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CLIP from Episode 595 - Ordinary Fucking People (1/20/22)
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You get the feeling that many people see the office of the Presidency the same way the Ancient Egyptians saw their Pharaoh, as the Chief Priest whose main prerogative is appeasing the gods, and the only way anyone can feel that he's "doing it right" is whether or not the crops are plentiful
Great observation! Obviously the gods are the immortal corporations given personhood creating deity incarnate.
"cops are plentiful"
@@Stroporez pantheism!
Some guy literally wrote a book about this exact thing lol
@@QUAKERSATTACKS97 got an ISBN chief?
The fetishization of "moderation" and "compromise" is so absurd. They're independents, but still completely establishment brained.
For the most part I don't think they're ideologically committed moderates, it's just the smart word they know for someone whose a swing voter. It'd take nothing to make them support a national health service and/or public executions for shoplifters.
You're witnessing the mind palace of the apolitical normie - their metric for whether the president is a wise moderate or a bad radical is whether or not they get a vibe that things are generally ok. If things are generally ok the president is doing his job and looking after the economy; if you hear about bad things in the news or gas prices go up it means the president is stoking division and playing politics instead of working.
So it's basically impossible for any president to not let these people down as living conditions continue their decline for decades now; and even if every single American benefited completely from a new administration, they'd still be 'let down' because they can't escape hearing about bad things from the press / social media. They remember when they could ignore politics so things have got worse.
they just wanna grill, for God's sake!
The manufactured consent of centralism is a resounding success. A scared and desperate Middle class, will Never dare to dream of a different system.
Just desperately cling on to something familiar and utterly broken.
Complaining that crime is out of control and the police are being defunded and then later complaining about media sensationalism is peak America brain
It actually is logical, it just implies the sensationalism is working.
It’s the Simpsons focus group scene
Average independent voter behavior
Media sensationalism is blinding people to the true issue of the mole children
My favorite SNL sketch to this day is the Undecided Voter ad. Perfect parody of these people. Simultaneously uninformed, entitled, and insufferably smug.
“All these roustabouts, freebooters and sea rats preventing my molasses from coming in from the colonies. We need a firm hand to hang a few and get a stranglehold on the ports.” - an independent
Don't forget all the mugwumps who prattle on about bimetallism!
“Victoria votes twice.”
Here we see consultant Frank Luntz performing quality control for the propaganda industry. The tested group indicates a nearly flawless process. None of them have a clue what they think or why they think it. But it's not a genuinely random sampling. So really he's scamming the producers, but it makes them happy.
7:37 I definitely think there’s a truth to this. When my Grandma was in her 80s she would watch the news and comment on how violent the world was getting. Along with telling me stories from the 1930s and 40s about dealing with stalkers that would try to flash her, the klan burning crosses in people’s yards and trying to lynch their neighbor, and families having feuds where they would shoot at each other.
Yay, Chris is getting is 100k plaque!!!
Finally
Shadow ban lifted
"I'm kept up at night by concerns over housing, getting sick...and having my bike stolen (?)"
Sounds like we need to allocate an extra trillion dollars to the military.
Congratulations on having the shadow ban lifted. To the moon.
Financial analysts are not "normal people". When did you ever meet a financial analyst? There are no working class people in this "focus group". Also no one under the age of 30.
Infuriating bias.
WILL: WHAT ARE WATERFALL PAYMENTS?
MATT : YOU DONT GO CHASING THEM, IS ALL I KNOW.
MATTS WIT IS TOO QUICK
George carlin was right about everything, we are barely even smart enough to keep the machines running.
No left voice in the article because the dude in the Bernie shirt hung himself with his belt 5 minutes into the questions
30:11 “start regulating the ports” fucking amazing
Those Sobotkas are a real problem
And notice the language used by these people. "Skyrocket" is a verb. They're sports fans whose favorite sport is politics.
Start regulating the ports! All ports should be of God of War or Horizon Zero Dawn quality.
Nice
I am older. It's not so much that we think that this is the worst time because we're about to die. It's more about being about to die and thinking that the world is going to go with you. I really agree with what you said about us being treated like consumers are entire lives and politicians treating us like them.
Happy 100k subs Chapo, and by the way, I am also gay.
Gay actor Michael Douglas?
I feel like for these voters "another option" in politics is like Howard Schultz runs on a platform of "Making the stockmarket go up"
oh shit grats on 100k finally. chase that next plaque brotherrr
possibly the greatest reading series in the entire history of the show, like holy fuck i was at work when i first listened to this episode and could not stop laughing out loud during this segment
also the eric adams part like right after was fuckin great too lmao
Frank Luntz is highly effective at his job. He told Frontline he left the GOP but his polling and research is universal
You have a gift to make comedy from the most depressing shit I've ever heard.
100k plaque day bby!
Awwweeeee shiiiiiiiiiit
Shadow ban is lifted boiz. There go the neighborhood.
congrats on 100k chris
"Shut the ol' brain down" is a common subliminal message in advertising.
Congrats on reaching 100k!
congrats on the plaque, Chris!
congrats on 100k chris !!!!! finally gonna get that silver play button !!
“I will believe the “Police Mafia” when they tell me, “No protection money, no protection.” “
Chris, celebrate the plaque by flossing.
32:00 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the hanging chads thing right? From the 2000 election
Yeah. I assumed the dry boys were operating on the assumption that everyone got that. But maybe I was wrong or maybe they were wrong
@@CODMarioWarfare they sounded like they thought it was a reference to the chad meme thing though. But idk.
@@JB-kn2zh Will said “i would like to think he is talking about the chad meme”
@@JJ44595 i guess he says “I’d like that he’s talking about the meme” or something. He definitely doesn’t say “I’d like to think” but you’re right I think he just omitted the words “to think” by accident and that’s why I was confused. It sounded like “I like that he’s talking about the meme.” The time stamp is actually 31:40.
Congratulations on the 100k subs Chapos I just bought your book on Amazon prime and I didn't feel bad about it
Easier for them to get their CIA allotment if you buy through Amazon.
@@justcommenting4981 CIA? More like CIGay amirite fellas?
Calling for a Constitutional convention at the state level is not an impossibility, for the implementation of an Amendment for the Separation of Wealth and State; difficult, unlikely, a massive fight, but not impossible.
phantom vibe is a great term
The last thing that was said is the most absolute truth in this whole discussion
Except for the ports thing. Absolutely shameful that Brandon REFUSES to regulate our great American ports
God dayum some people are so ignorant
Christine for President
pledging my katana to shogun christine
Honestly, I would watch a Big Brother/Terrace House-type show about these people
"Phantom Vibe"
"The Luntz." LOL!
these people shouldn't be allowed to vote
12:35 "You need to come up with another solution if you want to defund something." alright, so she either hasn't listened to people who advocate for defund at all or she's one of these people who thinks social welfare is off the table. She voted for Romney b/c she knew he wanted to get rid of Medicaid.
hell yeah, so true
Tenee just finished watching season 2 of The Wire
Frank “Lumpy” Luntz.
The bye bye MAN
What is the movie for the poster that is hanging right above the military jack over on the right hand side of the screen?
"Patriot?"
@@polemius01
That's what I thought but I can't find a poster for it on line. Unless it's the one with Segal. I was thinking the one with Mel Gibson.
@@meamishere1166 Me too with the Gibson possibility.
I am an old.
Oh shit bruh, you got yr 100k!
oh shit i didn't even notice that !! fuck yeah
Is wills audio weird or are my headphones broken?
no it's weird for me too lol
Sounds fine to me.
The popping? I assumed it was because I dropped my phone.
100grand honey
damn, what is causing that phase cancel? its a bad gate or something? Mic control, people!!!
I'm an independent because I don't support the GOP at all, and the democrats can't rely on me to vote for them.
which, in the words of Noam chomsky, "you are effectively a republican". Because if we don't not-vote in Republicans, we cede control to them. So effectively, you are a Republican most of the time and cause the democratic party to simply shift more and more rightward with each eelction.
@@aw2031zap "...if we don't not-vote in republicans..."
"...if we (do) vote in republicans..."
But I don't vote republican.
Damn dude, tell us more
@@ChewyThomson more
@@aw2031zap Naom Chomsky has dementia, and he has turned into a neoliberal corporate tool. Nothing he has to say is useful anymore. He recently said that people who chose not to be vaccinated should be put in concentration camps and not fed. If you believe in that then you are not a republican, you are a nazi.
Is that plaque on your teeth or in your arteries?
on the wall.
Dismissing someone's world view because of their age is . . . ageism.
I'm 68, and I don't remember a time when the country was in such bad shape. As a perfectly-healthy, Marxist, full-time worker (college professor), my opinion is not age-based, but observation-based.
no one dismissed anyone's opinion because of their age, matt just pointed out that older people do tend to think things are worse because of their age.
age is a fact and it shouldn't be ignored. you're happy to draw on the authority that comes with experience, but if someone says your experience of old age colors your experience of everything else you get all bothered. you can't have it all. every advantage has its disadvantage.
@@minamur Perhaps the term "dismissed" has thrown you. It was a clear dismissal.
The point that the country has never been in worse shape than it is now is a factual statement. Although we have been sliding down that way for decades, we are in a new low.
@@polemius01 no, they didn't even really disagree, matt just said older people are prone to that regardless. it's no different than saying a young adult tends to be over ambitious. that wouldn't be dismissing their point of view.
@@minamur The entire premise is wrong concerning older people; it's a version of the "okay boomer" trope. I am not in my present frame of mind because I might be 20 years away from my death, and Matt is 50 years away from it.
Matt's attribution of the woman's comment to proximity of death came across as a clear dismissal.
The comparison to a putative trope about over-ambitious young adults does not fit. Ambition is not considered a bad thing, while the position that older people think the country is in bad shape because of end-of-life despair.
And, as a college professor, I would LOVE to see more over-ambitious young adults than I do. Many of them are as depressed by the state of US society as I am.
@@polemius01 There was literally a time when the country was at war with each other. Thats probably the worst shape the country has been in.
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I'm a registered Independent who is leftist who will always vote for the most progressive candidates possible, and it sucks that the "lesser of two evils" standard is the way it has to be in America... But I can't buy in to the attitude of some of these leftists that you should just abstain from voting or "protest" by not voting, we have the system we have at this moment and to say that it's more justified to vote for nobody and indirectly give better odds to Trump or the complicit GOP than to vote for a milquetoast Democrat is stupid. Yes, most Democrats are at best moderate establishment puppets, but to say that there is essentially no difference between someone like Trump who drafted an executive order to seize all voting machines and planned to deploy military forces on US soil, and a boring, self-interested Dem politician is actually a dangerous idea. Hopefully one day the Dems will ACTUALLY be progressives, but for now it's inexcusable to not do the small things we can to keep the GOP in the minority.
As a self described Kid, you are naive to think this system isn't functionally unilateral. There is one federal government with two coats of paint. They're all neoconservative with nearly identical game plans and you're conditioned to vote for the one that doesn't get forcibly smeared in your living room. Unfortunately humans who are against the expansion of federal powers will rarely be incorrigibly consistent to the point of becoming the federal government, but you've no chance of halting or receding oppression by voting blue. From where do you think the precedent came for such drastic executive orders? Biden's White House with Obama.
"someone like Trump who drafted an executive order to seize all voting machines and planned to deploy military forces on US soil"
yeah you know shit that didn't happen and is literally you being hysterical
@@TheJacklikesvideos kid amnesiac is a Radiohead project. Don't be condescending
abstaining from voting in a swing state (or in your local elections) is not going to shift the democratic party leftward, it does the opposite. when the right win, the democrats simply say "Oh, we weren't right wing enough to appeal to voters". and then they become more right wing.
@W Shiflet It’s called labour organizing dawg
“It’s reactionary to care about the inflation/gas prices and you’re a Republican if you do”
-The Chapo Economists.
it's called being responsible. gas prices too high? stop driving. otherwise you're just whining, which is, in fact, extremely reactionary.
@@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816 How should people get to the jobs they have currently if they can’t drive? Also, how much is your monthly gas budget?
@@Hunter_Brandon The reactionary aspect is that the folks who won’t shut the fuck up about inflation seemingly never cared about inflation for stuff like childcare, healthcare, or education or rent but not that inflation is hurting their treats and their gas NOW inflation is an issue and their solution is going to be more austerity bullshit that won’t affect folks in this focus group in any meaningful way and hurt the people who have faced actual inflation for four decades
Yep that's the take away, great job 👍👍👍
@@schizoproductions5612 What was the appropriate takeaway Mr. Productions?
"Claiming that you're an independent just basically means that you're a Republican."
Because anyone who doesn't 100% agree with me on everything is The Enemy.
As per _The Critic_, "Yes Mr. Sherman, they all suck."
goteem
Found the independent
i hope matt recovers soon, but if i’m being honest i really do not miss his disingenuous spin on every topic and the same tired pop culture references.
Are Will and Felix any better in that regard? They fell for a fake article about Ice T the other week lol
Matt is hilarious and you're wrong and boring
that's pretty much always been Chapo's brand, it gets a little stale at times
Matt's probably the most passionate and well-read host on the show