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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 07. 2024
- This time, Terrence Howard smashes into a reality check on the Joe Rogan podcast.
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To the people in the chat who see Terence as an underdog:
Do you seriously think that Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan, Kyle, and countless other people would have spent any amount of time talking about Terence's treatise if one of you had written it and put it on your blog? Do you think they'd _ever_ give _us_ the time of day, would _ever_ waste time carefully dissecting our insane theories?
The _only_ reason the spotlight is on Terence is that he is a) rich and b) already famous. He. Is not. An underdog. He's a privileged celebrity-he's just not privileged enough for the whole world to pretend reality is wrong and he is right.
I think people all just feel badly for him because he has a micro penis
What are you talking about...what is the privilege you speak of?
â@@jasonbeck1340 Joe Rogan has similar interests to Terrence ie Anti establishmentarianism
whatever the case about Howard, I think Thor would be a lot better of a communicator especially since itâs self proclaimed, if he took the ego down a bit. He seems competent he really should i usually switch off when i hear the first comment about his hair or anything like that. Or when he makes fun of people, thatâs not productive, and it makes people like me that are here for science and not his personality tune out.
â@@jasonbeck1340 - I mentioned it in the comment: wealth and fame. Two things that get him attention and preferential treatment.
Dude found boolean cut in Blender and said "WHAT?! No one's made a religion out of this yet?"
get laid nerd.
^ 100% exactly this.
then, just keep sticking them together like legos and claiming they explain everything. when terrence says he has a model for something, he means he 3d printed something at home.
Glad to see fellow Blender-men gathered here! And welcome Terrance - the newbie of the software. Be gentle with him, he's still learning the tool.
I saw the same stuff a decade ago in Cinema 4D. Booleans are mad fun to play with. The mind boggles with what other misconceptions could arise in the future by playing around in 3D applications
I don't buy his whole "1x1 is a metaphor" shit. He's just saying that because so many people have called out how ridiculous it is and he's obviously getting embarrassed. I unfortunately watched a little bit of that Oxford presentation. The students were challenging him on the 1x1 and he was arguing for it. Literally. Not metaphorically. Does Terrance understand that physics is about math? Can he even do the math? "Conversational" youtube physics is not real physics. Same thing with engineering. It's all math. That's the language you have to learn and use if you want to be taken seriously, not buzzwords(not to mention he doesn't even get those right) If he wants to be relevant and contribute something to science he needs to do the work and go back to school. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm serious. If he's this interested in it, then he should really commit to it. The hardest part, for him it seems, would be learning humility.
EDIT: after watching the video for 2 more minutes, Kyle just said the exact same thing I said about language. I'm glad to know we're on the same page lol
Yea he was backtracking
@@Dannyv92 Exactly. Keep it real bro!
It's definitely not a metaphor. He tried breaking it down mathematically when he first said it. Lol
Considering that the mathematical proof that 1+1=2 is 379 pages, I think what Terrence needs to do is write out the proof that 1x1=2. That's the only way people will actually believe his shit
That backtracking proves that Howard knows deep down this is a narcissistic attention grab instead of genuinely getting new info out there.
I saw this as Eric trying to give him kindness he himself may not have gotten from academia while still correcting him
Thats exactly what happened. And Eric is humble enough to want to encourage the things that Terrance got right.
Eric was an utter jerk.. stop it
â@@_v2861 so if you don't agree with me you are a jerk... Waah waah
People are so soft. If you're wrong you're wrong. I used to take up to 7 practice tests every other day in pre med, and I'd constantly fail forward until all the information was burned into my head. And passing tests was 1/5 of the battle. You also needed to thoroughly understand the information as well as other things. And you're never going to be at a point where you know everything. All school can do for you is help you read and digest the information easier, because you still need to refresh your memory when you're on the job.
@@_v2861 He spent hours trying to one, figure out what Howard was trying to say and giving him space to clarify his positions and two, trying to explain where his ideas needed further thought as well as how he might better present them.
I do not see how he could have been less of a jerk, unless you think the appropriate course of action was to clap for Terrence no matter what, like heâs a volatile fucking child.
Egomania is one hell of a drugâŠ. The fact that weâre taking time debating a narcissist is mind boggling in itself
i dont think he is a narcissist, i think he has symptoms of psychosis and mania. ive talked to a few people with diagnosed schizophrenia that talk a lot like him. they were generally good people (terrance i have no idea about), but thought they had "figured everything out". im not gonna try to diagnose the man, but he is behaving similarly, has paranoia, and the like.
@@Buildingskynet eat me dude. what am i gonna do, do a whole study for a youtube comment section before i post some random bullshit? ive seen this exact behavior in multiple people, they all had disorders that give them mania/psychosis, and he is behaving like them. you got something better? no? then why are you acting like you know better than me?
Hell , we elected one president. But then again which one of our presidents wasn't?
Let's be honest, a large portion of academia and scientists are narcissists as well. They definitely have a 'God' complex.
It's not mind boggling, a healthy debate is necessary to stop misinformation and it gets people more involved in education and critical thinking.
Why is your chat so toxic? My lord. Much love my long mane brother
Any forum that reaches a large enough user base, will tend toward the lowest common denominator.
Add to that, toxic people are loud, and tend to get pushback, making them even more visible.
Without proper moderation, any medium becomes a cesspool.
@@VikingTeddy very true. I just feel itâs so unwarranted. Either way, better people come out in the end
It is honestly annoying with how people think their toxicity was contributing to any conversation. it was only a distraction from the points being made, and for what? To stand as equals in the annals with Terrance Howards acuity? How grave.
Maybe because it's funny?
He mentioned there were a lot of newbies, it's possible they're just die hard fans of any or all of the three dudes on the Rogan show who came to be mad at all costs. Lotta that going around, it's a bummer really. Closed minds :(
1 x 1 means one thing, one time, Terrence.
This is the best explanation of this and idk why itâs not just how itâs explained to begin with. Thank you :)
He knows that, he's just challenging the identity property of multiplication by arguing that multiplication is basically addition which is false because multiplication has unique properties that are more complex, he's not a dumb guy he's just a little crazy.
I think of it as one group of one thing.
â@@heatherr4321 I think the guest was probably too advanced to explain things to a child. Terrance seems to be more concerned with the linguistics and has trouble conceptualizing things in a practical way. I assume that he knows what a grocery store is unless his maid or instacart does the shopping for him. But I'd just tell Terrence that Multiplicaiton is tool used to measure the relationship between groups. And that a grocery bag is something that can group an item. So if he had 2 grocery bags with 4 apples each would give you 8 apples, or 2 times 4 equals 8. And 1 orange in another grocery bag would give you 1 orange, or 1 times 1 equals 1. And if Timmy takes the orange out of the one bag without letting you know, and you check the bag to see that it's missing, the mathematical representation of that is 0 oranges. But if you must use multiplication to measure the relationship between the bag and the orange then it would be 1x0=0. So 1 times zero equals zero isn't saying that the orange disappeared into oblivion, it's just telling you that the specific item you're trying to measure or observe isn't part of the equation or the device (grocery bag) used to group the item.
â@@heatherr4321...that is how it's explained. You first learn it with physical objects.
If everyone had a megaphone then everything would just be noise.
Everyone does have a megaphone. No individual has the right to lord over another individual
Everyone should be permitted to speak no matter what.
@@tajwilliams6186 these 2 sentences are incongruent
@@mrosskne But not everyone should be listened to
Just imagining this comment being said through a megaphone.
Terrence isn't taken seriously because he hasn't read the books and done the work the professionals have. If he had, he see all of the ways he was incorrect. That's the rub. I personally DO NOT think he' should get ANY credit. He's wrong, pure and simple. Crack a book, do the work if you wanna be taken seriously.
He put himself out there.
He received a viral response because of his celebrity and wealth... but he still put himself out there.
Most people aren't willing to be vulnerable like that in ANY forum, let alone a platform of millions...
(But most people aren't movie star celebrities, so there's that)
Dude went into the peer review process and got constructive criticism and he went and lied about the type of criticism he received. Heâs a little whiny bitch. He needs help.
â@@drebk Seems a bit like attention seeking imo but maybe it's not just that.
@@wè±b Recall, he provided his treatise to Neil 8 years ago.
This recent "attention" isn't about a lazy, half-baked idea he had while ripped the night before and just happened to jot down.
He truly believes he has stumbled onto something major (he hadn't, though).
So yes, he is attention seeking... he had a very grandiose, superiority complex. Sprinkled with messiah issues.
Because the "professionals" have done the world so well up to this point. No. The professionals are a bunch of insecure bullies. You can see it in every industry. "Science advances one funeral at a time" is a real saying and a fundemental truth of our existence. Let's stop pretending that the professionals are gods please
Dewey Decimal System is not synonymous with the Decimal System. One is used in Libraries, the other is used in Mathematics.
Hard not to tune out once he says that.
To be fair, my books are sorted in hexadecimal. And bananas taste like octal to me.
Kyle is proof no matter how good you are toxic people will always try and root themselves in your life much love hope your chat gets better
Or his chats are a reflection of himself.
Hey guess what, the world is toxic. Welcome to life. Why dont you put your big boy pants on and deal with it instead of bitching about it in the chat. lol "Toxic"......what a vaginal word
â@@swale5oG Kyle went out of his way to avoid being toxic and commenting on things that are not on the video. I've seen a lot of his videos and I don't think he deserves these comments. Public chats will always have toxic elements, no matter what.
@@swale5oG lol if u watch his videos, u would realise how wrong your comment is.
This is why everyone doesnt deserve a mega phone bc a lot of ppl open their mouths without any thought process...
âNot everyone deserves a megaphone.â
I fucking love that so much.
Someone in the other Terence stream said âeveryone deserves freedom of speech but not everyone deserves freedom of reachâ
The system where we let the people decide who gets a megaphone by grassroots is better than any system that has ever been tried where we decide a priori who "deserves" a megaphone or what type of speech "deserves" a megaphone. For example Kyle here uses making bombs, but I vehemently disagree with that. making one is just basic chemistry, and I strongly believe the world would be a much better place if everyone was educated to know basic chemistry.
â@@Alex.HollandA better example might be people who advocate for the use of bombs as a political instrument
@@Ktmfan450 knowledge and speech are protected, actions and violence aren't. While there is grey areas, its not rocket science
The megaphone of science should be reserved to the people that have survived the gauntlet of peer reviews.
"I'm just asking questions" is like nails on a chalkboard to me. For starters, no, you're not. You're making an argument and phrasing it as a question to try and shield it. And, we know this because of that "just." Asking questions is great. JUST asking questions is not. What makes asking questions great is trying to find or come up with an answer to those questions, which is not something people who just ask questions (and usually imply the fact that they, and maybe the people they pose them to, don't know the answer means there is none) are doing.
Just. Asking. Questions.
JAQ'ing off.
Terence Howard thinks he's Max Planck arguing with Einstein, but in reality he's just a plank.
"Plank...Maximum Plank..." đ
Thank you for this Kyle. I found your channel when you covered Terrenceâs first appearance on JRE. So I thought of you as I watched his second appearance with Eric. You and Eric are a refreshing breath of fresh air for blocking out the distractions and focusing the conversation on pertinent facts. No armchair psychiatry, politics, conspiracy or personal business. Simply discussing the ideas and evaluating the merits or flaws. This is the most respectful and productive method. Save all the distractions for another space otherwise the conversation unravels into insults.
Well put!
You should definitely check out more of Kyle's content, particularly his videos on nuclear energy. A lot of VERY high quality content.
Thanks, I will
Bomb making instructions are free speech, bomb construction is not.
The whole thing felt like 2 adults gently praising a child's horrible macaroni art.
i feel like the most wild thing i'll learn from this video is that the "Is it better than gender studies?" people actually exist
Because itâs so evident that it isnât or that it is?
@@eduardosantana8300 someone using diminishing gender studies for the sake of flaming someone with a doctorate is the point, not whether or not they are right in their subjective perspective
@@whizthesugoi right, but that is not what I asked. And I only asked because the doctorate on communications, talks about the danger of messing with epistemological processes already established. The chaos that ensures. So Itâs fair to askâŠ
@@eduardosantana8300 I don't understand the question then, sorry
@@whizthesugoi the question is, âis it better than gender studiesâ
Given all the points made in the video by the doctorate in communications
An analogy I could make for the barrier to entry to academia/science that exists is like this:
Say I'm the boss at a company that makes electronic devices, and someone comes in and wants to get hired for a position as an electrical engineer. If I ask them, "What is Ohm's law?" and they cant answer that? I'm not going to hire them, because they clearly haven't done even the most basic level of education about the subject that they would need to be competent in (competent, not even an expert, mind you) in order to do the work I would require of them.
If you are going to present new theories about things, you HAVE to have a solid understanding about the fundamentals or nobody is going to take you seriously.
I x R = 2, duh
Furthermore, if your argument is that you're trying to undermine those fundamentals and try to prove that they're wrong, then that doesn't mean you get to just ignore everything other than your own theory. You need to still have a solid understanding of what you're trying to prove wrong so that people can see that you're not just pointlessly dismissing things. You need to show why the current fundamentals are wrong or at least have a problem with them in order for anyone to take you seriously.
â@@BlazeMakesGamesIt is a bit like speaking a foreign language.
If you've a great idea, but you are speaking Martian, then... hell, you might even be right, but if nobody understands what you're saying, then you are all the way wrong.
â@@ohiocitydavewelcome back, Terrence.
Yeah, the problem is the guy that wants to job doesn't believe the fundamentals are correct in the first place
"Your not getting a Peer Review from me...
Your getting an Elite Review"
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Best part was Eric Weinstein saying what would you think tomorrow if i say i can destroy Jon Jones with a pinky finger lol
A world of information at our fingertips, and we're still arguing with people who don't understand basic math and science, but think they know more than those who can prove they do.
This is why we can't have nice things.
This is why religion is still relevant in the 21st century. At the core humans are still animals relying on instinct, emotional stimulus, and selfishness.
Not sure what you mean by that last sentence, because we have a LOT of nice things. In fact, we have more nice things than any previous generation to come before us, for all of human history.
honestly, too many people just do not trust experts for some reason. it is good to have some amount of questioning, but people think some shit is up for debate and not as concrete as it gets. people really are ignoring thousands of years of science and math and positing their own bullshit like it isnt already decided. it doesnt matter if it was right out of the mouth of albert einstein, these people would be debating it, creating conspiracy theories about how albert was actually a government agent with prosthetics to confuse people into believing gravity is real
â@@nickryan3288 haha his last sentence contradicts his 1st sentence
i read that last sentence in the voice of stitch
"I have a model" yeah so does flat earth
They dont
A model works
They can't even explain the seasons or eclipses with their "model" lol
@@davestier6247
They cant explain sunset and sunrise đ€Ł
@@dodumichalcevski They do have models. The models they have can't work but they think that the models work.
@@user-gl5dq2dg1j
They dont have models
Models work
What they got doenst work
Whatâs insane is how no one is understanding the implication of âIâm just asking questionsâ in this context.
It is not true curiosity, it isnât seeking deeper knowledge. Itâs a condescending way of poking holes in something that has already been decided to not be in line with an individual truth.
This made me think of Joe having Eddie Bravo (I think?) on a long time ago and he was adamant about flat earth or whatever conspiracy theory and even got Jamie SUPER heated about it. Eddie then resorted to the "I'm crazy" as a reasonable defense of him spouting nonsense...
"No one understands 1 times 1equals 2!!!"
That's nice Mr. Howard please settle down and eat your jello it's almost nap time
Terrence Howard's arguments remind me a lot of flat earthers. You know they're already trying to prepare arguments for when the 24 hour sun is seen by whichever flerf makes the trip to Antarctica. They will never admit defeat...."You went on TUESDAY! I said you can go any day BUT TUESDAY! Everyone knows there is no 24 hour sun on Tuesday!"
Haha same. They also "have a model"
iâm waiting to see what they come up with
@@Dannyv92A model that starts with the conclusion and works backwards to support it.
@@Jcs57 "support"
This guy isnstruggling to even review this clip lol đ T is referring to how we create things or language based on the systems being described are in existence the being labeled and described. With sentential logic using proof and calculus applied to language insists there are these things described in basic math language and as well in geometry and such. Internalized knowledge expreessed through language can become and is math translated from sentential logic. Self taught is called autodidactic lol. There is the reveal in the words which comes from philosophy which he states is his modus operandii. He Def isn't incorrect there is a communication breakdown between the two. I think T has found some narrow unknowns they cross planes. Technically when you look at the materials at base level the stress of potential energy is revealed withing the materials on atomic levels like heat show faster wriggling filaments therefore you can actually view motion in potential energy that's ridiculous ypunpeople need to look harder we already know these things not sure why that's not being revealed here seems like T sort of leads torward this but fails to be able to communicate effectively. There are some new things here and should be better understood and the means T needs communications training and understanding as well and a larger library of academic and scholarly terms to help him better effectively create more concise share fantasy of inter personal Communication. He needs help talking in short as a communications master. ;)
Terrance Howard faces facts like a 3 year old faces childhood trauma:
Running away & no small amount of crying đ
BUT I HAVE A PATENT ON IT !!
Be that as it may, He at least has the guff to return and face criticism.
The change in his views and concepts because of this episode will be rather dramatic I think.
Hats off to Eric.
WHAT IIIIIIIIIS THAT COMPARISON??!!!
I must have missed the unedited podcast. I don't see Terrance running đ
Despite how you feel, you should acknowledge that Terrance had sat there and accepted at times of being wrong; was he stubborn in some areas? Yes, but nonetheless listened and reached to Eric in the later to help him going forward.
And don't forget Terrance has brought 2 great things to the surface. 1 being the amazing shapes and geometries and his ideas with linchpin leading to a multi axis drone.
@@cluelessgod97 Respect. You actually did watch a majority of it. I watched 4 hours of three men discussing numerous constructs I could never have with my wife. I proudly watched the expert on the primary topic points continually express his thoughts through respectful discourse. Eric refused to punch down and was driven to encourage Terrence to become a student again so he could be involved in more brilliant discussions of discovery. I did not expect this kind of candor during a Joe Rogan podcast.
TLDR:
In the game Risk, there is a strategy called Australian Turtle. Basically, it takes a low priority territory that has only one choke point where all your forces are concentrated. The reenforcements gained per turn are small but since Australia is so low priority, people forget about it while they waist resources on each other and allow your army to trickle into more than they can handle.
Lots of people are as ignorant as Howard and very gullible. Silence people like him, and they will still grow underground and eventually challenge the world anyway. Let the entire world see them regardless if there is an immediate challenger (Terrance's first Rogan appearance) and the appropriate challengers will find them much faster. The world will also be much smarter for having learned WHY he is wrong.
*waste resources
â@@insertoyouroemailThanks.
lol that was my goto strategy in Risk!
are you saying i performed the Terrance Howard of risk strategies? How dare you! lol great analogy though.
My question is "Does Terrence Howard actually think that, after all this time, he's the one who figured it all out?" All of the EVERYone who came before him, and EVERYone who agrees with everyone who came before him, are ALL wrong. Is that what he thinks?
Why?
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." - W.C. Fields (maybe)
Awesome quote...P.T. Barnum IIRC ...not "the bank dick"
Bibbidy bobbidy boop
Hot take: one of the most damaging things to science communication is constantly having to remind everyone in the middle of explanations that you disagree with someone politically and you're just focusing on one idea of theirs just to make the ideological line between yourselves repeatedly clear.
What are you talking about?
@pitprok well, I made it through about the first half of the video, and there must have been a dozen times where Kyle would detour from what he was talking about to be like "now I don't agree with Eric on a lot of stuff. Or his brother. Or Terrence." And after about the 5th time I was just like OKAY I GET IT! YOU'RE ONE OF THE "GOOD ONES", GREAT! JUST EXPLAIN THE SHIT!
Same. It was unnecessary and reeked of desperation to stay 'in' with the cool kids.
I've seen your videos in my feed, but today was the first time I watched any of them, and I just so happened to be part one of this. We really need more people on your level of understanding stepping in on ideas that do not need to be mass-produced.
This interview is the gift that keeps on giving, now Kyle is getting into the action
The grift that keeps on grifting
Man.... I don't think the problem is Joe Rogan having Terrance on the podcast, I don't think the problem is Terrance being right or wrong.... the ACTUAL problem is the masses of people that decide to just believe something said on the internet without properly educating themselves on the topics first lol
Does everyone believe it just because Terrance Howard said it on the internet? I think itâs massively overestimated the influence fringe ideas like his has on people. Sure some people will believe whatever, but most still are thinking at least somewhat critically and arenât just going to believe anything just because it was on a popular podcast.
Best comment of the day!!
â@@swale5oGYou think to highly of humanity.
@@aplum4218 how do you figure? What percentage of people that listened to Terrenceâs first appearance just believed everything he said and are regurgitating it?
I dare say Eric actually outsmarted THâs stupidity and did it with firm kindness. Mind blown. I didnât think it was possible. Huge inspiration for me to strive for the same level of kindness at all times.
It's a metaphor.
What's a metaphor?
Nothing. What's a-metaphor you?
What about the part that he learned all of that from an angel in his dream?
What about a chunk of marble telling Michelangelo that David was inside and he just needed to reveal it?
man, just 150 yrs ago he would have a religion made after him with that...
â@@davechongle psh. He probably could today if he wanted to tbh
@Buildingskynet the quote is more like "I created a vision of David in my mind and simply carved away everything that was not David" , nothing about talking stones. But I get the part that It relates to the mind and it's mysteries. I personally think Michelangelo's quote is kind of a joke and simplified version of the processes, what tells about he's genius, and Howad's is trying to justify for something he doesn't fully understand and don't know how he came up with it.
â@Buildingskynet Terrance Is that you?
there's a really good article on aeon by Sabine Hossenfelder called "What I learned as a hired consultant to autodidact physicists" and it's a good look into how to talk to people like Terrence Howard. i hear she also has a youtube channel, i haven't checked it out myself, but I've heard good things
I find her quite irritating, but others like her. YMMV
Sheâs not afraid to say sheâs wrong, so in that regard sheâs good in my book.
I donât always agree with her, but sheâs a good science communicator. Sheâs a scientist and sheâs a skeptic of the hype and non-peer reviewed claims. She admits when sheâs wrong or changes her mind.
â@@geoffstrickler I definitely don't appreciate her talking with authority about topics she isn't qualified to discuss. Being an expert in one field, does not give you _any_ authority in unrelated fields.
I love her--she always has reasoned, interesting observations even when I disagree with her.
If Joe was in the world's biggest stadium with millions of people staring at him he would be more careful with what he said. Not seeing the audience size is a permission structure that we haven't learned to deal with yet....as humans
Joe Rogan claiming ignorance while wearing a NASA shirt is hilarious. By the way Kyle that is not a cigar sir.
?? You realize that wearing a NASA shirt does not necessarily mean that one needs to actually KNOW science, right? The two are not mutually exclusive.
@@nickryan3288 Thank you for that incredibly obvious fact.
The academic world IS elite, because they have put a ton of work in. They have earned it
He watched a video on fractals once and took it as "no straight lines".
This is what happens when someone confuses mathematics with physical systems and does it when they're garbage at both that's called pulling a hat trick and being garbage
In hustle and flow Terrance played a character that knew if he went to his neighbors who were playing music too loud that he had to speak their language to them and not come at it in a hot headed manner. He literally had a scene in a movie where he had to appeal to people in a way to connect with them, and seems not to understand that is the same process in the science field.
Someone else wrote that and directed him, he just acted the part
â@solvseus 100% and that's why TH doesn't understand basic human interaction.
@@solvseusBut he had to understand the characters motivations.
I thought Eric was as gentle as he could be with him.
I was surprised at how Eric handled it. He wanted to disprove him but he also wanted to help, thought that was nice. Science, if it's science, will always win in the end, it doesn't have to be toxic.
I love clowning on flat earthers and others of the sort.
I value a flatearther who tries and failes more then someone who doenst try at all
@@dodumichalcevski Tries what?
@@lain6889
"Discovering something new"
Whatever you wanne call it
â@@dodumichalcevskidiscovering without understanding is recipe for failure. Also there's difference between believing something blindly and looking for truth based on logical axiom and understanding. And no preconceived notion.
This podcast was so cool and i have so much respect for Eric for doing this. Ive never felt so stupid for 4 hours straight.
I didnt even know who that guy was before this
A timestamp where you did find out could be very helpful.
@@Bonhomme7h i simply googled the name, i dont remember anythikg being said about who Terrence Howard is.
Hes a US American actor that is aparently good at acting
â@@dripwastaken7884Kyle mentions it towards the beginning.
This is a you paying attention problem.
Also Google is a good resource.
Incredible actor, has been in some great TV shows and movies
Think of Eric what you may, he calls it as he sees it and doesnât try to please people. Itâs also great to see that Kyle acknowledges this, despite their differences.
Money â Intelligence
Poor jamie
Surely he went full Ben Affleck meme after this pod.
He was put to work this podcast
love how fair and real you are this what we need thanks for being you keep up
The problem here is that even though he concedes a little at the end... you can clearly see that he is NOT open to being proven wrong. Science is about being proven wrong more than being proven right and a good scientist accepts this truth. He needs to meditate on what it means to be a scientist and if that is actually something that he wants. He has to capacity to be a scientist... if he can accept the reality that he is wrong about so many things. But I think this is just a hobby for him... he gets pleasure from thinking that he knows what nobody else knows and it reinforces his idea of himself. I don't think he ACTUALLY wants to put in the REAL work.
Its such a mockery. This entire misunderstanding is that he never got past 1x1. They should ask him what 2x2 is then explain the math to him, then ask again so if you only have 1 amount of 1 type of thing how much do you have?
Donât try to reason with T.H. His whole schtick is to âlet goâ and âthink outside the boxâ and âextend the dimensionsâ. People who come from the Humanities or the Arts do not have much use for ideas like âobjective proofsâ. They grew up seeing opinion swaying to âconsensusâ that was built by any kind of argument, not necessary logical enough. Appeal to emotion, ideological partisanship, conversational ganking, all these are equal to mathematical proofs for these people.
If T.H. would break character and listened to logical arguments he would not have gone to the podcasts and stuff. His fallacies are self evident, however he chooses to sell them as ideology. The only question is whether or not he drank his cool aide, or if he is just peddling for publicity and money.
Dang, all that effort putting in a well thought out comment and all you get in return is this response...
Even that wouldnât flip him one bit. This guy said to a group of Oxford students that 1*1=2 and 1*2=3 and so on
He admits that he knows what you mean, but he has some nonsensical ideas about actions and reactions being involved. It's truly philosophical fart sniffing narcissism.
He thought he had a gotchya. He's just a guy that wants to be known for more than pretending to be other dudes.
You can tell Terrence has never actually had a teacher
Isn't the tragedy of Terrance Howard his own ego?
Ever since I was little, even before the internet, if I had to research things, I would always research ALL the things, and cross-reference things, and get other opinions, etc.
We now have THE ENTIRETY OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE AT OUR FINGERTIPS, and yet there was that whole COVID thing where countless people died who shouldn't have, and most people just look at one thing online and that's their research.
I don't know what's to be done, but SOMEthing has to be done. Hell, there are legit people out there who think Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's father.
I really appreciate your ability to push aside someone's personal life in order to be objective about what they're saying. We may not see eye to eye on everything with me being a devout Christian, but you are, to me, probably the best science educator for this generation. I especially appreciate your advocacy for nuclear power and your ability to make science not only accessible but also entertaining.
I think it's fantastic that Joe did this. I'm not super familiar with Eric, I know some about his brother Brett, but it appears Eric did a great job here and struck a very nice balance with not completely ignoring Terrence while still being real and direct.
And finally I do have to give Terrence some credit for agreeing to this and for not completely breaking down. Depending on what he does from here he could gain a bit of respect.
So, for everyone here who doesn't understand how Kyle can act like he does, you must not be aware of the concept of "compartmentalization".
It doesn't matter how you "feel" about someone or something.
It sucks to hear, but your opinions don't matter.
I would love for you to have a mod or someone to run chat for you so you can focus on the video. It's good to respond to chat, but when you're already unsure if you'll get to all the topics you want to discuss, then its probably not worth reading chats out loud and answering them "we'll get to that".
Yeah, it definitely makes watching these streams after the fact much more difficult, I have to skip through about half hour of the video to get to the point.
Terrence is an example of the dangers of getting into an echo chamber that fits one.
Joe Rogan had a guy on talking about Narrabu / Planet X.
Rogan knows his audience and how to milk every drop from that teat. He took the lessons from every grifter, politician, and religious leader tell them what they want to hear, assure them theyâre special all while laughing at them and cashing the checks.
ââ@@Jcs57it's your attitude that everyone hates. This elitist, narcissistic, main character syndrome. And the ironic thing is, those 'idiots' who you claim watch Joe Rogan are likely just as educated in STEM as you yourself are. In fact, I would say that people who listen to Joe Rogan are MORE informed, because they're willing hear different perspectives. Try not to forget, that a large portion of Jpe Rogans guests were prior listeners before agreeing to appear on his show. That means there are PLENTY of PhD's that are listening to Joe Rogan. Your attitude is really disgusting, especially your contempt for millions of people who you insinuate are fools, based on ZERO evidence. Your attitude, is the pervasive attitude that is slowly unraveling the fabric of society. It's the attitude of the elite, that tries to dehumanize 40:16 those 'others' that they tend not to agree with politically or socially.
I am not against Terrance Howard, but he needs to go through all the mathematics that anyone in Science or Engineering would go through. I remember retaking classes that I failed at first. It is hard stuff. I think that he would really find out so many things that he never knew. If anything Mr. Howard has the wherewithal to continue doing research while the majority of who took those classes had to get a job and hope not to get cut in the next round of layoffs.
I agree. Having gone through mechanical engineering and aerospace engineering courses, I learned so many concepts that I wouldn't have come across otherwise. That's something I realized about people who are confused or deny science related things. They didn't get a formal education on it and are missing those vital details you learn in those courses.
Think you both are missing the point. For example, even the most highly trained musician from Berkeley will never be a Hendrix. One's not better than the other and we should appreciate both for what they are.
@@Buildingskynet There are scientists and engineers that never got a degree, the difference is they proved they know what they're doing; this represents an extremely small percentage of people in those fields. Exceptions don't make the rule. Terrence has a good drive, but he gets even entry level things wrong (things that we know to be objectively true). Getting a formal education on the topics that he covers would serve him extremely well and expose him to concepts that he probably never heard of.
@@jasondrake2130 or let him riff and see what comes as a result. Fact of the matter is he's got people talking about it and with that it could spark an idea in someone who has more formal knowledge. With that perspective skies the limit with what could come from it.
â@@jasondrake2130 even then it depends on the country. In some countries you legally need an engineering degree to call yourself an engineer.
Its funny as hell hearing Joe Rogan tell someone "Hey, you aren't an expert and by trying to tell experts you know better is offensive". Because he does that shit all the time.
Rogan is a self avowed moron which he has reaffirmed on multiple occasions the next step in his development perhaps could be self awareness of his own hypocrisy.
Care to cite some examples? I never see rogan do that, if anything he just asks dumb ass questions in excess while saying shit like "I'm just a big chimp asking questions on the internet."
i think joe rogan only say his opinion on stuff and some words about what he believes in and get corrected on these.. and just like an old man he stand his ground on stuff he said but also accept correction on his opinion and beliefs
Joe never pretends to be an expert in anything
@@wesleyleach2793so he is not a professional vaccinology?
I love Joe Rogan when he talks about stuff he is well informed about. Not stuff like mathematics or science. If I wanted to learn scientific or mathematic literature I would go to a scientist or a mathematician
"Outlaw String Theory! And String Theory Research!!!!!" Dude, you would be the ultimate dictator, given the power.
The "in nature there are no straight lines" is the most bizarre thing he said to me.
Like, for his love of these goemetrical figures I would assume he is fascinated by the shapes of snowflakes.
There are tons of crystals that form straight lines just for starters.
He was 'harsh' because he was tired of his shit... he was tired of his bs nonsense. Everyone is.... O_x
Take a shot every time Kyle points out he dosnt agree with Eric's politics
Take a shot every time someone in chat calls him out for quoting Eric and believing that means he supports Eric's politics.
â@@mahelaniarektbbShould he be governed via shame by the least-intelligent in the chat or voluntarily guided by the most intelligent in the chat? Hill is no Freeman Dyson...he should be more open to Eric's politics, just like Eric should be more libertarian. (Once you understand proper morality, it's immoral to advocate totalitarianism.)
It made sense to me. People have a hard time seeing a person as a multifaceted entity. And we've reached a point where if you agree with someone on something, people automatically assume that you agree with him on everything. That's how people that had legitimate questions about the vaccines were labeled as anti-vaxxers and anti-science. Another example is how Republicans who agree with Democrats on some basic things are automatically labeled as RH.I.N.O.s . Or if you admit that Trump sometimes makes a good point or has done something good, you're automatically a Trump supporter.
Kyle probably learned this the hard way over the years and now makes that everyone knows what he's supporting and what he isn't.
Neil gave him a peer review like he was a colleague. Unlike any one else whoâs not going to give him a peer review.
The world has taken such a turn that I look on the whole fuss about Terence Howard as mostly harmless.
I love the absolute elitism of those who presume to decide who does/doesn't "deserve a megaphone."
I'm glad I got the opportunity to hear Terrance Howard's ideas. Now I know that the ideas are nuts.
That is part of the beauty of free speech and the marketplace of ideas.
Even if this dude is entirely wrong about almost everything in this context...his naivete and bullheaded insistence to be a part of mathematics has lead many people down the path of appreciating formal mathematics.
I watched the first stream Kyle did on Terence; some ppl in the chat called him a clickbait and a liar about nuclear bombs (yep u heard that). Apparently u can claim 1x1=2 and that your proof of being awake in the womb is your baby reacts to light, but anyone who discredits those claims is clickbait.
"I'm JuSt AsKiNg QuEsTiOnS BrOh!!!" đđđ
There are several papers that come from people outside academia. What they do is have one or more coauthors who are and know how to write a scientific paper, and double check the work of the main author who isn't.
Terrence is just recognizing properties of certain numbers and thinks he broke math. Numberphile is an entire channel about weird numbers and weird properties.
@Kyle Hill Did you make a mistake about Ally Costero and the "String theory lied to us and science ..." video. I think the science youtuber that made this video is Angela Collier ? Who is Ally Costero ?
Oh lord, Rogan really doubled down on taking advantage of Terrence...
in mr howardâs defense, i never in life knew about ancient/sacred geometry until i heard him speak..
4:26 start
15:10 real start
@@behlockaetheking7062thanks and yes
I like your words, science man
Eric was being really nice to Terrance. Also threw some shade at Neil. Lmaoo academic beef
Dang I love watching your videos Kyle, you're a very insightful and empathetic guy with a great head on his shoulders. Keep promoting scientific literacy!
Ha, I can see why Terence is so wrong now, his language and meaning doesn't line up with normal thought. To us, 1 times 1 just means 1 of 1. To Terence, the word times takes on a whole new meaning
Eric Weinstein seems to be a sweetheart of a guy, and you can tell he really tried to be kind here, both in tact and in even bothering to try to get through to Howard.
I mean... Gimme a show about Terrence Howard pursuing a doctorate in astrophysics, I am THERE!
Terrence is a person that went to the store, bought a Spirograph and thought he discovered the secrets to the universe.
To be fair, spirographs can be pretty inspiring! đ
Thors half brother with the facts! Love the streams and vids Kyle been watching you on yt for years. Because science.
Rogan is slowly and methodically bringing the cautionary film "Idiocracy" (2006) to life.
For all those wondering about the intro music, the answer is !!YES!!!, One Hundred Times !!YES!! that is indeed @KyleHill playing all those instruments, simultaneously I might add
Oh im looking FORWARD to this
Asking questions is good. If your epistemology can be dismantled, it should be.
Kyle could do please do a video on micro plastics, I been trying to fine good information on the subject.
To be fair it is a fairly new topic of research and it seems we are still trying to figure out the potential harms of microplastics.
Terrance is upset that a physicist isnât taking him seriously?!đłđłđłâŠâŠ.. BAHHAHAHAHAAA
Someone should tell him it's all Relative
Technically I think everyone deserves a megaphone...an actual physical megaphone (not a metaphor for a platform and an audience). A shiny new megaphone, or one that you can put stickers on. Why...well because people deserve to have at least one pointless luxury item in their life, or a thing that can be used to signal for help if you are in trouble. I mean people totally deserve to have like food, shelter, medical care, human and civil rights too... but I think you should have the self confidence in yourself to say you can own a real physical megaphone if you want one. You are good enough...you deserve it đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
I think most people have smarter things to say on their best day than Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Joe Biden have to say on their worst days ...and the prior people have very big megaphones and PA systems, indeed.
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âEvery does deserve a megaphoneâ is such a nonsensical and absurd statement.
Not all voices all equal, particularly in terms of subjects like math and science. Someone who has spent no time studying something should not be given the same credence as an expert who has spent thousands of hours investigating that subject among a field of their peers.
"his brother Bret is bad" This is the statement of someone who has not heard a single sentence said by Bret. That man is an impeccable human being.
this is like the drake-kendrick beef all over again