The Heroic Legend of Arslan (Arslan Senki) - 1991 vs 2015 (Side by Side Comparison) - Part 2
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Well, let's see a little more. Now with the debut of Gieve and Farangis......'s very eristical new garments '=D
The first note is kind of pointless. Most of those scenes were greatly expanded in the 2015 anime/Arakawa manga.
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I feel like I'm the only one who likes the new one because of the more realistic designs... Maybe it's because I love the history behind both Persia and the Sassanid empire as well as the crusades, so the newer design makes sense to me
+Jordi Nagel I fully agree with you.
I'm so glad someone agree with the new version 😭
I feel really bad for Persia.
Ever since they existed as a society they were always against forced religion and were always freaking surrounding by religion, from the north the Crusaders, from the south the muslims. They could never get a break unless they had someone really strong like Cyrus the great who could run an empire that big.
It's a lot easier to attack a big nation than it is to sustain it and other kings of Persia just didn't have the talent that Cyrus had.
You do realize that Persians had there own religion and beliefs that they where pushing on other people to? Also, they did there fair share of conquering and genocide.
They actually didn't.
Cyrus the great banned prejudice or pushing of one singular religion, plus you couldn't become a Zoroastrian, u had to be born into it.
Infact the reason Cyrus is so popular, much with Persia, is that they never ever enforced their beliefs onto other nations even while conquering and being that powerful. They had bad leaders before, I'm sure every history line does, but after Cyrus the good outweighed the bad
Kinda 50/50 on which designs I prefer. But the cinematography is so much better in the old one. It is practically a lesson on when to use close ups vs. when to use distance shots. Look at the scene where Gieve meets the queen (4:40). That slow panning upwards without revealing her eyes creates mystery as well as emphasizing the queen's elegance and beauty.
+Johtoboy55 Well said (about the queen)! While I haven't had the chance to watch the 2015 version I am quite familiar with the 90s version and what I am able to glean from the new version in those comparison videos and the comments is that despite its age, the 90s version is superior in certain aspects. And while I love Arakawa's designs in FMA I prefer the old ones in Arslan. They seem more vibrant to me and more individualised.
+Johtoboy55 Well said (about the queen)! While I haven't had the chance to watch the 2015 version I am quite familiar with the 90s version and what I am able to glean from the new version in those comparison videos and the comments is that despite its age, the 90s version is superior in certain aspects. And while I love Arakawa's designs in FMA I prefer the old ones in Arslan. They seem more vibrant to me and more individualised.
Oh fuck off, that looks cheap af
I like farangis & Gieve in the 1991 version. At least she got some cool outfit rather than the very-little-piece of clothing. Elam looks much better in the new version though..
The character designs were more detailed and beautiful in the older one.. But both are pretty good. I wish Farangis wore actual clothes.
But the environment and locations were way too ugly and inaccurate and not logical in the older one tho
The art work/concept used back in 80's and 90's is way better in any aspect than those big eyed guys nowadays
I prefer how realistic/historic the 2015 version is. The fantasy themed art makes it look unrealistic and almost like a drama, not a documented history (which is what they are going for). And, In 1991, the soldiers look like Vikings :"D
Also, Elam and Arslan look like they are actually 14-15yrs old in 2015. Arslan looks too mature and Elam looks like a child in 1991. They don't even look the same age. Arslan's 2015 character makes him look more docile and humble, but that is the point since he is 14yrs old... He is supposed to grow, not already look like he is experienced and in control.
I have to agree that 1991 Daryun looks more appealing, but why the hell should the lead characters always look good and stand out? I love that Daryun looks like an _Actual_ knight and doesn't stand out too much from the other knights.
The queen looks waaay more beautiful in 1991. No doubt there
It's disappointing that in 2015 Farangis barely wears anything, I don't like fanservice, but that aside, it's illogical how a woman battling on the front lines can wear clothes that barely cover her while the men wear fullbody armor. Also, how does she not freeze to death while wearing that in the cold? But, I don't like the 1991 Farangis' design either. She looks like freaking sailormoon.
And the clothing style in 1991 is way too varied. It fluctuates from traditional to fantasy to olden to modern... We have the queen looking amazing and serene and suddenly we have one of her subjects waltzing in like a cinderella wearing clothes that look too modern.
Either ways, I prefer the action scenes in 2015 way more
definitely prefer the 1991. the character designs are beautiful and mature.
character design of 1991 version is like Yoshitaka Amano's Art in firsts final fantasy games
Celes91 That's because he was the character designer of the original anime. You have a good eye.
I see!
I loved old final fantasy character design like in FFVI, so to me old anime is like an anime version of a old Final fantasy! (but I like persian ambients of the new version too!) (english is not my first language!)
Celes91 I like the Persian influences as well. What I really dislike is the prince's design. It makes it hard for me really take him seriously. And the artist/tactician, he looks more like a bandit, rather than an artist.
Celes91 I like Arakawa's adaptation, but what is missing is the uniqueness of the art style in the 1991 version. Yoshitaka Amano's working with the animators for the color scheme that helps buid the drama for the original was amazing but Arakawa's looks like every other anime style today, which is what sells nowadays to the general. I don't know if it is just attributed to nostalgia, but it is an age where commercialization is the only way for anime and mangas not to get axed now. Also from the original THE MUSIC OH GOD THE MUSIC was just incredible and tied everything together.
時代なんだろうな
映像技術もあるけど
やっぱり新しいいほうが見易いし
背景がしっかりしてるから入り込みやすい
絵もキラキラしすぎずカッコいいところはカッコいいので作り直しに感謝
Horrible version!!!! 😢
Watching the Shapur scene is rough is every way >.
I really enjoy the new version but the art direction for the old anime is so much nicer. The new anime seems like its just an animated version of a live action movie while the old one is much stronger and dynamic art wise.
What's funny is that the Phantom of the Opera is way more badass than Cobra Commander... but "Silver Mask" is way more intimidating-looking in the original where he looks like Cobra Commander than in the new one where he looks like the Phantom of the Opera.
I so wish Hiromu's version of Falangis wore at least a leather armor. 'Cause seriously, why would an archer jump around in robes which barely cover her breasts and hips? I get that she's an agile rogue character archetype who is well-trained in combat but still, is this work of mistress Hiromu-freaking-Arakawa or an JRPGMMO-based series (shout-out to "Blade and Soul")?
WB97 Sooooo f*cking tired of thr fan-service bs....
Ex. Ac.Tly.
Although we all know there won't be much fanservice in this series. 'Cause again: Hiromu-freaking-Arakawa.
WB97
Let's hope not...
+Sprite_Yagami People that don't like fan service exist? HURRAH! I'M NOT ALONE!
Seriously... The characters all changed so much in the new one.
The men look more like women than the women do in the 1991.
I feel that the older version looks better
I don't know what is wrong with you all the new one is so much better and come on its done by creator of fullmetal alchemist arslan looks better they all do except they should have kept the slave boy dark
If so, the old one has more details on it, since it hand drawed.
the old one really has this yoshitaka amano vibe which is understandable cause he drew for the manga and i think thats why i appreciate the 91 art cause it tries to mimic amano's style which is just truly hard to get right
For people who complained about the old one was not realistic, well Arslan Senki was meant to be fantasy (since the novel) though it may base on some reference (like persia). The new design lacks originality, it seems just like FMA reskin.
I only big thinks I can see that have changed while comparing them like this is mostly Arslan and the masked guy. Arslan seems more confident, strong, and noble in the older version while he is so humble for a prince in the recent adaptation. They really screwed up when changing the masked man's design, he looks fucking bad-ass in the 1991 version with the mask and armour, definitely wouldn't fuck with him.
fraxinuse I started reading the novel aaand his (Silver Mask) new design is totally at odds with how he's described there; full-face-concealing helmet, like in the 90's. The new design is pretty weak because 1) It makes little sense (how does it stay on?!), and 2) Everybody reacts as if his face WAS fully concealed, when...it...isn't. A Nightwing-mask situation, if you will.
Arslan is interesting in that it can be argued that the new Arslan is closer to how the novel describes him... though it can be argued that it exaggerates his flaws too much (?). It's a Japanese novel, they're not heavy on details.
well he indeed looks hotter :-D
Lol Lol WOW! Go away
Marcelosahgo I need to read the novel then. Lost interest in the new anime, maybe because the villain seems rather lacklustre (he's just a butt-hurt prince with an medium-rare face).
+fraxinuse Despite being different than originally described, I think the 2015 Silver Mask design is better for the characters. Since his whole schtick is being SO AAAANGRY, being able to see him make those sorts of expressions makes it better.
The Lusitanian priest in the 1991 version looked like a Hebrew priest coming straight out of the temple of Solomon.
I'll be waiting for the next part. thanks
The 1991 version is elegantly beautiful in all of it's designs, while its Silvermask looks far more intimidating with his full face covering helm and armour than the - barely covering his scars - mask that would be falling off his face version of 2015.
Gieve & Farangis .. I love them both
i prefer the new version as the older one looks more western in terms of environment as their clothing looks like medieval europe as oppose to the newer version in which the clothing looks persian
Thx for this "side by side" ,.. i choose the 91' ,... period. is far superior in everything,.. plus Farangis/faranguese is more sexy in the 91' ver.
Старая версия очень красивая. А в новой версии сцены битв стали более жестокими и кровавыми. Но и добавили немного и юмора, что сделало новую версию более интересной)
I like the old version for the character design, while the new version for a sense of reality and history. Their character designs are a lot more believable, with some face traits being less common in anime, though they exist in real life. For example, in the new version, Daryun has a long nose and thick eyebrows, which is rarely shown as beautiful in anime. Also, in terms of history, Pars reminds me of the Roman Empire, which was almost impossible to defeat, and they had a lot of slaves. Then, Lustania reminded me of the Ottoman empire, as they killed a lot for the sake of religion.
So both versions have their ups and downs
I would be grateful if you could explain what you meant by saying that the Ottoman Empire killed many for the sake of religion
For example, Did the Ottomans deal with the inhabitants of the conquered countries the way the Spaniards dealt with the Native Americans in America?
Or do you remember that there were Inquisition courts, as there were in Spain and France....???
The old one is so much more beuatiful stylisticly toueching, it doesn't need brutality blood or way to much action to deeply hook you in
If anything, Gieve's outfit is more revealing than Farangis' in the 1991 version lol. He's no Grey Fullbuster but she's wearing full armor while he has exposed arms and flesh-colored tights.
tifforo1
Also, 2015 Gieve is sort of annoying.
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色男でめっぽう強くて斜に構えてる感じ。
矢尾さんの演技、アニメでもカセット文庫版でもたまらなくイイ。
New one is so much better
The old one look like antiquity but new one look like medieval era
I so badly wanna watch the old version TT
Sliver mask design in both is good the 2015 one better fits what I view him and is more expressive.
Daman Farangis in armor was way better for me personally, but the clothed one makes sense since she's supposed to come from a temple of monks (?)
Absolutely prefer the 1991 version. It reproduced the style of Yoshitaka Amano very well. Especially 0:14 is almost the same with his picture of Silver Mask.
2015 version is nice too, but in my opinion the design is lacking of originality compared to 1991.
I can't affix them.
Both are good…
except narsus, that silver mask guy and shapur. all the characters from 1991 win.
The original 1991 design were more classy and they really messed up Daryun and Arslan design the 2015. Daryun look a lot more bad ass in the original while the new one look kind of boring. Arslan look head a lot more elegant yet determined; the new one look too weak in spirit. kind of disappointed here.
pigboykool Oh, they also completely destroyed the Farangis character. In the original, she look cold out side but you can feel the gentleness and warm soul within. She was sexy without over-exposure to her body. The new one just a regular fans service woman with cold and emotionless look on the face all the time.
At 0:11, Silvermask (1991) looked as if he had the body of a woman!
+pigboykool Destroyed Farangis's character? Don't make me laugh. Her personality is the same.
*COMMENT #100* ✌😎
This based on novel, so DON'T wonder if you watch two version of it
Although I prefer the old version
1991
Definetly like the new one alot more just think it looks better overall
For me I am 100% sure I love booth versions..for example in scene 4 I give the win to the new verison, because it had more Epic, jet in scene 5 the win is for the old version as it captured the queens beauty more. Booth versions cover the misses for each other.
+Juzefa WingedCat I agree 100%
'91 Scene 5's introduction of the queen had a much more "elegant" presentation. Like, you only see bits and pieces of her while she's talking and making subtle movements which gives her a sort of mysterious feel. While the '15 version, it's just "bam, here she is". On the other hand, the arrows made more sense in '15, because the arrow magically hit him in the heart in '91. I think '91 gets character introductions better(more dramatic) while '15 has better action
1991 Daryun is better.
Herme's Mask was way better in 1991..
Farangis looks so much better wow
Essa trilha sonora é muito boa, ela é do antigo?
zizibs Aham. Mas é de se esperar; o primeiro era um FILME, afinal! ^^
8D tava achando que era um OVA, valeu! E só teve um filme?
zizibs Foi uma situação... complicada. Dois filmes ("Arslan Senki I e II") que foram seguidos por 4 OVAs ("III a VI"), esses feitos por outros estúdios/staff... com orçamento menor... [s]e Arslan de cabelo verde por algum motivo[/s].
Por motivos de praticidade a gente costuma botar tudo como "OVAs", mas os primeiros dois foram filmes-filmes, pra cinema e com altos orçaments e talz. Os outros 4 foram pra vídeo, com típica "animação de anime", 30 mins por episódio, etc.
Gente, que mirabolante isso D:
Os movimentos do filme são muito muito bons, dá até gosto de ver 8D
people who likes more the old one is just delusional, you can just see there how clown and childish are the old one compared to the new, an house over a mountain of km, a guy firing with a bow with a giant moon behind over a mountain again. the heir with the mask looks like some paranormal monster lol
So...Falangis has been reduced from armor clad badass to fan/fap service....Somewhere, Amano must be laughing his ass off...or crying.
Nope, but I do know fan fap service when I see it.
I want new cause so much cooler than 1991
Old one like Greek/Fantasy Medieval style and new one is more to Persian/Medieval style.
Hiromu is cool and all, and I love FMA.. but her style doesn't work for this, it's off.. It looks too cartoony and childish, and the character designs are somewhat ugly, and generic.. Arslan's mother in the original, is so beautiful, and mysterious looking.. Her redesign looks... uninteresting, boring, bland, Arslan looks like a bug lol. Sachiko's work on Arslan is best, and almost looks like Amano's beautiful designs.. Original is pure art.. New one is toon town lol. The music in the original is also more beautiful... Such a waste.
The only thing I will say I like.. Is the more Persian style of things.. Its not enough though.. It would have been amazing, and a great masterpiece art-wise, had they brought Sachiko's back.. Her style fit Arslan so well.
waay dff