Good luck :( The Tekken we know and love is gone. All fighting game Devs seem to care about is making sure the people who love mashing have the most fun.
Tekken 5 DR was the pinnacle of high level Tekken. Oki, movement, setups, throws, no 2D, no panic buttons or counterpicks. You had to adapt with your tools, and you could.
@@mazuiface well when your favorite character has basically an unblockable launcher I’d enjoy that version too. After Tekken 5 ,characters got more balanced then you got people like JDCR owning knee when Bryan isn’t as OP
Knee recently just mentioned Tekken 5 DR as his favorite and hardest/true skill Tekken game in his interview with Arslan and this video perfectly showcases the meaning of true skill.
This is the type of tekken I fell in love with, I wasn’t around for the arcade days of tekken because I didn’t care for fighting games but this is what makes me want to play. Combos and all the over the top stuff is cool but I love seeing such fluid gameplay that makes you think
I do remember some of the tragic, volatile responses of people seeing "Tekken movement" for the first time, after a certain Tekken 6 video was published about a decade ago - featuring Lee. To think that the current game is leaning more and more towards those who were shocked and appalled at the display of standard back dash and sidestep cancelling, is truly a shame to see. "this isnt real tekken wtf is this??? do combo" To be fair though, these recent setbacks are a first for the latest game. There's always time to address these issues - can only hope everyone can behave and respond appropriately, as we faith our way to a quality Tekken experience.
And this is why this guy is my favorite player of all time..his control over situations is incredible..not to mention the way he tackles different matchups, his general defensive gameplan..and many other aspects
ah yes. back when Tekken was Tekken. now whoever has more yolo 50/50's with a pinch of luck has a pretty fair chance to beat even these two legendary players we're watching.
bro we need to actually make tekken 5 dr the super smash bros melee of the tekken series and just have a big community of people who do that instead of new shitty tekkens
I appreciate the awesome gameplay that I hadn't seen before, and the built in lesson. I was late to the competitive scene, and your vids almost always reveal new depth and foster new apprection. Absolutely sick. Thanks for the vid, and the way that you're approaching the current state of the game.
I haven't played tekken but I've been trying to learn to enjoy watching it more... finally getting there a bit and this helped me turn another page on appreciating what these players are doing. thanks for this!
wasn't Qudans at his prime around this time too? I don't how long Knee had been in the scene at this point but I remember Qudans becoming something of a Korean legend in his hay day so seeing Knee compete like this against Devil Jin and Qudans is nuts.
Normal human: nice interrupt from Knee Speedkicks: Knee used jab 4,56 sec. after start because Qudans blinked and jab hits dj and qudans moral this means Knee have a dominance and after 2 sec he ducks because Napoleon used that for mocking his enemy's in one of his wars. Knee knows about Qudans know about Napoleon because he read it in Wikipedia.
Thats a lot happening in a short span of time and I still don't quite grasp it all. Lots of conditioning and reads I think? These top players minds move at speeds and in ways I can't comprehend.
I love how you broke this down alot of people don’t understand movement in this game is the key Every move Knee makes is for a reason but nonetheless love Qudans Devil Jin so aggressive and nasty
Tekken 7 was doing quite alright, for a good time. A few too many changes are being made to something that's managed to do really well. I truly feel all it needed to do, was add characters. Can't quite get behind anyone who feels the roster is bloated. I reckon adding classics in the same fashion as Zafina, someone who received a ridiculously well executed revamp, should've been the status quo. *Insert character into current mechanics* should be written on a whiteboard at Tekken HQ. Comparing the quality of the season 2 roster to the base roster is a conversation that never should've ended. Look at the personality all the season 2 characters have at first glance, plus their rage arts vs. all the OG characters that were there at base launch 2015.
the new characters on launch were weaksauce. they made bruce and raven women now because harada hates black men and they threw in Claudio, a soul calibur reject, katarina whos just a talking pair a tits and lucky chloe... i dont even hafta say anything, her mere existence is the punchline. gigas coulda been cool but they never bothered to throw a buff ya bois way.
@@bmierror4144 Not true. But your level of play may be much lower than mine. Movement isn't as tough as many make out, should you apply the ancient technique of fujin step. u*,f,u/f repeat; for background. d*,d/b,b repeat; for foreground. You'll know you've got it down when your sidestep looks like a wavedash. Can do mirrored inputs. Doesn't matter whether you're P1 or P2. Lili and Asuka have existed for over a decade. _Easy_ characters are nothing new. Keep at it.
@@laboflegs922 What are you talking about... Tekken 7 has added input lag to every input and even more to SS and movement, as well as movement covering less distance. T7 Vanilla has 9 frames of lag for a ss, and T7FR-now has 6 frames. Quite literally "molasses movement"
Still the best Tekken but we have to play 7 bc it’s new is what I’ve been told countless times. Whatever the new game is has to be played even if it’s bad.
amazing how i just see a normal match of pro players but people analize a lot of things that i can't even realize why they're doing them, with that i realize that i don't even know 30% of the game even if i've been playing it for like 10 years lol
qudans: *intense gameplan centered around pressure and forcing knee into his valley of good moves*
knee: wowie what happens when i press 1
Speedkicks dropping a passive smack down on all those tweets and patch changes lol
Oe arent you from novelplanet
I AM OP wait what happened?
I want Tekken to go back to this. Maximize on the movement and timing of the game and get away from the ‘why sidestep when you can block?’ mentality.
Good luck :(
The Tekken we know and love is gone. All fighting game Devs seem to care about is making sure the people who love mashing have the most fun.
And dumbass juggling
@@SleepyChloeFist kazumi was the only character which meets this fundamentals but they nerf her. And make her a combo char. Sad tekken is dead tbh.
Plenty of people dream of these days. Sadly movement is becoming more and more meaningless with excessive amount of tracking...
Well high ranked or professional players dominate because they stay away from that mentality, and have great movement.
Tekken 5 DR was the pinnacle of high level Tekken.
Oki, movement, setups, throws, no 2D, no panic buttons or counterpicks.
You had to adapt with your tools, and you could.
No bounds either. The bounds system really made tekken a cheesy fighting game now. Back when it was the dr days it was perfect
Knee called Tekken 5 DR the best Tekken ever. I agree with him
Agree...bounce and splat system are cheap mechanics added in new tekken...
Ok boomer
@@mazuiface well when your favorite character has basically an unblockable launcher I’d enjoy that version too. After Tekken 5 ,characters got more balanced then you got people like JDCR owning knee when Bryan isn’t as OP
Watching Tekken like this makes my heart go faster. God I love Tekken.
always nice to see someone that appreciates the game in all its glory
Knee recently just mentioned Tekken 5 DR as his favorite and hardest/true skill Tekken game in his interview with Arslan and this video perfectly showcases the meaning of true skill.
Like, you don't upload a whole lot but whenever you do it's just such a treat. Keep at it Speed ;D
That old Bryan laugh.. brings back memories
This is the type of tekken I fell in love with, I wasn’t around for the arcade days of tekken because I didn’t care for fighting games but this is what makes me want to play. Combos and all the over the top stuff is cool but I love seeing such fluid gameplay that makes you think
You should be Tekken analyst on tourneys with electronic pen and everything ;) good stuff! Mate, I hope you will keep the videos coming.
He definitely should be let's be real you aren't breaking it down to this level mid match
@@LoneStarVII you do it after the matches during the setup for next match and go over important moments.
Don't you think it would be easier for beginners to learn and utilize movement if the engine behaved like this, instead if feeling sluggish in T7?
i play t5dr on a psp emulator, the ai is really difficult so it's a lot of fun
@@mac8009 Man the AI on t5dr is a monster, it even ki charges after a win lol
@@XektorOfficial hahah you're right, it also spam moves if you dont efficiently defend against them. Ex. paul's d+1,4,2
@@mac8009 the AI was amazing. God, you can rarely bullshit your way through a match unlike T7.
I do
"This game is sick" until your opponent picks Steve 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Steve t5 can kill every character t7
This isnt 5.0
T5DR - Steve wasn't better than Devil Jin
@@Zeronum2 not like he wasnt toptier in dr as well lol
This is Tekken 5 DR, not Tekken 5 Vanilla.
I do remember some of the tragic, volatile responses of people seeing "Tekken movement" for the first time, after a certain Tekken 6 video was published about a decade ago - featuring Lee.
To think that the current game is leaning more and more towards those who were shocked and appalled at the display of standard back dash and sidestep cancelling, is truly a shame to see.
"this isnt real tekken wtf is this??? do combo"
To be fair though, these recent setbacks are a first for the latest game.
There's always time to address these issues - can only hope everyone can behave and respond appropriately, as we faith our way to a quality Tekken experience.
What video are you talking about?
I'd love to know which video you mean.
Plz find the video
So many memories from the T5DRO days 😭. TZ GGs thread was so much love. Thanks for the lesson prodigy.
And this is why this guy is my favorite player of all time..his control over situations is incredible..not to mention the way he tackles different matchups, his general defensive gameplan..and many other aspects
i want more videos like this explaining the matches in details that woud be so helpfull
I miss this Tekken.
This is still one of my fave tekken vids, please upload more even if it's just you shitting on 7 or something
Tekken 5 really showed how fuckin hardcore sick the potential of the series OST can have
Wish Speedkicks stuck around to do more analysis videos like this.
I miss the old T5 and DR days, the utter dominance of the god of gods knee!
Great analysis Speed, more of these vids.
ah yes. back when Tekken was Tekken. now whoever has more yolo 50/50's with a pinch of luck has a pretty fair chance to beat even these two legendary players we're watching.
bro we need to actually make tekken 5 dr the super smash bros melee of the tekken series and just have a big community of people who do that instead of new shitty tekkens
@@7dogguy still true to this day
I remember watching this fight on youtube back in 2006.
These old fights are hard to find now.
DR was the greatest.
Ok, the "Is literally the same characters in T7" made me laugh way louder than it should've
The level of play is so high I'll have to dual wield both my bongs just to understand it.
Beautiful video, really. I've never seen anyone break down top level play so simply and effectively. Good shit.
I appreciate the awesome gameplay that I hadn't seen before, and the built in lesson. I was late to the competitive scene, and your vids almost always reveal new depth and foster new apprection. Absolutely sick. Thanks for the vid, and the way that you're approaching the current state of the game.
I miss this game so much. Thanks for the nostalgia, Speedkicks!
Jesus christ I miss Tekken being played soley like this. This video was amazing
Holy damn, this so much more fun to watch.
I haven't played tekken but I've been trying to learn to enjoy watching it more... finally getting there a bit and this helped me turn another page on appreciating what these players are doing. thanks for this!
People dont realise jab is the best move in the game
Knee is a beast!
Rip movement
This content type akhi DR goes crazy too
Watching them sidestepping in neutral and at the opponents face feels so weird now in compariso. It looks super sick
wasn't Qudans at his prime around this time too? I don't how long Knee had been in the scene at this point but I remember Qudans becoming something of a Korean legend in his hay day so seeing Knee compete like this against Devil Jin and Qudans is nuts.
This game is the current pinnacle of Tekken for me
This brings back memories.
This was actually the match that made me serious in playing tekken. Knee busan!
T5 has better movement 'physics' and logic speed than T7. Damn idk why tekken decided to go speed juggling tap dancing route.
This editing is 10/10, love the notes
amazing how this video takes me back
T5/T5DR WILL ALWAYS BE THE GOAT TEKKEN GAME
Holy shit. Need more of these.
They are moving 10x as much as in Tekken7. Also they arent close to death after 1 combo and 1000s of wall and floor breaks.
The combos actually are worse on this game the scaling is so little you can see knee losing half his health from the first lanch without any wall
@@Simp-aTheWhiteKnightLion Akuma says hi
followed by d3 into Health Bar Messatsu
Normal human: nice interrupt from Knee
Speedkicks: Knee used jab 4,56 sec. after start because Qudans blinked and jab hits dj and qudans moral this means Knee have a dominance and after 2 sec he ducks because Napoleon used that for mocking his enemy's in one of his wars. Knee knows about Qudans know about Napoleon because he read it in Wikipedia.
Goddamn u gotta do knee vs JDCR deathmatch in T6
Wow. Definitely more of these Speed please.
One of the best stages
This is TEKKEN
Thanks for sharing man awesome to watch.
*10/10 perfect, inhuman fuzzy ducking*
Speedkicks: breddy gud
love watching two beasts like this fight. This game is sick
If TWT ever starts having panels and match analysis at tournaments, you would be perfect to have on
Would love to see more move by move analyses like this! There's a dire lack of these kind of breakdown vids for Tekken
So interesting to see what low ranks, casuals, spammers don't evaluate as oppossed to advanced player like these two Gods. Thanks for the video, man 👍
This fighting method is legend
Nice, Knee is a monster.
This tekken is more skillfull than Guess 7
guess 7 lmao so true
thanks for fucking me up at Wednesday night fights.
imo tekken 5dr is the pinnacle of competitive tekken maybe just add the new moves from the later games and bound or tailspin and its 100% perfect.
Thats a lot happening in a short span of time and I still don't quite grasp it all. Lots of conditioning and reads I think? These top players minds move at speeds and in ways I can't comprehend.
Bryan has a faster frame jab then the rest of cast, that is all.
@@spiritualopportunism4585 He wasn't the only one with an 8 frame jab. Steve had it too and so did a handful of others.
1:28 knees pretty good🤔
Hope Namco release this game again with online support, I hate tekken 7 with the longest combos, in DR the melee was amazing.
Subbed with notifs, GOOD SHIT
Beautiful video thanks for breaking down
Tekken 5... one of the last real Tekken games =[.
best commentator for sure!
This is much better than tekken 7 and tekken 6...
This is great. More like this pls :)
I love how you broke this down alot of people don’t understand movement in this game is the key Every move Knee makes is for a reason but nonetheless love Qudans Devil Jin so aggressive and nasty
Damn those sidesteps are smooth. Whenever i does it goes bunny hopping and get combo'ed to death by my opponent.
Im not 100% sure what any of that meant but it was definitely epic
T5 jumped the shark Pmuch
Let’s hope movement gets a buff in the next game
I think i understand. Lets buff Devil Jin.
Please do more like this
Wow the movement looks so much faster
do more of these. as manny as you can
This video is fucking godlike
Lmao
I want to play more tekken now fuck
Tekken 7 was doing quite alright, for a good time.
A few too many changes are being made to something that's managed to do really well.
I truly feel all it needed to do, was add characters.
Can't quite get behind anyone who feels the roster is bloated. I reckon adding classics in the same fashion as Zafina, someone who received a ridiculously well executed revamp, should've been the status quo.
*Insert character into current mechanics* should be written on a whiteboard at Tekken HQ.
Comparing the quality of the season 2 roster to the base roster is a conversation that never should've ended.
Look at the personality all the season 2 characters have at first glance, plus their rage arts vs. all the OG characters that were there at base launch 2015.
the new characters on launch were weaksauce. they made bruce and raven women now because harada hates black men and they threw in Claudio, a soul calibur reject, katarina whos just a talking pair a tits and lucky chloe... i dont even hafta say anything, her mere existence is the punchline. gigas coulda been cool but they never bothered to throw a buff ya bois way.
T7 had molasses movement from the beginning. It also introduced EZ mode characters like Kat and Claudio. In no way was it fundamentally "alright."
@@bmierror4144 Not true.
But your level of play may be much lower than mine.
Movement isn't as tough as many make out, should you apply the ancient technique of fujin step.
u*,f,u/f repeat; for background.
d*,d/b,b repeat; for foreground.
You'll know you've got it down when your sidestep looks like a wavedash.
Can do mirrored inputs. Doesn't matter whether you're P1 or P2.
Lili and Asuka have existed for over a decade. _Easy_ characters are nothing new.
Keep at it.
@@laboflegs922 What are you talking about... Tekken 7 has added input lag to every input and even more to SS and movement, as well as movement covering less distance. T7 Vanilla has 9 frames of lag for a ss, and T7FR-now has 6 frames. Quite literally "molasses movement"
@@mazuiface I take it you're on PS4.
My blessings.
You're onto something here... *hint hint*
Texts are fast
I miss the old tekken. Lot of stuff happened since... and well, not always for the best.
Hold on I'm lost.
Could we all just ask them to release a tekken 4 or 5 with multiplayer ?
Still the best Tekken but we have to play 7 bc it’s new is what I’ve been told countless times. Whatever the new game is has to be played even if it’s bad.
melee in smash is still played tekken 5dr can make a comeback as the melee of the tekken series
Murray mindset: Oh, you lost? Let's buff Devil Jin. I'll give you 7f jab
the same cahracter huh
I thought I was the only one who caught that "caharcter" grammar error
Would like to see you breakdown more videos of high level Tekken
Please do more recaps Iike this
That was crazy
bryan chicken wing dash. LOL
I miss nin from tekken 5
Basic tekken meta gameplan tutorial next
Same character from T7 LMAO
Didnt see uch jabbing
Can't find it on Steam. DOH! 😱
amazing how i just see a normal match of pro players but people analize a lot of things that i can't even realize why they're doing them, with that i realize that i don't even know 30% of the game even if i've been playing it for like 10 years lol
I can't understand half of the things you said, but the game play is cool