Popular Muslim Couple Misunderstands Islam (MehdinaTV)
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- Let's talk about MehdinaTV, a popular Muslim couple that shares experiences and information about their Islamic way of life. Unfortunately, the information is very inaccurate.
00:00 Who are they?
00:39 Leaving Islam
02:22 What is Sharia?
04:50 Islam vs Christianity
06:11 Preservation of the Quran
08:42 No Good Reason for Islam
12:38 Conclusion
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Yes, having to dress as a letter box everyday is like, so liberating...
….. Modesty
@@luvsaarr I wouldn’t have a problem with hijab if men aren’t allowed to basically be naked while women have to cover head to toe. If there wasn’t such a huge double standard in hijab I don’t think most people would have a problem
Islam does not require the face covering. Its a cultural thing. Mostly saudi. The quran gives women more power than the holy bible.
@@ManlyCynicalStoic and men are allowed 4 wives. What a farce.
Haha yes indeed
She said it herself. “Some people research more and leave Islam” that was the smartest thing she said.
LOL!!
😂😂😂 i caught that too lool
😎😎😎😎
Thats mean they dont research, they are sparraw
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These people have no idea how lucky they are to be able to live in a free western country.
But they are are not free because a religion has bound them🤣🤣🤣
What a joke? Most muslims in the west wish they could live in muslim country!
that woman looks like a ninja. Doesn't look free
@@oscaralegre3683 So you are saying ninjas are not free?
@@nami20622 probably not
As an ex-Mormon. This is exactly what every Mormon says to justify their belief as well. It’s like they think they are the only people to experience this stuff.
Exactly. It's just a really big cult basically.
Mormon??
@@Skylily00179 Mormons are A Christian Group that don't believe in The Trinity
@@Skylily00179Christians with extra steps like the catholics
@@Skylily00179Mormon is a nickname for Latter Day Saints. Just like every church there are a lot of different branches and stuff, like the crazy things you hear on the internet. I've traveled a lot and have seen all sorts of wards (that's what we call each individual group in a city) and every one is different. I'm not Mormon anymore, it isn't my cup of tea but this person above clearly has had bad experiences.
A woman celebrating Islam is like a turkey celebrating Thanksgiving
Gosh. That's a nice way to explain it 🤣
Apus destroyed
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@@ne3583 Prophet Mopus was destroyed too. He was poisoned and died a humiliating death alhamdulilah.
@@thenun1846 u better think about what ur saying. U will have no excuse when u will stand infront of god.
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@@ne3583 lol I'm not afraid of your impotent god Allah who has a shin and a chair. Your threats are empty.
Did you know that after prophet Mopus died, he was left out for 3 days until his body started rotting before they buried him alhamdulilah
Any muslim who says sharia is good should be sent to Afghanistan
I'm fed up with these extremists
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But i keep hearing Kerala will have Sharia soon ...
@Lalith Kumar ask a kannadiga what does "Shia" mean lol
@@beofgoodcheer3348 Please tell
@@sapien9043 it's a slang word for pubic hair in the kannada language lol
No one came after her friend because she lives in a non Muslim country.
I know 3 people who left islam. One is living in Germany undercover now because her turkish father wanted to kill her, one left lybia and is living in Germany as a refugee now because his former best friends were hunting him and attacked him constantly when he opened to them that he left it. Another girl got completely cancelled by her whole family when she left islam (she's from saudi arabia and I know a girl from istanbul who also would love to openly quit it but she got also told that her whole family will quit her if she does... and those are only people I'm friends with... I know way more cases through other friends and my job.
That's so scary, it just goes to show how the married couple in the video are very wrong to say that people won't go after you for leaving.
@@TehyaSB it is and it shows also how strong the system is.
That's what cults do.
I can feel your ex muslim friend's feeling as a ex muslim turhish woman. I am grateful for my father respect me. But ıcant say same thing gor my mom. I hope she can love me in the future. And sorry for my English if ı sad something wrong
And people say Muammar Gaddafi was a great philanthropist for his country. I wonder what your Libyan friend feels about that
"My friend left Islam, no one coming after them" what she needs to realise is they live in a western country and if they are quiet about it no one will know, unlike in Islamic country even non family member will question everything from "Why are you not praying?" "Not fasting?" It's not about the religion itself, but extremely religious people that insist everyone should be following Islam like they should.
If they can get u in the West they will too. There are stories of some ex-Muslims who have been killed in the West. There was the story of the Egyptian family killed in New Jersey after they left in their home. In Dearborn, the police are known to cover what's happening amongst Muslim families. In the UK it's worst. Someone tried to slaughter Hatun at the famouS speaker's corner after many attacks. Europe is not any different. Ayaan Hirsi on a death list, etc. In Nigeria, a Ph.D. converts in the UK and married to a British woman, gladly went back home to see his family after many years, and announced his newfound faith in Christianity amongst other things. He was lucky they didn't kill him but was placed in a live-in Madarassa, his legs and hands chained like an animal, with many other children and adults, their families considered renegade, drug addicts, etc, to relearn their Islamic faith by any means possible. The property was busted early this year or late last year, hope he made it back to the UK. He doesn't know what Islam says about apostate. U aren't even safe with ur family.
It's like saying "My friend met Jeffery Epstein, and she didn't get raped"
In which country can’t you be a non-praying and non-fasting Muslim? Sounds like you’re full of sh…
Anyone who fails to follow Islam is an evil immoral promiscuous apostate. They are destined for hell.
@Pull out the lapel my parents, my brother 😌 also, my friends since we attended islamic school. Whenever we go out we always taking "a break" to pray and they will ask if I am in my period since I'm not going with them. Maybe you're just so good at being sneaky.
Saying people can leave Islam without others coming after you is DANGEROUS and flat out false advice. People WILL come after you depending on what country you live in.
Even in England, five men from a Bradford mosque attacked Nissar Hussain (apostate) with bats and axes. Canadian and American families have k!lled apostates, too. Canadian and American women converted and married Muslim men. Later on, they had doubts about Islam. Their husbands took the kids to a Muslim majority country, where she has no rights. So, it is not safe to leave Islam in Western countries.
Thats why islam is the fastest growing religion
not in the biggest muslim-country
@@ihaventshoweredin6weeksbut527 it's fastest breading religion
praticually no unless that person just offeneds the religion itself
“Some people research more and leave Islam”
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Thats why islam is the fastest growing religion and christianity is the fastest declining one right ?
@@sananshahid6724 maybe because in alot of these Muslim majority countries they are forced to convert to Islam or pay a large fee for so called protection-basically paying off a gang as we would in western society not to hurt you for not joining. Without the threats and force no rational normal person would join Islam. Why did so many Muslims run and try to escape places that will enforce Islam and sharia law even jumping onto planes taking off to escape the countries where Islam is prevalent?
The only statement she made that I agree with
@@Man_Of_Christ wow so sigma
@@sananshahid6724 I will never understand people who use words like sigma
It is genuinely dangerous to claim that anything can be a good deed if done for a god...
Exactly that part creeped me out
True. Mayans and Aztecs believed they were doing a good deed by tearing the still beating hearts out of ten thousand virgins a day, because it was for their god. But was it, really, a good deed?
My literal first thought that came to mind was "so if I kill someone and claim I did it for God, does it then become good?"
Example of something that was a good deed, because it was done for god, Allegedly according to your "Bible" the Lord said, "Now go and attack Amalek, and Utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." Samuel 15:3 now you really telling me god couldn't spare the babies, no where within the Quran is killing woman and babies okay, it's forbidden even in war.
@@fernandocabrera6707 you tell me?
"What I like about being Muslim is that everything is chill".
- A Westerner Muslim.
hahahah
only thing thats not tru about .....
For a pure muslims Western culture is haram
funny how muslims behave when they arent a majority.
MagnumOpus I agree
The young man might have changed religions just to marry the woman. She seems to be in control of the relationship. Note that he looks at her almost constantly--not so with her. His understanding of Christianity is superficial and his need for rules speaks volumes.
Agreed. I’ve watched a few of there videos and I got the same vibe.
Yep, I noticed that as well, he either wanted vilification or was checking to make sure he hadn’t gone off script and face the consequences when the camera stopped rolling. Either way he didn’t come across as a very confident young man.
I knew a devout Christian pastor that suddenly left Christianity for Islam. Then I met his new drop dead gorgeous Muslim wife and it all made sense.
Definitely a lot of codependent vibes happening.
Yeah, no wonder his family cutting ties off. Honestly, no woman is worth cutting off that much ties in the name of Islam
the fact that the guy looks the girl when speaking as if he was insecure of what he’s manipulated to say gives me chills. poor guy, I hope he leaves that toxic relationship and religion soon!
He’ll become an apostate and have a target on his back.
He's being brainwashed
He looks at her like:" hey is that right? " he is in need of her confirmation which proves that he doesn't trust what he believes in
The guy is a tool.
He's looking at her because she's the one that was a Muslim first. So I think he just is deferring to her knowing more.
imagine your whole life revolving around a book written 1400 yrs ago.
Okay and? Thats how it should be. We all should follow the words of Allah SWT. May Allah guide you.
@@leiiha1228 which Qur'an u follow?
@@leiiha1228 lmao get a life
@@leiiha1228 LMAO you’re so ignorant I can’t stop laughing 😂😂
If only it was interesting Quran is just straight up boring hateful repetitive
Ex-muslim from Turkey 🇹🇷🇹🇷
Me too🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Bless you both for see the light and follow your dreams the way you see fit
@@berkwizard8657 vay reis
@@xali69 Pork is delicious and nutricious. Try some!
I heard that most ex muslims from Turkey get on with Armenians alot better. Plus they admit that the Armenian Genocide did happen and that the ottoman empire was a brutal regime.
Just look how this guy constantly looks for his wife’s approval. She clearly runs him.
Looks like the unislamic way if running a family
@@labrat585 lol exactly, this chick even said she converted him to Islam. I don’t think he knows who Muhammad was, because Muhammad didn’t stand for womanz
@@jj691 “chick”
@@rainbow7830 chick, chicken, bird 🐥
@@jj691 how Muhammad (pbuh) literally freed girls from dying before Muhammad (pbuh) women and girls were being buried alive and Muhammad (pbuh) stopped that
This guy is genuinely in love with the girl... She has such control over him
This is the case with all converts who converted to the religion for the sake of living with their so called love who can't accept them for who they are .
TRUE. @@Mira-pm3ni
Where Islam ends , Humanity begins
Dude what you mean ?
@@Vexin70Wissenchaft-gz3np he means 💥💥 😅💀👍
As clear as crystal 😇
So true
Thats why islam is the fastest growing religion and christianity is the fastest declining one right ?
Respecting your parents has nothing to do with religion. It's the way you are raised that teaches you manors and morals
agreed
I agree with that, its most of the people back then and nowadays they not respecting the parents.
The question is: from where did you know that disrespect your parents is bad?
not true, my parents were selfish bastards and couldnt raise me to save their lives
it was because of my pursuit of jesus that made me question my lifestyle and want to be a better person
@@InitialPC i like that, may god bless you
@@InitialPC ❤❤❤
Looking at the woman, it feels like a bird in a cage saying, "I'm absolutely free."
... and after these recordings she was!!! idk???
who knows when the camera is off?
@@jesuslovesu3948 😂
@J Lund Exactly!
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Do you think he throws a blanket over her when he’s tired of her squawking like a bird in a bird cage?
I'm an atheist. I feel so connected to LIFE!!
SAMEEEEE ❤❤❤❤
So are you ex Muslim or were you raised atheist? Either way I rather be atheist then Muslim but have you considered Christianity. It's a very good idea to do a little research on it and if you like it you should convert. Of course the choice is you and I would be a fool if I told you you had to convert. It wouldn't be Christian to force somebody to love God, that is something Muslims always fail to see.
@@Man_Of_Christ I was born to atheist parents. We never ever spoke about religion at home. I have allways found it strange that people even today can believe in a god. One of my best friends is a very devouted christian. We have no problem being best friends as each of us respects the others belief.
Have you considered agnosticism? Can you really deny the existence of a creator?
@@Persephone_88 I agree, as a Christian I have no doubt about a creator, I pray other people will start to believe. I pray for all of them to have a good life, one where they can love God 🙏☦
He wasn’t Christian and people like this are dangerous because they act like they know and then choose another way. It’s a terrible lie that leads people away from their faith I have a problem with these people
When you are poorly catechized this will happen.
It's amusing how that guy turned his head towards his wife too much instead of his audiences. as if he's seeking her validation for every point he made
He is wearing an invisible leash
Talking about that,he turned his head 4x in less than 6 seconds
I saw the same, any comment he did,was looking to her to see if he was answering properly.
OMG. Yes! I wouldn't have realized that if you didn't point it out. It makes so much sense
That is what a conversation looks like? I think he is just exited and wanted to keep the eye contact between him the camera and her ....
"Quran is unchanged since 1400 years"
Yeah thats exactly what the problem is 🤣
they cant understand lol
@@moosachaudhry2209 😂😂😂😂😂
@@moosachaudhry2209 Quran is perfect lol.. perfect saying about slaves and slavery laws..😂😂?
Are you still obeying Islamic slavery rules .in modern 21Th CE 🤔🤔😂
@@moosachaudhry2209 😂I asked about slavery..not about blah allah slaves
@@moosachaudhry2209 I asked.if .Quran is perfect for all Era..Why that book saying about slavery laws and rules .?
Did your community still Obeying slavery of rules..? Buying man or woman..like that slavery.?
I cannot ignore the fact how that guy kept looking at his wife like he’s looking for validation for everything he’s saying. The things he said that helped him are rather things he couldn’t do by just being a responsible adult, you don’t need any religion for that.
He was looking at his wife because he converted recently, which means he was waiting for her to correct him if he made a mistake, even if he was giving his opinion wouldn't he be more comfortable talking to his wife than the camera.
Her having the French hat on her ninja outfit is too funny 😂 French Revolution but keep it halal
😂😂😂
I've noticed this trend among hijabis/nikabis to wear hats on top of their veil. While I don't want to be disrespectful, it does look kinda funny and redundant to me 😅
I'm brand new to my research in Islam and I see so many problems with their statements. They might as well say "our personal 2021 version of Islam in the west is this way".
Exactly right Derek. They basically have a framework that would say something like "what characteristics will surprise or seem pleasing to a westerner"
They then inject these characteristics into their statements even if it's blatantly false, because they're the Muslims they somehow have the authority to speak on behalf of Islam and a non critical thinker is none the wiser
Keep viewing the numerous videos on YT & your knowledge level will shoot up quickly. Al Fadi, Jay Smith, Mel & many others have great videos.
This timelines and graphics on the isIxmic scriptures are worth gold:
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***///////////are all prophets according to the Quran///////////////***
@@Hannestv4607 wut
Once they made a YT short about the people he's allowed to live alone with. They made a point to say he's allowed to live with his uncle, but NOT with his gay uncle. After actually getting some backlash for this in the comments, he clarified that "he loves his uncle, but living with him could cause him to stray from his faith."
Like... if thats the case your faith is already on shaky ground.
I remember that. I was like...how is your uncle being gay effect your religiousness? Is he afraid the gay will rub off on him? Weird.
Sweet couple though. I do like them. But, their ideas are not very good.
True.I don't understand why they blindly follow all these rules without even seeking properly first.Too much brainwashed.They can't even shake hands in Job interview with opposite gender....wth
Hey could you give me the link to the video?
what he meant by that wasn’t that he was afraid that his uncle might “turn him gay” but instead that he would be straying from his faith by living with someone who does something sinful (in the eyes of his religion). there would be possibilities of his uncle having over a man/boyfriend (and doing what couples do) that would make him feel like he is disobeying his god.
the gay uncle might introduce things like gay acceptance
Its weird how much many Muslims change coming to America. They usually remain Muslim but in my group of friends they tend to drop most of the doctrine. I have muslim friends who are good friends with gays, women, everyone. They still pray 5 times a day, but they realize it doesn't really work if you aren't surrounded by only Muslims.
Oh man! That man in white skull cap sitting with a talking letterbox is sounding so desperate.
What mailbox, and that's not funny
she chose that, dont insult our religion 😂😂
@@sananshahid6724We can insult whatever we want.
@@salvador8923 you are a loser if you have nothing better to do then to insult a random couple
Stay mad kid
I feel sad for that guy, he doesn't even know that he is being manipulated by his wife. He constantly looks at her and it feels like he is trying to say "am i doing this right?am I saying the right things?"
Agree. When he study Islam. He will realized what Islam really is
Sad life . I hope he sees the what's exactly things are going on
@Star Anonymous Lite what concerns is that there is no freedom if it's not accordance to them.
@Star Anonymous Lite the moment it criticizes and says only people worshiping Allah will go to heaven and others will go to hell , it creates ripple of hatred in other religions. Nothing is perfect!
@Star Anonymous Lite watch Christian prince
People with anxiety disorders are drawn to structure, order, schedules. This lets them know what to expect, what to do, how to act. This reduces anxiety. Many of the things he said lead me to believe he has anxiety and as Islam tells him what to do in the micro and macro, makes him feel calm.
Oh wow! You have a good point. I have anxiety and structure helps me.
As someone with anxiety, this is true to an extent, but not exactly, its more out of fear of being tortured once you die, or fear of being excommunicated, or even killed, by your family in some cases. There are alot of other factors that can cause someone to follow a religious dogma. Structure can be pretty calming, but we simply have to just adapt to the fact that there is no such thing as a truly objective, infallible structure. We can only work with what we have available to us, and what comports with reality.
Yes. Some people like to be told what to do.
Make sense
Omg. I was actually interested in islam and I was never religious… But because I’m lost and I have anxiety. This actually makes sense… Lately, I was just not feeling right about it. I’ve listen to both sides and I’ve realised it’s not for me.
I live in a multi-religious society and often Christian men convert to Islam for the sake of their fiancé/wife. They suddenly become these very righteous all-knowing persons about Islam and show a much bigger interest in this "newly found" sense of religion because of their wife. To me this is not the right reasons to go and follow Islam. This couple reminds me of what I have seen so many times in my own community. I am not sure if this is the same background to them but it just reminds me of it.
Like king Solomon but can you blame these Christian men there aren't any Christian woman
In that couple, The Lady runs the relationship..she converted the guy n the guy just follows her.. He put her on the pedestal
once more: without lies, islam dies.
Correction: without lies, censorship and terror islam dies.
@@M-J-qn8td Yeah next time we should write a whole paragraph...
@@M-J-qn8td Correction failed. OP was perfect. Without lies all religions and all other superstitions die out. They all require and encourage thinking errors and fallacies to exist.
That is why it needs blasphemy laws
@@stylis666 not true.
"Every single thing you do in Islam can become a good deed if you change your intention to do it for god"....this is a very dangerous statement...is this not the mindset of martyrs??!!!
Please comment hate as much as possible in Medina tv and ninja mommy ...these ppl need to be stopped
Very good point! Major red flag alert 🚩
@@booksarelife9196 not a good idea.
@@booksarelife9196 Her fanatical followers reported me for hate speech, when I politely contradicted her. I was banned until a human actually read my comments. Actually, a large group of people should use the same tactic on her. We should report her videos for hate speech and misinformation. We should keep doing it, until her videos are de-monetized. While this contradicts my strong belief in Free Speech, Muslims do daily this to David Wood, AP and others.
This statement is appropriate for those who perform daily activities. for example, eating and exercising. we eat and exercise to stay healthy, so that we can do more good deeds . stuff like that. but things like stealing and other crimes are definitely not okay.
she is the husband of that family :)
LOL
I'm very late to the punch, but I admire how you, an atheist, have done your homework about religion and can argue it without bias.
Remember, Apostate Prophet WAS a Muslim and practiced Islam.
The real sin is men looking at women with lust. Not "Not covering up"
Exactly
That's not sin every human beings have lust and looking at someone with lust or not covering up both are not sin because thinking anything about anyone doest affect them I jerked of thinking dwayne Johnson it doest affect him in any way🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@annajose5525 did you just defend lust?
@@imlazyandiknowit4601 I don't see ant problem lust all human beings have that if you are thinking about somone in mind it doest affect anyone that's a narrow minded thinking lust is part of human nature and theres no problem as long as it doest affect others lust means strong sexual desire that's it
@@annajose5525 Jesus said "If you look in lust you have commited adultery in the heart" and he also said "I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother has commited murder in his heart".
Jesus magnified the law. The Torah/Law is still stands.
To a REAL Muslim, Islam is what Mohammad says it is. To a "liberal" Muslim, Islam is what I want it to be.
In a way this can be applied to just about every religion.
To many "real" Muslim men, their wife would not be speaking with or for them.
Good points.
Liberal Muslims don’t act like liberals of different religions. I have yet to see protests from liberal Muslims when radicals kill in the name of Islam or Allah. I always assumed that killing which is a sin for god would anger liberal Muslims. Those radicals are corrupting the image of the religion.
Or even be on camera.
A Real muslim follows and obeys Allah and quran. There is a book. No tradition needed. Mohammed worked for his wife. And she asked him to marry her. Not sure where these ideas come from other than being brainwashed
“Men are in charge of women.” That’s what Islam teaches 😂😂😂 yet, this guy isn’t in charge of anything!
I just watch her shorts on CZcams in *awe* as she cheerfully lists out what you can or cannot do as a muslimah like who you can show your face to. Imagine being a religion so intrusive you're so happy to know what absolutely basic shit you're _allowed_ to do.
its muslim choice to were a face vail
@@user-fh8ql8sg4uit’s not really a choice when you’ll get punished by Allah for not wearing it though😂
As a Muslim myself you made reasonable points that this argument is too emotional and about perception.
reason is the opposite of faith in mohammads alter ego
Once he said there was so many different versions of the Bible I was certain this guy was never a Christian or even a critical thinker.
Right. At that point I knew he converted to islam for her and now will do whatever she says
what? what about the catholic bible and the protestant bible or orthodox bible. Catholic have 6 or 7 more books in there bible compared to others. Of course there is versions of bibles in your religion. Watch videos of your own Christian apologists. Even they agree there are different versions of bible. Even there are change in words as well.
@@tawsiftahrim6032 if you spent as much time studying the claims you got from other people as you did saying them you wouldn’t say ridiculous things. Theres no catholic bible, those books are called the Deuteronomical canon (2nd canon), that are considered books of wisdom. The only difference between the denominations are whether or not they should use them in sermon and preaching. No researched scholar would say anything different from what I said, and would only say they’re different “versions” in the sense that the word Bible means a collection of books. The corpus called the Bible is the same however. No different than someone giving you the gospel of Mark, you don’t now how a different version of the Gospel. 99.9% of the Bible is identical, if different words between manuscripts from coping errors and translation makes different bibles then there’s dozens of Qurans.
The history of the church is well documented unlike the Quran with missing verses and chapters, or Islamic history that’s missing 2 centuries.
@@pa21thebeast First of all just because its not my claim doesn't mean that am wrong right? The christian themselves believe that those bibles differs in number of books. Yes I agree I don't have the potential to look it for my ownself. But in a debate with Ahmed Deedat and Pastor Stanley. Ahmed Deedat mentioned about this difference bibles of one catholic which is containing more books than the others and Pastor Stanley could not gave an answer on that. So now you are believing that catholic bible is not a bible...its a book of wisdom XD. Brother I don't know which Christian you are but go ahead say the same to your catholic friends. Now I would like to say the same to you actually. "If you spent as much time studying the claims you got from other people as you did saying them you wouldn’t say ridiculous things." Spent some time on Quran and show me those dozens of Quran with different verses. Go ahead I will be waiting. Because in my whole life I have never seen any scholars or person actually saying any different verses than the others. They quote the exact same Surahs and Verses. Now I know what you are actually talking about. It is the same thing you are believing which is false that there is a little bit change of words with the same meaning. But those words change a verse completely for example one of the verse it say to worship Jesus(PBUH) but now in Greek worship is three types so worship doesnt really mean that they bow down to him. But now in the new revised standard bible in that same verse they replace that word with bow down. Which it is clearly telling they bow down to Jesus (PBUH) but actually it was not. There many for example they change he to them or they which is actually creating confusion on people's head. But the dozens of Quran you are talking about is actually they are replacing that word with another word with the same meaning. Because if it was like that how you are describing Quran. Then like your religion there would've been also a division between us muslims. Now I know you will bring shia but brother our belief differs in only that we follow Abu Bakkar and they follow Ali (PBUT). Nothing else. We believe the same Quran and Surahs and Verses. And show me one video where the scholars differ when they speak for a particular Surah. You get caught lying here as there is no such difference in scholars opinion on Quran. SO if there are dozens of difference Quran then there would've been difference in opinions as well. And lastly the hadith you are talking about. Yes I agree that 200 years later it was combined together. But then again. There is a method of finding out which is true and which is false with the help of chain of narrations which even Christians don't have problems with that method. Go ahead and see for yourself how we identify the strong and weak narration Hadiths. I hope that would clear your misconceptions of 200 years thing.
@@tawsiftahrim6032 I don’t know if you have problems with reading comprehension or just want to pretend, I can’t find anywhere I said the catholic Bible is not a Bible. If you wanted further clarification ask for it instead of making a fool of yourself. I said clearly theres no “catholic Bible”, Catholics use the Bible + Deuteronical books in their church. Those books are considered canon by the church body but not part of the original bible. I don’t have to ask a catholic it’s well documented when these book were considered by the bishops and councils, again well documented history. All denominations agree completely on the books of the New Testament, and only differ on which Jewish scriptures are considered essential.
I don’t know who Pastor Stanley is, nor am I defined by his knowledge or lack of. I do know Ahmed Deedat and his videos are used as comedy. The man is 99.9% rhetoric and has been leading Muslims to mock their own religion for decades, it’s hilarious. The fact you think he’s an authority is even more hilarious. I’m sure you’re also a Zakir Naik fan too.
*7minutes in and their level of ignorance makes me cringe unbearably!*
YIKKKKESS
Right!!! I wanna smack my head against a wall listening to them for more than a minute
@@MM-oj8vb 💯😂
@@BLACK.ANGEL. You're not the only one
It's more cringe being obsessed with muslims thinking about them all day lol
@@generaljg4373 says the one who's commenting 24/7 under christian and atheist videos...kinda obsessed huh!?
Imagine having to cover your entire body except your eyes
Where are the feminists?
Leave islam now
My best friend started dating a "muslim" french female, they were talking at dinner table in her home and I don't remember how but the conversation got heated (due to conflicting views on life) and she was asked what would she do if her son was not muslim and she replied with "I would kick him out of my home" my friend ingeniously replied "what's the difference between you and a terrorist then"?
After that day he stopped seeing her. Best decision of his life.
Me on the other hand I've been talking to a closet atheist female for 4years now.
She wants to run away from saudi arabia but we don't know how to make it happen.
There are organizations who help have you tried contacting them
Love doesn't exist in Islam. Killing, obligation
Be careful and take your time in finding true people who can help leave that hellhole aka saudi arabia.
Hire Mosad!
a terrorist would kill the son
If the aesthetics and strictness of the religion appealed to him it's not hard to have researched Eastern Orthodoxy. His other reasons seem regurgitated ignorance.
The guy couldn't follow Christian teachings so he switched to Islam because it would punish him. Yeah he is bright and good. Muslims can keep him. I'm an atheist and don't mind trash humans representing religion since they only hurt the religion they are eith Luke this dude
I think that it's really for and because of his wife
@@stasiawright377 could be many people switch beliefs because they want to make their husband or wife happy
Orthodox represent!
Christian Orthodoxs are not that strict anymore, what are you taking about?
Her clothing choice makes me claustrophobic.
Appreciate your courage man. Thank you for teaching us 🙏
I can't believe any girl saying she’s got freedom to leave Islam when she's vailed up to her eyes.
She is free from worrying that there is a booger hanging out of her nose.
The main reason why they covered up was cuz their "prophet" lusted after a woman in the streets, so he ran home and ordered his wife to have sex with him to fill his urge. Funny jesus already said "whoever looks at a woman with lust ALREADY committed adultary in his heart"
@@misspikapika7972 ohhh really i never heard that before why dont you say where you got it from bro or any evidence where it says that the prophet did that stupid
@@amaniibrahim5599 It is in a verified Hadith. She is not making it up.
(I’m not Muslim) Being an attractive person in public isn’t always great. I’ve had men smelling my hair in queues. Being able to cover my hair and face is a blessing for me. Make your own choice, but if what they are doing isn’t hurting anyone just leave them alone.
His body language is very interesting. He looks like he checks with her every 3 words.
Me : Drinks water
Girl : There’s no country with sharia law
Me : Chokes on my water
Okay. I blocked this couple so that not even by mistake I see a video from them. But, here i am because of you..
I have been watching your channel since a couple days and have watched around 6-7 videos. I would literally bring flowers for you if I ever see you.
He "couldn't use his heart and mind until he found Islam", WTF
Islam does not require a brain. Maybe that is why it appeals to some people.
@@francoistombe sick burn bro…🤣
@@imlazyandiknowit4601 what he said?
The body language is bizarre... he can barely get through a sentence without glancing back at her for affirmation...
He has removed his testicles
@@nymgrace1227 She can do that to me if she wants
@@meatiest1989 she didn’t do it. He did it to herself
@@nymgrace1227 bruh
I was a Muslim but on 20th Nov. 2019, I got baptized. Trust me, I have never felt so much peace since then. I always feel that I am connected with God in a very special way and that sense of peace is not lost till today.😊
What difference does it make in what nonsense you believe other than that maybe Christians won't threaten you to death or some shit? Doesn't make God any more believable, does it?
May God always bless you 💖
I'm so very happy for you...
May god bless you ✝️👍
you went from one idiotic trainwreck to another
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.. trading one brainwashing idea for another. Way to go.
Fun fact this muslim immigrant live in Non-muslim Democratic country. 😂
And?
This really has nothing to do with the topic, but the way he always looks to his wife when he answers a question makes me feel kind of sad for him. He says he didn't, but it's very obvious (from their other videos) that he converted because he wanted to be with her.
Absolutely true
Yeah, and he’s whipped! I say this because she doesn’t even treat him with respect. She treats him like a little puppy who is in awe of everything she does.
He loves her, people put up with a lot when they love their partner.
I've seen it time and time again, many men and women convert to religions just to be with a person even if they don't know much about the belief system they're converting to.
@@tainii-san5879 that aint right tho bruh.
@@JesusIsLord7773 I know.
I understand the mindset , but understanding it also makes me sad for them.
If he ever had doubts and left she would ,even if she didn't want to,have to leave him because their religion dictates that a Muslim woman can't be with a non-Muslim man.
I've seen it, it makes me sorry for the people who become "believers" for others.
9:39 "in Islam, every single thing you do can become a good deed"
Boy, that's dangerous stuff there. If a Muslim lies deceitfully to a kafir and attributes it to Allah swt, it's a good deed. If a Muslim kills another person and attributes it to Allah swt, it's a good deed and will bring him closer to Allah. Truly Allahu ahkbar!
Exactly. Insane.
Even they can rape infidel women Allah will be proud of them. Dangerous shameless cult
Crazy stuff indeed!
Yeah muslim terrorists aren't out of their minds they are just very VERY good and dedicated muslims
Wow, without lies, Christianity dies. I guess.
I think this couple may be fake.
Those 2 are so funny. Like the lady goes to the gym wearing all that crap and then complains that its difficult 😂 And the dude is so spineless and clueless that its feel like a real life Jerry from Rick and Morty
I had the same problem as this guy in the video. I fell in love with a Muslim woman and she spent time with me but then her sister found out about it and said: Don't be with him because he is a Christian and our father would kill you first, then kill him if he found out about it. Then the Muslim woman told me that we can no longer be together for that reason unless I would become a Muslim. Because if I became a Muslim, it would be from God and my father couldn't say anything more and our children would also be Muslim. And I said: You either love me the way I am or not at all, but to get others to change religion is wrong, I remain a Christian and I started to cry because I knew it was finally done. But this guy was convinced.
I will get married to sikh guy and I al christian. We both respect the religion of the other one and learning more about it. He goes with me in church to keep and I go to gurduwara.
You did a good job for not converting. You would just be unhappy. As you said person who loves you loves you for who you are.
I'm surprised muslim women are even allowed to have love affairs.
Muslims say that to marry a Muslim you have to convert and if you love them you'll do it. But I've never understood why should the other person change religions. What if their religion also tells their partner to convert? It's an endless cycle which inevitably leads to either breakup or one of the two abandoning their beliefs. Like, for example, I'm an atheist, I don't believe in God and don't want any God in my life. If I fell in love with a Muslim and converted, it wouldn't make sense because it wouldn't be genuine. I can't just force myself to believe in something that I don't believe in. If someone believes in Jesus, you can't make them magically start believing in Allah and vice versa.
Agreed. Fake conversion is stupid. I won’t accept a Muslim convert to my religion either.
@@saramaria2891 Do you believe that the Lord Jesus is the only way to the Father in heaven? Do you believe that your fiance is going to inherit eternal life? I have a good friend who was brought up Sikh and the status if women was very low. She was subject to forced marriage in India as a sheltered 18 year old girl (who grew up in the West (and endured 10 years of abuse in her marriage). She found Christ through the prayers and preaching of her Christian friends. Now she loves the Lord and initially
she could continue to go back to the Gurdwara, which is the centre of Sikh life, worship and community but eventually as she learned more about the Christian faith the Holy Spirit convicted her not to continue there. She recognised that she could not have fellowship between light and darkness.
I am certain that your fiance is a loving and wonderful man, but interfaith marriages often draw Christians away from Christ.
Thank God someone finally made a video against MedinaTV. Some of their videos and explanations regarding their Islamic believes drive me crazy. Its so bizarre
Yes. Their comment section is a mess. Whenever someone criticises them or Islam, their Muslim “defenders” come in and say things like “it’s her choice “, “don’t disrespect what others believe in” and some random shit like that.
@@imlazyandiknowit4601 more worrying is all these ignorant westerners who are blindly supporting them and doing the whole "thanks for teaching us about your beautiful religion" act and fall for their sugarcoated idea of Islam 🤡🤡
I do think that their knowledge of Islam came from Muslim pop culture. Trying to make Islam sound wholesome
And their comments section is even more bizarre... truly terrifying.
They're a circus act
ISLAM NEEDS TO LIE AND DECIEVE TO STAY.
The wife is covered head to toe, with only a slit for her eyes, the husband is wearing makeup and flirts with the camera...
It seems like the guy lacked structure growing up and wasn't raised to have any option-weighing and decision-making skills, so Islam appealed to him because it relieved him of the burden of having to suddenly develop those skills when overwhelmed by a life full of choices and no guidance on how to discern them from each other. It's unfortunate that he feels like he can avoid having to develop these basic life skills; hasn't he noticed that most (non-convert) Muslims don't do this and put in the effort to be well-adjusted adults just like everyone else?
She put a leash on him
Yesss
@@misterbig9025 He put his own leash on - just found the "right" woman to hold it
Fr
Or maybe, he just..? Liked her, and believed in the religion for whatever reason? And perhaps, simply feels uncomfortable talking to a camera, and instead talks to the person beside?
Why attack on him?
She probably invented this questions and answered her own way.
I asked this question on their community post. Not the same way they phrased it and was annoyed by their response. Anything Islamic countries do and questionable, blatant ignorance of basic human rights, beheadings, the punishment for women not adhering to their dress code, the treatment of lbtq + people and the punishment for apostasy - was included in my question yet they imply in all their videos that it is culture not Islam. Don’t know what she’s doing is lying in the name of preaching to get more people to convert to Islam or truly believes her version of islam.
@@finnthewestiefinnmccool5916 definitely she doesn't read her sources and is recruiting people to live in the darkness with her.
When I see lier like her saying that the cruelties practiced in Islamic country is cultura not Islam, I expose their scriptures to whoever they are preaching too. The person will fall if is an idiot. I was once. Now if I can prevent people from falling in this trap called Islam, I do.
@@Claudia-cm9rp to me even when she says all those horrible practices are culture just makes me angrier. What kind of culture is acceptable in this age and time which allows those things to happen?
@@finnthewestiefinnmccool5916 I agree with you totally. It makes me angrier too.
Who is this couple trying to convince, others or themselves? It's time to be honest and wake up!
without lies, islam dies.
A lot of these western converts give off that, "if I wasn't doing this, I'd probably be making vids about pronouns and social justice."
apus destroyed
Apus destroyed
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Lmaooo you might be onto something there 😂
I cackled
Yesssssss. I have been wanting either you or another ex-Muslim to respond to these peoeple like I literally came across them once on my shorts and ever since then even if I press "do not reccomend channel" they still show up and I just hate how they make there white non muslims followers think islam is all rainbows and sunshine but at the same time neither of these to would ever move to a muslim majority country since they speak soooo highly of Islam.
Recently I have been seeing some white non muslims calling them out in the comment sections of there videos regarding some of there views and some of the sexist and misogynistic things that are in islam against women in which they try to excuse by blaming it all on culture.
Apus destroyed
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@@ne3583
Not
@@ne3583 you mean like when farid said that the moon spliting happened but people were just sleeping at night so no one witnessed it?
@@rdvangercek8990
In short, mo was just making it up.
If a religion can't be reformed then it has no place in a society... change is the only constant in life ..
In Orthodox Christianity there is much more structure in spiritual practice. Prayer rules, the Jesus prayer, praying the liturgy. I would say that man is most likely ignorant of Christianity and most likely went through the motions of being a surface Christian. Orthodox Christian services have motions the worshippers make like bows and prostration. I'm wondering if Mohammed copied that from Christianity especially the Eastern Orthodox form of it. Thus encorporating the Christian prostration into Islam.
It’s pretty obvious that he did, Eastern Christians have prayed that way LONG before Islam, it’s also kinda funny that they incorporated gnostic gospels in the Quran, most notably the gnostic gospel of Thomas, which includes the story of Jesus turning clay into birds
Do the Saleh Family next. Nothing against them it’s just CZcams keeps putting these two families redundantly.
Finally someone who knows the saled family as well!!
And also ninja mommy
She almost got in her words
Idk how
She just speaks so good
yeah finally some one most nonsense family whitewashing this cult
Yes true
THANK YOU for calling them out, even ninja mommy does the same thing
Yeah
Ninja mommy always seems like shes on the verge of tears. I'm actually concerned for her.
@@ratemate458 yeah she is constantly pretending like Islam is so empowering and cool, must take a toll on her psyche.
@@shafeeazeem623 I had watched her "life story" before and it's actually quite sad. She had also tried to commit suicide more than once and she definitely needed something for validation, just, unfortunately, she chose Islam, the very thing im running from for self-validation.
@@ratemate458 that really sad. But islam is not the answer and it never was. 😭
Islam and women.
I DO know about Islam, having studied comparative religion for over 60 years, I have read the Quran twice completely, together with the strong (sahih) Hadiths.
1. Islam permitted beating a woman by her husband, Islam defenders claim (to know the mind of God) that God didn’t mean a hard beating, even though the verse didn’t specify the way of beating, but beating is beating wether hard or soft. What kind of a life will I have with my wife if I beat her ?
2. Polygamy, a Muslim man can marry four women, actually Islam looks at marriage from a sexual not and a spiritual way. This is apparent from the procedures followed in the marriage which I will explain in a point below.
3. A woman can’t lead in Islam, I mean the political leading, Muhammad the prophet of Islam claimed that no nation will succeed if led by a woman. What a great respect he had for women! I wonder what he will be saying if he comes back to life to see how women lead countries nowadays!
4. According to Islam women have defective minds and testimony.
5. Marriage, a woman can’t get married without the consent of her father, actually his will is what matters in the end.
6. Her father must be paid a dowry, even though it’s not clear who should receive the dowry, but either way its disgusting. The idea of paying her father is actually buying the girl, while paying her is also disgusting. Why should I pay her to marry her ? What about love ? Is she a whore to get paid ?
7. Divorce, the Muslim man has the permission to end the marriage in one word “Taleq” that’s all it takes, he actually has 3 shots, he can get her back in first and the second time within 3 months but he can’t get her back after the third time.
But she can’t divorce him! Actually if she asked him to divorce her without a reason she will go to hell not heaven.
8. A Muslim woman can’t marry a non-Muslim.
9. If her husband asked her to bed, to have sex, she doesn’t have the right to refuse. And if she does the angels will be cursing her until she wakes up, besides its one of the reasons to beat the woman according to the source provided with point number 1.
This case we call raping nowadays, but Muslim men call it their right. It’s only a sexual relationship indeed.
10. Veil or Burqa, she must cover her body and hair and her face in the burqa because her body is tempting to men!
So she doesn’t have the right to divorce; she will get paid for the marriage; she can’t refuse to have sex; a man can marry other three women; she must cover her body and hair. What kind of marriage is that? Is it marriage or slavery?
11. Slave women; a man can buy and sell a slave woman. A woman is considered as a slave if she was taken in a battle, or if she was born to a slave mother. But a man also has the right to have intercourse with her since he bought her with his money! He can also send her as a gift to another man. What a respectful way of treating women!
The slave must be Christian or Jewish.
Muhammad didn’t have any respect for women. He married 12 wives during his lifetime, 11 at the same time, besides one of them was 6 years old when he married her!
Resources :
1: Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. - Surat An-Nisa’ [verse 34]
2: And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]. - Surat An-Nisa’ [verse 3].
Many Muslim men at Muhammad’s era got married to more than one woman.
3: “A people who make a woman their ruler will never be successful” - Reported by Al-Bukhari, the book of Judgments.
4: “I did not see more defective in respect of reason and religion than the wise of you (women). A woman asked: What is the defect of reason and religion ? He replied: The defect of reason is the testimony of two women for one man, and the defect of faith is that one of you does not fast during Ramadan*”. - Sunan Abi Dawud, the book of Model Behavior of the prophet.
*Muslim women don’t fast during their period but they make it up after Ramadan.
5: Bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her. - Surat Al-Baqarah [Verse Number 282].
6: “The marriage of a woman who marries without the consent of her guardians is void. (He said these words) three times. If there is cohabitation, she gets her dower for the intercourse her husband has had. If there is a dispute, the sultan (man in authority) is the guardian of one who has none”. - Narrated by Aisha, the book of Nikah (Marriage).
7: So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. - Surat An-Nisa’ [Verse Number 24].
8: Divorce is twice. Then, either keep [her] in an acceptable manner or release [her] with good treatment. - Surat Al-Baqarah [Verse Number 229].
As you see, it is the man who has the choice here.
9: “If any woman asks her husband for divorce without some strong reason, the odour of Paradise will be forbidden to her.” - the book of talaq*, from Sunan abi Dawud.
*talaq means divorce
10: And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. - Surat Al-Bararah [Verse Number 221].
11: "If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and thus he spends the night angry with her, the angels continue cursing her till the morning." - Al-Bukhari and Muslim, the book of forbidden actions.
12: Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Messenger of Allah (saws) wearing thin clothes. The Messenger of Allah (saws) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to his face and hands. - Narrated by Aisha, the book of clothing.
13: And they who guard their genitals. Except from their wives or those their right hands possess*, for indeed, they will not be blamed. - Surat Al-Mu’minun [Verses 5-6]
*His hand possess the girl means that he owns her as his property.
14: "The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls." - Narrated by Aisha, the book of Nikah (Marriage).
Allah permits 4 marriages in the condition of treating all wives equally. Yet he himself says in the Quran that men can't treat 4 wives equally even if they want to. Like I don't even know how would I defend this if i still was a Muslim.
@@notme9262 He married 12 wives during his life time, eleven at the same time, how did he support them, especially considering he was ‘supposedly’ as poor as a church mouse! As an ex muslim, this may interest you, it completely destroys the very basis of Islam and shows that both The Bible and New Testament contain fabrications and lies. It is from my original research and fact checked again and again. Please let me know what you think.
As the chronicles of Islam proclaim, the word of Allah was allegedly ‘re-revealed’ at the Mountain of light - Jabal al Nour, where inside the cave of Hira, Muhammad was accosted by an ‘angel’, identifying himself as Jibreel (Gabriel). But in actual fact it was Mohammed’s wife Khadija who informed him that he had seen the Angel Gabriel and that Mohammed was a messenger of god, not the Angel! This story was later changed to say that a ‘clever Christian’ relative had told Mohammed that he had been visited by ‘Angel Gabriel’ and that he, Mohammed, was gods messenger. This was done to make it appear that a Christian had recognised Mohammed as a prophet!
BUT how could Angel Gabriel (Jibril جبريل ) have given the Quran to Mohammed, shown him heaven or told Mary that she would give birth to Jesus, as the Bible says, when Gabriel and The Book of Daniel, in which Gabriel first appeared, has been shown conclusively to be a forgery!
Before this period there are no angels known by name and the first, the Angel called Gabriel, appears towards the end of the book of Daniel in the expanded (forged) Hebrew section, the original text was written in Aramaic! Gabriel was created simply as a cynical device to facilitate the ‘reinterpretation’ of the failed prophesy of Jeremiah and as a piece of Jewish propaganda to support the Maccabees! Then in turn the Maccabee’s promoted The Book of Daniel in their own propaganda literature. As Biblical scholar Dr Richard Carrier says “.. they created the fake news and then promoted the fake news”!
False prophesies and Angel Gabriel were added to The Book of Daniel by later author(s). ALL ‘prophecies’ fail because there is no such thing as a prophet or prophesy, but they can never be acknowledged to have failed!
Jeremiahs failed prophesies spoke of seventy years for the restoration of Israel and the eschaton (end), WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN, so the authors of The Book of Daniel claimed, through Gabriel, that Jeremiah made a mistake and meant to say ‘seventy weeks of years’ (Daniel 9), which meant that the prophesy was for his day (in the 2nd century BCE)
Since the restoration and eschaton (end) DID NOT HAPPEN (yet again) in the predicted era Marks gospel tells us that Jeremiah’s and Daniel’s failed prophesies referred to the destruction of Jerusalem, which was a prelude for the eschaton (end) to happen a few years later (Mark 13) WHICH FAILED TO HAPPEN - AGAIN! In the book of Revelations the author(s) makes Daniels ‘time, times and a half time’ into an intermediate period that would end ‘soon’ in his day, which we all know DID NOT HAPPEN! Are we noticing a pattern of nonsense here?!?!
All independent mainstream scholars now support the consensus that there never was such a Jewish prophet until the book of Daniel (and his puppet Angel Gabriel) were fabricated. Daniel is neither authentic as a book of history, nor authentic as a book of prophecy, it is a work of fiction, written in its final form approximately 167 BCE, not as claimed around 530BCE!!!
References:
czcams.com/video/PN9EzAjHPUk/video.html Daniel a pious FRAUD!
Daniel a forgery! Dr Richard Carrier czcams.com/video/pNDYE-tLiG4/video.html
Philip R. Davies says in his essay ‘The social world of apocalyptic writings’, published in The World of Ancient Israel: Sociological, Anthropological and Political Perspectives (edited by R. E. Clements), that ‘chapters 1-6 are widely accepted as not only earlier, but reflecting a different social setting from the visions of Chapters 7-12. Thus we have AT LEAST two different authors, with the final author adding his series of false prophecies to the earlier book’.
C.L. Seow’s Daniel by Westminster Knox Press (2003) and John Collins’ Daniel by Fortress Press (1993), part of the excellent Hermeneia commentary series. See also The Book of Daniel: Composition and Reception, vols. 1 and 2 (Brill, 2002), edited by John Collins and Peter Flint.
‘How We Know Daniel Is a Forgery’ www.richardcarrier.info/archives/18242
‘Dating Daniel: Prophesy or History?’ czcams.com/video/L7T8wtRi5kM/video.html
‘The Book of Daniel: A pious fraud.’ czcams.com/video/PN9EzAjHPUk/video.html
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Response.
For those people who are reading his (non specific) Islamic/Christian, response I will supply recent academic references, stating categorically that DANIEL AND ARCHANGEL GABRIEL WERE FALSIFIED. Please fact check and read up on the subject yourself if you want the truth. This FACT destroys the basis of Islam completely, it also shows that (some?) books of the Hebrew Bible and Christianity’s New Testament are false lies.
Stay away from Islam!
الابتعاد عن الاسلام!
Here are just a FEW references, there are many many more if required:
References:
Daniel a forgery! Dr Richard Carrier czcams.com/video/pNDYE-tLiG4/video.html
Philip R. Davies says in his essay ‘The social world of apocalyptic writings’, published in The World of Ancient Israel: Sociological, Anthropological and Political Perspectives (edited by R. E. Clements), that ‘chapters 1-6 are widely accepted as not only earlier, but reflecting a different social setting from the visions of Chapters 7-12. Thus we have AT LEAST two different authors, with the final author adding his series of false prophecies to the earlier book’.
C.L. Seow’s Daniel by Westminster Knox Press (2003) and John Collins’ Daniel by Fortress Press (1993), part of the excellent Hermeneia commentary series. See also The Book of Daniel: Composition and Reception, vols. 1 and 2 (Brill, 2002), edited by John Collins and Peter Flint.
‘How We Know Daniel Is a Forgery’ www.richardcarrier.info/archives/18242
Who goes around changing the Bible?! People tend to hold different interpretations of the Scriptures between the Churches, and the various protestant denominations, but the Bible, in and of itself never changed! They're making stuff up on the fly. great! 😂😂😂
They even made a video about lgbtq in islam to exlpain it after it faced backlash😂
Kindly watch on CZcams ef dawah, sc dawah, Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity
@@zi1238 Jesus christ is the only way my friend you follow a satanic religion
@@antz2883 Only the tooth fairy can save your soul
@@TheMagnificentGman really ? That's interesting thanks for letting me know
@@antz2883 Back at you
Epic of gilgamesh hasn't been changed since about 4k years Hence he was the true prophet
Yeah, every single "argument" in Islam's defense is a fallacie like that or a flat out lie
These people are just intentionally misrepresenting Islam I think... Pretty insane that they would actually think the Bible is just being constantly changed and new rules are being added, were they ever even Christians at all??
He was a terrible Christian!😂 He has a terrible view of Christianity!
When religions seem like pyramid scheme , then stay away by any means 😂
It's Hinduism which has pyramid like cast system.
@@ronnie1074 Agreed
@@ronnie1074 Hinduism don't have pyramid scheme of caste system , if u from engineering u would be called engineer if you work at restaurant u would be called cook same with caste system it's just the specification not discrimination
@ⴰⴽⵙⵉⵍ | Aksil saying a dalit is discriminated in today's India is like saying blacks are still slaves . I agree with second statement because converts always try to be holier than pope
@ⴰⴽⵙⵉⵍ | Aksil Vishnu
Vishnu is said to have raped Tulsi/Vrinda by assuming the guise of her husband. What can be more disgusting than a god raping a chaste lady? And much worse is the celebration of this rape as a festival. Yes you read that right. Hindus proudly celebrate the rape of Vrinda by Vishnu in a festival called Tulsi Vivah.
Shiva Purana, Rudra Samhita 2, Yudha Khanda 5, Ch 23.38-45 ”On seeing her husband, Vrnda too was delighted. She forgot her sorrow. She considered everything a dream. Delighted in the heart and with all the dormant passions kindled up, she sported with him for many days in the middle of that forest. Once at the end of the sexual intercourse she realised that it was Visnu. Vrnda rebuked him angrily and spoke thus. Vrnda said:-Fie on this misdeed of Visnu in outraging the modesty of another man’s wife. I have now realised you as the wielder of illusion, appearing in the guise of an ascetic. Sanatkumara said:-O Vyasa, saying thus in great anger she showed her brilliant powers as a staunch chaste lady by cursing Visnu. “O base foe of the Daityas, defiler of other people’s virtue, O wicked one, take this curse from me, greater in force than all persons. The two persons whom you made to appear in front of me shall become Raksasas and abduct your wife. You will be distressed on account of separation from your wife roaming about with Sesa ‘lord of snakes’ who posed as your disciple here. You will seek the help of monkeys in the forest.”
Indra
If you think that such an act can’t be done by a person like Indra, then you are absolutely wrong. Indra was very popular among gods and sages for ravishing others’ wives and had done this to Ahalya by assuming the form of her husband Sage Gautama:
Skanda Purana V.iii.136.2-16 ”There was a Brahmana named Gautama who was like another Brahma. He was endowed with truthfulness and piety. He was engrossed in the Vanaprastha stage of life. His blessed wife named Ahalya was very famous in all the three worlds as a woman endowed with beauty and prime of youth. Satakratu [Indra], the king of Devas, was infatuated by the exceptional beauty of Ahalya. The Slayer of Bala, therefore, tempted her. ”O beautiful lady of uncensored features, resort to me, the king of Devas, Sport about with me. You shall be one honoured in all the three worlds. What will you do with this Brahmana who has become lean and emaciated due to his over-zealousness for purity and conventional rites and austerities and Vedic studies! O lady of beautiful eyes, you must be rather undergoing sufferings now.”…Getting an opportunity, he assumed the excellent guise of the sage and carnally delighted Ahalya who believed (that he was Gautama) in the inner apartment. Within a moment thereafter, O descendant of Bharata, the excellent sage hurriedly entered the apartment. On seeing Gautama come Purandara [Indra] became terrified and he went out. Seeing him he thought (knew) that it was Sakra. So Gautama became highly enraged and he cursed Devendra: ”Since you could not control your senses, be one with a thousand vaginal apertures.” On being cursed thus, Devendra was instantly covered with a thousand vaginal apertures.”
Shiva
Srimad Bhagavatam 8.12.26-30 ”The beautiful woman was already naked, and when She saw Lord Siva coming toward Her, She became extremely bashful. Thus She kept smiling, but She hid Herself among the trees and did not stand in one place. His senses being agitated, Lord Siva, victimized by lusty desires, began to follow her, just as a lusty elephant follows a she-elephant. After following her with great speed, Lord Siva caught her by the braid of her hair and dragged her near him. Although she was unwilling, he embraced her with his arms. Being embraced by Lord Siva like a female elephant embraced by a male, the woman, whose hair was scattered, swirled like a snake. O King, this woman, who had large, high hips, was a woman of yogamaya presented by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. She released Herself somehow or other from the fond embrace of Lord Siva’s arms and ran away.”
Soma
Srimad Bhagavatam 9.14.4 ”After conquering the three worlds [the upper, middle and lower planetary systems], Soma, the moon-god, performed a great sacrifice known as the Rājasūya-yajña. Because he was very much puffed up, he forcibly kidnapped Bṛhaspati’s wife, whose name was Tara”.
Brihaspati
Brihaspati the Guru of all Gods raped his own pregnant sister-in-law named Mamata. A man with what kind of heart would do that,
Matsya Purana 49.17-28 ”Suta said:- Brihaspati, whilst staying on Earth, one day saw the wife of his brother, Usija, who was big with child, and addressed her thus:- ”Dress thyself well and let us enjoy.” She, being thus addressed, replied to Brihaspati thus:- ”The embryo in my womb is mature and is already reciting the Vedas. Thy seed will also not be fruitless and thy proposal is sinful.” Hearing which, Brihaspati said:- ”I need not to be taught morality by thee, O sweet one.” After saying that, he carried out his desire by force…”
Varuna
Varuna is the god of water. He is praised in several hymns of the Vedas. A story mentioned in the Mahabharata tells Varuna’s rape of Bhadra another wife of Utathya,
Mahabharata 13.154.10-17”…’Hear now, O king, the story of Utathya who was born in the race of Angiras. The daughter of Soma, named Bhadra, came to be regarded as unrivalled in beauty. Her sire Soma regarded Utathya to be the fittest of husbands for her…the handsome Varuna had, from a long time before, coveted the girl. Coming to the woods where Utathya dwelt, Varuna stole away the girl when she had plunged into the Yamuna for a bath. Abducting her thus, the Lord of the waters took her to his own abode…There, within that palace, the Lord of waters; O king, sported with the damsel. A little while after, the fact of the ravishment of his wife was reported to Utathya…”
Surya
Surya is the Sun-God and several hymns of Vedas are dedicated to him. He raped the virgin Kunti. Kunti was just examining her mystic power and the sun god appeared before her and was smitten with passion after seeing young and beautiful Kunti and then raped her.
Devi Bhagavatam 2.6.13-35”…Surya Deva said: - “O Kunti! What for you called me, by virtue of the Mantra? Calling me, why do you not worship me, standing before you? O beautiful blue one! Seeing you, I have become passionate; so come to me. By means of the mantra, you have made me your subservient so take me for intercourse.” Hearing this, Kunti said: - “O Witness of all! O knower of Dharma! You know that I am a virgin girl. O Suvrata! I bow down to you; I am a family daughter; so do not speak ill to me.” Surya then said :- “If I go away in vain, I will be an object of great shame, and, no doubt, will be laughed amongst the gods; So, O Kunti! If you do not satisfy me, I will immediately curse you and the Brahmin who has given you this mantra. O Beautiful one! If you satisfy me, your virginity will remain; nobody will come to know and there will be born a son to you, exactly like me.” Thus saying Surya Deva enjoyed the bashful Kunti, with her mind attracted towards him; He granted her the desired boons and went away. The beautiful Kunti became pregnant and began to remain in a house, under great secrecy. Only the dear nurse knew that; her mother or any other person was quite unaware of the fact. In time, a very beautiful son like the second Sun and Kartikeya, decked with a lovely Kavacha coat of mail and two ear-rings, was born there.” Tr. Swami Vijnananda
Ashwinkumara
Ashvinkumara was the son of the Sun God. He is said to have raped a Brahmin lady and impregnated her.
Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Brahma Kanda, 10.125-134 Saunaka was astonished at the words of Sauti and said, ‘Sir, what irony of fate led Aswinkumara, the offspring of the sun, to copulate with a Brahmin woman? Kindly narrate this incident and gratify my curiosity” Santi, the best of saints replied,”O best of Munis, impossible are the ways of Providence. Once upon a time, this tranquil, strong offspring of the sun was enamored of a Brahmin woman while she was going out on pilgrimage. Though he was dissuaded by her again and again he forcibly took her to a grove, ravished and impregnated her. The lady, bewildered with shame and fear caused her own miscarriage…”
Brahma
Brahma the creator is said to have raped his own daughter Saraswati.
Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Krishna Janma Khanda 35.8-20 “…Then he came and bowed to me; and having secured Saraswati, the enchantress of the three worlds, as his bride Brahma dallied with her in several places in solitude. After a good deal of diversion, he desisted from his amours and came back to Brahma-loka…Then they performed auspicious rites, greeted Brahman and the goddess Bharati, gladly ushered them in into the land of Brahma. Brahma sported with her day and night and was absorbed in sexual enjoyments…”
As a Christian, it's so funny he keeps bringing up Christianity without even knowing what he says.
@Mr Mistah I mean anyone can. There's a difference between knowing solid factual info about a specific doctrine and actually believing in it. I'm not Muslim, but I live in a Muslim country and I don't really agree with the way this couple portrays Islam because it's very different from what I grew up around and because it's very sugar-coatedly westernised.
I think he is the only “was catholic” who isn’t scared of the dogma purgatory🤣
In other video he mentioned that he is doesn’t go to church every sunday and fell into heretic group of Christianity LMAO it shows how he never know Christianity.
My parents didn’t even teach me the basic teachings of Christianity, they just baptized me, teach me how to pray,teach me that Jesus is my God, invite me to church, and I didn’t fall into heresy hahaha I’m proud of it
This is something wrong about Muslims is that they can’t talk about Islam without Christianity coming out of their mouth.
@@vicshalc9871 most Christians who convert to Islam, aren't really good Christians.
The guy constantly looks to his wife for validation. It's pretty obvious who leads in that household. He speaks while looking for approval while she speaks with authority. It appears the wrong person is wearing the head and face coverings.
i noticed that too
Very simple to answer to that couple: we have been brainwashed 😂
There are 36 known different book of the Quor'an with. At least 93 000 differences in Words or meanings, also if this couple knew anything about their religion,. Why Was all the Quor'an burnt at some stage and only one copy at the time acceptable. Another an Last why copy of the full Quor'an found inn Yemen different?
A very good point
''Da brudda makth a good point''
Interesting. I never knew that.what is different in Yemen koran. Who changed it and why.do you have any other info
@@florrie8767 just type yemen Sanaa Quor'an also follow cira on CZcams!
They just don't know these simple facts. Jest leave them alone.
Hello there. I’m Catholic. I must say, I have nothing but respect for you. Main reason is for your respectful way of your presentations here on CZcams.
Keep breathing
He will be thrown into the Lake of Fire by Jesus
@@bluerock9238 he might convert you never know
@@bluerock9238 he is not dead yet, you never know
This couple used to show up in my shorts tab a LOT. It made me so uncomfortable and strangely angry. I’m not even Muslim. I just thought their beliefs were so restrictive and sexist that I felt impacted by it, somehow!
"The Quran wasn't modified once." Cough*bullshit* oh excuse me.
I like how he looks to his wife for confirmation. BTW. Homer's Illyad has never been changed, it must be the word of god. Like what!?
I can't lie his wife has some hot eyes
Is that true? It's never changed? Excellent.
Harry Potter too!
Why is she hiding behind the potato bag? Why didn't he do the same?
Bcoz Allah said to protect our women iman ....they don't roam outside half naked
@@booksarelife9196 Allah has a dick?? Instead of verbally masturbating, why don't you provide the proof that your imaginary genocidal, bloodthirsty, sacrifice obsessed sky daddy is not just a figment of your indoctrinated imagination??? Common, what else do you have besides parroting others??? There are 4300 different known imaginary religious ideologies and an endless number of unknown possibilities. Common, provide us with the method to differentiate between reality and imagination and the proof for your baseless assertions!!!! Show me that your imaginary allah can speak!!!
@@booksarelife9196 Convinced you are a troll
He is always looking at his wife - it seems to me he is very insecure and his aim is to please his wife (ideal mother). He is a child, not a man.
If naive was a personification, it would be these two
"Christians" that become Muslims are usually non practicing Christians or ignorant Christians, it's silly when they say they pray 5 times a Day as if that's to be considered an impresive aspect of Islam. In Christianity you are called to live in worship, to pray non stop, in the Catholic and Orthodox church there are so many practices that show you the way to live like this, praying all day. The Rosary, the Chokti, the liturgy of the hours (psalms). Like you said, the main difference is that one religion obliges you to do certain things, yet the other shows you the way but you are a free agent that can chose to follow it or not, and always gives you the possibility of being forgiven and being saved. Like Jesus did with the Good thief and the adulterer Mary Magdalene and pretty much every sinner in the Bible.
And just to add something, she claims that God is an "entity" and that's not the case for Catholics and Orthodox Christians and some protestants, God is the one who is, is beyond any category in this universe, since is the one that gives the universe its properties and qualities, it gives everything in the universe its very existence so, not an entity at all, God is beyond our notion of "being" since he is the giver of being. His very true name says so YHWH.
They are paid to do so. They are given offers
@IslamsBiggestOPP it's the same with Islam and any religion, regular people tend to be ignorant of the depths of their beliefs, even secular people are unaware of the tenants that they live by, so it is not fair to atribute that simply to Christians instead of a fallen human condition that tends us to avoid pursuing the highest good (God)
AP, you're probably one of the most fair and balanced atheists to ever live. You recognize the psychological value of philosophical satisfaction which is why a Christian and an Atheist feel the same sense of peace when they come to acceptance of their preferred philosophy. I am a man of faith, but I can absolutely appreciate your views in that regard.
Yeahh that is why i love AP.
@@meenamoon7930 same
Dang. Good observation.
Isn’t he a Christian now?
Spot on. I'm an atheist, yet find teachings of Buddhism very interesting, though the practice is tough
In Islam women are the elephants of a circus who have to be submissive and obeying to the master (husband).
Islam was chosen for him because he wanted to marry a mailbox.