HMS Vanguard - Guide 132
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- Today we look at the last British battleship, the mighty Vanguard.
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Drachinifel
Is there any particular one of the Late 1930s-40s battleships that you wish were around in WWI so they would actually be able to live up to their reputation and engage peer opponents?
Which crew position would you least like to occupy on a WW1 or WW2 capital ship?
Mine would be stoker.
Did anyone in the USN think that Battleships would still be used in their intended role post war or did everyone just accept that from now on Battleships would just be used for costal bombardment?
Are you able to do a video on the first Vanguard? There’s a limited number of sources regarding the ship, so it’s hard to grasp what happened.
I have a question. Why are you still using a 30 second intro? Cut it down 25 seconds please.
Drachism of the Day:
5:20 "With her peacetime role including stints as the world's largest and most heavily armed yacht.
Taking various members of the Royal Family on tours of the British empire."
Kevin Kennelly
The absolute closest any battleship has ever come to being a floating hotel. And that includes the French predreads and Yamato.
It was not the first time the RN's Flagship was used as a Royal Yacht.
Ah yes, reviewing the Empire. As one does when one is able!:-) 🖖
That sounds rather British actually.
I don't know why but I really like how Vanguard looks. Gorgeous ship.
Impressive, yes; beautiful? Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My Dad, who served on Vanguard's first commission, said he thought the "KG V s" as they called them were better looking ships.
Simon Gleaden Well, it’s if you don’t mind her transem stern. Plus I do believe the bow on her was WAY better than the KGVs.
I agree actually. I like her forward superstructure, I love her bow.
I spent three days aboard HMS Vanguard on a school trip back in the 1950s, it was an experience I will never forget, it gave me a great respect for the the crews of vessels like this.
I never knew Vanguard hosted school field trips, i heard in other old school timers of their experience on the vanguard battleship as from Fleet Week uk version or former crews/sailor on vanguard. If i got a time machine to spend 5 hrs is on the sport where vanguard is. (born Gen Z/2000s kid here)
One point to add. When she broke free, she ran into a local pub called the Still and West. Still there today
The pub, not the ship
if i were to go to England & visit Portsmouth one day, i'll check that pub for a meal. (then visit Belfast and other sights)
Nothing says class like having a Battleship as your 'yacht'
As a lad in 1959 I visited HMS Vanguard when Portsmouth Dockyard had an open day. What a magnificent ship she was! We went over much of the upper deck, and maybe more. Those giant guns really impressed a 12 year old. Many other smaller warships were moored out in the harbour, some in "mothballs ", and could be viewed on a harbour cruise.
in sink the bismarck film there was some footage of vanguard to pretend as hms hood
if she was saved as muesum she would have appear different films
KlipsFilms Melbourne
Vanguard also played Bismarck in that film. All three ships are of similar size (Vanguard being the largest) and have the same turret arrangement (two 15” forward, two aft).
@@bkjeong4302 both ships did have 8 guns barrels
KlipsFilms Melbourne
And same-sized guns.
Jeez, had to read that a few times
@@bkjeong4302 The Vanguard turret loading was used, but I think the actual ships were models.
Hi, I served on the Vangaurd in 1953, as electricians mate 2nd class. Surely there are other ship mates with us still, who was serving at that time.
My dad was on the ship but not sure on dates, he jioned in 1947 he was a stokerx
Gordon Hammett served on her
ARG!! I hate when you get round to famous British ships because they all end with “...and then she was scrapped.”
Warspite’s scrapping gets me very hot under the collar to the point of rage-quitting.
Yes I know we needed the money and couldn’t have maintained these ships in the 50’s due to a lack of said money, but some of these ships are literal milestones that the whole world should be able to enjoy.
I agree it was very short sighted and a real disservice to future generations. Warspite at least should have been saved. Ideally Rodney too.
The reality as is often discussed is that the U.K. was broke & so were concerned with keeping departments and services running, which is logical but how I would love to be able to see ships like Warspite (or any QE-class) and Vanguard for myself...
I vividly remember her leaving Pompey for the scrapyard. A lot of tears were shed.
"most heavily armed yacht" - Drach 2019, lol.
Great vid Drach and crew. B)
You forgot to mention that HMS Vanguard was used as a stand in for the Hood in the Movie "Sink The Bismarck".
Is that why the Hood in that movie looked oddly new and more impressive to me when I saw the movie at a young age? I just thought these movies were using some impressive models when I saw the movie the first time...
A beautiful looking ship as well as a powerful warship.
To quote another author:Vanguard may not have been the best in any single category, but she scored high in all, thus making her one of the best BB's ever built
That sextuple 40mm Bofors mount looks amazingly cool. Would not want to be in a plane at the business of multiple of those things.
What an ironic name for the Last Battleship.
I think she was easier to than refloat Warsprit because she wasn't carrying the same weight of history
By being so concise this was more informative than all the other narratives I've read, I finally feel like I understand the fundamentals of this story.
The amount of radars on her was amazing especially compared to other navies battleships
HMS Conqueror was the last British battleship.
Wargaming wouldst lie to us. Would they?
WG uses some projects of warships that were not constructed to fill some of the empty slots on their tech trees.
I like it, it's a good example of "what if"
Sorry buddy. Vanguard was the last British battleship.
@@MaskedVengeanceTV the last to be completed and launched AS a battleship yeah
@@1IbramGaunt truth. Nor was it the last active duty battleship ever. I'm pretty sure that distinction goes to one of the Iowa classes, I dont remember exactly which one, which served in Korea, Vietnam and desert Storm.
@@MaskedVengeanceTV all 4 of them were in commision in the 80s and 90s, New Jersey was the last put in reserve and atleast 2 of them were in reserve till the late 2000s early 2010s
Vanguard was such a handsome, solid, purposeful looking ship. Probably my favourite of the lot, Warspite not counted...!
Oh god i'Ve waited so long for this
A really beautiful ship good sea boat & a very stable gun platform.
As a wee fellow, on holiday with my parents, l can remember a round the fleet tour by pleasure launch, seeing Vanguard prior to scrapping,
ABC described Vanguard as a mistake, l am inclined to agree. A very handsome one though.
The World's most heavily armed yacht. For some reason, that resonates with me. LOL Wouldn't have to worry about ANY pirates and could sail luxuriously around the world in total safety. lol
til you sailed near Somalia, and found pirates brazen enough to attack naval ships and finding your heavily armed yacht being boarded one night and a general melee breaks out on the deck when the intruders are inevitably found...
A 44,000 ton battleship with a complement of almost 2,000 people just to ferry a few, Royal family members around? Well, that is about the most wasteful use of a dreadnought battleship I can recall hearing.
Anyway.
I have have always liked this ship - for some reason.
Thank you very much for creating this video.
Its such a beautiful vessel. But they couldnt paint it in some way that it doesnt look like an ice cream truck.
I think Vanguard was the last battleship to be laid down that was completed. But it wasn't the last to be laid down, that was probably the unfinished Iowa class Illinois. And it wasn't the last battleship to be completed, the French 'completed' and commissioned Jean Bart in 1949.
Vanguard was probably also the most expensive royal yacht to operate.
ghk364
Last to be launched as well.
i was hoping for a longer video but i see that a second video on vanguard is already out before i even watched this one
Last battleship of the RN, calls it "vanguard".
Some RN officer is/was quite chuffed with themselves for pulling that off
At least it could easily be a van guard
..lol HMS Rearguard..
@@user-ol5lw3md3h you making me think of HMS Carguard…
Goes parkrun gets good time. Comes home has shower and a drach vid drops. HMS Vanguard. Good day all in all
The Vanguard was a beauty. She was one of the
prettiest battleships ever launched. Bristling with AA guns she would have found
Bettys, which sank the Prince of Wales and Repulse off Malaya on December 10,
1941 easy meat. However, it seems the use of a 15” main battery left her under
armed.
carney malone
Given that postwar testing found even an Iowa’s AA defences to be no substitute for having your own fighters, that’s debatable. Yes Bettys were infamously delicate, but still.
@@bkjeong4302 Point taken.But it is irrelevant. We are discussing the defensive power of a battleship--not an entire fleet. However, tell a Japanese pilot that he wasn't shot down by USN AA. Especially by the South Dakota at the Battle of Santa Cruz during late October where she was credited with 26 Japanese destroyed. Even allowing for exaggeration and halving this number, 13 planes destroyed is still a good show. .www.navysite.de/bb/bb57.htm (Please provide a citation for the study you refer to.)
carney malone
Actually South Dakota’s AA killcount at Santa Cruz (and of the entire US force present) has been found to be seriously overestimated by historian John Lundstrom’s analysis. American CAP was responsible for the majority of Japanese plane losses.
Even during the Battle of Okinawa fighters claimed far more Japanese aircraft than AA, and that’s after proximity fuses and effective AA formations were a thing for the Americans.
Re: Iowa-class AA not being invincible, found this link on Iowa's AA actions; some of these involved kills or fend-offs, but other planes did get past the AA and had to be downed by fighters or other ships.
www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-107_Anti-Aircraft.pdf
@@bkjeong4302 Did you read my post at all? I discounted South Dakota''s reported performance at Santa Cruz by 50%. Second who is John Lindstrom? I could not find any books by this author on Amazon. Third, I never denied the importance of fighters in defending a fleet. I didn't mention it since it is of no importance in evaluating a warship's air defense capability. It is stating the obvious that shooting down your enemy is preferable before he is in a position to damage you. Finally, the Betty was as cumbersome as it was flammable, It was 64 feet long and had a wingspan of 81 feet. The Kate, the standard IJN torpedo bomber during a large part of the war, was 33 feet long and had a wingspan of 50 feet. Large targets are easier to hit than smaller targets as any shooter knows.
HMS Vanguard had the most beautiful looking hull and would have been a great museum as a mate for Victory representing the best of British battleship designs for their times.
Shows how disillusioned the British was regarding the state of their Empire. This is like the Polish Jester painting Stańczyk, where the court Jester sits alone in a dark room having just read the news of the loss at the battle of Smolensk. Meanwhile the nobility is having an actual ball in the very next room. The Empire was devastated, millions were dead and the coffers completely dry. Meanwhile, the royals are touring the Empire on a 50 000 tonn warship.
Blah blah
Sourcouf and von-der-tan coming soon.
I'm as excited as a excitable person who has an extra special reason to be excited.
Vanguard and Hood were beautiful ships.
Been waiting for this. Thanks Drach!
That flat transom seems somehow . . . un-British.
I'll let myself out . . .through the underwater torpedo tube. ;-)
Double upload!
TFW when you will never have a yacht that can take on the Kriegsmarine... feels bad man.
Another excellent video 👍
Thanks
after 1 min of uploading you have seen the whole video?
@@doe_maar365 I have never seen one that was subpar.
@@joeford860 that's true, but it's always good to watch first and comment afterwards
Is there any ship in the world that has NOT once been top heavey?
The Fletcher class were amazingly stable, it took cramming in more aa that was in a prewar cruiser to cause them issues
The American North Carolina class battleships didn't have stability problems with the addition of more and more antiaircraft guns. They sat rather lower in the water, and weren't built with large super structures. In heavy seas though, their main deck could become rather wet.
On the royal tour of 1947 the crew intercepted princess Margaret's poop and bronzed it below decks, or so legend has it from my uncle who was a stoker serving on Vanguard at the time.
Yamato’s fire control is like full reality WarThunder while Vanguard’s fire control is like World of Warships.
Vanguard ❤️
Ahhh yes, we’ve found a way to work HMS Warspite into the equation 😂
Good morning Drach! 🌞
Great work Sir thank you
Yes! Vanguard!
ex gfs grandfather served on Vanguard for his CMS. while my grandad was playing with radios on Salisbury plain he was being sick on the north sea.
Not gonna lie, this is ONE HELL of a SHIP.
Also: 73 Bofors guns?! 73?! That’s mad.
And tthey’re the backup to the 8 twin 5.25 inch dual purpose guns?!
When people talk about capital ship armaments in Star Wars now, my brain is just going to keep coming back to this.
A fine looking ship.
Q: If the Iowa (BB61) needed 212,000 shp to make 33knots how come Vanguard made 30knots with 130,00shp (at full load). Okay the Iowa was a few thousand tons more and 70" longer. Is there something missing here? I don't get it.
Once you get to those kinds of speed each knot needs huge increases in power.
Also, thanks to the transom stern and a few other features Vanguard was somewhat better designed for efficient movement at high speed.
I guarantee Iowa class battleships did more than 33 kts. Sealand built 950 ft container ships with 2 x 60,000 shaft HP that can do 38 kts (32 kts declared) at the same draft and weight as the Iowa's. Unfortunately they burn over 600 mt of fuel per day. The US Navy never tells the true speed of any of their ships.
@@mastermariner7813 I’m not sure but my great grandpa was on Iowa and my family has a book from him that says Iowa could reach 39.7 knots a full emergency power but idk
Either you've got something wrong with Portsmouth harbor, or you need to stop imbuing your warships with sentience.
I blame it on the dark magical arts practiced during wartime and sometimes in peacetime... ^.^ ;P
I have a feeling that if Vanguard was sentient she would have fired on the people who ordered her construction out of spite for her miserable existence...
Why either or? It's clearly BOTH :D
@@bkjeong4302 Well.. to me if she exist.. She was the luckiest Battleship to never seen the horrors of the sea/war battle (sure she may seen the blitz on the construction and is accompanied by other ships also in construction like HMS Implacable, Howe,etc) But her Service is So unique & amazing she Starred in various movies & Newsreels, Literally the SHip that hosted the royal family & even chistened by the young princess now grand old immortal Queen Elizabeth (there's even a film where the sailors and royal family played sports & do shooting at sea). she had the best life before seeing the worse of the Cold war brewing in the background & Britain still Rationing & having Steel Shortages & Big Cost of Upkeep to her done her end, She is Lucky enough not to Experience Imperial Japanese Bombings & Kamikazes and the post war horrors discovered there. or at the Atlantic Got Torpedoed by a Uboat unlike Carriers whom are top priority that the Age of battleships are over, yet she defied it all by making her "Battles" in Cinema & the Public Mind to mark her Legacy. i seen comments on Quora and even a Website of a former Vanguard crew memeber similar Young & Carefree. they sailed around the world while their elders still reeling from the horrors of war and they make optimistic plans, Drink alot of Rum (before the abolishtion of the Tot ration in the 1970s-80s?) and many more. Please Remember Construction of ships are a Hard work, from planning to workers getting hard labor moving & welding parts, I'll Say she would be thankful to even Exist & sail to the Ocean unlike the Poor USS Kentucky (constructed yet unfinished & was going to get scrapped she sailed herself out), to Tirpitz who got nonstop bombing & just stuck on port & lonely and many more ships who dint see the light of day or got the worse endings (Pearl Harbor or get operation crossroads tested in a atomic bomb) i Wont be surprised that if She, some people were to ineviably die they wont first a Good drink/meal to chug & eat into (on 2018 there was a hawaii missile inbound alerm & people panick in the morning of a nuclear strike and the rest dig into their premium cold beers & looked into the sunset, chilling in the beach). She too would thank her predecessors & honor their sacrifice of the war (after all the loss of Pow & Repulse helped continued vanguard's Green light to construction & the lessons learned) and Recreated Warspite's Last stand against the Breakers to me memorable.if there is a battleship i could chose to expereince a life in, It would be Vanguard (the Experinces she had & is Airconditioned, i wont mind the Yacht & acting on a movie), sucks she cant have the Survival of the Iowa class, from vietnam to gulf war & later favorite ship to star in Hollywood Movies (latest Kong vs Godzilla, the Last ship, and even Political Ads i seen one time starred her). if vanguard somehow exist would she have gone on the falklands war? gulf & maybe an museum for british to see what it felt like & the engineering & knowledge she had, she is no hotel she served & got a peaceful retirement with a cold one drink.
@@disunityholychaos7523
She existed for no reason. One would think that would leave a major mark on a sentient ship….
If memory serves the 15 inch guns were leftover from WW 1!
Yay extended look!!
Long live the HMS Vanguard.
I think you should split the upcoming videos about canadian ships. It would be more enjoyable, if there wouldn't be a month of just canadian ships. Forgotten weapons channel had a lack of views when he made videos of similar guns in a row.
The last Battleship ever constructed, until the Yamato takes to the stars to save the human race from the Gamilons!
That was a refit, a massive refit with completely overhauling every inch of the rusty bird, then hiding it with surface rust to keep da Gami from noticing... At the same time I'd like to note they could have just built a scratch standard issue hull with alterations to the overall design just like the british did tinker with their ship before during and after constructing them...
Cool picture of Princess Elizabeth
I do believe that things can acquire a spirit of their own. Warspite is a good example of this.
Also I see it wasn't just the fire control system from the U.S. making it's way on to British ships. It seems your sailors were getting a bit jealous about us Yanks getting to exercise our second amendments rights no matter where we are.
Love these videos and your humor.
Imagine if HMS Vanguard were at the falklands war with missiles lol
Can almost picture an exocet bouncing off the hull without anyone noticing.
Modernised 5.25" mounts and goalkeepers would make short work of the argi A-4s and etendards.
general belgrano probably Wouldn't Have sunk since i doubt with vanguard in the task force belgrano Would ever get as close as it did i think it Would Have just stayed in port for most of the war
Getting rid of her guns and reconstructing the whole things (which would have been a major engineering challenge) could have made her a lethal missile cruiser.
@@bkjeong4302 No no. Replace the super firing 5.25" mounts with sea wolf and a handful of sextuplet 40mm with Goalkeeper. Britain had no dedicated AShM at the time so the main battery would serve in the anti surface role.
i Have been looking forward to this
I think the projected Lion class are
a far finer looking ship,
than the US battleship/shops
can ever hope to be
when it comes to ships of war
the brits (followed closely by the japanese, and then the russians, french, greeks...and on)
found the balance of strength and fineness of lines
Shame it couldnt be saved like the Iowas were
Something something no money something something no political will
I really don't blame the British at that time, their economy was so low they had to cut budgets especially in terms of resources particularly Steel. Battleships in particular as time goes by are very expensive to maintain and modernization is out of the question, much less turning them into a museum ship. Great Britain really has a lot of financial debts especially to United States which they only paid the remaining sum of that debt in the early 2000's.
Unlike the Iowa the Vanguard wasnt a legend... it didnt really do anything particularly noteworthy in its extremely short career.
@@FallenPhoenix86 If we were to save any battleships, Warspite would likely be the one to keep if at all possible.
FallenPhoenix except the Iowa’s weren’t particularly noteworthy either
Just a show pony. The UK had the good sense to focus their wartime efforts elsewhere to useful weapons. Vanguard was a peacetime ship built to give a good impression and be a comfortable posting for her officers and guests.
We have all been told that battleships were entirely obsolete by the onset of WW II and still, they were used in various roles including their intended to good effect. I have always wondered whether the criticisms directed against BBs were more about perception and cost. Clearly, when big guns were useful they were the go to resource. I would like to see Drachnifel cover this question as I feel it has never received the attention which it's due. Of course, we have been told one thing so many times it has to be more than simple truth else why the single answer? They were obsolete. After the War, clearly the major navies needed to assess their fleets and cut costs and the most expensive are particularly ripe for pruning. There hasn't been a great need for shore bombardment since, happily.
The thing is that you don’t need a big expensive BB to do shore bombardment or escort. So the fact they could be used in those roles doesn’t change the fact they are obsolete, because they were superceded by carriers in their intended role and other warships could do AA escort or shore bombardment with greater cost-effectiveness.
The last battleship is Jean Bart
The last hurrah of the battleline.
Great video, but she has empty deck space, and clearly needs more AA batteries.
Nonsense, we all know she runs on 9 Volt batteries! (Sorry I couldnt resist! XD)
9V batteries - I like it - very droll.
Okay, what if Vanguard wasn't scrapped, and she was refitted somewhat like the Iowas were then being used as a "Show-off" ship in the cold war. Then what if she helped in shore bombardment in the Falklands war?
To me the Vanguard always looked like a wannabe Bismarck.
Der Alman'ach
Or the reverse. After all Vanguard was bigger and better protected. That said, the two ships do look strikingly similar.
@@bkjeong4302 After all the Vanguard was younger and this makes her more modern but they have the same gun caliber and similar speed.
But it doesn’t look anything like the Bismarck
Brilliant .
73 Bofors? Shouldn't you make a crack about the being over the top like on American ships? ;>)
Love the channel - keep up the good work. cheers
USS Texas had at one point 100 AA guns, so no the ship isn't quite there yet... (It also explains why strike groups tend to vanish when they got near the Texas in WoWs...)
Iowas had in the 140s.
Why were SAM launchers never installed? Main battery gun backblast?
Retired before any operational SAMs were developed for the royal navy.
How sad that the last battleship made, from a historical maritime nation, should fall to the breakers. I as a colonial (lol) am sad that this happened. Do any of you remember the words to "Hail Britannia"?
My Father trained/served on the Vanguard.
But what a waste of money. To be scrapped as soon as it was.
Warspite and Vanguard should have never been scrapped!
Vanguard should never have been constructed in the first place. Total waste of resources.
@@simonpitt8145 Vanguard was pointless even by WWII-gen battleship standards.
@@bkjeong4302 I suppose it could be argued by battleship proponents, that the Vanguard's degree of obsolescence was mitigated by the fact her main armament was already in existence anyway. To me this is a bit thin, as it was still one hell of a ship to build just for the convenience of utilizing four WW1 vintage gun turrets that just happened to be lying around the dockyard. Ironically, by the time Vanguard was laid down Britain herself had by then proved the futility of the battleship at Taranto, the Bismarck pursuit and Matapan, but insisted on the ship's construction anyway!! Even after Pearl Harbour and the Prince of Wales/Repulse sinkings, by which time Vanguard's building would still have been only at its inchoate stage and as such could have been cancelled without much repercussion, *we still* went ahead with it.
Surely it would have been better to land those guns to reinforce a shore battery at one of Britain's many overseas interests instead. Gibraltar, Malta or Singapore perhaps. If at the last named, may be we could have even had them facing inland rather than out to sea for a change!!
Could you please repost a link for your intro music. The one in the discription doesn't work.
Technically Jean Bart was not completed till 1960 so it kinda is the last battleship?
WE LEAD
How about a review of HMS VICTORY ?
Christopher Darker
Already done. With a tour of the ship included as well.
Queen Elizabeth castles got nothing on the USS Long Beach
0:24 since the ships in the intro need to be identified,
is that a Pensacola class?....
that is as far as I am willing to commit
I was thinking a New Orleans. Or play it safe, a USN heavy cruiser ;)
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She a beautiful ship. Skrapt O My God ‼ whet the hell. 🔱🔥👹😠
The U.K. didn't want to keep her any longer, not people took interest in her being a museum ship
Is it just me or does vanguard seem like an inefficient design. It's 51k tons and only has 8 15" guns.
I guess they looked at the Bismarck and said let's do everything it does wrong except for the turtle back.
Better AA too, but yeah not the most efficient design. Especially since Vanguard was larger than the German ship.
Still, one of the more powerful surface combatants ever built (albeit obsolete on launch)
"at least so far"
IOWA 2 CONFIRMED
What a pity the British did not save a single capital ship, Vanguard or other!
Another fine British battleship that should have never been scrapped.
Vanguard is more than a fair match vs. the Bismarck rather than HMS hood
Thanks
It has always surprised me that she didn't participate in either the Korean War or the Suez intervention. With all that firepower, she would have been a great shore bombardment platform.
She was in reserve in the home fleet at time of Suez and thus her crew was not at full strength. By the time that conflict broke out, there was not enough time to work her up to full strength (assuming there was money to do so). Korea - Americans provided 4 battleships to the conflict which was adequate and London again felt no need to work her up to full strength for a conflict that effectively stalemated from 51 onwards.
A sad end to the last of a proud British tradition.
Newsreel about her being broken up: czcams.com/video/Db6bgu0gs-g/video.html
0:40 Don't do that. Don't give me hope.
The government would scrap London bridge if it could get £50 for it.
No sense of preservation for the future at all.
I don't even like its dual gun turrets that much, Seems like a huge nerf compared to KG5.
The twin turrets had been in storage since their removal from Courageous & Glorious after their conversion to aircraft carriers. They were used because triple 16 inch turrets would have taken a long time to manufacture. Even using readily available turrets, however, Vanguard wasn't completed in time for WW2.
Shouldn't of scrapped her
premature scrapping of this ship was britain´s bluntness epic fail.
An excersie of excess, total waste of money and resources
Okay I know it's not 100% true and of course context but....
You British folks seem to despise your battleships....
Well I don't
@Nguyen Johnathan doesn't mean we despise them
@Nguyen Johnathan well no but he did
Only brits could name their ship as Wankward