At that pace, you'll finish melting all those cans in about eight years. I advise smashing the cans flat, lengthwise, taking a metal sheer and cutting the cans into three pieces each. That way, you can get more in the crucible and melt them much faster. I saw another man who had a shredder, and shredded all of his aluminum cans first, and that was highly effective. But it was cost prohibitive unless you’re doing a huge amount of melting. So, the shears should do an okay job. Shear as you save the cans, not all at once. That aluminum muffin ingot should’ve been melted FIRST, and then put the cans in, not in the middle or end of the melt.
why are you melting cans I'm not understanding once you melt it is scrap right? scrap goes for a lot less money where I live. I get 1.98 a lb for cans and I get .30 a lb for scrap. what am I missing here?
For someone who doesn't have the rss it's more economical to keep the cans then to sell them, it's more valuable then 20 cents a lb to someone like you or I I save mine for long term storage no selling!
how does that make sense since the only value in an aluminum can will be if it can sell and since you say there's no point in selling it, it has no value in storage.
Unless is a sand casting mallet for packing greensand then a aluminium hammer seems a bit odd ! Cant imagine what you could use an aluminium hammer for !
once you remove the crucible to pour into a mold, can you continue the melting or will the charcoal collapse, not allowing the crucible to sit snuggly back inside?
Personally, when I used a charcoal furnace, I could fit my crucible back in a couple times. If you are taking it seriously, I would highly recommend building a propane forge or buy one. Devil Forges are great. Propane is much cleaner, much faster, and much more enjoyable I feel. *The charcoal furnance is cheap and does the job, and is good for getting into metal melting if you are just testing the waters. Hope this helped - Ryder
Well if your doing it like me with a steel bucket with fire proof concrete walls (with a hole on the side with has a tube that blows air for the charcoal) it is really easy ti put the crucible back in, just carefully try to make a small hole and put it back in, also turn of the air before you do it. Hope it helps 👍
+Yes! you can get 5 cents / can, in NY state, BUT, the cans must be whole, not smashed. It takes a dump truck of cans to make $40....barely pays for the fuel to get there.
Slag is also from Melting, Casting and Forging, Dross and Slag are effectively the same thing just with a different name as both refer to impurities left over after metal processing
Slag is definitely the term you use when skimming impurities from molten metal. I worked in a steel foundry long ago and thats the only term they used that i know of. Slag. I know what you mean by chipping off slag from welds with a chipping hammer also. Dross is something i never heard back then. Maybe all the same.
Jeez you're hooked on Gamer Juice it seems, but good job anyways! One thing you can do to prevent the decarb "pop" that you get from the steam is to just jab the can with a screwdriver before you put it into the pot to make a small hole in it, it'll push the air out of 2 holes and remove the risk of pressure feedback
Although it seems cool to melt cans into ingots, they are pretty useless unless you are making more cans. Can stock is very soft. It doesn't machine or cast well. Same with almost all stamped or extruded aluminum. If you actually want to make something other than useless blocks of metal, start with something from the junk yard that already was cast aluminum, such as an intake manifold, a transmission housing, a water pump or a cylinder head. Those alloys are formulated to be cast and then machined.
Ya u got the rythem right. BUT WHAT DO U DO WHEN UR CRUSIBLE FAILS BECAUSE THEY WILL FAIL AN ALL UR METAL DRAINS IN THAT AIR PIPE. U SHOULD DRILL A HOLE ON THE LOWER SIDE AN PUT UR AIR PIPE OF UR FORGE AN PUT A CATCH PAN AT THE BOTOM OF UR FORGE SINCE THERE'S ALREADY A HOLE SO WHEN UR CRUSIBLE FAILS UR MOLTEN METAL DRAINS OUT OF UR FORGE INTO THE CATCH PAN. JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT BRA.
What were you using for a crucible? I know its steel. Do you know the name of steel pot you got? Also what brand of charcoal chimney were you using? Mind sharing the dimensions. Thanks,
I just picked up a 3 pack of stainless steel kitchen containers at walmart and used the large one. they are intended for sugar or flour storage but they work. beware that they are thin and after a few uses can melt through the side. I've not yet made a different crucible but it would be worth looking into. CZcams is full of crucible ideas.
u could get it even hotter by shortening the length of your pipe.. it doesnt need to be nearly that long, maybe 1.5 feet at the most id say, but whatever works for u. great vid!
+Bricko Gaming Potassium Nitrate is commonly used as an exothermic addition to aluminum dross after you have fluxed the metal and before you skim it off, where you mix it into the dross on top of the melt with the skimmer. The Potassium Nitrate reacts with the aluminum releasing heat, but also oxidizing the metal. The higher heat helps the metal become more fluid and easily drained. It should be used carefully. I typically use 1 tablespoon for a 1300 lb crucible after injecting about two pounds of flux. The dross often gets very hot, in the range of 1800 - 2500 degrees. Dumping the dross into something that is not absolutely dry can result in an explosion of hot metal and dross. Since you can never get all the aluminum out of your dross, there are a lot of companies, such as Alchem, that will purchase dross for around 10 cents per pound. That is good because otherwise, the dross is considered a hazardous waste by the EPA, making it illegal to just dump in the trash.
The finer the Potassium Nitrate, the faster it will react. The stuff in bead form reacts slowly, meaning that people often add too much. The KNO3 will keep reacting long after you have finished skimming the furnace. It can be a bit of a fire hazard and generate a lot of aluminum oxide and aluminum chloride smoke. If you are buying beads, grind it up first into a fine powder.
Aluminum is around 31 cents a pound right now. Your spending more on the charcoal than what the aluminum cans are worth. Can’t see the logic here? Plus your time and effort.
No joke and I don't even drink soda. its amazing how many cans people will give you if you ask. Most people realize that saving aluminum cans won't make you much money so they are happy to give them away.
you could have handed those cans into a scrap place for about 13$ brought a kilo of aluminum for 2$ and melted that possibly made a profit and a hammer depending on the cost of the melting process. Feels do it yourself man
In England u get more money for clean metal ie ingots and less for dirty metal or say a mixed bag metal because then it will have to be processed into clean why is this different in u.s.a your metal prices seem to be a little lean too?
I would rather melt aluminum pie plates and old foil than cans because I sell my cans for the recycling money. In fact, the last time I turned my cans in I got a little over $22 for them.
TheBalcerman yea, I am a kid who knows about engineering, lol, that's what my high school college engineering class us for, but bear with me, I'm still learning new shit... Can you tell me why an aluminum hammer? Or copper? All I can guess for them is some what like a rubber mallet, its soft enught where it'll only damage the hammer and not the part or what not? That's all I can come up with... And if you could help, it would be great.... :)
+Dustin Haynes it is done because aluminum is easy to melt and it is a good start for beginners. This is used as an example for things you can do with molten metal, aluminum being, as I said earlier, a good started metal to work with.
CamRudWaffle Ok, thank you, lol, I plan on doing some things this summer, melting aluminum down from pop cans and make myself things out of it, like a dood hinge, and all that cool stuff, lol, have you ever seen an ant hill with aluminum? If you haven't, look up Molten aluminum in an ant hill... Lol, me and my brothers want to do that... Lol
Dustin Haynes It causes less damage to whatever you are beating with it, also it won't create sparks, so you can use it around flammables. I've never seen aluminum or copper hammers, but have a couple of lead and brass hammers. Plastic dead blow hammers have pretty much replaced them I think.
Because we Americans were not careful of keeping the proper ending. I have a book which speaks on this: "That commonest metal is element No. 13, the name of which is aluminum. That name ends in "um," not "ium," but the British are more careful and remember the proper ending. They call the metal aluminium." - BUILDING BLOCKS of the UNIVERSE, Isaac Asimov, page 118.
Great video, great explanation. Thank you for posting this. Very helpful.
Can you show how you set up your melter
At that pace, you'll finish melting all those cans in about eight years.
I advise smashing the cans flat, lengthwise, taking a metal sheer and cutting the cans into three pieces each. That way, you can get more in the crucible and melt them much faster. I saw another man who had a shredder, and shredded all of his aluminum cans first, and that was highly effective. But it was cost prohibitive unless you’re doing a huge amount of melting. So, the shears should do an okay job. Shear as you save the cans, not all at once.
That aluminum muffin ingot should’ve been melted FIRST, and then put the cans in, not in the middle or end of the melt.
Vise grips are very handy to have.
Where did you buy the stainless steel can to melt the aluminum in?
IS ALUMINUM easy to break?
what do you use for a crucible?
Thanks it was great advice
Can I Use Large Metal Pipe for Furnace?
Somewhere in the universe, a lifeform is hungry for aluminum cupcakes.
This comment has made me question the universe and how we really are insignificant as humans. Thank you durrpadil buddy boy.
Very helpful. Thank you man.✌️
why are you melting cans I'm not understanding once you melt it is scrap right? scrap goes for a lot less money where I live. I get 1.98 a lb for cans and I get .30 a lb for scrap. what am I missing here?
For someone who doesn't have the rss it's more economical to keep the cans then to sell them, it's more valuable then 20 cents a lb to someone like you or I I save mine for long term storage no selling!
Casting
how does that make sense since the only value in an aluminum can will be if it can sell and since you say there's no point in selling it, it has no value in storage.
why do you have to wait for the crucible to glow before adding aluminum?
Aaron Osters You don't have to wait. It's just nice to see them hit the glowing bottom and start melting quickly.
Unless is a sand casting mallet for packing greensand then a aluminium hammer seems a bit odd ! Cant imagine what you could use an aluminium hammer for !
once you remove the crucible to pour into a mold, can you continue the melting or will the charcoal collapse, not allowing the crucible to sit snuggly back inside?
Personally, when I used a charcoal furnace, I could fit my crucible back in a couple times.
If you are taking it seriously, I would highly recommend building a propane forge or buy one. Devil Forges are great.
Propane is much cleaner, much faster, and much more enjoyable I feel.
*The charcoal furnance is cheap and does the job, and is good for getting into metal melting if you are just testing the waters.
Hope this helped
- Ryder
Well if your doing it like me with a steel bucket with fire proof concrete walls (with a hole on the side with has a tube that blows air for the charcoal) it is really easy ti put the crucible back in, just carefully try to make a small hole and put it back in, also turn of the air before you do it. Hope it helps 👍
What kind of container did you use for the out side to hold the charcoal and where did you buy it?
The container he used was a chimney starter normally used for grillimg
80 cans to make 1 pound of aluminum...according to my experience. The local scrapyard only gives me 55 cents/ pound.
+Ellington Vengaboys Preservation Museum melting them is fun
+Yes! you can get 5 cents / can, in NY state, BUT, the cans must be whole, not smashed. It takes a dump truck of cans to make $40....barely pays for the fuel to get there.
this vid is helpful! :)
33 cans = 1 pound
"Slag" is welding. The term you're looking for is "dross"
Slag is also from Melting, Casting and Forging, Dross and Slag are effectively the same thing just with a different name as both refer to impurities left over after metal processing
@@gdukofficial really? I've never once heard "dross" used in welding
Slag is definitely the term you use when skimming impurities from molten metal. I worked in a steel foundry long ago and thats the only term they used that i know of. Slag. I know what you mean by chipping off slag from welds with a chipping hammer also. Dross is something i never heard back then. Maybe all the same.
what is the material of the inside container that you use to melt the cans?
Steel.
Jeez you're hooked on Gamer Juice it seems, but good job anyways! One thing you can do to prevent the decarb "pop" that you get from the steam is to just jab the can with a screwdriver before you put it into the pot to make a small hole in it, it'll push the air out of 2 holes and remove the risk of pressure feedback
Although it seems cool to melt cans into ingots, they are pretty useless unless you are making more cans. Can stock is very soft. It doesn't machine or cast well. Same with almost all stamped or extruded aluminum. If you actually want to make something other than useless blocks of metal, start with something from the junk yard that already was cast aluminum, such as an intake manifold, a transmission housing, a water pump or a cylinder head. Those alloys are formulated to be cast and then machined.
An Aluminum Hammer - Hmmn, that would be a really nice hammer. LOL
How long does it take before the first can starts to melt?
Sometimes it may take 10 min sometimes take like 1.5 depends on how hot the crucible is
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Ya u got the rythem right. BUT WHAT DO U DO WHEN UR CRUSIBLE FAILS BECAUSE THEY WILL FAIL AN ALL UR METAL DRAINS IN THAT AIR PIPE. U SHOULD DRILL A HOLE ON THE LOWER SIDE AN PUT UR AIR PIPE OF UR FORGE AN PUT A CATCH PAN AT THE BOTOM OF UR FORGE SINCE THERE'S ALREADY A HOLE SO WHEN UR CRUSIBLE FAILS UR MOLTEN METAL DRAINS OUT OF UR FORGE INTO THE CATCH PAN. JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT BRA.
what kind of can did he use to melt the aluminum?
Pop cans anykind if that's what your asking
What were you using for a crucible? I know its steel. Do you know the name of steel pot you got? Also what brand of charcoal chimney were you using? Mind sharing the dimensions. Thanks,
I just picked up a 3 pack of stainless steel kitchen containers at walmart and used the large one. they are intended for sugar or flour storage but they work. beware that they are thin and after a few uses can melt through the side. I've not yet made a different crucible but it would be worth looking into. CZcams is full of crucible ideas.
u could get it even hotter by shortening the length of your pipe.. it doesnt need to be nearly that long, maybe 1.5 feet at the most id say, but whatever works for u. great vid!
This is an enjoyable video
Where did you get all of those cans
Saving them from the cases
watch how it's made pop cans the puff is the lacquer on the inside of can
awesome to know. I assumed it was the sugar or left over soda. thanks for the info. either way its important to keep the mouth up.
Tried it didn't work
It would go quicker if you crushed. And less oxidation.
Cool
So how did you get the coals on fire?
If you have to ask that, you shouldn't really be doing this.
Original PvP I would use just reg lighter fluid.
plz make more vid
If you make ignots with them then you can sell them for $5 or maybe even $20 each.
+haywood jeblome Aluminum is $1.60 per pound.
Fatty Hamster Maybe it only costs that much if its cans but you can get more if its a solid ignot.
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what can i do with slag as i have loads of it
Put it in the bin 😂
+Levi Witney ok i didnt know if you could do anything with it i hav a batch of 50 ingots now its to fun smelting stuff lol
add kno3(stump remover) and kcl(low sodium salt) to your molten aluminium and you will not have a ton of slag like this guy
+Bricko Gaming Potassium Nitrate is commonly used as an exothermic addition to aluminum dross after you have fluxed the metal and before you skim it off, where you mix it into the dross on top of the melt with the skimmer. The Potassium Nitrate reacts with the aluminum releasing heat, but also oxidizing the metal. The higher heat helps the metal become more fluid and easily drained. It should be used carefully. I typically use 1 tablespoon for a 1300 lb crucible after injecting about two pounds of flux. The dross often gets very hot, in the range of 1800 - 2500 degrees. Dumping the dross into something that is not absolutely dry can result in an explosion of hot metal and dross. Since you can never get all the aluminum out of your dross, there are a lot of companies, such as Alchem, that will purchase dross for around 10 cents per pound. That is good because otherwise, the dross is considered a hazardous waste by the EPA, making it illegal to just dump in the trash.
The finer the Potassium Nitrate, the faster it will react. The stuff in bead form reacts slowly, meaning that people often add too much. The KNO3 will keep reacting long after you have finished skimming the furnace. It can be a bit of a fire hazard and generate a lot of aluminum oxide and aluminum chloride smoke. If you are buying beads, grind it up first into a fine powder.
will that work for gold
yep but may need better equipment,and more than a hairdryer maybe to
At some point my crusable failed and molten aluminum rushed in the pipe to the hairdryer,and you know what happened next😂😂😂
weres part 2
I wish to do something like this
Don't let your dreams be dreams
What is Slag?
5% Charged Residue separated after the metal has melted. mostly metal oxides
be carefull. Check water in cans. Becouse If there is water It will start blow out
It evaporates if he puts them mouth up.
Yeah what he said
Dew it yourself
Great idea, ingenious actually. Intro way too long.
Aluminum is around 31 cents a pound right now. Your spending more on the charcoal than what the aluminum cans are worth. Can’t see the logic here? Plus your time and effort.
so much mountain dew
No joke and I don't even drink soda. its amazing how many cans people will give you if you ask. Most people realize that saving aluminum cans won't make you much money so they are happy to give them away.
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you could have handed those cans into a scrap place for about 13$ brought a kilo of aluminum for 2$ and melted that possibly made a profit and a hammer depending on the cost of the melting process. Feels do it yourself man
In England u get more money for clean metal ie ingots and less for dirty metal or say a mixed bag metal because then it will have to be processed into clean why is this different in u.s.a your metal prices seem to be a little lean too?
The correct term is Dross, not Slag.
Boii
True enough. I guess I was off because i heard others call it that. thanks for the correction.
They both mean the same thing. Slag is just large amounts of dross.
Exploding_Potato No.... Slag is produced from melting Iron Ore. Dross is produced from melting Gold, Silver, Aluminium etc.
Ozfoxecutioner Really? huh, well sorry about that.
PS: When you say iron ore do you mean ferrous metals in general or only iron ore?
so much mtn dew cans
i can take the cans to iowa an get a nickel for all the cans you had lol
I would rather melt aluminum pie plates and old foil than cans because I sell my cans for the recycling money. In fact, the last time I turned my cans in I got a little over $22 for them.
Casting
An aluminum hammer? Really? Hahaha
Dustin Haynes You must be some kid who knows shit about engineering. No wonder you haven't heard about aluminum and copper hammers.
TheBalcerman yea, I am a kid who knows about engineering, lol, that's what my high school college engineering class us for, but bear with me, I'm still learning new shit... Can you tell me why an aluminum hammer? Or copper? All I can guess for them is some what like a rubber mallet, its soft enught where it'll only damage the hammer and not the part or what not? That's all I can come up with... And if you could help, it would be great.... :)
+Dustin Haynes it is done because aluminum is easy to melt and it is a good start for beginners. This is used as an example for things you can do with molten metal, aluminum being, as I said earlier, a good started metal to work with.
CamRudWaffle Ok, thank you, lol, I plan on doing some things this summer, melting aluminum down from pop cans and make myself things out of it, like a dood hinge, and all that cool stuff, lol, have you ever seen an ant hill with aluminum? If you haven't, look up Molten aluminum in an ant hill... Lol, me and my brothers want to do that... Lol
Dustin Haynes
It causes less damage to whatever you are beating with it, also it won't create sparks, so you can use it around flammables. I've never seen aluminum or copper hammers, but have a couple of lead and brass hammers. Plastic dead blow hammers have pretty much replaced them I think.
Why do Americans pronounce aluminium aluminum?
Because we Americans were not careful of keeping the proper ending. I have a book which speaks on this:
"That commonest metal is element No. 13, the name of which is aluminum. That name ends in "um," not "ium," but the British are more careful and remember the proper ending. They call the metal aluminium." - BUILDING BLOCKS of the UNIVERSE, Isaac Asimov, page 118.
Jk I never tried it
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