Adding an edge border to the GIANT outdoor table
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- čas přidán 8. 10. 2021
- After 5 years this outdoor table needed an upgrade. I made some small changes to the base but the biggest upgrade was the edge border around the table top.
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Thank you Vic. As always lots of information on the process and an excellent result your pashion and knowledge on woodworking really shows
Thanks very much Simon
Nice refresh, those little changes make the table look a lot more modern, aluminium dowels are a great idea !💡
Thanks very much Joe. Yeah those dowels should last a while
Very impressive table and I love the upgrades! Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure Dimitris, glad you liked it
Nice upgrade Vic ! That new edge really adds a new dimension to the table. Cheers Mate !
Thanks mate, really appreciate it
Love the upgrade. I reckon I've watched your original table build videos at least a dozen times, seeing it again was like seeing an old friend.
Thank you very much Tony, glad you liked it
Thanks Vic! I always learn something from you. That is a great way to join thise long pieces together. I like the storage blocks you made for your dowelmax so I think I'll copy. Peace be with you!
Thanks very much Rich. That storage block was just pieced together without any plan whatsoever.
Great upgrades, lots of tip and tricks and a nice new look.
Thanks Peter, my wife really likes it too so thats good
What a great upgrade Vic. Awesome use of the K4, I'd never thought to use it like that as a mobile base before. The chunky looking edge is good an the new feet very clever. 👌
Thanks very much James 👍 When i was getting ready to use the K4, I looked at it and thought i don't need to remove the drill guide block, Ill just use it as is.
Great update Vic!! Ready for a big gathering and party!!!
Thanks Ainslee, it’s been used a couple of times already. Bring on Christmas lunch
Thanks -- Great info, exactly what I was looking for. Never heard of kreig k4 and dowelmax doweling jig.
Glad it was helpful John. The Dowelmax is the best doweling jig out there. i have an affiliate link if you ever want to purchase one dowelmax.com?aff=3
The table says, "Thanks Victor! That refresh makes me feel and look like brand new!" Nicely done!
Ha, great comment Juliet. Thanks very much.
Nice! No need for me to build a table that big. I don't have that many friends! LOL. As always, your patient detailed approach to a project ends in awesome results. Thanks Vic.
Thank you very much Mark. You know they say 'built it and they will come' 😀
Great video looks like a brand new table glad you're out of lock down stay safe . Steve tas.
Thanks very much Steve. It was 'freedom day' today for us 👍
Looks like it was always there, nice one!
Thanks John, i like it much better now
You could have fun sliding a mug of beer down that table like in the old westerns.
Haha, sure could mate. Thanks
Very very nice upgrade thanks for sharing your time and skill 🍺🍺👍👍🇬🇧
No problem Brian, my pleasure 👍
the varnish portion of the video made me think of a Zamboni machine resurfacing an ice rink. 😄
🤣 Thanks for watching Daniel
Love that table.
Thanks very much Luke
very impressive!
indeed that trick makes the table top look very solid and heavy. I would probably try making the edges even thicker.
I also like your paint spray machine. it is intimidating for me to use the big compressor, and move it to the painted large object or transport to the customer's site. I'll look into these electric paint sprayers.
cheers!
Thanks very much mate. The Wagner sprayers are great
Vic, there was a lot of small but detailed work on the table, and it all turned out good. The one at the end with removable/replace-able feet is a great idea 💡
Thanks Suj. Even though i expect the hardwood to last a very long time I thought it was still worth thinking ahead.
Magnificent job, mate, fit for a king. 👍🏽
Excellent refurb, looks robust.👌🏽
Thanks Bill. I really like how it finishes the table off (only took me 5 years 😀)
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Wow, and in record time too! 😆😆😆
Nice job.
Thanks Darren
What about seasonal expansion? I'm sorry if I just missed something. Very beautiful work.
I do have a small amount of wood movement which means that the corners at each end are sometimes misaligned but it doesn’t bother me at all. The movement is about 3mm either side. The end boards run the full width of the table so they are able to move without impacting the the ends of the long trim pieces
Hi Vic. This was another great one. Regarding the water damage on the feet. Last year I had to fix my porch sagging . Taking it apart I saw the posts meeting the concrete floor had slices of roof shingles at the bottom. They were cut to the same size and the post were dry as could be. Barely noticeable. Nhyce.
Thanks Ron. Sounds like whoever did that had a great idea that saved you some work mate
Hi Vic. I’ve made a few tables with a Kreg end board across the grain…..in short it didn’t end too well. I had to make a bread board end joint with screw slots.
I'm pretty confident about the ends Greg. I've noticed no movement of the table over the 5 years thats it been outside and i've made a few tops with unconventional joints and none have suffered any failure. I'll do a follow up video soon about it because i was expecting a few comments. Thanks mate
Nice work. It'll be interesting to see how the ends cope with wood movement over time
Thanks mate. I'm pretty confident about the ends and i plan on doing a followup video soon (probably on IG) because i knew i'd get a few comments about it.
I'd be worried about the lack of ability for that top to expand/ shrink, especially outdoors. More splitting will come later. Pretty table though, lots of cool joinery.
Thanks mate. I'm not worried about movement, I think its overstated particularly for us here in Australia. i've made a few pieces with similar joinery and they are all still going well.
New sub here (came from Jespers pallet table video). Cheers from Christina
Thanks for subbing Christina and welcome
That was an awesome upgrade, now you can without any shame host a huge garden party. Wait, why not upgrade the chairs as well? You have som scrap wood standing around in the corners? 👍👍😍😍 Cheers Vic, it was great to see another video from your shop.
Hey Jesper, thanks very much. As for the chairs I think I'll pass. One is tricky enough, imagine making 12
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Good idea. You've added a nice edge to the outdoor table. Thank you for the detailed information. I wish you a healthy and happy Sunday. See you. Big greetings.
Thanks very much mate
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Very good trays Vic. I love your videos and projects. Do you sell items at markets?
Thanks for the comment and support Terry. No i don't do markets
I’ve always wondered why it’s called a ‘thicknesser’ when it makes things thinner??
Ha, good point mate.
Nice one Vic, the table looks awesome with the changes
Thanks mate, i appreciate it
G’day Victor, this table would seat more than King Arthur’s Roundtable mate 😮 always enjoy your video delivery mate & many more happy times around that family table 🇦🇺🍻👍
Thanks very much mate. Today was 'freedom day' so able to have family and friends over now to fill all the seats 👍
Beautiful improvement! Have you had any issues with wood movement and those trim pieces? I'm looking to do something similar, but was wondering if the trim around the edges would cause a problem.
No, not any issues but I do have a small amount of wood movement which means that the corners at each end are sometimes misaligned but it doesn’t bother me at all. The movement is about 3mm either side. The end boards run the full width of the table so they are able to move without impacting the the ends of the long trim pieces
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It's a very cool and amazing video.
I was touched when I saw this.
I hope you become a warm neighbor.😊
I hope you'll always be full of love and happiness.💖🐾🌸🍒
Thank you very much
Did you make a long cross-grain glue joint on the ends? It looks like you did...
Yes, i used the same method as the sides.
Vic, been enjoying your projects for quite a while now, they’re entertaining, professional and a real joy.
One question, how long have the ends (bread board) been attached? Reason being there is a broad cross grain situation going on, with glue and screws holding things together there is pretty good chance of things splitting, cracking and checking. Assuming you have some humid and dry seasons.
Keep up posting and creating great projects, Thanks!
Hi Robert, thanks for the great feedback. The table is showing no signs of distress or destruction. I've made a few projects now with joints or techniques that, if you listen to popular belief, should have failed but none of them have. Maybe its our climate here but we still get extremes of humidity and dry weather.
Thanks, Vic. Wish I had known about your channel when I lived in Cottesloe (WA), 2009-2011, could have done a road trip, similar to the one I took on the Nullarbor. Boy that was great.
Wood species and how the wood was cut both play big parts in seasonal movement. Plain sawn being the worst, rift sawn and quarter sawn usually exhibit much less seasonal expansion. With your reclaimed lumber you could easily be dealing with nice old quarter sawn wood, that would have the least seasonal expansion. Keep in mind, I’m no expert, still trying to learn something new just about every day. Cheers.
Hi Vic , nice improvement, looks a lot better.
Thanks Philip, appreciate it mate.
Loved the upgrade…. Was there any thoughts of having mitred corners ?
Thanks Mark. i did a similar treatment not long ago on our dining table which had mitres czcams.com/video/aBDL2duwgOQ/video.html. I just wanted to do something different with this one.
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Very well done. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
Thank you very much Glen and same to you mate.
Is this an outdoor table? I can't imagine trimming a solid wood table is going to work out well in the long run with wood shifting.
Yes it is, and there is wood movement. It’s noticeable at the end of the trim pieces at each end of the table. The worst I’ve seen it is about 2-3mm and I’m totally fine with that.
@@DownUnderWoodWorks Yeah, especially with butted ends on the trim, it seems like the edges would look ok. I would still worry that screwing it on the short ends would cause the table top to split over time. There are all kinds of methods people have developed to attach breadboards to the ends of solid tables that should work the same for trim. Your table looks really nice though!
Once again you’ve repurposed an older piece of furniture to keep up with modern trends, and saved a few trees in the process. 🇬🇧🇦🇺😀
Thanks very much Jonny
This table is illegal under lockdown rules champ, calling the cops now 😋
Haha, maybe for you guys but we had 'freedom day' yesterday
Hey Vic, nice job on the upgrade. Much better than putting it out on hard rubbish and starting again. You have used the DowellMax a few times, what makes it so good?
Thanks
Thanks very much George. The build quality and accuracy of the jig make it a great tool and as you can see at 3:15, it works every time.
Damn the sun, wind and rain. All it does is ruin good furniture. But with a bit of tender love and care, and a hell of a lot of work, it looks a million bucks again. 👍
Thanks very much mate. Its actually in pretty good shape considering its been in an outdoor (although covered) setting for over 5 years.
I apologise the fault was my end again I am sorry.
No worries mate, thanks for watching
dude. you can't do that. You bonded a lengthwise grain with end grain. there's over 1/4 inch of movement on each side of the edge. it could start ripping itself apart on both left and right edge. In the future, you need to NOT glue the edges, instead use a dovetail slot all the way down the edge. and you shouldn't screw all the boards on the bottom to a support runner like that. same reason. the wood movement will make EVERY board cup on the top. or maybe you get lucky and have your screw holes rip a slot and they move a little bit and you think it's ok
Dude, yes I can and I did. Yeah ,you would think that after 25 years of woodworking I would know how to join wood together. BTW, the table lives outside and it’s still in one piece doing quite well. Thanks for your concern 👍🏼
As usual great video, but please do not wear gloves while operating your machinery. One slip and the gloves will pull you in.
Thanks for the concern Col. I'm fully aware of the risks with gloves. I only rarely wear them when handling rough old timber. Cheers mate