
    @eznix Před 5 lety +159

    I think you are missing the entire point of Debian Stable. Debian Stable is for long term stability, for a system that does NOT change. Debian Stable is not for those who need newer software, it is for people who value unchanging stability over all else. If you need newer drivers and software, use something else, Debian Stable is not for you. Free software is also the point of Debian. Debian is NOT for your beginner user. As you said, do not recommend Debian for what you call an average user. That is not Debian's fault, that is Debian's strength (unwavering ethics and stability). There are not rough edges. What you are calling issues and rough edges are features that Debian Stable users appreciate. Debian is already great for the intended purpose it serves.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +25

      I have to respectfully disagree. I do agree that Debian Stable is geared toward long-term stability, but stability requiring packages several versions behind is a myth. If Debian Stable doesn't work on current hardware on release day, there's just no excuse for that. I'm not asking for the packages to be bleeding edge, that's what Debian Testing and Unstable are more geared for. But having Debian work with hardware that's current as of the time of its release, that's not too much to ask for.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety +18

      When I feel the need for the latest and the greatest I download the git source and build it in my home directory. Then I run it in place. Being the Universal OS™ Debian is for the beginner as well as the advanced user. All Linux users should run Debian. Other distributions should be lined up against the wall and summarily executed. It is the compassionate thing to do.

    • @MilesBader
      @MilesBader Před 5 lety +6

      @@LearnLinuxTV Desktop users are generally better off using Debian testing or even unstable―both of which are actually quite stable, more stable than Ubuntu in my experience.
      The Debian stable distribution is more something you want on servers and other "high risk" systems.

    • @gorilladev
      @gorilladev Před 5 lety +1

      @@1pcfred AHAHAH

    • @eznix
      @eznix Před 5 lety +17

      @@LearnLinuxTV It certainly is asking too much if the current LTS kernel does not support your latest hardware. That is why I repeat, you do not "get" the point of Debian Stable. The latest hardware is not the priority, being rock solid on a majority of the hardware that can be found in servers is the point. If you want a desktop, look elsewhere (or be happy with the most solid desktop experience out of the box on supported hardware).

  • @rickcontreras59
    @rickcontreras59 Před 3 lety +10

    Debian is the best linux distro when it comes to reliability and stability.

  • @aidanjt
    @aidanjt Před 4 lety +6

    The point of older software isn't just stability, it's also maturity. All those feature and security bugs that come with every shiny new software version are usually fairly well ironed out by the time a new Debian stable lands. The same follows with RHEL (which is actually a version behind Buster on both the kernel & GNOME).

  • @sudipchatterjee
    @sudipchatterjee Před 5 lety +18

    "Buster" is the first Debian version that I've installed on any of my machines. And you know what, it quickly became my default choice! I think, at least on that machine, I'm not going to change distros ever. It is that good! Stability and reliability at its best! I don't mind old packages if they run smoothly on my system.
    Thanks for the nice walkthrough!

    • @PenguinRevolution
      @PenguinRevolution Před 5 lety

      Good for you!

    • @pierredelecto9385
      @pierredelecto9385 Před 4 lety

      It's complete fucking garbage.

    • @thetroubledone2669
      @thetroubledone2669 Před 4 lety +4

      @@pierredelecto9385 Then whats better ? tell me

    • @Neko-kun-dp1hq
      @Neko-kun-dp1hq Před 4 lety +2

      @@thetroubledone2669 I think he's the kind of person who brags about having a bleeding-edge system that breaks every other update.

  • @LeonidBraynerMyshkin
    @LeonidBraynerMyshkin Před 5 lety +9

    Installed wheezy on my work computer 4 years ago and have been dist-upgrading since.

  • @adjusted-bunny
    @adjusted-bunny Před 3 lety +6

    My set-up: Buster, i3 wm, pcmanfs, slim login manager, xterm, chromium. Works like a charm. Superfast and very resource-friendly.

  • @Andy.N-_-
    @Andy.N-_- Před 3 lety

    Great overview , i am v glad you did a bit on the MATE DT thanks

  • @kevindavis3010
    @kevindavis3010 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for all you do, Jay! You've hooked me on Linux!

  • @AnzanHoshinRoshi
    @AnzanHoshinRoshi Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you, Jay. I enjoy Synaptic as well.

  • @kevingary7018
    @kevingary7018 Před 4 lety

    I like your new home office. Is the Sitting Buddha Figurine seen behind you on the table, the same one displayed in your previous videos?

  • @johnlug9655
    @johnlug9655 Před 2 lety

    Jay thanks for that one statement of the live installer setting up sudo and disabling the PW. So, for Laptop as a VM developer local tool, do I lose any other developer tools related to VM, K8s, Docker etc.? Especially when it comes to installing packages (manually). One year noob to Linux; on my third Deb Buster install to lap top. TIA

  • @ChadWilliamson
    @ChadWilliamson Před 5 lety +2

    Love the home studio look and feel.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety

      Thank you! It's going to get some additional improvements soon (lighting, new camera, etc)

  • @rashidm5138
    @rashidm5138 Před 5 lety

    Nice office!! Glad to see this setup

  • @pedroandrade2398
    @pedroandrade2398 Před 3 lety

    29:35 had the same exact problem wih my now 6yo laptop. just managed to install debian this last weeken. Debian 11.
    thanks for the vids. regards.

  • @harrytsang1501
    @harrytsang1501 Před 5 lety +16

    6:29 If you leave the root password blank, it'd setup sudo like how it is on Ubuntu

    • @phylwx
      @phylwx Před 5 lety

      That is whack, makes no sense and I hate to prefer it.

    • @kantraa
      @kantraa Před 3 lety

      It will also lock the root account, preventing you from just logging into root and deleting system files.

  • @kafkaian
    @kafkaian Před 4 lety +1

    Beautifully explained 👏
    I use Debian 10 because my hardware is 3 years old or older and I just want it to work. I was on Linux Mint (Cinnamon) for a few years and very often Cinnamon would become unstable for me as it was recently running it through Debian 10, so I just like the bog standard Debian running Gnome. No trauma, although Cinnamon is my favourite for look, feel and productivity. A shame it's unreliable on my architecture.
    Great work
    Cheers, Ian from Birmingham, England 🇬🇧

  • @rickcontreras59
    @rickcontreras59 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you for you time. Its a nice walk thru

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND Před 5 lety

    I more or less started seriously using Linux using Debian maybe six years ago or so, and am glad I did. I still use it where stability is more of a priority, like on home servers, but now also use other distros like Manjaro. I'm likely more tech savvy than the average PC user, but I'm glad I started with Debian to sort out some of these complications when using it in a more typical desktop/laptop environment. It was great learning how much of it you could "mod" to your own needs, really making it your OS.
    The only hardware functionality I seem to be missing from Linux now is Miracast support, though I haven't looked into it much for a while.

  • @RootsterAnon
    @RootsterAnon Před 2 lety

    Lacuna Coil aaaaaaahhhh you hit me in my feels. Tnx for reminding me! Great video!

  • @PaulMorganRyder
    @PaulMorganRyder Před 5 lety +47

    It will install sudo if you live the root password blank

    • @spaceiswater6539
      @spaceiswater6539 Před 5 lety +4

      Thats great to know thanks Paul

    • @PaulMorganRyder
      @PaulMorganRyder Před 5 lety +7

      And root account is disabled

    • @davidg4512
      @davidg4512 Před 5 lety +15

      Most people don't know this because they don't read the page where it asks you to type in the root password. It specifically says to leave everything blank if you want your regular user account to have sudo privileges (made on the next page during install)

    • @PaulMorganRyder
      @PaulMorganRyder Před 5 lety +5

      @@davidg4512 Exactly :-)

    • @s.chauveau4431
      @s.chauveau4431 Před 5 lety +5

      @@PaulMorganRyder Unless Debian did something very unusual (and impossible on Linux?) , I suspect that what you mean by ' root account is disabled ' is that the root account does not have a password and thus cannot be directly accessed from a login prompt. The root account still exists. The file /etc/password still contains a root user with uid=1 and home=/root.

  • @SarkarMotion
    @SarkarMotion Před 5 lety

    Nicely organized office, please do an office setup tour.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +2

      I'll consider that, probably after I get the audio/video issues worked out.

  • @823Labs
    @823Labs Před 4 lety +5

    The Lacuna Coil t-shirt just gained you a new subscriber.

  • @JairoMorales123
    @JairoMorales123 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm just getting into Linux and I'm glad I found you, you saved me a boatload of headaches. Thanks for the info

  • @12SPASTIC12
    @12SPASTIC12 Před 5 lety

    Just a quick note on LMDE. It isn't really meant to be a distro for 'consumers' in the same way that standard Linux Mint is. It exists to give the Linux Mint team something to work off in case they can't rely on Ubuntu at some point in the future.
    It's also great for people who like some of the Mint utilities (software sources, update manager) but prefer a Debian base to an Ubuntu base, or people who don't want to bother themselves with manually installing proprietary and non-free support which Debian lacks by default.

  • @FedericoPenco
    @FedericoPenco Před 5 lety +2

    I think I will try the Gnome one because of the presence of Wayland by default

  • @Your_Degenerate
    @Your_Degenerate Před 5 lety +3

    I gave it a try with the (non-free) iso. Out of the box lacks support for my graphics tablet which is quite old. In the past I would of dealt with it and figured out what exactly I needed to install but these days I'm fine with extra bloat I don't need just so my main concerns are covered. I can see this being ideal for someone who depends on their system highly. I keep my work on a separate HDD so at most I lose an hour if something major occurs.

    • @PenguinRevolution
      @PenguinRevolution Před 5 lety

      There is a solution for this, try a kernel update. For this on Vanilla Debian I recommend Liquorix which can be found here.liquorix.net/ it usually installs a lot more drivers and could install your graphics tablet as well. There are easy instructions on how to install it as well ;)

  • @AhmedGaber-xr8qh
    @AhmedGaber-xr8qh Před 5 lety +6

    The home office is nice, even better than the studio, but the lighting needs some work.

  • @Tuishimi
    @Tuishimi Před 4 lety

    I noticed the same thing when I was playing with Debian... sudo pre-set up vs not set up in the different installers. I ended up using calamares with boot screen and sudo set up.

  • @abaneyone
    @abaneyone Před 4 lety +2

    Well worth the tinkering! Best distro I've used. Cured me of distro-hopping!

  • @cobberdig
    @cobberdig Před 4 lety

    I've put Deb 10 onto a few computers recently, using the net install. The not graphical installer hasn't changed in very very long time which I find amusing its like installing Ubuntu gutsy in 2007 hehe. Few things I usually do with Debian is add user to sudo group, usually setup autologin, fix synaptic quick filter, setup repos etc nothing too difficult but I been using it for a long time it helps. I'm in two minds ATM wether to roll with xfce or gnome3 either is pretty good and familiar. Then I configure for audio. Def helps to know your way around file system but the support is good. Seems better than it's ever been for music production. I dunno if its the RT, low latency bits coming into main kernel, or the development of alsa, ardour etc or the team packaging the multimedia for Debian but gotten past the glitches of previous years.

  • @Hippieinthewoods
    @Hippieinthewoods Před 5 lety

    I am wondering when Linux Mint Debian Edition based on this version is coming out?

  • @rubisdrake
    @rubisdrake Před 4 lety +1

    I just want to say that Flatpaks, Snaps and other container technologies (like Docker) can change your life if you know how to use them. Basically, just use Debian Stable+Backports with the latest kernel and whatever, and use Flatpak/snapd to install the latest extra software that you need. It's nearly a perfect setup. You can set up a stable system, while the user-base software can be as up to date as you like. I also think keeping Btrfs snapshots and backups is important when using newer software with bugs. That can save hours of hassle, or avoid precious data getting removed!
    Also, I am glad the person in the video mentioned the non-free ISO. I use that all the time. It really helps with installing on all sorts of computers.
    Link here: cdimage.debian.org/images/
    Anyway, Debian Stable can be great. Users just need to know how to make it great. Also, containers. :3

  • @krassiem1206
    @krassiem1206 Před 5 lety +1

    One can run Debian 10 on a decade old laptop and it is reasonably fast. At least it is valid for command line mode, runlevel 3 :) It's great to see that one can install it even starting with a stretch version CD, no need to burn another disk to boot from.

    • @krassiem1206
      @krassiem1206 Před 5 lety

      I started with easier Linux distributions and then switched to Debian. I like the minimal install and command line only, no gnome, KDE or xfce stuff. A Truly quite simple, basic Debian system.

  • @stefhannington2218
    @stefhannington2218 Před 4 lety

    Another great thing is you can actually download full Iso's of the non free versions made available from debians website. These builds tend to be better if you want a specific desktop like cinnamon, mate, kde and so on. I dont really like the net install myself.

  • @tmendoza6
    @tmendoza6 Před 5 lety +2

    I Run Mathematica and mat-lab and i have to watch the hardware at times but still much better then my windows work computer i am forced to use

  • @richardmonroe4208
    @richardmonroe4208 Před 5 lety +4

    Rather than Ubuntu, I chose MX Linux. It is my main drive. Nice presentation - enjoy your reviews.

    • @vladhusnullin1650
      @vladhusnullin1650 Před 5 lety +1

      I like MX linux. In the Login screen it shows a dropdown list with usernames to choose. and password to enter.
      In Debian I have to enter user name manually and password.

  • @phoenixbyrd79
    @phoenixbyrd79 Před 4 lety

    I'm running Debian 10 Buster through Andronix/Termux on my Galaxy Note 9 with the DeX Pad connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Loving the setup so far! I've been using the Note 9 as my main PC for nearly a year now with Linux on DeX, but since they've killed it I've had to move on to Andronix as an alternative.

  • @ivanguerra1260
    @ivanguerra1260 Před 4 lety

    So, Is Linux Mint Debian Edition better option for modern hardware ?

  • @demos113
    @demos113 Před 5 lety +1

    Very informative, many thanks. :-)
    Think i will stick with Pop as i'm mostly gaming.

  • @JR-pk1fr
    @JR-pk1fr Před 5 lety

    I recently installed Debian 10 buster cinnamon, , and like what I see. However, I am having a tough time making a persistent live-boot usb of it. That’s something that’s been a non-issue with Kali Linux. Am I missing something here? Or is there a different Debian iso I should download for that purpose . EDIT. got rid of cinnamon and downloaded the non-free KDE...much better

  • @grumpymonk7704
    @grumpymonk7704 Před 5 lety +1

    I have been using various Linux distros for the past 5 to 6 year. Currently running MX Linux. I never had this concern before but now it's bothering me that since anyone can come up with a new distribution what are the possibilities of someone adding a backdoor for malicious purpose. This made me wonder if I should stick with Debian and stay away from others. Would like to hear your thoughts on this.

    • @johnpaulingress6012
      @johnpaulingress6012 Před 5 lety

      I'm no pro but from what I understand the code is open for interpretation by anyone who cares, and an open system with a backdoor would hit a brick wall pretty fast.

  • @brentsummers7377
    @brentsummers7377 Před 3 lety

    Having the option of multiple desktop environments is both a strength and a weakness. It must take a lot of time to make sure they all work as intended. On the other hand the Xubuntu team has XFCE to get right.

  • @mag9515
    @mag9515 Před 5 lety +1

    Nice T-shirt from very good music band "Lacuna Coil"

  • @gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548
    @gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 Před 5 lety +1

    I have two laptops. One runs Debian with LXQT and the other runs Ubuntu with LXQT. The ubuntu one exists because I needed secure UEFI boot as it's corporate laptop can't turn it off. I actually prefer the Debian one. To install LXQT on Ubuntu I started with the server edition and added LXQT on top but the network scripts are a pain if there's no network available. Probably this could be fixed but the Debian one "just works" apart from the secure UEFI issue. Maybe once there is an official Lubuntu based on LXQT rather than LXDE then I will switch over but for now I prefer Debian
    The current situation is perfect in my opinion. You want "tested to death" ultra stable and conservative you use Debian. You want upto date laptop/desktop stuff you use Ubuntu. Everyone wins.

  • @halexp
    @halexp Před 4 lety +1

    i wouldnt say debian is not for new users, in fact, it was the only out of like 5 distros i tested that survived my doings when i began using linux ^^

  • @ktheodor3968
    @ktheodor3968 Před 5 lety +1

    Full credit to you. Excellent review & discussion of this distro! Looking forward to your video on installing Debian. Many thanks.

  • @hipwave
    @hipwave Před 5 lety +1

    just as good as usual. Been with Debian since Lenny

  • @olivermeissner5198
    @olivermeissner5198 Před 5 lety +6

    guy, i run debian on my laptops since 10yrs now and never missed a newer version of something. If its too old for you, go and take another distro or feel free to learn how to use configure and make. there are not just "gamers" in this world. there are also people who really like the rock-solid stability of programs that just run and run forever.
    Maybe this program called "microsoft windows" is an option for you. in this program you have lots and lots of games and system-crashes after each update to the newest, not-stable version of a program.

  • @continuum_mid
    @continuum_mid Před 4 lety

    I disagree with Debian Live as an ideal laptop/desktop experience. When I installed Debian from the Live CD, there was a lot of unnecessary localization software installed, and at the same time no print server by default. When I installed it using the net installer, it was a bit more tedious, but only the needed software was installed and the print server task was checked by default.

  • @phil.4688
    @phil.4688 Před 5 lety

    Regarding an "intermediary" repo for Debian,
    As a dev I'm not so sure, because that means moving upstream some work that's currently done downstream eg for MX. And unless you also transfer the funding that goes with it, it's wishful thinking (an ideal world would have most projects moved upstream, but where's the global audience and correlated funding for that? It's fine for Apache / nginx / that kind of big barrel, but definitely not for the myriad Linux distros..)
    On the other hand, you make sense and the goal seems worth it so it's actually something to consider. Could e.g. MX and other Debian forks cooperate or even integrate at a lower level, e.g. some cross-project council that drives the whole Debian ecosystem in a more streamlined approach. It would tremendously raise the profile of the Debian project, and that's saying something.
    Just thinking out loud. I like how you're telling it like it is, no BS, good food for thought in any case since you always motivate your views or opinions.

  • @dhaneshs3618
    @dhaneshs3618 Před 4 lety

    14:30 Any one how to get modern cinnamon taskbar in debian ???

  • @grenvillephillips6998
    @grenvillephillips6998 Před 5 lety

    The question is whether, always having the latest kernel might cause problems running older hardware? I have noticed on bleeding-edge distros, that even sticking with the lts kernel does not guarantee avoiding problems with older hardware.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety

      That does happen, but is very rare.

    • @s.chauveau4431
      @s.chauveau4431 Před 5 lety +1

      Recent kernels usually work fine on older hardware but this is probably not relevant for the choice of the kernel in Debian Stable. Buster is going to be supported until 2024 so it needs a kernel that will be receive security bug fixes for several years. Remember that servers are the main target of Debian Stable.
      On a laptop or a desktop, upgrading a kernel is easy: update, reboot, done!
      Upgrading the kernel of a server can be problematic if it has to run 7/7-24/24. A reboot on a file server can take minutes or even hours and can cost a lot of money. There are also a lot of places where each software upgrade must be tested and approved by a lengthy process. Finally, some very expensive softwares are only certified for a given version of the kernel.
      A bugfix or a security update that does not change the kernel version is often a far better solution than upgrading to a more recent version. Ideally, a kernel should be updated in a few seconds without a reboot by reloading a few kernel modules.

  • @IronDemonDarknight
    @IronDemonDarknight Před 4 lety +2

    lol you unlocked me the rememeber of lacuna coil

  • @firstlast5350
    @firstlast5350 Před 3 lety +1

    Bit of tussle to replace noveau with proprietary nvidia driver.

  • @pixels303at-odysee9
    @pixels303at-odysee9 Před 5 lety

    Managed to install it on my P4 system, and there was a invisible mouse, and slow as heck, I walked away from it and it entered some type of sleep mode which my computer would not recover from and the resolution was not native. Anyways, tryed Peppermint and got it to work, but Steam won't run. Not to mention, half my computers with windows networking are accessible and it won't play my videos. Spent four days troubleshooting and reading up on configurations, and my head hurts. Lots of great tools, but I need a dictionary to use command line which really is the only way to do what you need. Anyways I tried and failed.

  • @mg42sd
    @mg42sd Před 5 lety +1

    Please, get at least one (preferably two) ring light lamps. This setup is great (especially live preview of what You are recording) , just get a decent lighting.

    • @DUANEYAISER
      @DUANEYAISER Před 5 lety

      I was going to say the same thing, the reds are making me sad . . . Many of the his other videos are generally better, so it might've been just this one time. :-)

  • @pamus6242
    @pamus6242 Před 5 lety

    Debian stable is the future.
    Because in the early days before 2 years go, you had to install new kernels and software to get features and speedups along with better battery life.
    With 4cores and 8threads being standard now, performance is no longer an issue anymore. DDR4 also has a huge improvement on performance because with any DDR3 system you needed a dedicated GPU no matter what unless you were ok with APU's.
    Powertop, taskset, tlp take care of power draw of laptops.
    You have to ask yourself what do you get with that new kernel? Probably nothing that you might have a use case for and apps can be upgraded any which way.

  • @EduardoMedinaEdlinks
    @EduardoMedinaEdlinks Před 4 lety

    Well, I know that I'm commenting almost one year latter than the video was published, but today we have Flatpak to have modern applications on a "old" system, so that front isn't a problem today. If you use an AMD GPU, you can use the Flatpak version of Steam from Flathub and get automatically through Flatpak packages a parallel and newer version of Mesa with the old Mesa version provided by Debian, so you can have a good system for gaming without breaking anything.
    IMHO, the problem with Debian Stable is in the support of drivers. I think that the Debian Community needs to update the support of drivers to make Debian Stable friendlier with newer hardware, but today the apps aren't a problem with Flatpak because the most of people doesn't care about the version of the kernel or the desktop environment, the only thing that worries user is to get the latest versions of its common applications.

  • @MannyGraal
    @MannyGraal Před 4 lety

    I know that was posted about an year ago. But I recently installed Linux Mint Debbie. And it's worked really good. I tested out Pop! Os 20.04LTS and Ubuntu 20.04LTS and both of them were giving me this weird graphical color washing idk how to explain. Like For example I would go on the discord application that I downloaded from the web and when I looked at a blue image in discord when I viewed from the top it looked Purple and if i move my head down to the bottom I would see the normal blue image. I was like well Linux Mint dont have 20.04 yet but they did recently release the Debbie version not to long ago so i was like eh i'll install it and has not gotten those color washing issues.
    I did how ever get lines on the video part of the screen when i paused videos in youtube. but it was worst in pop and ubuntu.

  • @markstevens6406
    @markstevens6406 Před 5 lety +1

    I've never understood the importance often placed on having the latest software. Sure, Debian Stable includes older versions of everything, but do the latest app versions bring improvements that are of any real significance? Not in my experience.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +1

      For me, you should be able to have the latest version of a particular app if you want it. The user ultimately decides if a newer package has value that's worth it. But with Debian, you don't have such an option unless you focus on a work-around.

    • @markstevens6406
      @markstevens6406 Před 5 lety

      I see your point. This only confirms something I've long suspected... there is no perfect Linux distro! lol

  • @nevoyu
    @nevoyu Před 3 lety

    I coulda sworn synaptic came pre installed irregardless of DE choice. That said backports, flatpak, snap, and appimage all work fine on Debian Stable

  • @AndyPandy33
    @AndyPandy33 Před 5 lety

    ok so what's the point of Debian than if even up-to-date is outdated and not really more stable than latest software? Can you do Debian testing next?

  • @utsavpoudyal4421
    @utsavpoudyal4421 Před 5 lety +1

    Firefox-ESR is horrible when you are browsing website that uses more than HTML. However, you can install Firefox from Backports that will work fine

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety

      I'm not seeing Firefox in Buster backports.

  • @jk-gn2fu
    @jk-gn2fu Před 4 lety

    Hope my wifi card work on Debian. I purchased TP Link because tgere were multiple reports that TP Link products work on Debian but mine doesn't...

  • @mikebreler9724
    @mikebreler9724 Před 5 lety

    Are there any Photoshop and Lightroom alternatives? I'm aware of GIMP. Thanks

    • @mariozenarju6461
      @mariozenarju6461 Před 5 lety +2

      For Lightroom, the closest thing that's a 1:1 replacement is Darktable. ...Eh? Get it? Lightroom? Darktable? Anyway, yeah, give it a shot

  • @ryandouglas7464
    @ryandouglas7464 Před 5 lety

    Tried Debian 10 with the lxqt desktop as it's a new option using the live image. Horrendous screen tearing which lubuntu seems to avoid. Don't know why.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety

      Screen tearing is usually caused by not syncing to your refresh rate.

  • @vamsi8669
    @vamsi8669 Před 3 lety

    Today I have installed Debian on my PC which has i3 processor and 4gb of RAM with GNOME, disabled all the animations. It's running like a horse, didn't expected that. I think I am going to stick with it.

  • @thenextpoetician6328
    @thenextpoetician6328 Před 5 lety

    I went with KDE. Running Firefox 68. Brother multi-function giving me the same grief as it did in Mint Cinnamon till I solved that by using a different port and re-installing fresh. Haven't solved it in KDE, but it's not priority. I have Pop!_OS for Gnome.
    You might care to adjust white balance for the office lighting. Looking good.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah, the lighting sucks. It will be some time before I get that resolved. I have a work-around right now that will make some of my upcoming videos better, but it won't be good enough still. I will order studio lighting when I can.

    • @thenextpoetician6328
      @thenextpoetician6328 Před 5 lety

      @@LearnLinuxTV It's all good. You're camera should be able to do that no probs. Warm light is easier on the eyes anyway. :)

  • @impermanenthuman8427
    @impermanenthuman8427 Před 5 lety +2

    I downloaded the new buster with ‘non free’ software and firmware included and it still didn’t work with my internal WiFi adapter or another usb WiFi dongle that I bought months ago and is sold as ‘Linux compatible’
    The only distribution that works in every way necessary (stable, no bugs or glitches, panels don’t just delete themselves on me, no screen tearing out of the box, has settings to auto fit a smart tv screen, all hardware works out of the box, works with secure boot enabled, is intuitive enough for a new user to use etc etc) is Ubuntu Gnome 18.04.02 LTS with Gnome tweaks and Dash To Panel
    I don’t like the look or the fact it’s not as ‘snappy’ as say Mate’ but it’s just the only one that works on my few different systems so hats off to the dev team for the decisions they’ve made, I just don’t trust any other Linux distro anymore
    One thing I’ll say about Debian releasing old software is that in my noob opinion most other Linux distros are so buggy and unreliable their mostly still ‘beta’ testing releases even by the time the next ‘LTS’ release comes out, Ubuntu Gnome devs get a lot of criticism but if it wasn’t for them and their decisions I couldn’t stay with Linux, and if I get the skills and experience to move to another distro it will only be because I learned those skills on Ubuntu
    Thanks for your honest vids and unbiased views

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety

      WiFi sucks.

    • @Gavinconaghty
      @Gavinconaghty Před 5 lety +1

      Yes. I notice and appreciate this just works polish of Ubuntu after distro hopping every main bistro. I only wish canonical went with Plasma when they decided to drop Unity.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety

      @@Gavinconaghty quit wishing and start installing. Linux is the OS where you realize your own dreams for yourself. Back in the day when KDE first came out I fell for all of the hype. But I was running Slackware back then and it had not adopted glibc2 yet. Slack only had libc5. So I managed to get a dual C lib configuration going on my system so I could support running KDE. 15 minutes in I realized that KDE was not exactly functional at the time. But I still managed to get it to run. What of it was there to run in version 0.16. Today I eschew all Desktop Environments in Linux. That's not how Linux is supposed to be. Window Manager or bust! Get yourself some FluxBox going on and enjoy the raw power of a lean mean hacking machine!

    • @prajwalgaonkar
      @prajwalgaonkar Před 5 lety

      What WiFi card does your laptop have?

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety

      @@prajwalgaonkar I do not know. I connect it with an Ethernet cable. CAT 5A I think?

  • @rickcontreras59
    @rickcontreras59 Před 4 lety

    Can you print in Debian

  • @neandertalac
    @neandertalac Před 5 lety +2

    I love Debian approach to stability, but I use Ubuntu Mate as daily driver. Why? Because it rarely brakes (never if I don't mess with GUI or whatever) and I have relatively new software. For example, I like to play a game or two when free, nVidia is always at it's newest Linux driver. When I need to work, new LibreOffice needs to be latest because of MS Office, widely used in public institutions. Even Audacity in it's latest version is extremely stable, never been this good in earlier versions. So, Ubuntu is compromise between bleeding edge software and stability (Mate just for work oriented environment). I know the history of their relations (Ubuntu and Debian) and I'm not here to judge, but I wish Debian has a bit newer kernel and software.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety

      Ubuntu MATE is great, I agree.

    • @impermanenthuman8427
      @impermanenthuman8427 Před 5 lety

      neandertalac Ubuntu Mate has been glitchy and ‘broken’ on me every time I’ve tried it and on 3 different computers, it’s my preferred distro but Ubuntu Gnome 18.04.02 is the only distro I’ve found that ‘just works’ well on my hardware
      I think if someone installs most distros on a lenovo Thinkpad or ‘work station’ line desktop PCs like HP and Dell etc almost all distros might run fine as they design systems with Linux as a potential use, but for Ubuntu Gnome to work smoothly on every system I’ve got when nothing else has is outstanding
      But in future I’ll pick systems that are known for being ‘Linux compatible’

  • @brunonascimento1133
    @brunonascimento1133 Před 5 lety

    kde plasma is cool, but dolphin dont open in root mode, and a simple tasks like a copy move and delete itens on pendrive need a lot commands in terminal. this kill any modern experience in normal user...

  • @tutututu81
    @tutututu81 Před 5 lety

    Synaptic does not work on Gnome under wayland session.

    • @cobberdig
      @cobberdig Před 4 lety

      You need to run gnome with xorg which is selected at login then synaptic will work.

  • @ezequielortiz4188
    @ezequielortiz4188 Před 5 lety

    I had never used Graphic or "GUI" installer for installing Debian, I always use the Text (Non-GUI) installer, I like "GUI" better than the Terminal, but for some reason I find the Text installer easier to use than the Graphic one.

    • @krassiem1206
      @krassiem1206 Před 5 lety

      I guess the text installer has more features than the gui installer. Plus, the text installer does not need a mouse device, and it's an advantage when one works on a laptop with limited number of ports :)

  • @ferdinangenius
    @ferdinangenius Před 5 lety +4

    So a three years old computer is "old" and need some extra words of approval?
    Man, I use 10 years old comps at its newest, most of them are 15 years or more old...

    • @Arrozconchopsticks
      @Arrozconchopsticks Před 4 lety

      My main one is about 10 years old. Might try to get more years out of it

    • @cobberdig
      @cobberdig Před 4 lety +1

      Same, my ones are scabbed off ewaste pile at the dump ivy bridge i5s 3rd gen they run buster pretty good.

  • @PenguinRevolution
    @PenguinRevolution Před 5 lety

    I think you need to do a little more study on Debian, because you create some misconceptions that some issues cannot be fixed which is untrue. As far as the hardware stack is concerned this is maintained by the kernel, 4.19 is the LTS kernel and there is a reason why Debian goes this route. However the hardware stack can be update by a kernel update. This is why the "Liquorix" kernel exists (Liquorix is on kernel 5.2 currently) and it's really easy to update your kernel this way and get the latest drivers. Although I agree they need to make a 5.x LTS kernel and Debian always rolls forward when a new LTS kernel is released. Also software can be easy to update and the easiest solution I've found is to use Flatpak, they are usually on the cutting edge (not bleeding) and they update with a command in the terminal. However some people don't want to update, they learn a specific workflow and new versions can change that so they don't want to update as well, and that's a valid method. Red Hat Enterprise Linux (REL) often is older then Debian for this very reason for stability and productivity. Literally there are easy solutions to the problems you mentioned.
    P.S. there is a solution to the splash screen on the non-free ISOs and it can be found here: wiki.debian.org/plymouth follow those exact instructions and it will work fine (the Debian team is working to fix this as we speak).

  • @davegiroux5282
    @davegiroux5282 Před 5 lety

    i like the fact that Debian loads to ram with no cach

  • @Luuucaa
    @Luuucaa Před 5 lety

    Plasma looks nice :)

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden Před 5 lety +1

    I'm sorry, but for a terminal it is either Yakuake (KDE) or Guake (Gnome or GTK+)

  • @gerald4674
    @gerald4674 Před 5 lety

    Very good review of Debian. Notice you have a Brother printer. The issue I notice is not distro specific as far as I know but Cups. My wife found it. I don't print much except docs or spreadsheats. PDF's as well like tax forms. So I never noticed switching from Windows 7 to Linux and trying different distros such as Ubuntu and Manjaro. When she prints coupons or Amazon statements the file is huge after rendering. It takes about 1 to 1.5 minutes to print. Lowering the dpi from 600 to 300 of course speeds this up some. Windows 7 prints in like 5-10 seconds. I have not found a solution for this issue anywhere. Some dialogue on it but no solution. If you have an opportunity to print an email from Amazon I would bet you would see the problem. Regards, Gerald

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +1

      It takes a LONG time for me to print anything. Due to the fact I print so infrequently, I've never bothered to look for a solution. I probably should fix it, but I'm always so busy.

    • @s.chauveau4431
      @s.chauveau4431 Před 5 lety +1

      When cups does not find a good driver, it will often use a generic one. I do not have a Brother printer but, at first glance, most models appear to be relatively well supported on Linux using either open-source drivers or the Brother proprietary drivers. You may want to have a look at www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Brother.

    • @gerald4674
      @gerald4674 Před 5 lety

      @@s.chauveau4431 Ubuntu installed the proper driver. Then I forced it to use the driver from Brother. Same issue either way. Brother had no solution. Its only specific files. None of the ones from Libreoffice, pdf docs, most webpages. But a receipt from a restaurant via email which looks very simple will take a minute to render. I even converted an Amazon statement to pdf and it remained a relatively large size and took a minute to print. From what little is on the internet this is like a decade long issue with no solution. Thanks for the reply.

  • @maltamo
    @maltamo Před 5 lety

    Love your videos AND your t-shirt

  • @rickybarabba7866
    @rickybarabba7866 Před 5 lety +1

    Personally I have had BAD EXPERIENCES with UBUNTU. I have been using Debian since version 8 and now I have been using debian 9 for two years. No single CRASH. Never had a single problem. My machine is an OLD DELL Alienware Alpha ASM100. I use computer for web development (FULL STACK).

    • @PenguinRevolution
      @PenguinRevolution Před 5 lety +1

      Ubuntu is a bad distro in my opinion these days, they do to much weird sh*t to it. Much better to stick with the grand-daddy Debian.

  • @lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365

    Debian users: What is Timeshift? What means backup? How does look crash?
    It includes "Testing" and "Sid" users because you cant even make Sid version crash x)

  • @jamesty1992
    @jamesty1992 Před 3 lety

    I love Debian, the free software movement etc, but the archaic nature of release and distribution really causes issues. It's not enough to drive me away though (for better or worse)

  • @billchatfield3064
    @billchatfield3064 Před 5 lety

    The lack of hardware support and old software are the reasons I don't use Debian. I guess having the latest software is not the point of Debian but I still don't want old software, sooo.....that is why I don't use it. It's apparently built for people who prefer software that is old. That's not me. I guess that is the disconnect. It's designed to solve a problem that I don't have, or for a use case that I don't have a use for. But I'd really say the problem is that Debian is designed to solve a problem that most people don't have. It's just solid base to build other distributions on.

  • @leondennis4659
    @leondennis4659 Před 5 lety +2

    Cinnamon is my favorite desktop,Manjaro Cinnamon is my favorite so far next to Mint.

  • @ShaeStreams
    @ShaeStreams Před 5 lety +1

    Nice shirt m8

  • @tusharg2751
    @tusharg2751 Před 3 lety

    How to remove windows and install Debian? Do you have a video on this

    • @albussd
      @albussd Před 3 lety

      You don't have to explicitly remove Windows before installing any other OS. When you install any Linux distro you will have a step in which you can format your current Windows disk. And for that there are a gazillion guides, articles, and videos.
      Going by your comment, I'd suggest you to invest timenij learning about Linux. Rraf and with a lot. Simultaneously try live distros.

  • @ferrykurnia1955
    @ferrykurnia1955 Před 4 lety

    Great video. I'm having trouble with wifi and you've confirmed it. Mx linux is the way to go. Thanks.

  • @eznix
    @eznix Před 5 lety

    Reinventing the installer? Debian's installer came long before Calamares and is far more capable. Including the Calamares installer on the live images just placates neophytes who can't seem to navigate the Debian installer. The Debian installer is still on the live ISOs, its in the boot menu. :-)
    Also, the Calamares installer had some severe security issues recently that are not mitigated in the Debian version, so using the Calamares installer is really not the way to go, at least on Debian.

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety

      Do you have the CVE number for the vulnerability in Debian's installer? I'd like to follow that. I do understand that Debian's installer came before Calamares, but that's not the point. Having an installer such as Calamares for the Live media specifically was a good idea on Debian's part. It's more user friendly and presents a better experience. For advanced users, the Net installer still exists and is recommended. It's all about context.

  • @MattMcCullough
    @MattMcCullough Před 3 lety

    Will choose Debian everytime

  • @IKnowYouDidnt
    @IKnowYouDidnt Před 4 lety +1

    Its not a "desktop" environment if you can't put anything on the desktop. I can't understand the "developers" rationale. Its really a drop down menu / windowing environment. And, the windowing SUCKS, in that window identification and switching is fairly cumbersome. Who am I to complain but, I've been so disappointed with every successive release, I'm about to start documenting my experiences. Just seems like they're competing with the engineered obsolescence schema that the proprietary market uses. With all the tweaking, nothing gets better, nothing gets fixed. Or, they'll fix this and break that but, the overall product is the same junk you'd get from a company that needs to leave you wanting so they can sell the next release.
    My favorite OS of all time was Windows 3.1.. And I hate the hell out of Microsoft. I'd just like simple and user friendly.. But mostly, I'd like something I could replace Microsoft/ windows with entirely.

  • @georgelionon9050
    @georgelionon9050 Před 5 lety +1

    29:50 The way you word it, it seems you don't quite understand... Ubuntu builds on Debian. Without Debian there would be no Ubuntu. Without Ubuntu, Debian wouldn't care. It's not just "common source", or rather say, Debian repository is the "common source" Ubuntu builds from.
    Most time why Debian won't work is likely some missing non-free firmware as the default setting it's a fully free operating system, while Ubuntu doesn't put so much emphasis on this line and packages nonfree firmware in the default. Debian still works on this things if you give it the non-free firmware.
    Also from my experience, Debian release are way higher quality.. not surprising they test it for a long time. So if you need the newest of the new, yes Debian might not be your choice, if you look for a rock solid choice, it is.

    • @georgelionon9050
      @georgelionon9050 Před 5 lety

      Or in other works, Debian testing is in my experience most times more stable than what Ubuntu calls a release :) (understandable, if you make every 6 months one you are rushing). I had releases where some package on Ubuntu was just broken "yes, well we fix it again for the next one"...

    • @AniMerrill
      @AniMerrill Před 5 lety

      Isn't Ubuntu literally based on Debian Unstable?

  • @EduardKaresli
    @EduardKaresli Před 5 lety +1

    I think Debian is awesome for learning Linux and for running servers, but for desktops I think other distros with better hardware support are better.
    Mint and Zorin work for me on the desktop, but I love Debian for servers.

    • @LtSich
      @LtSich Před 5 lety +1

      I use Debian testing, nvidia-drivers from experimental and the liquorix kernel.... All run fine...
      But Debian is primary for stability (working desktop, server, ...).

  • @jonhalley9495
    @jonhalley9495 Před 3 lety

    successfully booted into debian this week for the first time, tried to like it but brain wasn't having it. Lots of subconscious irritations. This distro is out and out server grade and should lend itself exclusively to that purpose

  • @Gavinconaghty
    @Gavinconaghty Před 5 lety

    You nailed it. I installed Debian stable and it didn't pick up my ethernet or wifi so had to find driver on another computer and install via usb! This is a hurdle most people won't bother jumping. But I now enjoy Sid which surprisingly enough still doesn't run the v5 kernel yet. I find even Sid is more stable than arch. :). Thanks for the vid..

    • @s.chauveau4431
      @s.chauveau4431 Před 5 lety

      Sid provides more recent packages which is nice but its other name is Unstable for good reasons. Any software update in Sid can break your system. This is not an hypothetical situation. If you run Sid, this is eventually going to happen to you. I am not saying that Sid is necessarily a bad choice. Debian Stable, Testing and Unstable are basically the same distribution but with different trade-off between Stability and Bleeding edge software.

  • @drumpf4all
    @drumpf4all Před 5 lety +12

    Desktop = Debian testing, Server = Debian Stsble

    • @jack8407
      @jack8407 Před 5 lety

      hotel? NOT trivago

    • @LearnLinuxTV
      @LearnLinuxTV  Před 5 lety +3

      Testing isn't suitable for desktop, but I know many people use it for that purpose just fine. It's not a supported release for that purpose and experiences breakages at times.

    • @osvaldoramos4006
      @osvaldoramos4006 Před 5 lety +1

      @@LearnLinuxTV 10 years using testing here, no issues. apt- listbugs apt-listchanges and READ before upgrading your system

    • @bojanmatic024
      @bojanmatic024 Před 5 lety

      @@LearnLinuxTV what is Debian Testing for?

    • @s.chauveau4431
      @s.chauveau4431 Před 5 lety +3

      @@bojanmatic024 Debian is managing 3 distributions at once. When a new version of a program or library becomes available it is first packaged in Debian Unstable. When a package in Unstable is found to be good enough, it is moved to Debian Testing. Finally, every 2 or 3 years, the Testing distribution is transformed into Debian Stable. So Unstable contains bleeding edge packages with all the latest bugs, Testing contains packages that are a bit more recent and hopefully with few bugs and Stable contains older packages that should be mostly bug-free.
      Also, each Debian distribution has a code name. Unstable is always named 'sid'. A few days ago, "Buster/Testing" became "Buster/Stable" and a new 'Bullseye/Testing' was created. In 2021 or 2022, it should become 'Bullseye/Stable'.
      See also www.debian.org/releases/ and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history
      PS: There is also an Experimental distribution but that one is not a full distribution. As the name indicates Experimental is used to experiment with packages that are not even good enough to be accepted in Unstable.

  • @lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365

    27:51 only librewolf, no firefox

  • @hb9145
    @hb9145 Před 4 lety

    Stable in Debian means *not changing*, not free from errors. Get a clue.

  • @neilthomas9244
    @neilthomas9244 Před 5 lety +1

    Ex Windows 7 user. Tried this, and several other distros. Gone back each time to Linux Lite 4. Does what I need it to do. Too many options in distros, too many similarities.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před 5 lety +4

      Linux is Linux. I am an ex Windows 95 user. I've been using Linux since 1995. If there was a better distribution than Debian I'd be running it.