Pouring A 4400 Sq Ft Concrete Slab (For A Storage Building)
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2020
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In this video I'm showing you how we pour a 4400 square foot concrete slab for a storage building. This kind of concrete slab is unique because of the notched edges. Storage buildings typically have a 1.5" x 10" bond out all the way around the perimeter on top of the slab. This (lower area) is where the walls are set. The main floor is higher (1.5") and the theory is if water were to get under the walls, the floor would remain dry because it's higher.
We install quite a few of these larger concrete slabs in a year. Other than the notched edge, they're poured much like most other large concrete slabs. Let me know in the comments if you've ever seen a concrete slab like this and if you have installed any!!
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a trick : watch movies on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Eric Marcelo Yup, been watching on flixzone for since december myself :)
What concrete mix do you use for the power screed?
No one in my area is capable of work like this. You got a great group of guys.
Will try that next time thanks
Wow ! Tremendous Workmanship!...A wealth of valuable information! 👏
Out freaking standing!!! You guys are like well oiled gears. Concrete Pros!!
Thanks Danny!!
Nice work! Can’t wait to see the finish process! Thanks
Cool Travis, thanks.
You do nice work I love watching your videos very helpful. Thank you
such a blast to catch one of your vids ... always impressive Mike and your voice over explanations sound great tooo .. doing a superb job at this man
Glad you like them!
Great video as always Mike!
Thank you, Frank!
Very good and funny videos bring a great sense of entertainment!
You guys make it look so easy, great job!
Thanks Eric, it really is pretty easy when everyone knows what they're doing.
great job guys
Thank you!
I really like your videos..keep up the great work
Mike you've got a good hard working crew doing a reall good job! Very impressed. I was the superintendent for a large company doing concrete! I retired after 30 yrs and just watching these videos keeps me in the loop thanks man
Thanks Charles, I appreciate it. I've got some really good people working for me.
Another job well done by mike day and all the guys. All of you do such great job. Thanks for all the helpful tips and all the great videos.....aloha from Hawaii God bless thanks again
Good job men
Thanx for the tips keep it up
You're welcome.
I've been watching various videos of concrete flooring, this is the first video I seen where everything is being done correctly, if you're watching to learn take it from me a professional cement finisher these guys are top notch
Hey Mike, never done any concrete work, but going to soon. Building an ICF house and detached garage. What I like about the video is how the step down is formed. I plan on using this technique on our garage slab. I'll use that step down technique for when we come back and start the walls with ICF blocks.
Nice job!
Hi mike , I’m a union finisher from Philadelphia I’ve been doing it for 4 years We use viberscreeds when it calls . But most of the time magnesium screeds or 2x4 depending on what the job calls for. I enjoy your videos you guys do an excellent job !!👍🏻👍🏻 makes it a whole lot easier with some good rake guys with a good eye on them !!! I think I may start a CZcams channel . Thanks again Keep up the videos always enjoy them
This is tim from Ohio i have never done one that. Size i am by my self. So i stay with small things. I can't get no one to work. I have to rent most of my things to use but u r the best. 😊😊
nice crew good work
Thank you!
Looks good, Mike.... from Western Canada 👍
Thanks Jack
Impressive
I do tarmacadam over here in Ireland but always wanted to try concrete for maybe a year or two. You've a top team working for you it's great to watch.. keep up the great work 👍
Thanks 👍
Nice job 👍
Thank you!
Mike, small tip, just use the vibrascreed to set your wet pad in the center. Do your laser wet screeds at the length of your blade or even closer. Nice work . I've done those edges either way, and leaving them open is definitely the way to go
Been pouring storage units for three past 3 years they are a lot of work we used a 2x10 on edge for the recess along perimeter fun shit
Lot of work, you got that right.
Great job, well done. If you have the right guys they make work easy for everyone. The two large guys with you Mike are worth their weight in gold! Noticed in previous vids. how they know the score and work accordingly. Good health, and good luck from across the pond. Thank you, and subbed.
Thanks Mike, My guys are awesome. Glad you noticed.
Poured my first piece of concrete this last weekend after watching you're channel for a while. It went horrible! Just did a little practice ring around my firepit. Ultimately I think it came down to the concrete we used. Just the cheap hand mixed 60 lb bags from Menards. The bag says its only a 3" slump as speced and we had a hard time with it. We added too much water to try to be able to work it, and still ended up with massive pores when we removed the forms. Some spots had too much aggregate and too little sand, so we ended up with a pebbled surface. Didnt set like I got used to seeing in your videos where you could work the surface smooth with a trowel. We will definitely try again! Probably get better concrete, rent a mixer to get better mixing, and use the right amount of water. I bet readymix goes smoother. Still had a lot of fun. Will probably still hire a contractor for the floor on our upcoming housebuild but definitely want to make another attempt at patios and sidewalks.
My crew and I have taken on a 15'x110', 2 guys and myself with a 20x20 off to the side we used a vibratory screed as well and a whirly bird to finish. I havent taken on anything quite this big as I havent had the opportunity. You guys did a beautiful job.
Thanks Mark. Having 3 or 4 good finishers does make doing these a lot easier. We only had 3 trowels on these finishing them.
@@MikeDayConcrete You guys kill it, very impressive thankyou for sharing.
I have the same two power screeds as you . The Marshalltown and mbw screed demon . I need to sell both of them . Because two years ago I stopped working for myself and went to work for a large concrete contractor as a foreman . The MBW is an awesome screed !
Excellent Video. Im going to sign up with you membership with in the week..For years I wanted to get into doing this. Going back to when I was 15 yros... I settled for the waste business last 24 years.. lol.. But I really want to learn the in and outs with this business. I poured about 6 slabs in my life 1-4 yards tops. I always seem to have an interest with this . Not sure why. just looking to get in this end of the business. We recycle concrete and haul it. So I think it would be cool to cover the whole end of it. Removing it to pouring it.. Thanks for posting these vids Mike
Thanks Tom, let me know how I can help.
i wish all the trades posted such content....cant believe how many comments mike answers...
Seems like the vibrascreed is a game changer..
I would love to have a crew that could do this with. It would be a great experience together. I currently have my youngest brother watching your videos. It is helping him see stuff that he never got to see before my Dad started to slow down. We are trying to build a team!
Great videos. Finally a guy that actually knows how to pour concrete on you tube. How about a video on how u organize your service body trucks? I find that by having a service body trucks and we'll organized saves me many extra trips to my shop during the day. I would love to see how u organize your trucks!!
Thank you for the suggestion!
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We use a roller screed here in Minnesota 22’. We poured a driveway and little parking lot (80 yds) with my sons, age 15 and 12 running the screed and my other guys with rakes were hurrying to keep up with them screeding this off. A roller screed would have save you a lot of back labor. ( I’m not a troll). Love you’re videos. We’ve learned a lot. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
Hi Mike, do you have a video on forming the storage slab
We called that shelve a "weather lip " I put a weather lip on all the residential garage floors I do ,,, just lay a 2x4 on its flat up against the garage door bucks that they screw the tracks to ,,,,, finish to the top of the 2x4 on the inside the bottom on the outside just like you did there ,,,usually after the first pass take the 2x4 out and finish underneath it brush it or float finish it !
ive always said pourin it is the easy job anyone can do it but finishing it it takes skill its a art if u ask me lol
Saludos cordiales atodos los maestros en pulidos de hormigón muchas bendiciones para todos ustedes yo trabajo en lo mismo aquí en chile
I'm a journeyman in the union. We poured many huge slabs. I can't lie, it isn't fun...lol. especially in winter when your fighting rain and cold temperatures.
You're right, winter concrete isn't very much fun!
@@MikeDayConcrete I worked one winter in North Dakota. We poured some slabs in 20 below temperatures. The concrete froze on the bottoms of are mag hand floats instantly. A guy walked around with a weed burner and his job to heat up the bottom of are mags to melt the concrete on it. It was ridicules and a pain in the ass.
We always poured using a ground warmer that used hoses that pumped heated hydronic fluid through it and covered them with heating blankets for the night. Then a snow storm hit. We had to dig the snow and ice off of the blankets in order to move them by dragging them. They were so heavy with snow an ice on top of them.
I would never work a winter in North Dakota ever again. It was hell...only freezing...lol.
I'm jealous, every slab like that is always on a steep lot with multiple elevation changes.
Yea, no elevation changes is sweet.
We use a somoro 840 laser screed and pan with 10’ STX finishing with 8’ HHN and HTX. Lot less work and a better job done. Good job doing it the hard way. Thanks for the video.
We do what we know. Never used a Somoro.
Mike Day Everything About Concrete do you even have a ride on trowel?
Do you pay attention to ff and ffl?
Do you have details on the process of forming?
Hey how you doing just wanted to leave a comment for you I've been doing concrete for 17 years and I like to do it either Viber screed or just a regular old 2 by 4 either way is good for me you guys look like you're doing a good job
Thanks Luke!!
I work for a precast plant. And we do everything by hand but we dont vines screeed we do it with a long piece of 2x4 it just depends I guess. We do use a vibrator however to get all the bubbles out.
Sounds good Josue!
Hey Mike - great video. Brilliant idea to back the truck down the middle. Are you concerned with the trucks driving on the poly and puncturing it?
been doing smaller pads like to do bigger pads
I use a screed pipe down the middle and fill in with bullfloat
Hi Teddy, a lot of people are taught that way. It works!
Hi . When driving with the power trowel . Have as little angle as possible, To increase the angle after a 3 times. then you get the cream, then drive 3-5 times until you have a mirror.
This is translated by google
etc. from Sweden
P.S. Nice work
Hey mike i watch all your videos and im a builder im getting ready to build a storage facility for myself and was wondering what do i need to do to figure out how to form it. I already bought one of the buildings.
Hey, so we’re a non profit camp for people with disabilities that pours all our own concrete. We mostly pour walks between all of our buildings for accessibility. We use a vibrascreed for everything we can. One issue we’ve always had is pouring pads wider that the screed board like you’ve done here. It seems like If it’s not riding on the edge of our form it just sinks in. So to combat this we always have to put in a 2” steel pipe down the middle of the pad to ride on and then we pull it out after screeding. Are we doing something wrong that it always sinks in? Should we not be sitting on the edge of the form maybe? Also your videos a beyond useful! I’ve learned so much watching
Hello, I run the vibe screed. But being shorthanded we just started big stuff. Did a driveway today and it was slanted grade. Wow. Different
What kind of vibe screed?
@@MikeDayConcrete IDK. Whitman 12'.
Hey Mike Day what's up?
Have you ever done anything like this with a triple barrel roller screed?
Sweet moneymaker there! No pipes, no pump, trucks spaced just right, no waiting. I bet you wish you had 3 or 4 of those every day, right?
We have a cpl names for those forms on the edges in my area. Those specifically, most would call a ‘recess form’. Or some people might call them ‘depression forms’. Others might even refer to them as a small ‘floating form’. And you’re right. WAY better to ‘float’ them in there like you did instead of a solid 2x8 or 2x10. Then you HAVE to use a vibrator and invariably you always end up with a cpl voids that need to be patched.
I wonder what they’re referred to in other areas.
Yea, it's pretty much impossible to get the air voids out using a 2x10 unless you strip it off and sponge it out. A lot more work in my opinion. The pouring and finishing part of these is the easy stuff, forming and stripping the forms is more work.
how do you keep the 1x1 from floating up
Vibrating screed earned its keep saving destroyed backs.
You got that right!!
I've always been able to do concrete projects from a knowledge standpoint but for the labor I've never had enough guys all at once to attempt. When it comes to crete more guys is always better.
Mike, I really like how you have the open ledge. We typically will form this with 2x10's nailed on edge to out outside vertical form, a 2x12. Lots of work to strip and finish. I'm curious how you suspend the 1-1/2" form and keep it secure?
I use a Simpson Strong Tie bracket from the 2x4 to the 2x12 to secure it.
Nice work! How far apart do you space trucks? We hand screed with a mag board and use a 2" flat bar on edge for screed guide in the center. Usually only do 20-30 yds at a time since it's just a two man crew with whatever day help we can scrounge up. It is a real pleasure to watch your crew work.
Not much spacing. On a job like this he just loads them as fast as he can.
Hi Mike, my name is Dimitri. I have a small company of 9 guys and we are concrete floor specialist in Mauritius. We usually cast 40.00 x 10:00 x 0.20 mm thick in 1 pour including the power float finish. We also use a laser to control the levels. Every steps are quite similar except from your vibrating ruler. Instead we use a vibrator and poker and aluminium straight edge ruler to cut the concrete flat. We also use floor hardener at 5 kg/m2 by dry shaking and we power float with a rideon power float machine. We normally start at 8:00 in the morning and we finish at 19:00 hrs
Let me have your opinion on our way of doing concrete floors. We also use a pump to pour the concrete. Regards Dimitri
Awesome Dimitri, thanks for watching!
Just asking about that steel mesh that lies flat on the ground.
What does it help when it is on the ground like that?
Hi Mike nice to see you give your recommendations. Do you do your own form work too?
Yes!
@@MikeDayConcrete you should totally do a video in formwork soon! 🙂
Hello Mike. Love watching these videos. We do small jobs usually. My guys don't seem to learn well or don't want to. Anyway how do you charge for these ? Is everything by the square foot?
What was slab thickness?
Got pick up mesh
Still screeding with a caveman 2x4 and vibrating using a hammer on the forms as we're pouring out because bossman is stuck in the early 90s.
Wonders why there's small dips in the slab though.
Have you shown him my videos?
Hey Mike. Is it possible to use a power screed while doing exposed aggregate?
Great video! Do you ever run into the slab "shattering " when you pour directly on plastic? It's always been recommended to have a few inches of sand or dirt on top of the vapor barrier....
No we don't have any problems doing it like this other than the bleed water.
RE: a few inches of sand or dirt on top of the vapor barrier.
That is some Californian ridiculousness. If water get into that layer, where should it go? It will creep out of the floor. Expect all kinds of fungi and mold. Obviously, the sand must be under the vapor barrier, obviously.
How does the power screed not sink?
How are you guys lining the forms? We’ve never done one that big that would be a lot of string line to run
Looking to learn more how to set a business for concrete flat work such as your doing / by the way I’m. from Coatesville Pa. 19320
Where was this at
Do you do the form work or just place and finish?
Sir,I need concrete design mix, with admixture ?
How do u keep the 1 1/2 from floating up?
I did the shelf idea last time and for sure more time consuming
When everyone knows there job makes pouring mud fun!!
Good looking project
Thanks Green and Son concrete
I have a "floor joist bracket" screwed into the 2x12 form and the cross brace that keeps it from floating.
@@MikeDayConcrete thanks I just learned something new.
dude, is that a sloof/beam in the left and right?
Do you typically pour footings for this type of slab? Perhaps that isn't required in Maine, but I'm trying to determine if it is in WI.
Shouldn't the rebar be raised off of the ground ?
What’s the thickness ?
Did you put a retarder in the concrete to give you more time to finish it or no? Love your videos Mike! Thanks
Never done one! Want to do my own 24x40. Inside pole barn! Any help will be appreciated!
Got to pick up the mess very important job got old guy on the shut 1 guy pulling mesh from Nicholas juliana
Good video and nice work, you’re the first crew I’ve ever seen with no Mexicans on it… LOL, I run union commercial concrete out in California and 99.9% of all concrete crews are Mexicans. Keep up the vids.
HI Mike, Thanks!
I really never see you pulling up the steel wire mesh
Mike, I know this is off topic. I need some help to help my son. He purchased a house with a in ground pool. The concrete is sinking in a couple areas about 1" to 1.5". The previous home owner skimmed a material over these edges to keep them from being a tripping point. These areas are now breaking up.... I know that having the concrete lifted would be the proper fix. Sadly, during this virus time funds are very tight. I can't help him because i make ends meet barely being a disabled veteran. What materials would i use to skim these lip areas? Also, what could i do to prep these areas to help the skim material stick better? Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
That's a pretty big slab..👍I wonder how much time forming it took.
Forming probably took a day and grading [with a machine] probably took another. Pour the 3rd day.
Yea, I plan on a day to form.
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Anybody have any experience with keeping a small bathroom in the corner of a slab isolated from the rest of the slab Incase there is a plumbing problem so I can just remove that section?
How much do you charge per square foot
No need in ripping the 2x4 for weather lip so you can reuse them later
There's less of an area to "mag out" under the board when you strip it off. Just a little easier/faster to finish in my opinion.
Any hold down bolts inserted?
Not with these buildings. The builder secures the plate down his own way.
I would have hit the easy button and rented the laser screet
Did you guys form it as well?
We did. The forming is more work than the pouring and finishing.
I notice you always use rear discharge chutes. The concrete companies up there don't have front dumps?
There's a few front dumps but mostly rear discharge.
What's that guy pulling?
I know yall a pro, I worked on a metal storage building, but that can't be good for the prep foundation, if yall driving the mixer on the mesh rebar instead from the side, luckily its just a single story metal storage building.