Using an Apple Power Mac G5 in 2022 - Is It Still Usable?

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    The PowerMac G5 was Apple's flagship machine in 2003, but how well does it hold up almost 20 years later? I check out some new operating system updates for Apple's PowerPC behemoth, and see how usable it is in 2022.
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    ▬ Contents of this video ▬
    0:00 - Intro to the Power Mac G5
    01:35 - Power Mac G5 Hardware Tour
    03:30 - Power Mac G5 Internals
    06:30 Apple USB Mouse & Keyboard
    08:07 - NordVPN Sponsor Slot
    09:26 - Power Mac G5 Cooling Fan Test
    10:50 - Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Tour
    14:20 - Mac OS 10.5.9 Sorbet Leopard
    15:45 - MorphOS
    18:00 - Summary
    Sources used in this video (with permission or under fair use):
    PowerMac G5 Ad: • PowerMac G5 Ad
    PowerMac G5 Intro Video: • advertising: PowerMac ...
    Steve Jobs introduces OS X Panther & Power Mac G5: • Video
    Apple - Mac Pro commercial (fall 2013): • Apple - Mac Pro commer...
    Apple - iPod + iTunes: • Apple - iPod + iTunes ...
    Apple WWDC 2005 - Intel Transition announcement: • Video
    Mac OS X Leopard Time Machine Demo: • Mac OS X Leopard Time ...
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  • @danwood_uk
    @danwood_uk  Před rokem +7

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  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 Před rokem +82

    It still blows my mind when I think about how a modern Android Tablet like a Nokia T20 in many ways is more powerful than this Power Mac G5, and cost many times less than this did when it was new, but still cool to see the Power Macs getting support from the community to this very day.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Před rokem +15

      Device power is meaningless if it is used to drive useless software on a device that you have no capability of controlling - Google Android and modern Apple systems are both guilty of loading on software designed for telemetry and for breaking down the user's privacy.
      I don't use or own any Apple devices but I have de-Google all of my Google Android devices over the past decade or so by installing custom ROMs (Cyanogenmod or Lineage OS) on them and, in all cases, battery life doubles and the devices feel faster to use - because of the removal of a lot of tracking and telemetry services phoning home to Google.

    • @Rap_Rat
      @Rap_Rat Před rokem +7

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 jesus...I bet you dont have any store "reward" cards either do you? Lol

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Před rokem +1

      @@Rap_Rat This isn't about me, sonny. So do stay on topic and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

    • @segaboy9894
      @segaboy9894 Před rokem +9

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 It's hard to get behind what you're saying when you're saying it on a Google service using your Google acct...

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Před rokem

      @@segaboy9894 I am using a dummy Google account registered on a burner phone that is completely de-Googled and therefore not tracked. I am as anonymous as one can be by that method - the only email that Gmail account gets is update emails from CZcams telling me a message has been replied to.
      I should also say that if it's hard for you to get behind what I am saying then that could also be down to your lack of understanding of how tracking works anyway - and your lack of knowledge really isn't my problem to resolve.

  • @lucius1976
    @lucius1976 Před rokem +10

    It is usable. In Germany electic heaters are out of stock, you could use one of those as replacement

    • @Kabodanki
      @Kabodanki Před rokem

      Electric ? That won’t solve a thing. Diesel heater is more interesting but more dangerous

    • @lucius1976
      @lucius1976 Před rokem +3

      @@Kabodanki Well, if your gas central heating runs out of gas, electric is an option. But of course if everyone switches it on at the same time likely the grid will collapse

  • @zedovski
    @zedovski Před rokem +8

    Using a Mac Pro 5,1 with dual-X5690s, 1TB SSD and 8TH HDD, triple 4K monitors. Works like a charm with the latest Mac OS thru OCLP. The old Mac Pros were timeless machines. I can even simultaneously emulate Windows and Linux on it owing to 48GB of RAM.

  • @RockTo11
    @RockTo11 Před rokem +90

    Ah man, OS X used to look so nice. Much better than it does in recent versions.

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool Před rokem +35

      Same for windows. Vista was beautiful and 7 looked great. 8, 10, and 11 are clinical flatliners.

    • @tenhovergonha8739
      @tenhovergonha8739 Před rokem +4

      Agreed with the two above

    • @alessandrobaldi2494
      @alessandrobaldi2494 Před rokem +2

      My first macos used wat 10.5 leopard, and i like old and new interface

    • @Freshbott2
      @Freshbott2 Před rokem +2

      I feel that. I still find Tiger the most beautiful and it’s the only OS to reflect what the machines actually looked like with the brushed metal. Then leopard was stunning, less charming than Tiger but it really felt like the future.

    • @user-lk7cv8vg7r
      @user-lk7cv8vg7r Před rokem +1

      I gotta be the contrarian here. 7, Vista, MacOS 10.5 were ugly as balls. They were that weird 00's design that was stuck in-between 90's plaintext and modern graphical aesthetics. Complete with super bubbly Japanese-like designed crap.

  • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
    @YearsOfLeadPoisoning Před rokem +92

    That case is still the best looking traditional PC case out there. The way the latch works and how beautifully it's laid out inside is unmatched IMO.
    I use a maxed out Intel '08 for audio production and it still absolutely flies.

    • @mkultrasoldier
      @mkultrasoldier Před rokem +4

      They're beautiful cases. I've long wanted to pick up a broken Mac Pro or G5 and build my modern PC into it, but I've never found the time. (Or the case really, they're not that common where I am, and I don't want to gut a working one.)

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Před rokem +2

      A beautiful heat-sink. Both of them. PowerPC would have been something with modern process nodes.

    • @Chalisque
      @Chalisque Před rokem

      I have a G5 (looking for a new home btw) and an HP Z800. There is no competition. The Z800 can be taken completely apart, in under 5min with no tools. The G5 was great for its time, and ahead of its contemporaries. But I got my G5 _after_ I got my Z800, and the limitations of the design of the G5 were obvious. To change a hard drive in a Z800 takes a few seconds, and no tools, for example.

    • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
      @YearsOfLeadPoisoning Před rokem +1

      @@Chalisque You don't need tools to change a HDD in a Mac Pro. The side panel pops off and the drives slide right out. I swap HDDs out all the time.
      But my position is mostly aesthetic. I prefer the build quality and industrial design of the G5 case.

    • @Chalisque
      @Chalisque Před rokem +1

      @@YearsOfLeadPoisoning The Mac Pro improved heavily on the Mac G5. I was comparing the Power Mac G5 to the Z800. I'd still like to see a video demonstrating the complete dismantling of a Mac Pro, without tools, in under 5mins, mind you. (Such videos exist for the Z800.)

  • @RockTo11
    @RockTo11 Před rokem +16

    I got one of these as soon as it came out. I believed the hype. I got the top-spec dual 2.0GHz G5. Spent a bloody fortune on it. The logic board died 3.5 years later.

    • @andrewclegg9501
      @andrewclegg9501 Před rokem +1

      Mine did too. Probably after similar time.

    • @turbinegraphics16
      @turbinegraphics16 Před rokem +6

      Calling a motherboard a logic board always sounds so weird.

    • @samatics4
      @samatics4 Před rokem

      Haven’t laughed all day but that did it. Thank you.

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 Před rokem +25

    Just bought a number of old PowerMac G4 and G5 for 'lightroom' photography. My film scanner needs the older machines for compatibility. Besides, they are beautiful machines.

  • @WalkerKirchman
    @WalkerKirchman Před rokem +15

    These machines hold a special place in my heart. I have the highest end build to order model from 2003 with the dual 2.0 processors, 2GB RAM, and the 9800 graphics card (complete with it's own cooling fan) and that machine is the most powerful computer from 2003 that I could ever imagine using. It is impossible for me to believe that it's almost 20 years old when it still can do so many modern tasks.

  • @NijiDash
    @NijiDash Před rokem +10

    Oh my, this video brought back so many memories! I used to be so obsessed over the looks of this case in particular, and it still looks great to this day. It inspires you to turn it on and start editing video right away or something. Also a pretty nice space heater in the winter it seems, lol. Microsoft also used one of those to test Xbox 360 games IIRC, as the CPU came pretty close to the one inside of that console.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo Před rokem +20

    I'm excited to see you testing MorphOS.
    Sure, the G5 is a sucker for energy but the idea of bringing new life to old tech still fascinates me.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt Před rokem +1

    I'm so glad I have one of these. It's just gorgeous when you crack the case and then have the clear plastic casing as well. It's function and art within perfect balance.

  • @gbeats1988
    @gbeats1988 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Up until this year, I was using a dual 2.0-GHz PowerMac G5 as my main audio workstation and produced multiple gold records with it. i bought it from a computer recycling center for $80 in 2016 to replace my aging G4

  • @b.sgaming6870
    @b.sgaming6870 Před rokem

    Thank you Chris. I really appreciate it and that was exactly what I was trying to do. No fuss and helping people get on with what they need

  • @willemvdk4886
    @willemvdk4886 Před rokem +4

    Oh I remember droooooling over the G5 back in the day. Could not afford it. But I actually did have the chance to buy a first generation Intel Mac Pro though my first job. I still remember being amazed by the engineering and quality of the case alone. No sharp edges, everything fits and feels heavy and premium and professional. It's even beautiful on the inside. Gorgeous, even. Such a great computer it was.

  • @delightfulsquirtle316
    @delightfulsquirtle316 Před rokem +2

    we did have the same G5 in my agency and I had to use it a few times due to some old hardware that only ran on that system. Man...this really made me apcreciate all the modern stuff like SSD we got nowadays.

  • @NALTOdeluxe
    @NALTOdeluxe Před rokem

    Was hoping you would upload again. Definitely not disappointed. Love me some Apple goodness.

  • @TheLifeOfJavi
    @TheLifeOfJavi Před rokem

    I remember our AV lab in high school having 4 of these and walking into them humming every day. I used to love that sound. OSX Leopard was a great OS too. I was given an extra license by my teacher for my black MacBook.

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Před rokem +1

    I have. G5 and it still looks great, I used a LC 475 to put a 113 page magazine together, great video nicely done!

  • @stiansoiland-reyes6341
    @stiansoiland-reyes6341 Před rokem +2

    We got the younger Intel brother of Power Mac in our office, and although we called it "heater" we never heard those fans. What a beautiful and functional case design! Our heater is still in the server room somewhere, running Docker containers in Linux!

  • @benjaminpeternorris
    @benjaminpeternorris Před rokem

    I've still got my Dual 2 Ghz G5. It still works as well as the day I first had it. I'm loathed to get rid of it as I always loved the machine - the build quality and attention to detail is impeccable. Sadly it's been gathering dust under my desk for some time though... Maybe I'll give that Sorbet Leopard a try to give it a new lease of life! Great video!!

  • @InfiniteLoop
    @InfiniteLoop Před rokem +3

    I have an 05 dual processor sitting by my desk because the applications on it, I own, I don't have to rent them like you do on newer machines, and Photoshop ect still work fine.

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups Před rokem

    Great video Dan! I loved it!

  • @nevadaxelizabeth
    @nevadaxelizabeth Před rokem +5

    just to add, the liquid cooling on the later G5 was insane because it used automobile grade coolant, Dex Cool, which it was surprising because it is corrosive.
    also. nice to hear there is gonna be a new video of someone running MorphOS and on a G5. i was literally looking for a recent video of someone running it on a G5 a few days ago.
    MorphOS always have mystified me and i never had the chance to use it

  • @yega3k
    @yega3k Před rokem

    I used one at work when they were first released! I loved the way the fans sounded - felt like a big cat sitting next to me! A real beast of a machine !

  • @KiwiRaymond
    @KiwiRaymond Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just got my G5 back after a 10 years. I don't have a DVI-D converter on hand so hoping it works well - the fans are running and the light is on so that's positive! I hope it still has FCP installed along all the goodies that are too numerous to mention! Thanks for your video. Long Live the PowerMac G5! (FWIW: I purchased mine in 2004)

  • @umbrollo
    @umbrollo Před 10 měsíci

    What a brilliant video. Love the Sorbet update

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t Před 8 měsíci +1

    When I was a kid and me and my family used exclusively Macs, I encouraged my dad to buy the Apple AirPort w/ Time Machine and it was a really great and convenient way to have universal network attached storage for backups for all of the computers on the network. It was also a pretty good N router.

  • @stu2779
    @stu2779 Před rokem +1

    I bought my june 2004 Dual 2.5ghz a little over a year ago, I rebuilt the LCS and cleaned up the leaked coolant and then proceeded to max out everything ram and nvidia 6800 ultra DDL video card, I love to run the older Power PC Mac games and mess around with the audio and video editing tools.

  • @JimAllen-Persona
    @JimAllen-Persona Před rokem

    Thanks, you made me feel better about considering upgrading my aging mini. If you can do video editing on it, it should be powerful enough for me.

  • @StayCoolKeto
    @StayCoolKeto Před rokem +1

    *Good morning from Thailand, Dan! Greta video! love your stuff! Not a fan much of Apple really though, but the video was cool! Amiga then PC!* 💪👍

  • @marcelfrehse
    @marcelfrehse Před rokem +1

    still the greatest retro channel of all time !

  • @bunkermagnus
    @bunkermagnus Před rokem

    Great video, I was a Linux / Windows nerd during the 90'ies up 'til 2011 when I had my first real run in with MacOS/OSX.

  • @Chalisque
    @Chalisque Před rokem +3

    Due to space, I have to get rid of my old G5. I booted it up recently. It is amazing how well Logic Pro 8 runs compared to what you get on modern machines, and with a fraction of the CPU horsepower.

  • @barefootuptomysoul
    @barefootuptomysoul Před rokem +1

    Of course it is still usable. I have a few. One I use as a door stop or sometimes as a paper weight. Occasionally I hide books in it's gutted shell just in case the farenheit 451 folks come to raid my home. I even use it as a cheese grater to sprinkle on my pizza.
    My other G5 1.8ghz is used to watch movies and tv shows. My other G5 2ghz is used to edit movies, mix audio and edit photos or graphics. These two work excellent for what I need them to do.

  • @macbooksinmotion
    @macbooksinmotion Před měsícem +1

    Down in my heart, I still have hope for PowerPC.

  • @kirelicnh
    @kirelicnh Před rokem +2

    i still have one of these cases, i actually have a cluster of raspberry pi's inside it as it hides it all and looks stunning at desk along with pc and laptops

  • @shivamkumargaur9871
    @shivamkumargaur9871 Před rokem

    Thanks for the tutorial

  • @richardhunter1654
    @richardhunter1654 Před rokem +10

    I’ve got a Quad Core G5 and I’ll be completely honest all I’ve ever run on it is MorphOS. Definitely the best MorphOS machine out there as I’ve also got a MacMini G4 and PowerBook G4 so I’ve got something to compare it to.

    • @insaneiaq
      @insaneiaq Před rokem

      Is MorphOS capable of using all 4 cores? I'd be tempted to buy a copy for one of my G5s, but I'd hate to spend the money if it really can't take advantage of multi processing.

    • @richardhunter1654
      @richardhunter1654 Před rokem +1

      @@insaneiaq None of the "next gen" Amiga operating systems are multi-core yet I'm afraid. The reason the Quad G4 is best for Morphos is the DDR2 ram and the PCIe graphics that speed it up a bit. Plus the advantage that the Quad's cooling system is more reliable than the older dual core G5's.

  • @atomicorang
    @atomicorang Před rokem

    Great video. I own a PowerMac G5 that I’ve maxed out but not enough time lately to tinker with. I’ll download Sorbet one of these day since I’m curious about it. Also have 30” Mac monitor with it

  • @benjaminsmith3151
    @benjaminsmith3151 Před rokem +1

    I'd say it's more than the end of the powerpc era, it was the end of when they built quality into every aspect of their systems. I'm very familiar with that fan noise, as that was the first thing I heard walking into my lab when a colleague's intel machine in that same style case was churning smoke out the back. I loved mine, when it was the most practical way to get a machine with 16GB of memory, and eventually a 64-bit operating system. Then firefox "Updated" itself into an intel-only binary. The mighty mouse is great, and I still use it on a newer computer. That squeezing the sides to push all your open windows onto the screen at once was the best feature I have ever seen in a user interface. Overall, buying that thing was a permanent lesson in intentional obsolescence. It had the specs to be the top of the line for about a year. I built my own 8 core machine soon after that. Never again, apple.

  • @martinsaint9999
    @martinsaint9999 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for your hint regarding "Sorbet Leopard". I will give it a try when I have time. A friend of mine gave me a Power Mac G5 4 x 2,5 GHz with 12 GB RAM as a gift, that looks brandnew. 😄

  • @atarixle
    @atarixle Před rokem

    after you mentioned it, I found that adjustment wheel under my Pro Mouse, and I have to say: thanks for the hint! and it actually does something. turned to the right the click is heavier, turned to the very left, it is much easier to click. I acutally set it to easy-click now.

  • @marc6340
    @marc6340 Před rokem +1

    I used my G5 for a long time, but alas, she succumbed to leakage from the cooling system and I had to retire her. I am using a 2012 Mac Pro now, running Monterey!

  • @strifemusic_
    @strifemusic_ Před rokem

    I own the PowerMac G5 with the Dual 1,8 GHz CPU, 6 GB DDR SDRAM and FX 5200 GPU, which runs on Mac OSX 10.5.9 Sorbet Leopard. I mainly use it for old school gaming and music production. I installed games like Warcraft III, The Sims 1 and The Sims 2 (NoCD patch doesn‘t work for me on Sims 2 unfortunately) and DAWs like Logic Pro 8 and Ableton Live 7, which surprisingly ran fine.

  • @insertaverygenericnamehere

    I had the G5. It consumed 200 W idling and a lot more when in use. Bought my configurstion for 2500 Euros. Sold it a couple of years later for 2300 Euros. What a deal.
    My energy consumption dropped *extremely* after I sold the G5.

  • @jdevlin1910
    @jdevlin1910 Před rokem

    Running a couple of Mini's myself these days but man the G5, makes a lovely side table for a lamp.

  • @RasVoja
    @RasVoja Před rokem +3

    Here is an iMac G5 user, yes, its possible, Office on MacOS X and Wayfarer and Iris on MOS :)

  • @KeoneStevans
    @KeoneStevans Před 11 měsíci

    i still use mine on the regular, mainly as a media machine/backup archive. i maxed out the RAM to 8 gigs and have a 3 fb drive and it’s fast considering it’s age! I don’t connect it to the web but it’s I can DJ with it, as the early version of Serato Scratch Live works fine with the hardware despite its age. I have the Adobe suite cs2 which still works, as does the VLC player. and yes it’s a great space heater in the winter!

  • @rachelblack3816
    @rachelblack3816 Před 3 měsíci

    I still use my Quad G5 today to run old graphic arts software that still works well for me. The main reason that I bought it used many years ago is bc it is the fastest Mac that can run the Classic environment, even faster than a Classic-native machine could.

  • @praneshkumar4628
    @praneshkumar4628 Před rokem

    Wanted to thank you for a great vid. Helped a lot. I've been trying to get going in both soft soft and didn't get very far. TNice tutorials vid helped a

  • @samuelgosling2000
    @samuelgosling2000 Před rokem +1

    fun fact I use a modded power Mac g5 case to house my pc, from the outside it looks 100% original and I love it so much

  • @deondieleman8271
    @deondieleman8271 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for this video. Folks are using the G5 to this day with various applications. It is a professional computer with an amazing design topology which produces top class audio results. I use it (G5 2004) with Logic Pro and audio card for mixing and mastering. Core Audio is Worldclass to integrate audio processing flawlessly, internally and externally.

  • @jamescameron1861
    @jamescameron1861 Před rokem +1

    I've started looking on eBay. I want a maxed-out quad. A beautifully designed system IMHO, back when Apple still got the need to elegantly design form, function and upgradeability. I doubt I'll ever own one, but I still feel this is a truly iconic Workstation

    • @markboyle9941
      @markboyle9941 Před rokem

      If you're looking for the best one, try and find a dual 2.7 GHz. I've got the dual 2.7 and a quad 2.5 GHz one, for most purposes the 2.7 GHz machine is faster. That being said, check either model out before you buy, the coolant systems in these things leak and destroy the logic board. Happy hunting!

  • @imo3ad374
    @imo3ad374 Před rokem

    Just bought soft soft! So excited to get started!!

  • @turbinegraphics16
    @turbinegraphics16 Před rokem +2

    Its interesting because the first PPC mac cpus were much smaller and less power hungry compared to the pentiums of the time while being more powerful depending on what you were doing. They were considered more forward thinking compared to the pcs.

    • @fridaycaliforniaa236
      @fridaycaliforniaa236 Před 11 měsíci +2

      In some ways this is still what's happening today with the M cpus. They might look fantastic, but only if you find a task they like to do...

  • @MotownBatman
    @MotownBatman Před rokem +1

    I just acquired a Working Power Mac G5, Single Processor... It works but it's in need of work. I've never had any Power Mac's so this will be a learning Experience

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool Před rokem +1

      Can you upgrade that into a dual CPU later down the line?

    • @MotownBatman
      @MotownBatman Před rokem +1

      @@blunderingfool The Case has plenty of room however the MainBoard doesn't have the connection points printed if I wanted to try and Soldier the additional Processor Slot

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool Před rokem

      @@MotownBatman Ah, gotcha.

  • @MrKotBonifacy
    @MrKotBonifacy Před 2 měsíci

    9:50 - those Macs often "can't detect the temperature" when in sleep mode - for whatever reasons, but it happens. Sometimes it takes hours, sometimes it happens five or ten minutes after "going to sleep" - the take-off mode kicks in, and the only thing you can do is to force shut it.

  • @RonLaws
    @RonLaws Před měsícem

    I'm not a big Mac fan, though i did get to use the cheese grater in college during my media studies days in the mid 2000s and it is still my favorite case design. I wouldn't mind having one in my collection. Hell even if i could only get a hold of the case without working internals i'd totally rock it as a modern PC

  • @thewesterj
    @thewesterj Před 5 měsíci

    I've got a maxed out 2012 g5 . I use it everyday for making beats. I use it for all my scoring demos. It never fails me.

  • @markmuir7338
    @markmuir7338 Před rokem +1

    I bought a dual 2.5GHz one of these back when I could barely afford it - it was great for code building. But 1 week after its warranty expired, it leaked coolant all over itself and burned out both processors. The coolant heavily corroded the inside of the machine, destroying its beauty in the process. Shame - I would've still had that as a show piece to this day if I could - it was beautifully designed.

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 Před rokem

    We still have one for ligher computing purposes. It has a 10 GB of RAM ( will probably max it out to 16 at some point ) a new SATA drive and the most important upgrade an Quadro FX 4500 videocard. A severe improvement. The reason why I haven't want with an SSD is because these machines are very picky when it comes to them. a good fast and with descent amount of cache mechanical drive will perform just fine.

  • @Nenemon
    @Nenemon Před rokem

    I remember having one of these with a leaking water cooling loop. The fans sounded essentially like a turbofan jet engine on an aeroplane at full speed

  • @mrratchet
    @mrratchet Před 11 měsíci

    Still got my Dual Processor G5 too, though it's currently configured as an Xbox 360 Alpha 2 devkit.
    What do you usually do with yours when it's not in use? Does it stay in storage?

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 Před rokem

    Great video. Thanks for sharing, I also dream of a. G5. Before it was introduced I did not want Apple do go that route, because I knew it was hot and optimized for the server environment and the loss of altivect (Power 4). The G5 did have Altivect to my surprise, limited, but great. I loved the machine and used it at the University. Power: Yes that is an issue, and for most people running an hot Ryzen with an NVIDIA. 200+ watts gpu makes no sense and it's just irresponsible.

  • @notajp
    @notajp Před rokem +1

    Really miss my dual G5. Still hoping to get a replacement power supply for it someday. Still have the original Cinema Display for it too…

    • @burrocakes8048
      @burrocakes8048 Před rokem

      I consistently see the Powermac G5 Acbel PSUs go for around $40-50 shipped on ebay. Good price.

  • @user-sw9lt8fu1l
    @user-sw9lt8fu1l Před 3 měsíci

    My old G5 is still the workhorse in my music recording studio. It doesn't lack for power. It does lack in the ability to use newer software, but Pro Tools 9 and Reason 3 are all I really need.

    • @Ryanrickybobby
      @Ryanrickybobby Před měsícem

      How did you download all those? Whenever I try I get errors and "you can not run this application on here" safari is also not working on it so I can't download brave or anything lol.

  • @NeonEUC
    @NeonEUC Před rokem

    Very interesting video, esp when I’m new to the apple products. Mrs got me an Pad which I’m still adjusting too. I would love to see the mac G5 go head to head with an Amiga 4000 on daily tasks. I can imagine that it will be a long edit video, but what a show down that would be

    • @Ben_3113
      @Ben_3113 Před rokem +1

      The G5 is leaps ahead of the A4000. I'd still prefer an A4000 though :-)

  • @RJLightning68
    @RJLightning68 Před rokem +1

    I remember a number of years ago when David covered this machine, and had to carry it on a dolly through a mall lol

  • @GyanPrakash
    @GyanPrakash Před rokem

    This computer is way ahead of its time 😊

  • @AndrewJohn311
    @AndrewJohn311 Před 6 měsíci

    Been using mine for retro gaming.

  • @netboy7638
    @netboy7638 Před rokem

    I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the reason the fans ramp up like that is that they need to be recalibrated with the ASD (Apple Service Diagnostics disk for the machine.

  • @bonaventura_AKA_ben
    @bonaventura_AKA_ben Před rokem

    Dan thanks for the video. So in terms of speed, is this slower thank a stock 500 or 600 when running Morphos for 68k apps?

  • @x66Hawk66x
    @x66Hawk66x Před rokem

    I bagged a g5 along with a 2009 mac pro today. I was surprised when I opened it and found it had the WiebeTech g5 jam installed.

  • @giffmiff5920
    @giffmiff5920 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Dan I wonder if you can help identify my G5 Mac tower as you seem to be a Mac Guru and have had them all. I am trying to replace the PRAM battery in my G5 Tower Mac that I haven't used for years but need to get going to use the firewire ports for my scanner. The inside of mine doesn't look like the one in your video. When I take the side panel off I see 4 hard drive bays where I think the battery housing is in your video. Yours is the same as an iFix video on battery replacement. Any pointers would be great . Thanks Geoff

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 Před rokem

    I had a similar g4, 2001/2002, Mac OS X.1, "Aqua Interface" Cinema Display, with the "Cheesegrater" unit. Fun!

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Před rokem

      Power Mac G4 did have the nice feature of easy access to the motherboard. Most modern machines leave it vertical.

  • @mhoppy6639
    @mhoppy6639 Před rokem +1

    Great machine. I was one of the bozos(as jobs would put it) who bought a G5 iMac 6 months before they announced the move to intel. Thanks Steve. A bunch.
    5 macs and two laptops later I still have apple but have recently built my own PC which for me was a massive achievement with my limitations. It really really flies and was built much cheaper than an equivalent mac. The apple silicon stuff does look good though…

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 Před rokem +13

    Yes, please do a revisit of Morph OS. I'd like to give it a try on my Mac G5.

    • @richardhunter1654
      @richardhunter1654 Před rokem +3

      I’ve been running MorphOS on a G5 Quad for nearly two years now and it flies.

  • @Estaran
    @Estaran Před rokem +2

    I just finished my job training as a media designer in 2003, so I remember using this Mac from while I was still working as a media designer. IIRC this was also the time, when we left QuarkXPress behind and went with Indesign instead. Later on, we got some fancy new flatscreen monitors as an upgrade, as well as an upgrade to OSX - what a wild ride it was. After that, Macs were banished from our agency completely, as Dell workstations with Windows were far cheaper for the performance of a similar priced Mac.

  • @gpturismo
    @gpturismo Před rokem

    Man I miss PPC. Imagine if they stuck with it and were basing chips of the later powers that have SMT4+ but Jobs saw ARM, then RISC-V as the future.

  • @AlyxSharkBite-2000
    @AlyxSharkBite-2000 Před rokem

    I had one of the first PowerMac with the Intel CPUs that had the same case. Was a great machine

  • @JackDunford
    @JackDunford Před rokem +1

    We've got one. Makes an excellent side table now.

    • @barefootuptomysoul
      @barefootuptomysoul Před rokem

      LMAO I did not think to use it as a side table. I have two that a 2' x 4' piece of wood on top makes a great coffee table.

    • @JackDunford
      @JackDunford Před rokem +1

      @@barefootuptomysoul And it comes with some storage abilities too.

  • @EnjoySynthSounds
    @EnjoySynthSounds Před rokem

    Had an old Imasc G5. Great for rertro games such as Quake.

  • @asphixmx
    @asphixmx Před rokem

    Love the old-era look of MacOS... much much more visual than "minimalistic" of today. Today looks like 1982 C64 GEO.

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting Před rokem +4

    I believe we had one of these at work at my last place because someone had convinced the people that paid for them that they needed it for doing the graphics for the website. The website was never that great and this wasn't needed. Someone clearly didn't know what they were pissing council tax payers money on.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 Před rokem +1

      Ah yes local government. The most jacked up legal nonsense in existence.

  • @Vlamat67
    @Vlamat67 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for the video, very interesting. I own the same G5 at 2Ghz but equipped with the second version AGP 8x and PCI with PowerPC 970Fx CPU produced at 90nm, therefore less voracious of energy than the first G5 series produced at 130nm. The 90nm production made it possible to create CPUs clocked up to 2.7Ghz, the first to be cooled with a liquid system, which in reality was not necessary but made the G5s seem much more powerful than they were. For those trying to understand how powerful the G5s are, I can say, based on tests carried out on real applications, that this machine is as fast as a 20" iMac equipped with a 2.1Ghz Core2Duo cpu; in some cases it is faster in others slower, especially in the graphics subsystem, which was basically equipped with an nVidia Fx5200 Ultra or an Ati 9600, clearly better than nVidia.For a certain period I was able to use an nVidia 7800GS 256Mb which unfortunately only lasted a few months and then failed. for this machine the best choice falls on the ATI, like a 9800Pro, which has better features, both at video level and at OpenGL level, despite being an older product than the 7800GS.The problem is that these cards being very pushed in top performance , durability over time is always an unknown factor.
    The 970Fx cpu have the advantage of consuming less (measured 160watts at 220v 50Hz) at full capacity and with Apple ADC 22" 1600x1024 monitor under the same power supply and heat up very little, less than a first generation MacPro 1.1; after 3 hours of rendering 3D with the cpu at 100%, the temperature detected was around 68° celsius degrees - 154.4°F - while in idle, the temperatures oscillate between 43° and 49° celsius degrees - 120°F -. a fresh thermal paste that has been stored for at least 3 months and a deep cleaning of the PowerMac before performing these tests.
    Unfortunately I have been able to ascertain that on many G5 machines the basic problem of fast spinning fans and high temperature cpu are due to the failure of the HeatPipe system which is still used today in modern heatsinks, from laptops to desktops. If the heatpipe doesn't work, the heat generated by the CPU will remain confined in the thick layer of copper and aluminum present at the base of the heat sink, raising temperatures even beyond 80°. To check if a heatsink works well, you need to heat its base with a gas flame (without cpus ;) ) and check "by hand" that the heat is distributed quickly to the upper parts of the heatsink.
    It's a pity that Apple has abandoned PPC technology, still supported by IBM today with its Power10, but abandoning Intel in favor of Silicon was my way, a return to the past where Risc technology has always been considered better of the CISC counterpart adopted by Intel and AMD.

  • @jdryyz
    @jdryyz Před rokem

    I have a 2.3GHz Dual Core from 2005. The last G5 model produced, if I am not mistaken. It has some improvements over the Dual Processor G5s but it also high incidents of power supply failures. The replacement I purchased a few years ago only lasted a year and half and then it too died. I am thinking it could be a bad cap issue or some some other defect. I haven't revisited it yet since removing the power supply is a bit of a chore to say the least.

    • @laurensnieuwland4657
      @laurensnieuwland4657 Před rokem

      Could be a leaky water cooling setup.

    • @jdryyz
      @jdryyz Před rokem

      This model is not water cooled.

    • @laurensnieuwland4657
      @laurensnieuwland4657 Před rokem

      @@jdryyz Oh sorry, I just assumed it was since you said last G5. Always thought the last one was water cooled.

  • @Ami8driver
    @Ami8driver Před rokem

    I still have my PowerMac G5 1.8GHz with 8GB RAM!
    Adobe CS2 is running very fast, and I play some old games on it while keeping my feets warm. 😃😉 I will try another OS on it, morphOS or the other one.

  • @companyoflosers
    @companyoflosers Před rokem

    Saying the revision used water cooling is a bit misleading. It used a vapor chamber-style heat sync, but a heat sync nonetheless.

  • @mattalki
    @mattalki Před rokem

    Sometimes I wonder if they'd kept up on the G5 for a bit longer (Maybe Snow Leopard or Lion) if it wouldn't still be more useful. Also, it would have been nicer to get some video cards that were just a bit more capable. They came with fairly low end cards even back when they were new, and I feel that really hurt them. I still have my 1.6Ghz G5 in the closet, and I'd love to make use of it, but there's just not much you can do short of hobby stuff. I definitely enjoyed the video! I love these old machines. Fun fact: My first Mac was an iBook G3 from 2002/2003 as well!

    • @juanignacioaschura9437
      @juanignacioaschura9437 Před rokem

      Even if Apple would have wanted to soldier through with the G5 for some years, Intel's achievements with P6 would've left the G5 in the dust, they couldn't afford to such ridicule.
      Besides, the problem with PowerPC towards the end of its run on Mac Hardware wasn't just technical: the AIM Alliance was on the verge of break-up (Apple and IBM couldn't agree on the progression of the architecture, and Motorola left and spun off its subsidiary; this could jeopardize the supply agreements and any future developments).

  • @mvickers03
    @mvickers03 Před rokem

    6:08 Those aren't PCI-Express slots matey, they are PCI X which is basically PCI for 64bit computers.

  • @williamlawless1585
    @williamlawless1585 Před rokem

    Can the G5 run the latest Logic pro X, if not, does it have the adjustable capacity too? Thank you

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 Před rokem

    I have a g5 all in one, 2008, 17" Tiger, great system!

  • @nukfauxsho
    @nukfauxsho Před rokem

    When i was in college, we used to bring our macbook pro remotes into our lecture hall (300+ seats) and point the remote up and press PLAY. It caused all the macs to start playing the first song in iTunes. I was a horrible person lol.

  • @cinemint
    @cinemint Před rokem

    As a note, Sorbet Leopard doesn't use code from the beta. It only uses code from the official Leopard release.

  • @brightshadowdenmark
    @brightshadowdenmark Před rokem

    Is there any chance that Chrome OS Flex will run on the G5 CPU´s ?
    i guess last time i used a Mac was in 1995 ;-) (i live in Denmark) but now i'm getting a Power Mac G5 (older aircooled dual cpu model) only thing missing is the harddrive and OS.. i build 100's of PC's from 1998 to now but never worked on Mac's.. how do i get an OS on it ?

  • @stpworld
    @stpworld Před rokem

    I have rare apple workgroup servers and the first one workgroup server 60 and I still use a g5 to convert vhs then I export the file to modern macs.

  • @billgates3699
    @billgates3699 Před rokem

    @Dan Wood Correction! According to the developer of Sorbet Leopard, no code from the PPC beta of Snow Leopard was used. He began development before the leak even occurred. This is a totally original modification based on only 10.5.8.

    • @danwood_uk
      @danwood_uk  Před rokem

      Ah I read that it used the Snow Leopard beta code on a forum, thanks for clarifying.

    • @billgates3699
      @billgates3699 Před rokem

      @@danwood_uk the developer is known as Z970 on the MacRumors forums. Check out the development history. Dedicated guy.

  • @Dickiesmall
    @Dickiesmall Před rokem

    I was just gifted a Power Mac G5, I’ve always used Apple’s all-in-one desktops, but since this was collecting dust, I figured I’d take it! Setting it up now, and I hope it’s at least semi-functional 😆😅🔥

  • @smokingunclefrank6037

    My old Power Mac just runs on Lion but I only use it for old games plus I can run os 9 emulations of course