This Might Be The Only Speaker You Need! Paradigm Founder 120H Audiophile Speaker Review
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- Best High-End Audiophile speakers that has room correction but also allows you to fine tune things using your own Audiophile amplifiers for the ultimate hi-fi experience in your home? Yes please !
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Glossiest or most glossy, pls.
12:58 Could you please explain how can a tube amplifier provide wider dispersion characteristic?
welp, think I finally found my speakers. these are exactly what I'm looking for. and thankfully they're not made in communist china. really like the fact that I wont need to spend a lot on powerful amps. thats a win/win!. so how much power should I give them. thanks for helping end my never-ending speaker search
I love the gloss finish! It’s beautiful!!
I just got my 120Hs thanks to this informative review. Paired it up with the Peachtree PreDAC/GAN400 stack. Had the opportunity to compare my rig with my buddy's' KEF Blades/Diavalet rig and a B&W 801D4/PASS Labs. Especially considering my rig was fully 1/4 the price of the other two, my 120Hs cooked and ate those other speakers. They are truly musical wizardry.
I was seriously considering stretching my budget to get the KEF blades. They were seriously the most transformative speakers I had heard.... until I heard the paradigms this weekend. I will be purchasing these for sure. I think you made a great choice.
any advice Please , Do I need to buy two REL S812 to my Founder 120H stereo ? Thank you.
( actually I have 5.2 system two 15'' REL HT series , and somewhere on the way truck with new speakers pair of 120H ,90C, and pair 80F for surround , using processor Anthem AVM-70, Anthem 525 -2Gen. Amp.)
Bought these used for well under half price a few weeks ago. They are absolutely outstanding! So balanced full range dynamic amazing midrange. Want a speaker that will play any genre with aplomb this is your dude! Best speaker I’ve had and I’ve had maybe hmm 25-30 I think? Some with a higher Msrp. I normally find the higher priced speakers suck for rock/metal. These are the KINGS for that type of music.
I'm planning on the 120H's as a housewarming/Christmas gift. Appreciate the review!
Hi Jay, love your videos. I just wanted to point out that Definitive Technologies have had this design philosophy for over a decade already. I'm also Canadian and I'm really pleased that paradigm has adopted this design. Thanks for bringing this speaker information to all of us. Cheers, Kelly.
Thanks for the heads up. If they replicate definitive mean 2 things. 1 overprice, 2 terrible sound for return value.
I won't give in to upgradeitis...I won't give in to upgradeitii...I won't give in to upgradeitis...
You just jinxed yourself.
As always, your review is thoughtful, detailed, and listening to you is a pleasure. Paradigm should deeply thank you for this one. I am going to listen to a pair mostly because of this review. I look forward to your work in the future. Stay joyful.
OMG! Its my desert island speaker! Thank you SO much for reviewing these!
About 1983. I purchased a pair of Paradigm bookshelf speakers from Bay Bloor Radio in TO. They were excellent value for money.
I heard these as they launched with a Unison Research Sinfonia, and it's still the best combination I've listened to, and currently still my dream system at a realistic budget.
Your room is looking really great. ✌️ It’s come a long way.
I too have seen their facilities in Mississauga - very impressive.
Sound like impressive speakers! Drop dead gorgeous imo
The best speakers are the ones which make you want to listen to more music regardless of looks, specs and price point.
Great review. I can see this will be a hit with the vacuum tube amp crowd. Powering just the mids and highs directly is an easy job for the lower power class "A" tube amps. Solid state power for the lows "built right in" is a really good idea. Looks like you have some mono blocks with 4-250's? In my tube stock, I have maybe 50 of those. Great tubes for the broadcast transmitters I have worked on. Have a great day!
Done by Albert Von Schweikert RIP Albert in his DB-99 loudspeakers have you ever tried those?
Thanks Jay! I've been waiting to hear what you thought of the floorstanders since your review of the bookshelves. The 40Bs sounded great at Axpona paired with a sub and an Anthem amp with room correction. It's easy to see why you spoke so highly of them!
I also heard the 40Bs at Axpona, and thought the sub was definitely overshadowing what those beautiful stand mount speakers could potentially do on their own. I was really wanting to hear them without the sub, but didn't want to be rude and request that with a room full of listeners!
I have the 120H’s & also the 90c being pushed by an Anthem MRX 1140 - I’m blown away at the performance and how they fill up my space. I’ll be upgrading my sub to the XR13 later this year.
I've heard that same setup with the XR11 and it's awesome. You'll really enjoy the XR13!
I have a set of these being built in Martin Logan walnut. Paradigm offers a great custom service. Thanks for the review.
Greetings Jay, first class detailed translation of a beautiful design speaker. Hopefully I will have the pleasure of listening to a pair over here in the UK. I heard a pair of GoldenAir T66 that blew me away in a very large room & if these speakers are anything like the GA T66 they must be magnificent. I'll wait until I can demo the Paradigm so I can chose which suits my multi style of music. Once again I very much enjoy your passionate deliberation. Peace out ...👊🏾🇯🇲🇬🇧
The bookshelf version of these have been on my short list for a while now, along with the PSB Synchrony B600.
Look forward to being able to try them out one day.
Paradigm speakers are great. I had a pair of Studio 20's like 13 years ago. They were amazing for the size and money
I still love my Paradigm Reference Studio/100 Loudspeakers i purchased new in 1998 for just under 2K...
I still use a pair of S20 v.4's in my second system, upgraded with Paradigm Beryllium tweeters, great sound.
Beautiful listening room. I just bought a pair of Infinity IRS Betas to replace my v1 S8's. The S8 will be used for center channel on a 12' screen. I collect and restore antique radios and it amazes me that the fundamental design of the dynamic speaker has not changed since the early 30's but the resultant sound sure has! I am a fan of ribbon drivers the best I have ever heard was a pair of Apogee Divas powered by big Krell MDA series amps. I would love to hear what Paradigm has to offer these days. The dealer in Syracuse has gone out of business after over 100 years.
I was considering the 80f's but I decided to add dual 8" subs to my BRX'S and that has reduced the nulls of my room to a minimum and the improvements are amazing. The 100h are a big step up but think I've got 8 to 9 tenths the sound for less than a third the 100h price.
I have the BRX's too with two 15inch subs... amazing!
"8-in sub" is an oxymoron
The room correction only works from 15hz-400hz so it wont change the character of the speaker but helps tune to the room. The soundstage on the 120h is deeper, wider and higher than the 40b bookshelf. If you want to alter the bass leve or impactl you can do that in the arc software but in a very accurate subtle way.
Since the early 1980's for Paradigm .
Hi Jay, great review as always. What are your thoughts on this speaker against the arendal 1723 towers. Thanks
I use amp with volume control for mid tweeter side on my Meggy and you could control brightness or too much bass. This way most of the music could be fixed to your liking.
Go Jay! with Paradigm and RBH I would agree. learned that from Audioholics. I would send anyone to this guy too. Gene is dyed in the wool professional. Give him a shout.
It is a very interesting speakers with built in ARC. Would love to watch your review on Anthem STR preamp or STR integrated amp with the ARC too. A speakers with ARC VS Preamp with ARC.
I hope you’ll be able to review the KLH model 7 and the kef r11 or r7 metas this year
I just tested these against Revel F228Be's with Hegel H590. The Revels sound very rounded, diffuse and soft in comparison, but the FR is much smoother especially in the highs, but the 120H is much more gripping, dynamic and clear sounding. The Revels sounded bigger, wider and deeper while the Paradigms had much more clarity and separation in the image while having relatively big soundstage as well. The bass wasn't yet DSP'd, but it was far better regardless. Neither was perfect and surely both are preferred by different people.
any Advice Please , Do I need to buy two REL S812 to my Founder 120H stereo ? Thank you.
( actually I have 5.2 system two 15'' REL HT series , and somewhere on the way truck with new speakers pair of 120H ,90C, and pair 80F for surround , using processor Anthem AVM-70, Anthem 525 -2Gen. Amp.)
These are in my dream speaker category - haven’t had a chance to hear them, but really appreciate the detailed review. I think the walnut looks beautiful.
Thanks for the review!
1 note: you CAN increase the bass and maintain correction if you are a bass head. In the ARC software you can bump up "room gain" by 1.5db for some extra oomph. I think it's in pro settings.
Otherwise I totally agree and that's why I own a pair now!
1.5db? Bass heads need like a +6db boost starting at 60hz and maxing out at 40hz... Between that and maybe 50hz/30hz.
Vandersteen has been using powered bass with eq for 20 years with upper models,it is a great solution .
I love Vandersteen speakers. Even their cheaper non powered units sound great to my ears. I haven’t heard the new carbon models. I can only imagine how great they are
Von Schweikert also.
Nice I have the Founders 80
I have the Founder 100F with JL sub. The 100F are the sweet spot in the Founder line-up with less technology to go wrong later. The 100F are also easier to move around and set-up. The 120’s are an interesting speaker though with lots of built in bass.
I attended the Axpona 2022 show and Paradigm was debuting the 120H’s. I stopped in the room only because it was the next room to go into in the hallway and had no idea that the 120H’s existed. I was blown away. It was my favorite speaker at the show. The $8k price made them quite difficult to get but they sounded so fantastic to me. One day though, I’m hoping that I can call the Paradigm 120H towers my own.
I listened to the 100H for a while and found they had a resonance in the high frequencys. Once i heard it I could not unhear it so to speak. I would like to see someone do a sweep and see if they are storing up energy and ringning or if the set i heard were in some way defective. other than that one issue I was quite impressed with the speakers overall at the price point.
Bro speakers are a wild world for instance I’ve tried so many different brands and everyday I’ve found another new brands with heritage in history!! But as a humble 15 years into audio I’ve found that Danish speakers are the best sounding ( personal experience) My advice to anyone who pursuits the pleasure of speakers purely sounding is to try out this brand ( Dantax) Trust me These people building a magic and not just a handmade in house speakers factory, check their drivers, designs ,wooden cabinets ,crossover platform , Its a ROLEX in speakers and they are handling most of amplifiers , try TD6 series and you’ll blame your self why you never know about this brand earlier ❤❤❤
are you planning on a review of gr research speakers you heard in TX?
My brother owns the Founder 80F and they are probably the best speakers I've ever heard in the sub $10000 price range. I suspect the 120H are just more of the good stuff.
The 80f's are great speakers!
They are in another league entirely.
And they have distributors and dealership networks for any problems that inevitably occur.
Great speakers at a very very competitive price tag.
Hey Jay.
Compared to the Buchardt S400 mk2…..ignoring bass, would you say this has better or worse midrange and treble?
Thanks Jay!!
I own these speakers. They compare with $15,000 to $20,000 speakers.
Jay did you try a Dynaco Stereo 70 with the upper end?
Thanks for the info Jay! I wonder how these compare to GoldenEar Triton One R? They're also developed in Canada, and slightly cheaper. Also hybrid amplification. I have the Three's, and was considering an upgrade to the Triton 2+.
Hey. I have owned GoldenEar 3+, 2+, TRef, and now now the 1R’s. My two cents: the 2+ are the best bang for the buck. I did get the 1R pretty cheap and there is a slight and subtle upgrade, but man you can get the 2+ so cheap now that it’s a no brainer. They were the best sounding in my room if all the GE. More similar than different really. That said Im seriously pondering the Paradigm 100F or the 120F.
Nice one..
While very different design , what do you think the comparison would be compared to Goldenear reference towers? Similar in hybrid design minus the DSP. Also what are pro/cons if a person is running these through a dsp on the processor (ex dirac). Great vid!
I have the 100F… mainly for 2 raisons… first… I do not like to have an amp in the tower… what a mess if anything going bad in the future… and I prefer a external sub that I can move and set at the best place in the room… otherwise, the 100 and 120 are almost the same!
do those 3 bass drivers churn out the same frequency? or they work like stacked rels?
Hey Jay if you had too pick between these founders or martin xt f100, kef r11meta, jbl jdl 3800 or arendal 1723 which one would you choose thank's
Just bought the Paradigm 80f. Smaller version but for smaller areas but incredible
hi sir may i ask how big is your room for the 80f i wonder my room is 12 x15
thank you
I had the Prestige with the gorgeous midnight finish… so beautiful… but never again… almost impossible to keep perfectly clean as the dust becomes so apparent… and if somebody decides to « rag » the dust… small scatches appears… I went to wood finish!
Jay, thanks for the video. I would appreciate your input if possible. I have a pair of Sonus Faber Venere 2.5's which I am thinking of replacing. What would be a good choice you think: Audio Vector QR 3, Kef R5 Meta, or Paradigm Founder 80F? Also, do you think they would a significant improvement to what I have? Cheers.
Kind of hard to give you a choice based on speaker list alone. I would need much more information like room size, music taste etc but I I'll say that all the listed will be an upgrade to the Venere 2.5s. I heard those speakers when they came into consignment (where I used to work) and they were just OK, a bit dark sounding with many of the gear.
I'm curious how the 100F speakers match up against the R11 Meta from Kef? However, the fact they are built in Canada is a definite two thumbs up!
The R11 Meta are overrated...like everything from KEF.
ARE THEY BETTER THEN THE ARENDAL 1723 ..
The waveguide is a copy of KEF's coupled tangerine compression fins which had already been preparing for it by using a dual diaphragm design to equalise the dome to allow it to couple with the acoustics lens.
The acoustics waveguide is the same shape and geometry as the grill to the XQ and IQ series. That'd interesting. I didn't even know that was a feature.
The reason why suddenly uni qs are seen everywhere is because KEF's original patent expired from the 80s. So they reverse engineered their patent and now it works from every direction so even the rear, baffle, and surround are acoustically active.
The Uni Qs are an optimised you can cover up the tweeter and it won't even change the sound. The sound comes from the Z flex and the array around the tweeter and is always presented as a single point of sound merged before it arrives to your ears. Then the port is designed not for boosting bass but to perform as if the sleeker were in an ideal chamber which is pressurised so that the port can blast the room to override it with the sound you'd hear if you had perfect room acoustics. Having perfect room acoustics is impossible so they tuned their port to vanish the rear of the room so the vanishing act doesn't only happen in front and there isn't just a phantom center but phantom surrounds and heights.
Jay, you were enthusiastic about the Arendal THX 1723. How does Arendal's performance compare to the Paradigm Founder series?
Arendals are exceptional for that price however the experience will vary depending on the amplification because everything is passive. Meaning, if you want robust bass and also tube's soundstage, you will have to do heavy research to find something like that (and tube amps with robust bass and nice balance can be expensive) but imagine it with powered DSP controlled bass drivers with passive mid and tweeter that you can pair up with a silky sounding tube amplifier without having to worry about the bass performance + PPA lenses to even better the focus/imaging... Can the Adrenals be as good or even better? Yes, with really good gear or bi-amping perhaps. Hope that answers your question.
Hi guys. I know Jay will not advise on the sounds off is creation (Typhoon). Since they are the same price range. Anyone has heard both of them and could advise which one they preferred.
Can it get better than this? You ask Jay, referring to Paradigm 120H, the answer is absolutely. I've auditioned the 120h. It's a dynamic speaker, with great bass, good midrange, very good treble extension, but so-so Soundstage and imaging. Paradigms own Persona line runs circles around the Founder series, the Persona 3f is superior in every way (except bass & dynamic impact) to the 120h. For anyone interested in buying the 120h, I say, checkout the Persona 3f with an additional subwoofer for below 40hz, and you will be blown away.
Beryllium drivers in the Persona's!
@@chadrobinson7234 so overrated I'd take a ribbon over beryllium any day of the week . I never understood the infatuation with those tweeters
I have heard the persona 3f speakers ,..wow….just wow ,
Relation price/ quality is off the roof .
Never heard this founder 120h !
Yes Alsyvox best speaker I've ever heard ;-)
That is a beautiful speaker. Is it just correcting the bass? Not sure for that would work for the passive mid and tweeter.
even if it is just correcting for the bass, it still affects mid and high perception. It is actually a misconception that changing a specific frequency doesn't affect the rest.
@@Jayiyagi totally agree. The bass is almost always an issue in traditional rooms. I was just curious if it had some magic in it to actually adjust the passive crossover for the mids and highs that’s all, great video. Thanks Jay.
@@Jayiyagi Yes very true. I found that even adding a super tweeter affected the entire overall sound, even the bass at 100 Hz ( maybe harmonics?)
Wpuld these be an upgrade from b&w 803D3 ?
So, Paradigm has been scientifically honing their craft for over 40 years. While other transducer manufacturers claim a certain 'sound' that makes their products special, Paradigm consistently rebuffs that line of thinking with products that showcase THE sound, not THEIR sound. As a matter of fact, many reviewers have come to expect that certain brands will sound a certain way and are a bit put off by the lack of character of Paradigm speakers.
The ARC (room correction) software is only applied to the active (bass) section. The mid and tweeter are straight-through from your amplifier, so they do not have correction applied to them. It is recommended by Paradigm to use the in-speaker ARC before running room correction applied upstream by your receiver or processor.
The PPA lens is... interesting. While visually stunning, it may not have such a meaningful impact on upper-range phase alignment as phase changes with frequency. A device like the PPA lens can really only have an effect on an extremely narrow frequency band. So, to say that it has an overall effect on the high-frequency drivers is a bit inaccurate. Don't get me wrong, for the money, Paradigm's have imaging in spades, nothing short of incredible.
As far as the finish being too glossy. The Founders 120H is a high-end piece of gear and it lets you know just by looking at it. It is, however, not obnoxiously demanding of your visual cortex as some other brands that make you question what it is that you are looking at (Wilson Audio comes to mind). When I am purchasing speakers, I want to hear art, not see it. Anyway, these speakers belong in your listening room, not home theater - where lighting (and reflection) is paramount.
So you're claiming that their specific PPA lens doesn't do what they says it does without providing any data or proof? Cool. Cool.
Do they test @ the NRC ?
has J tried large ATC speakers yet?? maybe after SCM100 he may change his viewpoint
These are in the sweet spot of probably the best speaker most of us have heard at a price though high is doable for most folks if you really wanted .
How would a Vincent audio hybrid sound on these
Best speakers I have ever listen to was VAF signature I93MKIII I have owned both aperion speakers and paradigm signature series speakers. Nothing has come close to the VAF. Especially the base it can produce during watching movies
Bough paradigm prestige 75f in 2018, it is driven by accuphase e-380 in a pure vinyl system, the deck is Yamaha gt-2000. Paradigm is not popular among vinyl aficionados in this part of the world but to my ears the 75f sound correct. I auditioned proac, dynaudio, Harbeth and b&w but none sound clean and dynamic.
I think it is time to audition founder series.
Where is your buddy you film with?
These versus nova 2s?
Still rockin' my circa 2002 Studio 100 V2, and just added a CC690 about two years ago. Servo-15 is also still kickin'. Man, what an investment. I can't tell you just how many movie hours the family has enjoyed thanks to Paradigm. My poor AVM20 is just sitting in my closet not worth $200. I look forward to finally upgrading one day in the future when the need arises.
Did you review the martin logan motion xt f100 s yet?
nope not yet
I’m starting a (downsizing) new house build and I’m losing my media room a few years to the kids here at the new one. I am currently getting ideas for new speakers that will make the other half happy since they will b😢going in our living room and need to be able to do a good job with TV in stereo so I’m worried that if I choose the Midnight Cherry finish that I will not be able to take my eyes off of these and forget there is a TV in the room. Anyone else have a problem like this?
Beautiful speakers. I bet they sound fantastic. But dropping 9k I'd be worried all the time about the amp going bad on the bass drivers. Just my take.
Paradigm/Anthem service is really solid and they have replacement parts ready to ship. They even have replacement drivers for speakers made 10+ years ago. I don't think you'd have any trouble getting/installing a replacement amp board, even after the warranty expires.
@@J.LuxeInstallations How many years is the warranty? Is it transferable?
Gotta say active subs on a speaker are not my cup of tea. I have the Def Tech 9060 speakers and those always pop loudly when powered up. I don’t believe they did this initially. Also I’ve seen a lot of people complaining the sub amps dying on them. I am sure the 120H are using better quality sub amps, but what happens if the amp shits the bed? Any way to power them with an external amp? Probably not am guess. How long is the warranty on the amp?
Would agree on amp, but I've owned and still do the infinity overture 3. They are from 1998 and have never had a problem. Granted they don't make anything like back then, but Paradigm seems to be a quality company. The defs are good speakers with great customer service, but I hear the amps go out afya few years.
Look quite good for the money.
Seems like the only issue here is software. I like neutral sound but i also like +5dB bass with metal music to feel the drums. Afaik harman target for speakers in room is not flat but +5-10dB bass flat mids and slope down to -5dB for trebles. Also small dips between bass and mids and trebles makes a black background and better separation feeling (gamut does so with their speakers with great result)
Adjustments can be made in the ARC software to increase your bass level so you are not stuck with "neutral" correction. Not 10db but you can get a significant bump. In my experience it is plenty, even for a bass head.
What about Sonus Faber Olympica Nova 3 compared with this Paradigm….
So how much is it?
I dont see how arc corrects for nodes. I think it has more to do with the bottom port. You cannot correct for a true node.
How the hell did you carry those things upstairs they weigh a ton.😂 Great video
Paradigm 120H or the Arendal 1723 THX, can you please compare them? They are both the best for their price range and with similar characteristics? Are they both paired very well with Vincent SV-237MK?
Arendals are exceptional for that price however the experience will vary depending on the amplification because everything is passive. Meaning, if you want robust bass and also tube's soundstage, you will have to do heavy research to find something like that (and tube amps with robust bass and nice balance can be expensive) but imagine it with powered DSP controlled bass drivers with passive mid and tweeter that you can pair up with a silky sounding tube amplifier without having to worry about the bass performance + PPA lenses to even better the focus/imaging... Can the Adrenals be as good or even better? Yes, with really good gear or bi-amping perhaps. Hope that answers your question.
@@Jayiyagi I see. Does this also mean that my Vincent SV-237MK (I love this thing) won't be a good match with the Paradigm, since the whole purpose of the Vincent is to be a hybrid for tighter bass with any fully passive speakers, while the Paradigm will always have exceptional bass with its own amp? Lastly, I wanted to know generally with same gear in AB comparison how they compare (except the active bass portion), since the Arendal is 1/2 the price of the Paradigm? Sorry for the big questions, this stuff is costly and inaccessible for me. Thank you for the great review and the answers!
@@tonezou3918 Yes you would be correct, while the Vincent will be perfectly awesome with the Paradigm, you could do far better by looking at an amplifier known for staging, mid range, high frequency refinement, and etc. AB comparison without X portion whether it be bass, mid, or treble would be like asking how X coffee compares to Y coffee minus the sugar differences, it's hard to tell because it is the over-all presentation that matters and mids and highs are just as affected by the bass response but I will try my best here; The paradigms and Arendals are quite similar but the paradigms have more focused imaging and larger staging, tad bit more laid back in comparison to the more tastefully sparkly and sweet highs on the Arendals. Hope that helps
Yes but is it real? Does each instrument carry its own space? Does each soloist singer have the height off the stage and moves around the sound tapestry? Does each solo instrument become a standing apart? Do choirs have levels as they do in reality? Are they in absolute phase? Do they reproduce for instance the fantastic recognized sound signature of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra at full crescendo? The MBLs do this to a good degree. It seems current state of the art amplifiers can do this.
Do I need to buy two REL S812 to my Founder 120H stereo ? Thank you.
( actually I have 5.2 system two 15'' REL HT series , and somewhere on the way truck with new speakers pair of 120H ,90C, and pair 80F for surround , using processor Anthem AVM-70, Anthem 525 -2Gen. Amp.)
Definitely subs are not required. I am running a sealed sub at 40hz and under. Adds a little punch way down low but absolutely not necessary.
How do you afford all of this audio equipment?
I think room correction only works for the bass. How could it work for the midrange / tweeter when the are passive and using an amplifier with no correction in the path way?
correcting the bass also impacts the mids and highs perception
@@Jayiyagi good catch 😂 but try listening to your video again
I was hoping to see a part 2 GR-Research video of you listening to Danny’s system. We have communicated before so you have my email. Any comments would be strictly private. Ron Vaillant
Contrasty?
No more need Focal 816V + LRS+... that's it, that's all!😊
... Memories ..
I think the midrange in the 120h is a true midrange and not a midrange/woofer. This likely is what you are hearing v. the bookshelf.
How does it compare to Persona 3F and 5F ?
The persona line pushes more treble detail with their beryllium tweeter/midrange drivers. The resolution from the 3Fs is ridiculous. They also have a more solid cabinet (even though the founders are well braced). For me I prefer the Founder 120h because I find them to have a more coherent sound and image even better. I suspect this is due to the waveguide on the tweeter and the nice flat bass response. They are also a bit more laid back sounding (not as bright) so they're awesome for long listening sessions.
Jay, how does this speaker compare to your new baby? I was disappointed not to hear your thoughts by comparison.
unfortunately I do not compare my own designs with others in the market. I think that's biased and a sneaky move. I'll leave the review of my designs to others to comment
Thanks!
I thought your new speakers the typhons were going to be the last speakers that I would ever need 😅
unfortunately I do not compare my own designs with others in the market. I think that's biased and a sneaky move. I'll leave the review of my designs to others to comment
Hopefully these aren't ultra bright... I had the 200B Bookshelves, those things were beautiful and well built but gave me headaches.. I couldn't even EQ the brightness out.
yes I found some paradigms bright but these are not and I mentioned that in this review.
I hope I am the first comment there. I loved the speaker when you reviewed the bookshelf version I believe the 40 B I just spent $3500 on dali Epicon2
they run about 3 to 4 times the price of the arendal 1723 are they 4 times better? ps with tubes and a turntable these must be nuts lol
good question Tom! Arendals are exceptional for that price however the experience will vary depending on the amplification because everything is passive. Meaning, if you want robust bass and also tube's soundstage, you will have to do heavy research to find something like that (and tube amps with robust bass and nice balance can be expensive) but imagine it with powered DSP controlled bass drivers with passive mid and tweeter that you can pair up with a silky sounding tube amplifier without having to worry about the bass performance + PPA lenses to even better the focus/imaging... Can the Adrenals be as good or even better? Yes, with really good gear or bi-amping perhaps. Hope that answers your question.
@@Jayiyagi thanks man
@@tombillard5264 you are very welcome
these ones or your Typhons?
unfortunately I do not compare my own designs with others in the market. I think that's biased and a sneaky move. I'll leave the review of my designs to others to comment
@@Jayiyagi fair enough sir! 👍🏻