Missing Linen Shroud: Supposed Biblical Error #14
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- How could Joseph of Arimathea buy a linin shroud on Passover and while the sun was setting, when the Sabbath was beginning?
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Did great here IP. Hey when are you going to respond to athiest again?
Hey IP are you going to make a video about The day on which Jesus was crucified
Marry Christmas IP.
Hey IP, what’s ur opinion on this whole dream speedrun controversy? Do you think dream cheated on his 1.16 speedrun or nah?
Unexpected IP vid ahead:
Me: A surprise to be sure. But a welcome one.
Merry Christmas Mike and many years more!
you also have the possibility that some tasks were delegated, but as Joseph was the man responsible, the action is still ascribed to him. So, He could have sent someone (a servant or friend?) to get the shroud and to call Nicodemus whilst calling on Pilate.
Your research skills are awesome
His research skills are not “awesome”. He seeks those that agree with his bias and ignore those otherwise. That’s not scholarship.
@@Actuary1776 Make a video opposing his views show us what real scholarship is .
@@terrencejones5748 Although the response is a pussified "tHaT's nOt ReAl ScHoLaRsHiP" he is right this is not scholarship as much as it is argumentation in which Michael is excellent.
@@foolish_machiavellian3448 Pussified is when you’re not capable of admitting that your religious book isn’t perfect.
@Saros N Sure, it’s not hard really. Michael only cites the scholars that support his position, Michael has literally NEVER admitted the weaknesses in his position. Whether it’s the linen cloth or Judas death or the trial of Jesus. Everything can neatly be explained and harmonized according to Michael. It doesn’t pass the bs test yet you slurp it up without question. It indicates a lack in critical thinking skills and does not demonstrate an ability to research. It does demonstrate his ability to confirm his bias, and if that’s what you’re looking for then you’ve come to the right place.
Remember that Mark wrote the Gospel in about the year 70.
He was just pointing some important things out and added that Joseph had purchased it without stating that he had bought it prior to this event.
Mark is the earliest Gospel. It came around 55 to 60AD, but certainly not 70AD
You’re right…that’s because Joseph got the linen shroud BEFORE Shabbat even started. According to Dueteronomy 21:23, a body hung on a tree or tied to a pole would be buried the same day BEFORE SUNSET. Shabbat starts Friday at sunset, when the actual day of Friday technically ends according to the Hebrew calendar. So it wasn’t even a Sabbath nothing when Joseph or any of his servants would’ve bought the linen shroud. This is a very easy “contradiction” to refute. I’m actually confused as to how someone as intelligent as IP didn’t give this explanation, which is much less convoluted.
There are many incidences in The Hebrew Scriptures were the laws are not followed verbatim but God’s will or voice is. God is okay with King David & his men to eat the showbread which was only legal for The Priesthood to eat!
Or again The Priesthood actually Work harder on The Sabbath than any other day!
Jesus Himself in John 5 seems to directly oppose numbers were Moses stoned a man for picking up sticks on a sabbath
Yet Jesus walks, heals & commands the man to pick up his Pallet and carry it on a sabbath!?
Jesus was filled with The Holy Spirit and led by Him🕊
Superior to laws and regulations.
The Voice of YHVH and obedience even when it seems to contradict the law!
I advocate for the weekly Sabbath as for us. And suggest we do not work on the Sabbath. But there is obvious provision for essential activity. Like caring for the sick and those who sleep(die).
Well done.
Very interesting how The Scriptures are actually written.
Adam was created on day 6.
So his very first evening was?
SABBATH!!! ~ REST!!!
God did ALL THE WORK IN 6 DAYS!
HE said it was finished & Rested
The Creation.
Jesus on The Cross who when ministering said “I Have Nowhere To Lay My Head”!
Lay His Head to Rest on The Cross & gave up His Spirit! (In Full Control)!
“IT IS FINISHED “!
He Rested.
The Redemption
HE did it ALL. ✝️🕊🙏🏻
Thank You Heavenly Father ♥️
I hope dr.habermas can take up the shroud of Turin one day
Thank God more people are reading Dr Brant Pitre
Its amazing. Truly😊
I must admit I don't agree with the point about the aorist participle. Aorist either has a simple aspect (came, saw, went vs. coming, seeing, going), or has a narrative aspect of retaining the previous tense (for instance, if you began the narration with a perfect tense then the aorist carries a perfect aspect). If Mark was trying to say what you suggest in the video he would have used the pluperfect tense, which would indicate that Joseph of Arimathea *had already bought* the linen.
Otherwise, good video.
No, because the pluperfect active does not have the participle mood. Like the imperfect tense, it only has the indicative mood.
I don't think Mark would have had to use a different participle than the one he used. If anything, he might have had to use an adverb like "πρότερον" to make it more clear.
Given the context of the phrase however it's beyond doubt it was an action that Joseph did not too long before taking Jesus down the cross, because it's presented right before another verb in the same tense, kathelwn. But it's not necessarily the tense here that denotes it, it's only the context of the situation and the way the two verbs are presented in parallelism. The only way to know the temporal aspect of an aorist participle is the context of the phrase and the tense of the main sentence.
@@beckc.5084 "No, because the pluperfect active does not have the participle mood."
I'm not sure I would consider participles "moods" (Greek already has enough of those), but you are right that there is no pluperfect participle in Greek. What I should have said is that it would have been in the perfect tense (having bought) since that is the participle with a completed aspect.
The main point of my comment is that aorist does not have a completed aspect (which is what is retained in a participial phrase, rather than the time)
"I don't think Mark would have had to use a different participle than the one he used."
Why not? I will admit you probably have a much better understanding of Markan vocabulary than I do, since I am much more well versed in Classical rather than New Testament Greek (which, if I'm honest, has always been a little weird to me). Nevertheless, I simply don't see how an aorist participle *by itself* would imply that something *had already been accomplished*
As for your last paragraph, that's more or less what I was saying. The aorist tense (especially the participle) is used regularly in narration of a story because the events of the story already happened, and the aorist tense is the most convenient for saying "x happened" without getting into the nuances of levels of completion that other tenses imply. I merely wished to point this out as I found it to be the most questionable part of the video.
Thankyou for all your efforts IP
Well done. I've noticed from your citations of Loftus' work that he seems to read into the scripture more than he reads from it. Do you feel the same way?
Thanks, and I see what you mean.
@@briendoyle4680 All arguments for God's existence are not focused on a certain book. The Kalam ontological argument, the finite universe argument, and the moral argument are all famous methods of proving the existence of God and none of them point out a specific book. Just from that comment I can tell your intellectually lazy because even a sceptic who has done an ounce of research would know people like Dr. William Lane Craig or Dr. Lennox never use the Bible or any other holy book to argue for God's existence. I respect your position but at least try to examine the other position thoughtfully before saying something this ignorant.
@@briendoyle4680 That response just shows the level of your laziness and ignorance. You couldn't even spend time to look at the arguments I mentioned before responding with your idiocy. I respect your beliefs but I can tell that the way you came to hold them was through dogmas and assertions rather then thoughtful research and discussion.
@@briendoyle4680 I just gave you three arguments dumbass. One again they are the Kalam ontological argument, the cause of the finite universe argument, and the moral argument. At this point ur being so willfully ignorant to the point that after I gave you 3 separate arguments for the existence of God you replied by just ignoring them and repeating the same slogan your Atheist gods told you to say, “there is no evidence for God”
@@briendoyle4680 Your obviously too lazy to do an ounce of research so I'll spell out the arguments for you. First the Kalam Ontological argument which goes like this, for anything that came into existence, there must have been something that caused it to come into existence. Clearly, effects have causes. Pretty basic, and entirely consistent with our common-sense experience of the world.
Second, the material universe (the cosmos) came into existence sometime in the past. Virtually everyone affirms this point because of the widespread evidence that shows the universe did in fact have a beginning, Therefore, the material universe must have had a cause. This cause must be space-less because it created space
timeless because it created time
immaterial because it created matter
powerful because it created something out of nothing
intelligent because the creation event the universe was precisely designed and personal because it made a choice to make something out of nothing and. That "it" is what we call God. Second would be the moral argument which is pretty basic. The argument can be summarized in the following syllogism:
Premise 1: If God does not exist, then objective moral values and duties do not exist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values and duties do exist.
Conclusion: Therefore, God exists.
These are just 2 of the most famous arguments. When your done with your foolishness and ignorance you might shock yourself and find that you can in fact have an intelligent conversation about the topic. From what I've seen I wouldn't keep my hopes up but maybe you do in fact have an IQ above room temperature.
I'm really interested in the women anointing the body. What exactly were they doing? My understanding is that men prepared (and still do prepare) the bodies of other men, and women the bodies of women. Have you read anything addressing this?
I always figured there was a mortician or something.
Just off the top of my head, so likely wrong: Weren't the male disciples of Jesus hiding in fear of the Jews? Perhaps the women were the only ones available and willing to go to the tomb?
@@Crosshair84 this is possible
@@Crosshair84 its interesting that women were involved at all. Perhaps less interesting than we think, but if women were such second class citizens and yet Jesus treated them so differently it seems appropriate that they would go to honor him upon his entombment
Have I missed something?
Before the Passover which is a meal, not a feast day you have the day of preparation.
pass over a meal and the feast of Unleavened Bread start at sundown.
the shroud was bought before pass over or the Unleavened Bread which is a high sabbath began.
I can't find any restrictions for the day of preparation?
This all hinges on a Friday crucifixion. This allows for only 2 days in the grave. A Thursday crucifixion avoids all this trouble.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:8
Interesting that God kicks off his Bible with a basic lesson on how to count.
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be *three days* and *three nights* in the heart of the earth.
Mat12:40 >
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Genesis 1:11
There’s compelling evidence that days actually began at sunrise. Something to consider
What's the evidence?
@@melchiorheyer exodus 16, every time it describes the next day, it uses the word “morning.” Example: they were told to gather twice as much on the 6th day. When it was morning time, they were told to go and gather it. There’s entire videos on this with other scripture but that’s something I thought of off the top of my head.
days began at sunrise and ended at sunset. However calendar dates by the 1st century began at sunset among Jews.
JOHN says that Nicodemus--who aided Joseph of Arimathea--came to him "by night" bringing the myrrh and aloes [19:39]. I'd say that "by night" means AFTER the sun had gone down . . . unless . . . In the 3rd chapter of JOHN it says: "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him" etc. So, maybe the later verse refers to this earlier visit Nicodemus had made to Jesus: "Nicodemus also, who had at first come to him by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes" etc. The words "at first" could refer, then, to that earlier meeting in chapter 3.
I've argued, in the past, that the words "by night" [19:39] PROVED that the next day sabbath couldn't have begun at sunset, but I now see that this 2-word phrase doesn't qualify as evidence of that.
However, it should be noted that the 6-day Creation story told in GENESIS chapter 1 has God creating this and that, and then it says, "there was evening and there was morning, the 1st day" etc. In other words, God worked during the first half of the 24-hour day -- i.e. from sunrise to sunset, the work hours of the day, when there is light to see what you're doing -- and THEN there was evening (i.e. the sun went down) and THEN there was morning (when the next day was to begin with the sunrise), the completion of the 1st day.
When the people of Judah were forcibly relocated to Babylon, they were forced to live according to the time-keeping system of the Babylonians, who began their days at sunset. People assume that the Jews always began their days at sunset as well, and that this didn't change when they were captives in Babylon. However, the Jews used to refer to the first (spring) month of the year as ABIB . . . but then, AFTER they returned from Babylon, they had adopted the Babylonian names of their months -- replacing the name Abib with Nisan (from Babylonian Nisanu). To this day, the Jewish Calendar uses Babylonian month-names, and all but 4 of the original Hebrew names have been forgotten.
So, could it be that the Israelites formerly reckoned each day's beginning and end as SUNRISE, and then were forced to adopt the Babylonian system, taking on the new Babylonian month-names AND also adopting the new Babylonian time-keeping method whereby each day began and ended at SUNSET?
Is it possible that the Jews who returned to Judah/Judea might have forgotten that they were supposed to start and end their 24-hour days at sunrise? If they could forget the names of two-thirds of their original month-names, why couldn't they have forgotten when to begin each day as well? Show me a verse where God specifically commands His people to begin each day at sunset. "Thou shalt begin thy days at the setting of the sun."
I don't think such a verse exists.
@@patricktilton5377 Good comment, especially on the Nicodemus bit and God and the wording of the creation acccount: the way you phrased I always understood to be the most obvious reading.
However, I think that the whole "days begin at sunset" is a miscoception stemming form modern understanding. In ancient times, a day lasted from sunrise to sunset. This is when you did your work or business. From Sunset to sunrise there was night, when you slept. So one day was over when the sun set. Another began when the sun rose. In terms of the Sabbath, this of course meant that as soon as Friday's sun set, work stopped as you didn't work during the night and the next day was Sabbath.
Also Joseph was wealthy. He could have easily dispatched a servant to get the shroud while he did the other steps. In fact he likely had help to carry Jesus body to the tomb.
That's what I was thinking. And perhaps the intent was "Joseph bought a linen shroud..." because even though it was a violation (maybe not though, but even if it was) Joseph thought the purchase was important enough to violate the law anyways. I have no evidence to support my theory. Just something that came to mind.
You’re right…that’s because Joseph got the linen shroud BEFORE Shabbat even started. According to Dueteronomy 21:23, a body hung on a tree or tied to a pole would be buried the same day BEFORE SUNSET. Shabbat starts Friday at sunset, when the actual day of Friday technically ends according to the Hebrew calendar. So it wasn’t even a Sabbath nothing when Joseph or any of his servants would’ve bought the linen shroud. This is a very easy “contradiction” to refute. I’m actually confused as to how someone as intelligent as IP didn’t give this explanation, which is much less convoluted.
Brant Pitre is MY MAN!
I am impressed... I am learning
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Hey @inspiringphilosophy,
I was wondering if you will ever attempt to tackle the "irreconcilable" differences between the two birth narratives. I've read enough Tim O'Neill articles to know that he and most skeptical scholars think it's impossible, an act of mental gymnastics. It always bugs me around Christmas time to know that these two accounts that are so dear to the season are so suspect. It's absolutely no rush though, I'm well aware of the many big projects you have planned, and I don't want to be pushy. It has just always bothered me, and I'm only wondering if you ever have plans to tackle it.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, Michael.
John 19:42 notes that the tomb was chosen because it was nearby and time was short.
Merry Christmas!
Amazing content!! God bless you!!!
Not the main point of the video, but it's so sad that a preacher would not only leave the faith but go on to attack and try to discredit the Gospel. downright demonic
"Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us. " 1 John 2: 18-19
I have doubt but it bolsters my beliefs often. Doubt is normal. An Augustinian priest I once talked said doubt is what burnished faith so long as you know that questions you are asking. He was a psychologist. Anyway, I think Loftus came from a fundamentalist background and that might be a big part of the issue. Fundamentalism - I recognize that is a loaded term and it can mean different things to different people - can be hard to reconcile with the modern world. I don't believe the Church fathers were particularly fundamentalist themselves. I am sure theres more to Loftus's story but I have seen a level of nastiness in him that makes it hard to sympathize with. Losing one's faith is a painful, anxiety-inducing thing. Perhaps that accounts for the nastiness.
Especially over something as unimportant and easy to explain as this
I think the most likely explanation is as stated in this video, that Joseph already had the burial linen. If Joseph had already purchased a new tomb or had one excavated in preparation for his own or family members burial, it would make sense that he may also have had his grave linens prepared too. He comes across as someone who prepares for future events, and no one doubts that he had the required wealth to do so. It also seems obvious to me that the body preparation was rushed, just as suggested in the text and stated in this video. ie: The women went back to the tomb to anoint the body.
God bless!
Dr Pitre fan here...
IP, doing God's work, literally.
I was waiting for this video to be posted but I am more excited for Kent Hovind's second response to your video. Wonder when's he's going to post it!!!
It’s going to be hilarious
Hi Michael, love your videos. I wanted to ask you if you know about the contradiction in the Bible verses 2Samuel 24:1/ 1Chronicals 21:1. Please let me know what you have on this topic. Thanks again keep doing what your doing
Merry Christmas brother....May God bless you and your family forever....
Hey, you may have made a video talking about this already but I've been told that the crosses criminals are crucified on were put in place before the prisoner was brought there. Thus making it impossible for Jesus to have even carried His cross a little. Is this true?
Jesus carried the patibulum, not the entire cross.
The vertical columns were fixed at the place, but each condemned man had to carry his horizontal beam. Often, that beam was already bound on him, making the way to the Cross particularly hard.
@@str.77 thanks, do you think you could provide a source? If not thanks anyway
@@anunknownentity1637 For example, this: www.britannica.com/topic/crucifixion-capital-punishment - look for dragged and cross beam.
@@str.77 thanks, I'll take a look
I mean, it makes more sense that he’d bought it knowing that Jesus would be crucified the previous night and had gotten things organized before the crucifixion.
This is easily explained when you understand that Scripture teaches Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, not Friday. Note that it's not just Saturday that is called a "Sabbath" but also other Feasts (Lev. 23:1-8,24,32,38,39). In Mark 16:1 the women purchased spices AFTER the Sabbath. That couldn't have been Sunday because in Luke 23:56 they "prepared" the spices BEFORE the Sabbath, and they rested on the Sabbath after preparing them. The Sabbath referred to in Mark 16:1 is the Passover, which that year occurred on Thursday (beginning at sundown Wednesday). The women purchased the spices on Friday, after the Passover, prepared them, then rested on the Sabbath in Luke, Saturday.
They brought the spices to the grave first thing Sunday morning (Mary Magdalene, who was involved in the purchase and preparing actually showed up to the tomb before sunrise; John 20:1).
New subscriber here... after watching your podcast with David Wood. Love the citations and references to the documents you are basing your arguments from.
Could Joseph of Arimathea purchase from a foreign merchant or Roman?
I think your research and explanations are impeccable. I would like to see you explain how one gets “three days and three nights” from Friday to Sunday. When the women went to the tomb the “first day of the week at dusk” he had already risen. So my question is, what DAY was he crucified?
I did: czcams.com/video/0bmwxHm1kGw/video.html
@@InspiringPhilosophy Thank you. About to watch it. Keep up the good work.
The “whole what day did Jesus die” is thoroughly convoluted because the NT authors were each writing different theology with respect to Jesus death. The 3 days 3 nights prophecy is likely an after the fact prophecy they placed on Jesus lips. Mark depicts Jesus as confused and silent all throughout his trial and crucifixion, which is completely counter to Johns narrative that shows Jesus in total control in the grips of death. Johns depiction is likely less historical than Marks account, as John purposely moves the day of Jesus crucifixion as depicted in Mark so that Jesus was actually crucified in the day of preparation - literally becoming the “lamb of God”.
@@Actuary1776 How is it an “after the fact” prophecy? If that was the case it’s not a “prophecy” in the cert definition of the word.
@@WiggTheMobileBarbR Yes that’s the point, prophecy isn’t real.
People actually abandon their faith over such apparent trivial details? I think it has more to do with selling books.
It was a mantle that he bought. A mantle is both outer garment and burial shroud. A mantle is a long wide band of cloth used by high priest, prophet or king. Jesus is all 3
Just quoting Deuteronomy 21:23 provides a clear answer to this biblical question.
Hey IP, not sure if ur going to see this, but I just wanted to ask u if you replied to some of the criticism of your critique of Bohmian Mechanics. That seems to me to be among ur most controversial videos
I figure Joseph bought the burial linens after Jesus got nailed to the cross, or possibly even as early as the death sentence being proclaimed. Remember that this is all happening during the Roman occupation when a lot of Judeans were getting executed, and the community would have wanted to give them all proper burials, so it would have become customary to not delay the process even for sentimental reasons.
Your research is highly appreciated. Thank you a lot.✝️
True enough and he was not the only person involved in the burial. Further is the fact that Mark was reporting. Nothing says that other people could not or did not break any rules at any time. Throughout the bible this occurs. It is a non-contradiction and this was covered well and proven adequately.
Joseph bought the mantle from a Syrian merchant outside Damascus gate. After leaving Pilate
Hey brother awesome video, please do a video on 5 crosses instead of 3 a work by e.w. bullinger
Nice video!
Have you ever considered reviewing the documentary hypothesis? I know you’ve gone into OT scripture so talking about it is important for determining its validity.
4:55 cool theory. But it’s just that, a theory. It is based on opinion and in no way shape or form eliminates this contradiction
Keep up the good work
God told him to buy it in advance or he bought It in advance for himself, most likely God told him to buy a new one in advance!
The sun went down at noon fulfilling Amos 8:9 “i am the lord that caused the sun to go down at noon”. That verse has to be fulfilled sometime because God doesn’t say anything that’s arbitrary. The sun came up at three in the afternoon went out down at three came up again went down again Friday night went down Saturday night that’s three days & three nights according to how the Jews count time - Sun up to sundown.
Joshua made the sun stand still in the sky an extra 24 hours, & it was still counted a single day!
God will cut short the days like Jesus said in Matthew 24 in revolution 8 when the meteor hits the earth & a third of the earth is destroyed along with its population; the earth goes to 16 hour days and lose a third of its time; says 2nd to the the last verse in revelation eight.
The Mishnah verse doesn't actually say you could "buy" anything. In order for Joseph to "buy" linen then that implies there must have been someone to "sell" it but buying and selling was illegal on a festival day. The commandment to do "no ordinary work" was in reference to allowing food preparation only.
You’re right…that’s because Joseph got the linen shroud BEFORE Shabbat even started. According to Dueteronomy 21:23, a body hung on a tree or tied to a pole would be buried the same day BEFORE SUNSET. Shabbat starts Friday at sunset, when the actual day of Friday technically ends according to the Hebrew calendar. So it wasn’t even a Sabbath nothing when Joseph or any of his servants would’ve bought the linen shroud. This is a very easy “contradiction” to refute. I’m actually confused as to how someone as intelligent as IP didn’t give this explanation, which is much less convoluted.
@@Kingrich_777 It was still Passover before Jesus is buried. Buying and selling items on a festival day was illegal - Exodus 12:16, Leviticus 23:6-7, Nehemiah 10:31. Notice how the other evangelists omit the part where Mark says Joseph "bought" linen.
@@scholarlyquotes8390 there is no such prohibition on buying and selling on festival days, only Shabbat. I can find no source that writes that buying and selling on Passover(non-Shabbat days) is forbidden. The verses you mentioned have to do with buying and selling Chamertz
@@scholarlyquotes8390 nvm my fault I was wrong. But IP already answered your objection, dude💀
@@Kingrich_777 IP showed that Joseph violating Jewish law in full public view is most likely what happened?
Thursday (Passover Preparation Day), the morning of Nisan 14, Jesus is crucified at 3PM at the time the Passover lambs were slain. No problem for Joseph of Arimathea to buy linen on a preparation day. Jesus is laid in the tomb before sundown when the Friday Special Sabbath began.
Friday (Passover/Feast of Unleavened Bread), the evening of Nisan 15, Jews celebrate the Passover.
Saturday, Nisan 16, weekly sabbath.
Sunday, Nisan 17, Jesus rises from death at the conclusion of evening.
Sunday, Nisan 17, morning, 6AM, Jesus is proclaimed RISEN.
It was the table linnen that was in the upper room. JA bought it because it was his house. JA was the "certain man" Jesus told his disciple to speak to about the feast.
So you can prepare by digging a tomb early and you wouldnt think to buy the other stuff as well. I would say the linen was not for Jesus and was purchased before that day as the carved tomb.
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄
The BIBLE doesnt say that the shroud was bought or the spices arranged for AFTER Pilate judged Christ dead... after all, they SAW Him die on the cross....
Hi I was watching your video on Digital physics and I was wondering if you were saying we are in a simulation(basically a computer) I’m really confused.
Will you do some research on the claimed christian relics?
What about sun still on the bible?
New vid!!!
Great video.
*BECK & CALL*
bear in mind: joseph & nicodemus were wealthy, high influential jews & were in fact, members of the jewish council
relatively-speaking, they could be considered modern-day members of the supreme court, or the modern-day senators
yes, these two people belong to the "upper crust" of the society
they're NOT a nobody
surprisingly, they were secret supporters & admirers of Jesus
ordering someone to purchase spices & linens (whether on ordinary sabbath day or not) were just at their beck & call
How crazy does it get that you have to believe everything in a book written by dozens if not hundreds of authors over a span of a couple millennia is PERFECT! Praise Jesus!
Bcs it is :D if u can blantably say ur correct and close ur eyes to the prophecy and coherence to THE CHARACTER of jesus in the old and new testament, you must be rather extremely ignorant or super bias :) I'm goin with the latter. No book can just predict what jesus did 2000 Years and more before his existence..I mean why do u have to fool urself? Even science declares the marvels of God . It saddens me to kno there are ppl like u who keep living this fictitious life . U have no proof for ur worldview so u try to break down ours but tht just makes us go and search for answers to these questions, rlly just showing that even in ur evil , Gods goodness shines thru :) shroud of turnin is actual proof but u ignore it DUE TO UR BIAS. I'm not kidding actually go and research and see the evidence. What a hypocrite smh and no Isaiah 53 is neither abt israel or abt the prophets . That wouldnt make sense esp when u look at early rabbis they dont agree esp the student of one of the actual prophets . Smh very ignorant athiests are becoming, have no knowledge of everything yet u blah ur gibberish all over the interent . But thank u bcs ur obnoxiousness and stupidity, has actually allowed some ppl to see how much more God makes sense! Jesus is amazing! Even thru the ignorance of the fools , he shines! Not trying to be mean but u should do better research and study. Also no daniel wasnt written in BCE 2, again bad research. Bye! Take care ! Dont let the blind lead u! Take care ! And jesus is what ur searching for
I MEAN DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS like srsly from ur own wording makes u sound ridiculous bcs if anyone has eyes to read thr bible we see it does make perfect sense and line up well with the character of who God is . Shame.
They brought business inside the temple which Jesus drew them away, if this was possible then buying linen is no problem.
@InspiringPhilosophy Where do u think is the actual location of Jesus's tomb?
it was probably an unmarked grave so nobody will ever know (if jesus even existed)
First I have heard this argument.
Some skeptics say that the Bible condemns hand washing, what do you say about this?
That is an error. In fact, the Bible teaches to wash your hands with "running water" long before "anybody" knew why this is important.
@@MutsPub “Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem, they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands, holding to the tradition of the elders, and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.) And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
@@joshuadunford3171 I don't disagree. I do not understand your post?
The Bible does not condemn hand washing. In fact, encourages it.
That was your original post?
@@MutsPub that’s a bible quote where the disciples did not wash their hands, and ate with “defiled hands” contrary to the Jewish laws you mentioned
@@joshuadunford3171 I know the text. I am not arguing. I don't understand.
Bible condemns hand washing?
Where does it say this? Or are you just saying the disciples broke the law?
Make a video on Jesus vs Mani. (Was Jesus a copycat)
Great video. It's as if these scholars lack common sense. When a prominent figure passes away, people will make exceptions. We are talking about the Son of God and about people with free will. Guess what everybody, the people in the bible don't always follow the rules. So I can see someone selling a cloth. Also, keep in mind not everyone in and around Jerusalem would be of the same faith. The city was occupied by foreigners... the Romans. I could see some vendors making some $$ while the competition is on Sabbath. Guess where I would be selling shrouds... right next to a crucifixion site. SMH
Even if it wasn't Jesus, attending to a died body should happen rather quickly. Especially a body that has undergone that amount of suffering. The fact that IP stated with the women returning is great argument.
Thanks!
The Crucifixion was on the 14th and was a Thursday.
You can’t get “three days and three nights” from Friday to Sunday. The math doesn’t add up.
@@WiggTheMobileBarbR I'm a Thursday Crucifixion proponent.
@@Kuudere-Kun Ok. So your comment was a typo. Thanks for the clarification.
@@WiggTheMobileBarbR you can.
@@WiggTheMobileBarbR Jesus rose on the third day, not after three days and 3 nights. The day of the crucifixion was the first day no matter how late Jesus died. The day of the Resurrection was the third day no matter how early Jesus rose.
Mel Gibson quotes about Hollywood....
The gentiles know
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Because I need you to answer my question
5th!!
and he could have bought the shroud at any point, because crucified people weren't going to live.
the majority of folks take the Bible out of context, that's why they misunderstand it.
I ALWAYS end up with questions, particularly the OT. I have a Bible I picked up at my parish this summer that is about 40 years old. The footnotes help explain theories on why a word or phrase was used. I just was rereading the story of Abraham and I found the footnotes really helpful. I never thought much about the context until a few years ago. I guess I figured - strangely for a Catholic - that if the Bible is the word of God it's context must always be evident. Brant Pitre, who Michael references, points out that reading the synoptic gospels without recognizing they were written for and for 1st Century Jews is like going on a treasure hunt without a map. Anyway, I like this video. I never realized it was a so-called contradiction, butcits a good question
Another IP video!
Are you going to do more serious errors? There are plenty of real substantive errors but most of these videos focus on relatively minor points that I doubt anyone is really bothered about other than strict inerrantists.
This is a pretty big series lol. You can’t expect the man to make videos on all the “biblical errors” at one time. That’s just a Gish Gallop fallacy.
@@doggoslayer5679 My point is that IP picks minor 'errors' instead of addressing actual serious errors and contradictions
I'm a big fan of these but seriously? I'm a mythisist but never heard this argument.
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Can you one day talk about Mary's perpetual virginity?
@Saros N But Catholic continue to believe this doctrine.
People like John Loftus make me laugh. He is willing to put himself before thousands of years of scholars, experts, etc, and act like he’s figured out all these mistakes and contradictions that no one else has. More importantly, he publishes a book to make money off of this revelation and certainty. This suggests that money is a driving force in his life, and that his preaching days were likely just another con for him to make money. The callousness and ignorance for someone to write a book like his is a good reminder of the types of evil in this world.
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I feel like atheism is right in the middle of a Christian-education sandwich😂💯
Uneducated: He had time to get the linen and do all that, there is no reason why he couldn’t🥴
Semi educated: no it was the Sabbath so he can’t work😎
Fully Educated: actually it was a festival Sabbath so they still could🤓
How do you people believe in all this stuff?
If Jesus was crucified on Friday, then this is all feasible. However given the amount of well-informed research you do, I’m surprised you don’t realize the difference between sabbath and high sabbath which messes up people’s chronologies. The last supper was Tuesday night, the arrest that evening, crucifixion on Wednesday, burial Wednesday night, in the tomb three days and three nights, resurrected after sunset on Shabbat and before sunrise on Sunday. This is confirmed by the Qumran calendar and other ancient church fathers
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@Saros N Triggered, eh? Were you equally triggered when thousands upon thousands make the claim every single day that there is a god?
@Saros N These are simple 'yes' or 'no' questions.
@Saros N Oh, so there is a _real_ god? So tell me about this 'real' god. Have you observed this god?
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