Will a Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun Survive the 500 Round Burndown?
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Join James Reeves as he puts the Kel-Tec KSG to the ultimate durability test in this video! Witness the KSG's resilience (or lack thereof?) as we fire 500 rounds of shotgun shells as fast as possible in a rapid-fire challenge. This test is part of our rigorous "500 Round Burndown" series where we push shotguns to their limits to assess their toughness and reliability. Get ready for some intense action, surprising results, and expert analysis on how the KSG stands up to extreme shooting conditions. Don't forget to hit like, subscribe, and share for more hardcore firearm testing videos.
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Contents
0:00 Intro
2:58 Loading Up
3:51 First Shots
4:55 First Impressions
6:36 First Malfunction
7:58 Firing 3" Magnums
11:14 The End of the Test
12:13 Conclusion
James doing shotgun burn downs is some of the best CZcams content there is
Yeah. I don't put my tools in mud baths or run them over with trucks... But I do use them... Thank you James.
I live for these.
@@hidesinlonggrass3229 Agreed. I always found "torture tests" dumb, like I am never going to drop any of my firearms from 30ft up or freeze them solid or submerge them in mud, but I am going to fire them. These burndowns are great because they show results of what might happen if you took the thing out and just shot it a ton. Don't need to create a bunch of weird scenarios that'd never happen in real life.
Yes it is.....he tests them in real world conditions with the shit budget ammo most of us practice with as well as the full power ammo they should be able to digest.
GunShorts always delivers
James is taking them “3inchers” better and better as he matures, one day he may be able to take a 3 1/2”
The Benelli SuperNova and Nova's are rated for 3.5's. What would you call that, an ultra magnum?
@@cbbees1468Super magnum
The magnums were hard-on him
Impressive how he trains his body to take more and more
@@calyptomenaviridis Many thanks.
I have the KSG and have shot at least 1000 shells through it. One thing that I was told early on was the tube selection switch eventually comes loose and fails like it did for you. I was advised to Loctite the selector switch screw. . I did this before any issues and I have never had any problems. I shoot everything from mini shells to 3". Many different types of ammo (brand name or cheap) with no problem. You are right it's one of the best designs I have come across. I have a shell carrier mounted on top that holds 10 shells. So with the 15 in the gun plus the shell carrier I have 25 shells on/in the gun. Fun to shoot.
how did you Loctite the screw?
this is the way keltec works in general. people just dont have any nuance. they're great for those who aren't turned off by needed to do basic gunsmithing work. but many people dont even clean their guns.
they have quirks. most guns do. but the ksg for example, is not adequate out of the box. it takes hundreds of dollars to get them in proper order (magazine upgrade, recoil mitigation, etc)
but once you have it all together, you have something as functional or better than any competitors at a lower price point. they're not for everyone. but they dont deserve the reputation they have AT ALL. good example in how memes genuinely influence people.
Keltec should be able to apply loctite, jeez.
@@DeltaSierra181 It can be done by anyone with a half a brain and common sense.
Should be done at factory. @@guicohj
“You might be out on that tube.” @9:38
Everyone’s still too busy laughing about James taking 3-inchers to catch the best line in the video. Or maybe they’re just distracted by all the frustrated pumping.
I laughed at the "don't make me look bad on camera" look on his face as he switched tubes
I know I'm sounding like a broken record at this point but I would love to see a burndown of the KS7. Especially since it seems the double-feed system is a point of failure.
Doubt it would make it
I like mine. Got rid of the pos carry handle because you can’t get an actual cheekweld with over hear muffs on
@bobbysixty i mean its a pretty simple cycle function i dont see how it wouldn't
@@Nick-hm9rhit feeds smoother
The kS7 was a POS. Sold mine back as it would never feed. Don't trust keltec
13:06
"Ryan and I were really PUMPED"
Nice one James.
There's a man with a company in New York who makes accessories for this shotgun like a better selector switch, a muzzle break, a pump safety (a handle so you cant slip your fingers in front of the barrel and shoot them off) and some other cool stuff. You should see if his parts fix the selector switch issue, the accessories he makes for these is part of why I like them so much.
What's the company name?
@@keithstone9214 Hi Tech Customs. I bought and installed the howitzer muzzle brake, picatinny rail extension, foregrip, selector switch extension, butt pad, cheek rest, and shell holder. I can say the accessories are build better than the shotgun.
I’ve had really good luck with my KSG and had no malfunctions whatsoever after nearly a decade of use. I’m not running 500 rounds as fast as I can though, maybe 50-100 per outing.
It's standard guntuber faire to take a gun and run it very, very far outside the realm of reasonable use case with none of the recommended maintenance, and then call it a bad product when it fails in predictable fashion. It makes for good content to shit on affordable products.
Well I'm assuming you don't run high brass buck shot and slugs all the time. My dad has one and we've shot a hell of a lot of birdshot through it but not quite the same payload
@@Doug_R1if I’m going to use a gun for serious use, which is one of the primary uses of a firearm designed like this (home defense), and it can’t take 500 rounds shot in this manner, I wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot poll. It’s clearly a piece of junk. It would eventually do the same thing under normal use, Kel-Tec just gets away with it since people buy them and don’t shoot them much.
@@Joe-hz1nwit’s a home defense gun. It doesn’t need to ever shoot 500 rounds..
@@Joe-hz1nw Who in gods name are you engaging where you're gonna be firing off 500 rounds of 3" Magnum? That sounds like it'd make the news.
It's an issue fairly easily fixed with a bit of loctite as well. If you can afford that much 3" Magnum you should be able to afford a tube of it.
This is the burndown I didn't know I needed. You're a good man.
The burn down i never knew i always wanted.
Saw a comment about standardized ammo testing these burn downs.
With all we jave seen with ammo choices over the last several years. This format is far more accurate than we want it to be. Cause I know over the last 2-3 years just finding 243, 30-30 and a pile of other calibers, were a nightmare to find.
Your shotgun may find itself in the same boat. Just eating whatever you were able to get your hands on.
Keep this format boys and we will come to watch you pump those 3 inchers 👍
I'd still prefer 2 3/4". I have sizing issues. 😅
I mean, the chamber does take 3".
So what's up with 30-30? Bought a lever gat from a friend, more a loan since he had a new child and was hurting. I thought 30-30 was an old-time and popular round? Damn that thing is expensive to shoot.
@@shalafi71 Just recently started reloading 30-30. For the longest time 9mm, 30-30 and 7.62x39 have been so reasonably priced that there was no motivation to reload them.
That isn't the case anymore. During the whole CooF 19 and installment of the vegetable in chief. The supply of a ton of rifle calibers were seriously unavailable. That has relaxed over the last 6+months. The prices haven't come back down from the shortage times though. So $25-$35 a box for 30-30 is the going rate. I would say get into reloading. Trouble with that is the components are overpriced.
@@mot0rhe4d40Wasn’t even better with the Orange fella. Hell, he shot down the Hearing Protection Act as well.
@@nfaisnfgay The Plan-demic had more to do with the ammo shortages than who was in office. Who is in office now certainly isn't helping.
I don't know if you can blame Trump for not getting the Hear Protection Act in. Both parties were blocking him at every turn.
But hey, let's get him back in, see what we can make happen. We know all the people we don't want in office. Do Not want him there. And that is a good thing.
If some people were thinking that a pump gun would be immune to the burndown, hehe, well... The most fascinating thing to me is that a $200 shotgun (Maverick 88) survived the burndown, whereas the KSG had a legit failure, even if it could continue to shoot.
James, much like a good majority of weapon systems out there this weapon does indeed require a level of maintenance not really well known. Simply the selector lever is held in place by a hex head screw and will over time walk itself out.
You can’t loctite it because it does need to move freely to actuate the tube selection. That being said I personally own one of these and do indeed following about every hundred rounds or maybe even fifty, take an Allen key and tighten it down.
The KSG just basically needs that level of care sir. Cheers.
This screw was a well known issue shortly after release, from what I remember it can accept thread locker and will reliably stop the screw walk out.
@@hollowdog9049yeah I’ve heard that, I guess I wasn’t comfortable putting a thread locker on something that’s like always moving but yeah that sounds like it will work.
Mine is threadlocked no issues in about a thousand rounds. Only thing I’ve done is greased when I clean the gun every few hundred rounds.
@@st4y_mad787thread lock will be on the threads in the gun. Not on the movable switch..
@@tymon995I’ll actually give that a shot then, I was just concerned if the screw has a significant level of torsion or pressure on it from the lever, that would cause the loctite to break free. But that’s worth a shot.
I would almost say to James re run the test, or take up where you left off with that in mind with the loctite or giving the screw a few spins after shooting 100.
I think the KSG can survive the test.
Once again the verdict remains, "Get a Mossberg." 😂
I'm curious to see how the M&P 12 would do now
Far worse.
I feel like SW got ripped off on some keltec licensing.
@@GTFBITK Say it ain't so, Joe. Say it ain't so. (sob)
Me too!
Might be the worst gun smith had made in a decade
Of all the gun channels I watch, yours is honestly my favorite. Your humor is what does it. Whether you're reviewing a gun or a facility, it's always entertaining. I love seeing these firearms tested to the point of failure. There are plenty of them out there, but some of the other channels are just dry. Thank you for the awesome content! Keep taking those 3 inchers!
Thanks Ryan and James for the great video.
Looks like a M-lok hand stop would be a welcome addition to the forend. Pretty interesting burn down, as only James can do.
KS7. Come on James, you know it makes sense to test it now.
I think you missed one of the biggest positives of this shotgun! It feeds and cycles reliably the mini shells as well! I have run Aguila slugs and buck through mine 100% reliably and get this. It holds 23 rounds of them😮 they shoot softer but pack plenty of punch. Making that combination an incredible home defense setup! Was so happy to see this review!
Mine doesn’t function at all with mini shells. It destroys the brass
Yes, I agree. I have mine loaded with minis, slugs in one tube and buck in the other. The KSG has not issues running them.
I use Aguilla's as well in my KSG Tactical, had 0 issues. As it's a shorter gun, it only holds 16+1, and I printed a Mlok holder for it that holds 5 more.
Well I guess I got a lemon. When I tried em it was peeling back the brass on each round as it was trying to chamber them
when I had mine it wouldn't run them and the extractor would over run the brass leaving a stuck shell in chamber. Honing the chamber made it run like a dream... for the piece of shit it was...
Disappointed it didn’t make it all the way, love that you’re still doing this series taking us to new heights as far as shotgun content goes here on CZcams as always we appreciate you and all the work you’re doing for us James. Can’t wait for the dp12.
Probably my favorite content you produce James. What a pleasant surprise!
2:58 Loading the KSG
3:51 First Shots
4:55 First Impressions
6:36 First Malfunction
7:58 3 Inchers
8:17 More Malfunctions
11:14 Switch Operators
12:13 Final Analysis
Remember 327 Federal Magnum is the best Snub Nose Revolver Cartridge! They fire 32 S&W Long which have zero recoil. Also shoots 32 H&R and 32 ACP. Plus you get Six Shots instead of Five!
Thanks, weird 327 Federal guy. I edited these slightly and made them the TOC for the video.
@@JamesReeves 'Firing 3" Magnums' very professional
@@JamesReeves I appreciate your enduring efforts to bring energy to the 2A community. You are a legendary figure in the firearms industry and one to be admired.
I respect your crusade and your cause I wish you luck .327 federal man
Always been a fan of 327 magnum. Wish it had caught on more.
1:39 James you can't hide the joy in your voice over the fact you're gonna beat up a Keltec 😂
The failure to feed was probably the plastic follower folding over due to being slightly overloaded. The slightly longer European shells press the spring and follower over. It does the same thing if you load it to capacity with mini shells.
How have I just now discovered this gem of a channel? Better late than never, I guess.
I think kel-tec quality has vastly improved over the pass 10 15 years and their innovation is as james said is second to none.
Today's episode of "why the maverick 88 is the best $200 you can spend", featuring our buddies at Kel Tec. Indeed "that's an F", not just the grade of the shotgun but respects paid to the shoulders that endured 3" magnums to test the gun.
Mav 88 is even more evidence that "keep it simple, stupid" is the best rule of all.
Exactly, the Mav88 is the only consideration for a budget shotgun. why anyone would choose anything else is a testament to the power of marketing and gimmicky crap.
@@stevem4783I'm more of a keep it stupid, simple.
American shotguns: "Wow.. did you see that..? KSG couldnt make it 500rds!"
Chinese Shotguns: "Ho Lee Chit!"
Turkish shotguns: "Hold my f_ckin' beer.. let me show you what's up"
Hahahaha they haven’t been $200 bucks for 5+ years dude Lol 😂 on average, they’re $299+
These videos always brighten up my day. Keep on keepin on with the hot content.
Now for the S&W Kel-tec Clone Bullpump!
Its such a shame Kel-Tec doesnt have a premium line where they take their range toys with excellent design concepts and actually turn them into real guns that work.
They do. It's called Smith and Wesson 😂
They do. It's called Smith and Wesson.
What you’re seeing now is their supposed “premium line”. There isn’t a single professional law enforcement or military agency that runs Kel-Tec or any serious competitive shooter either. These are range toys at best and should never be trusted as life support gear. Kel-Tec is shit no matter what anyone else tells you including CZcams influencers.
They do. It’s called smith and wesson
I’m sorry that you guys all think Smith and Wesson is premium
6:39 It's funny how a "*click* no bang" is always louder than *bang*. 9:22 the music editing is superb
TAVOR TS12!!! Awesome content, keep it up! Best channel on CZcams for years.
I bought a KS7 last year. I took the carry handle off and installed a rail and a set of Magpul MBUS Pro sights, a bright red aluminum shell follower, a steel trigger and trigger spring kit from MCARBO and it is an extremely reliable ass kicking shotgun.
how's the recoil impulse? i've held one and it was super light
I have fired two and three quarter and three inch shell's out of it, slugs and 00 buckshot, and to me the recoil is no worse than if i am firing my 870. I am six feet two inches tall and around two hundred pounds. Hope this helps.@@hakjobtm7472
2 3/4" are a bit brutal. Its a very light shotgun. But I've found the 1 3/4" defensive loads are pleasant to shoot. @@hakjobtm7472
It’s the KS7 the shotgun EVERY other major gun CZcams channel had issues with? If I remember correctly iraqwarvet for sure had a scathing review of it.
Not to say it hasn’t changed, but it was widely regarded as the worst of the two not long ago.
I love my KSG. I have a muzzle brake, vertical fore grip and a big cushy butt pad for more comfortable shooting. I also have the extended tube selector so you can switch tubes with your wrist and not take the gun off target (should be standard).
It shoots everything, but load it with mini-shells and you get about 20 rounds of soft shooting fun and joy. I had a malfunction at around 200 rounds, an odd double feed that might be due to pumping too fast (an issue I have often in many areas of life). I'm looking forward to my next day of Shotguns Therapy.
I run more or less the same setup with some purple loctite on the selector screw, and a choke adapter instead of a brake. The only reliability issues I've seen is with low brass
I have a very similar setup, just make sure you get the aluminum lower rail if you put a vertical foregrip on, or you run the risk of breaking the plastic rail off the bottom rail.
@@matts1166Should I just run it until I break the rail? It's pretty far down the list in home defense and mostly range toy.
@@tonkashouse Mine's mostly a range toy too. The problem is that they mostly break on the FORWARD push, which when you combine it with the shortness of the KSG means you just pushed a shell into the chamber, your hand went in front of the barrel, and you were ready to fire.... The aluminum rail is only like $20 and takes 2 minutes to install. When you paid $850 for the gun I'd pay the extra to be safe.
Love you Buddy. Keep up the GREAT content.
Thank you very much! I've been extremely curious about the KSG durability, and this answers that question.
I do love my other Kel-tec firearms (the RDB-S) is my favorite 5.56 bullpup, and the PLR-16 is a ludicrous but great backpack gun. But i've had concerns with certain aspects of the KSG design given the stresses of a pump action on some of the failure points that are unique to the KSG.
If course... this now begs the question as to whether the ks7 solves this problem by not having offset magazines but losing the main benefit of the ksg.
Extremely useful video!
Disappointing. Over 8 years since my own KSG video showed this to be a jamming unreliable shotgun. Still isn't resolved. Thanks for the upload, James and Ryan.
Dynamic anecdote, bro!
@@t44e6a common failing that's been known from the beginning.
And people are blaming you in your comments of your video saying they fire thousands of rounds no failures wtf
@@Seth9809 And yet they never have uploads of their own proving they actually own a KSG and that it can cycle both tubes without issue.
@@RageQuit003if you buy me the ammo, I’ll make the video lol. I guess I’m just one of the lucky ones that got a reliable KSG, but I’m also not going to spend $250 to prove it to strangers online 😂
I love mine. It did have a failure when it was new. But i sent it in for warranty and came back quickly and has been great since. Part of the linkage mechanism broke but on further investigation it seems mine had an older style linkage. When i got it back it has an upgraded linkage assembly. I also polished a couple parts which made it smoother and its been great since.
I agree. The use case of each gun is different.
@@roundrock63 thats why i wanted to include my own experience. Many gun reviewers will say "this is a sample size of 1" good or bad they get a single one to try. Everything made can have lemons. Mine has never had the selector switch problem they had. I have had it puke an extra round out but its rare and random. I've had a double feed once or twice which really f's things up but it's fixable without any tools or special tricks. In my research and experience the ksg likes to be well lubed and man handled. It can be dirty but it shouldn't be dry and you gotta rack the thing with authority. Every time it's racked you're depressing both shell catches which uses a piece of spring steel in the system. That takes some effort to do and thats the area i polished a little bit and then used a synthetic grease instead of oil. It smoothed it out a good bit. It also benefits from being broken in as the shell tubes new felt gritty and somewhat tough to load shells. But now that i have a few hundred through it the black coating has smoothed out and now everything just works a little better. The fix they did was a top notch upgrade. The linkage bars going from the trigger to the hammer resemble a pair of ladder rungs. Original design had the ends of the cross pins center punched to mushroom them out and retain the link bars. Mine managed to unmushroom one end of a pin allowing the link bar to come off and dick it all up. The new one has the cross pins tig welded to the link bars completely eliminating that from happening again.
Thanks James. Good job. I think shotgun burn downs are pretty useful videos for those of us that need to watch where our $s go.
Love you and your videos James !!!
The only failures Ive had is carbon buildup and lack of lubrication. Ive got no less than 3k rounds thru mine. Im not saying its a Benelli but its been reliable for myself. Thanks for the vid James.
That’s the problem with the brand. You buy a gun and have to cross your fingers that it’s not a turd
Yeah not sure I've made it through that much ammo but it's been trucking along... As long as you feed 3" into it 😅
Are you shooting dozens or hundreds of rounds same-day? That's the point of the burndown
I’ve only got a few hundred rounds through mine but never had a problem out of it. Gotta rack it like a Man cause if you kissy foot with it than it won’t cycle/rack properly but if you rack it like you’ve gotta pair it seems fine. Definitely wouldn’t be my choice of 12ga in a world goes to shit scenario but they’re not a horrible option
Yeah there's something wrong with the quality control. Most KS7s have to be sent back for light primer strikes. Inexcusable but George Kelgein is a genius so I don't totally shit on the brand.
I've got a couple of thousand rounds through mine and no issues. I did replace the plastic followers with some aluminum followers when I first purchased the gun. I also added an extended lever to switch between tubes so you can use your wrist to switch tubes.
did that fix the loading issues? mines fails to load after a few rounds.
@@Cervo753 I’ve never really had an issue that wasn’t caused by me failing to pump the action hard and fast. Don’t treat like a toy because it is small. Pump it like you mean it.
@@Pappy7064I even got a metal rail so I attach a proper fore grip and not worry about braking the plastic. Mine loads a few times and then fails. I switch the selector, and sometimes that fixes it but most of the time the ksg sits in the back of the safe due to reliability issues. I’d be happy to sell it to you
@@necroimages don’t need it mine works perfectly with mini shells and 2 3/4” shells. Call Keltec they will fix it for you.
love the content man, thanks and keep it up. happy 2024 to ya!
Maverick 88 really putting the smack down on all these pumps
DP12 burndown when?
Would like to see if it's more than just a meme gun
My dp12 has been good. I have had two failures to extract which I blame on cheap ammo. The failures scared the hell out of me because of the price I paid for the gun, and also the double tube double barrel design means that everything is jammed up by one failure to extract. So I recommend decent quality ammo and rack it hard.
I was hoping it was going to make because I do love the design. They need to make a semi auto version even if it cost more and just use better materials
Thanks for showing this before I decided to buy one
The music start/stoping it top tier
Maybe if Kel-Tec didn’t spend their entire budget on crack for the R&D department, they could afford to spend a little more in the QC department.
Friends don’t let friends buy KelTecs. 😁
Agreed
Why😭
@@britt8281 They are junk like HiPoint, Skyy & Taurus. 😁
Bought a brand new KSG the other week, put a 100rds of heavy loads through it yesterday. Ran like a champ no issues.
I've got seven hundred rounds through my TS12 so far.
Loves high power loads, only so-so on trap loads but that's to be expected.
I like having 16 rounds on tap.
If you ever test the TS12, it will love the heavy crap.
Just over 1000 rounds on mine and it's still my favorite shotgun of all time. Trap loads run fine in mine on low gas. In fact, my wife ran it the last shotgun match we had and used trap loads the whole time with no issues.
any of yall have a list of compatible muzzle devices for ts12? lol halp.
@@majinreincarnated3167 It takes beretta/benelli mobil chokes
More moving parts= more possible breaks. Hard to beat a conventional pump shotgun.
Still a very cool design.
I was hung up on buying the KSG or just buying more ammo. Thanks for clearing that up for me. LOVE these shotgun burndowns!!!
I’m glad you plan on doing the stoeger. Best videos on the tube.
Kel tec has successfully made the worlds first self healing shotgun! Oops spoke too soon lol
That's about the quality/reliability I would expect from kel-tek. Consistently works most of the time, then breaks. Brilliant ideas off brand Fischer Price levels of execution.
I agree. I had a PMR-30. Great idea, but substandard matetials. Needs redesign of magazine to improve reliability of feeding and gun materials are weak.
@@allen_p Gods the PMR-30 should be a great pistol. Light, 30-rounds of .22 with extra ass, great controls, rockin' sights (for day or night), much love. I just can't trust it as a carry weapon. Getting through 2 mags without at least one FTE is a joyous day! All you gotta do is pull the slide and give a quick shake, back in business, but I just can't trust it. It's still my main hiking in the boondocks gun. Again, light, plenty of capacity.
I respect kel tec a lot for actual innovation
Ohhhhh! Yes! This will be interesting. It was the shotgun I was thinking about getting before getting my 1301, largely based on your reviews of the Beretta and videos from Thunder Ranch.
Love these videos
my ksg has gone through over 1k with no problems. so far its fed 50 mini shells as well. i'm hoping to hand load minis to make them more affordable for more testing
I'm happy to hear you're going to do the Stoeger M3000. I've had the tactical model for awhile now and I LOVE it. I personally think it's the best budget tactical shotgun ($700) money can buy but I'm very curious if it will survive
$700? I paid roughly $450 for mine, used, but never fired. Agreed though, it's been great and runs shot for shot with my buddy's M4.
I won a turkey hunting model with a badass cerakote job a couple years back from a raffle. It's been my go to ever since. I like it better than my Franchi!
I bought the m3k version with a 13 round extension tube at a pawn shop, I have NEVER had a malfunction even with light Wallmart loads, best Turkish gun out there, I’ve been begging James to do a burn down. I don’t want any false hope.
Mine is a POS. First day at a training class the plastic rear ghost ring sight broke. Front sight threw out the fiber optic insert and the bolt release came loose after 200 rounds. It seems to run ok but it’s useless without sights.
@@darkknightdiesel1688 Is the reciever a drilled and tapped model? I thought most of them were
Nice Rakija reference. You truly are a renaissance man.
I've had mine about 5 years and love it. It doesn't like to feed low brass but once I figured out the high/low thing it runs great.
I really like Kel-Tec, and have had a couple of their firearms. I still have the Kel-Tec 2000 in .40 with the Glock magazine. I love it. It has never failed me. Saying that, I do not think I would want to depend on this firearm for my self defense. Thanks for your efforts.
It's definitely a cool system. I've always looked at more parts= the more things that can go wrong.
The Yankee Marshal strongly dislikes Kel Tecs. 🚫 By the way Kel Tec weapons are made, Cocoa FL.
@@DavidLLambertmobileI don't know what that has to do with my comment but hey, it helps the algorithm 😅
James I'm always happy to lend a shoulder to help test.
I appreciate that you actually read the comments. I understand how stupid some of the stuff you'll see in here is.
Thanks for sacrificing your shoulder so that we don't have to. These shotgun videos are the best 👌
Thanks for the tip!
When I reviewed the KSG over a decade ago, one thing that was immediately apparent is it needed a hand stop.
Since then at least one KSG user injured themselves running the gun fast. I don’t know what the outcome of that lawsuit is.
But you can see they addressed it with the KS-7 and the new .410 model.
They should upgrade the fore end on the KSG too.
Btw mine broke at 800 rounds. I sent it in for repair then sold it.
what broke on it? was it the plastic rails? there's a company called Hitech that makes a reinforced aluminum billet rail upgrade for it, supposed to make it much less likely to break the FG off, especially if you use a VFG. I just ordered one for mine, hopefully it turns out to be worth investment.
If these were out in my 20’s I’d have one.
I started with a Mossberg 590 (those Marine ads got me)
Fell in love with the Rem 870 in police work.
Had Beretta and Benelli riot guns but swear by the VEPR-12 for high cap semiautomatic goodness!💋
Damn. Cool concept
James, thank you for putting your shoulder through this for us lmao.
The KSG is highly prone to short-shucking, especially when using 3" shells. Put a Magpul XTM Handstop kit on the fore end, with the bigger stop on the front of the gun, it's perfect. 900 rds through mine without a cleaning, another 500 since, not a single issue besides the occasional short shuck. Friend wanted to buy it, and he's put another 300 through without issue. Got the lucky gun, I guess.
Edit: Oh, the only other thing I changed on mine, before I ever shot mine, I heard that the factory plastic magazine tube followers are prone to sticking, so I bought some stainless steel or aluminum ones. Can't remember who made them. Not M*Carbo. I thought KNS, but not sure. They're nice and were (at the time) relatively cheap.
I'm not going to lie. Broke my heart a little.
Great video, proving once again that many times in life, you do get what you pay for...
I have a love hate relationship with my KSG… mine has been pretty reliable. It’s kind of picky on what it’ll eat, but once you find one it likes, it’s mostly reliable. I say mostly because everyone I know has one or two different issues, but none are similar with respect to our sample size of 7 KSGs. Which leads me to believe the real issue is quality control at the factory. One thing I would recommend would be to use a vertical grip or at least a hand stop. There have been plenty of documented cases where people have turned their hand into hamburger using this blaster.
Same with my RFB it's insanely picky, any switch in ammo brand usually requires adjusting the gas setting or it gets constant malfunctions. I stick to my reloads in it and don't usually have issues. It's a great gun for deer hunting especially in small stands.
manufacturer QA/QC is always what gets you.
@@redtra236 the last time I hunted deer I was a Pennsylvania resident. It still blows my mind to think I can use a semi auto for deer now that I’m in Texas. LOL
@@DocTango Yeah some states are more strict I live in Missouri so I can use any center fire rifle. It's illegal to use a mag that holds more than 10 rounds in a semi auto gun for most game animals though and all birds other than snow geese and crows are 2+1 limit(even non-waterfowl). Iirc PA has a lower capacity limit and only allows straight walled cartridges in rifles but the laws might have changed.
I was kind of interested in picking one of these up since the price had dropped a little...after this I think I'll look at something else.
I have been waiting to see this one thanks personally
Ahhh, yes!. Quality content as for usual love this vids!. Are there any more obscure shotguns that you can find and burn them to the ground?.
Excellent video… can’t say the results surprise me, but I’m glad you actually did the test. 👍
Please do the smith and wesson bullpup shotgun
One of my favorite owned shotguns, mine has about 600-700 rounds through it(mostly target and bird shot, some slugs) it also had feed issues at times. All said, this burn down is a fair example of its capabilities and flaws
Love the burn down videos
This is why you’re a legend, James
I lerve THE SHOTGUN burn downs.
Man I wanted this little Shotgun to do good. I don't have one because I like my Beretta but I have always thought it was a cool looking little Scatter Gun. Thank you for doing this Test. 👍🏻
The honesty is what I love. Keltecs look cool as hell but we all know reliability is not their strong suit.
Damn I'm sad about it breaking. I think I put over 1k shells through my first one. My second one has been great, too.
I'm in the same boat, I have a 2015 one and I'm questioning my loyalty 😂
Maybe its the magnums
I actually haven't had any problems with mine. Maybe I'm just lucky. But, it has worked perfectly for me.
@TheCheetp Haha right! The only dud I had was a RFB that thing was terrible.
Yeah man, can’t leave the ksg stock… needs a few tweaks n butter
The KSG must really hate those european rounds, its spitting them out
I look forward to these reviews and they DO NOT disappoint…outstanding work James👍(feel sorry for your shoulder 🫤)
Actually funny asf. I was just interested in buying one of these. Thanks James, JD
James takin’ 3” like a champ. Turn about is fair play 😂
KSG is that one wacky goth girlfriend who might be different, might have her issues yet she is always tons of fun. I am sad that KSG failed, yet still love mine more than both my benelli m4 and 1301.
I thought James was going to throw that defective item in the trash 🗑. Great video as always 👍🏻
Thank you.
Man that was so sad to see, hope you revisit this one in the future.
Just in time for lunch time, I can watch James burn a shotgun faster I can burn my pasta. #lovefromitaly
My shoulder wouldn’t survive this test.
Well she ran as i aspected a Keltec to run. Thanks for another awesome video
Something I've been seriously thinking about getting... This will make a difference
Well it's a no
I know people ask you all the time, but I’d love to see you run the KSG in one of these burn downs.
huh?