Queen Elizabeth Class - Design and Damage History

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  • čas přidán 1. 09. 2020
  • Today we look at the technical design history of the Queen Elizabeth class as well as how well they held up under enemy fire.
    SteamGeezer and Son - / @steamgeezeruk
    Sources:
    www.amazon.co.uk/British-Battleships-World-War-One/dp/1848321473
    www.amazon.co.uk/British-Battleships-1919-1945-WWII-Evolution-ebook/dp/B00L6Z98ZG/
    www.amazon.co.uk/British-Battleship-Norman-Friedman/dp/1848322259
    www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Fleet-Warship-Development-1906-1922/dp/184832085X
    www.amazon.co.uk/Nelson-Vanguard-Warship-Design-Development/dp/184832149X
    www.amazon.co.uk/British-Battleships-World-War-Battlecruisers/dp/0853681414
    'Super-Tiger' by Tzoli (Design Q would have been very similar)
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Komentáře • 972

  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel  Před 3 lety +114

    Pinned post for Q&A :)

    • @ibbi32
      @ibbi32 Před 3 lety +8

      Why were the Germans so keen on sending heavy forces without proper enough destroyer and light cruiser escort and why that if they send them with it almost all Break up and go so far away from the ship that needs escort as in the case with Scharnhorst

    • @reiver9031
      @reiver9031 Před 3 lety +4

      What factors go into designing capital ship top speeds beyond 'faster than our enemies'? Eg, aircraft carriers are veritable speed demons in part to help launch their planes; were there such non-chase considerations for battleships and their ilk?

    • @gerokron3412
      @gerokron3412 Před 3 lety +11

      May I issue a video idea: the living and working conditions of the crew, espicially the ones in the engine department. "Working your stokers to death" - what was it like to be a stoker?

    • @154Kilroy
      @154Kilroy Před 3 lety +3

      A bit of an odd question I think, but nevertheless... What do you think the role of submarines might be in either world war assuming torpedoes had never been invented? And what do you think the navy as a whole might look like?

    • @wildward93
      @wildward93 Před 3 lety +3

      Why did the Protected/Armored Cruiser terminology get dropped in favor of Light/Heavy Cruiser? The Scout/Light/Heavy Cruiser designs feels like a modernized renaming of Unprotected/Protected/Armored Cruiser anyway, so is there any fundamental change of context?

  • @Karmag555
    @Karmag555 Před 3 lety +959

    Warspite may not have been preserved as she so richly deserved, but at least she and Enterprise are sharing drinks in the afterlife bar exclusive to the "Literally everybody tried to sink this ship, but only her own nation's bureaucrats could succeed at it" crowd.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 Před 3 lety +28

      Tbh I do not enterprise is as good as Warspite, Enterprise mainly got lucky throughout the war. Big example of this is that SHE was so close to being at pearl harbour at the time and would of most likely been sunk there. While Warspite did a lot more through out the war and has a few more claims to fame than enterprise.

    • @nealkirkland6825
      @nealkirkland6825 Před 3 lety +11

      Magnus Victor WELL SAID my friend!

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 Před 3 lety +56

      @@mk_gamíng0609 Luck counts too. Luck seemed to follow CV-6.

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 Před 3 lety +7

      @@mgt2010fla the swordfish may not have been able to dogfight, but you suggest a better bomb truck

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 Před 3 lety +12

      @@mgt2010fla J87 arent fleet based, pointless mentioning them. Dauntless is a generation on from the Swordfish, but at least is a navy plane, and good one.

  • @Anacronian
    @Anacronian Před 3 lety +438

    Warspite: "When in doubt, sail in circles!" -"When confused, Sail into a sister ship" - "When bored find some explosives, Bombs, Mines, Torpedoes, Glider bombs will all work" - "But no matter what, Don't let them drag you to that scrapping yard!"

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před 3 lety +42

      + When not of a mood to leave port, "bump" the nearest jetty or the harbour floor wherever possible ;-) .

    • @reaperking2121
      @reaperking2121 Před 3 lety +42

      Damn right she is a fighting ship who went against the worst of the German Navy. She isnt (and Didn't) go down or sink on anything but her own terms.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 3 lety +30

      "When In Deadly Danger, When Beset By Doubt, Run In Little Circles, Wave Your Arms and Shout" - Ciaphas Cain

    • @sw96
      @sw96 Před 3 lety +8

      weldonwin Love those books, been listening to the Audiobooks of them several times over at this point, damn entertaining and funny (which is a rarity for WH40k novels).

    • @bluefang162
      @bluefang162 Před 3 lety +6

      Run yourself aground if you have to!

  • @biggeordiecliffordd8609
    @biggeordiecliffordd8609 Před 3 lety +85

    My Dad was a CPO on the Barham when it was torpedoed. As they were not at action stations, he was merrily walking back from having a shower with only a towel wrapped around him, when he felt the loud thump of the torpedoes. His recollection thereafter is somewhat hazy, but he remembers the ship listing very quickly and the order to abandon ship been given. He remembers scurrying down the slide of the ship, trying to avoid the flesh-ripping barnacles and getting into the water just before it exploded. He was injured but thankfully picked up by one of the escorting destroyers. He always considered himself fortunate to survive, especially as if they had been at action stations, his position was way down in ‘the bowels do the ship’ where exiting would not have been an option.
    He also later heard a story of the ship’s chaplain, who was last seen pushing past evacuating seamen to go down to the ships brig to release the prisoners. Although not a religious man himself, he thought this was an incredible act of selflessness.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 3 lety +267

    "and we steered around in a circle (Yeah I was wondering if any of Warspite's crew heard that before)"
    10/10 I laughed

    • @ruVader
      @ruVader Před 3 lety +19

      Captain Packer was an assistant gunnery officer on Warspite at Jutland, so... yeah. "The circle is now complete".

  • @nemosis9449
    @nemosis9449 Před 3 lety +638

    My dad served on HMS Warspite from March 41 to May 43 in the Mediterranean and he said that he always felt safe with her no mater what.

    • @TheRCScotsman
      @TheRCScotsman Před 3 lety +54

      Fantastic. What a claim to fame! I'm not surprised, Warspite was aggressively protective of her and hers.

    • @beaterbikechannel2538
      @beaterbikechannel2538 Před 3 lety +22

      Respect.
      Belli Dura Despicio.

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Před 3 lety +14

      He knew a good ship when he saw one.

    • @awesomeaustin531
      @awesomeaustin531 Před 3 lety +29

      thanks for his service and his ship's service.

    • @robv1139
      @robv1139 Před 3 lety +8

      @@awesomeaustin531 Amen.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 3 lety +356

    Queen Elizabeth Class - Design and _Damage History_
    *Looks at Warspite being literally too angry to die*
    Well, this should be interesting

    • @KatyushaLauncher
      @KatyushaLauncher Před 3 lety +44

      Even the scrappers had a bad time dismantling her

    • @mayuri4184
      @mayuri4184 Před 3 lety +47

      Bismarck, receives heavy damage: This is the end for me.
      Warspite, receiving similar damage: Ad-my-ral, it's just a flesh wound.

    • @stefanjoeres7149
      @stefanjoeres7149 Před 3 lety +19

      'tis but a scratch

    • @KatyushaLauncher
      @KatyushaLauncher Před 3 lety +34

      @@stefanjoeres7149 "A scratch? You have a 20-foot hole at the bottom of your hull"

    • @orzorzelski1142
      @orzorzelski1142 Před 3 lety +24

      Every yandere in AL: haha, shikikan is miiiiiiiiiine!
      Warspite: Whosoever tries to take the Commander away from me will first have to face my cannons!
      Yanderes: I'mma take my leave now.

  • @TBone-bz9mp
    @TBone-bz9mp Před 3 lety +406

    In my preferred universe the Warspite and Vanguard are docked together with the Victory at Portsmouth. The latter having retired in 1983, after a trip down to a certain pair of Islands. Also British Rail sells actually affordable tickets!!

    • @CSSVirginia
      @CSSVirginia Před 3 lety +31

      Dang, that would be worth me crossing the pond to see!

    • @Lone_Wolf_Radio
      @Lone_Wolf_Radio Před 3 lety +88

      That was actually believable... Until the Affordable tickets part!

    • @TBone-bz9mp
      @TBone-bz9mp Před 3 lety +22

      George Crabb
      I know....affordable priced public transport! What fantastical whimsy!

    • @CSSVirginia
      @CSSVirginia Před 3 lety +1

      @@TBone-bz9mp haha :) made my day.

    • @OddHunter5504
      @OddHunter5504 Před 3 lety +29

      That sure as hell differs from my universe where HMS Hood and Warspite are preserved and the Big four railway companies still exist

  • @maxkennedy8075
    @maxkennedy8075 Před 3 lety +265

    Warspite did an impression of the Black knight from Monty Python at Jutland

    • @benhack3102
      @benhack3102 Před 3 lety +14

      Max kennedy tis but a scratch

    • @154Kilroy
      @154Kilroy Před 3 lety +50

      Correction; the black knight did an impression of Warspite in Monty Python...

    • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
      @AWMJoeyjoejoe Před 3 lety +35

      "Your steering is broken!"
      "No it isn't!"
      "Look!!"
      "I've had worse!"

    • @Kellen6795
      @Kellen6795 Před 3 lety +4

      No no no no. The black Knight is based off the Warspite!

    • @lukedelport8231
      @lukedelport8231 Před 3 lety +1

      Come on man you can't do that stuff 😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it man

  • @donbaldwin6998
    @donbaldwin6998 Před 2 lety +27

    I had the good fortune and privilege to visit the current HMS Queen Elizabeth twice. It struck me that, entering the wardroom, there was a striking photo in B&W of her predecessor front and center to the hatch. In a place of honor to the wardroom, was the old ship's bell mounted and polished. Very classy and a fitting tribute to a fighting ship of the past with a link to a first rate ship of the present. The Royal Navy traditions stand the test of time.

  • @chorleycake7942
    @chorleycake7942 Před 3 lety +407

    HMS Warspite, my most favourite ship and name for a ship ever.

    • @richardmalcolm1457
      @richardmalcolm1457 Před 3 lety +29

      The RN needs another Warspite.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před 3 lety +9

      Lost Alone the original HMS Conqueror was a captured French ship

    • @Lowkeh
      @Lowkeh Před 3 lety +27

      Aye, name's certainly up there, together with HMS Dreadnought

    • @Jon.A.Scholt
      @Jon.A.Scholt Před 3 lety +30

      @Richard Malcolm One of the new Dreadnought-class nuclear submarines the royal Navy is planning and building is going to be named Warspite. I'm glad they kept the name going.

    • @alienXcow24
      @alienXcow24 Před 3 lety +4

      @@richardmalcolm1457 I believe they have a new Valiant class submarine by that name

  • @SteamGeezerUK
    @SteamGeezerUK Před 3 lety +117

    Stop it, you're going to make me blush. I'm glad you're pleased with it and it'll be useful to you. I actually learned a lot myself building this, about ships as well as anything else. Thanks for the opportunity and I look forward to working with you again in the future :-)

    • @rtello45
      @rtello45 Před 3 lety +6

      Came across your video purely by accident. Watched all the episodes and learned a lot. A great job. Love how you explain the whole process. Now do more ships for him. :)

    • @SteamGeezerUK
      @SteamGeezerUK Před 3 lety +5

      @@rtello45 I need to have a cup of tea and a lie down first ;-)

    • @tholmes2169
      @tholmes2169 Před 3 lety +4

      Extremely excellent craft. Thank you!

    • @Eulemunin
      @Eulemunin Před 3 lety +4

      Keep blushing that level of skill need to be acknowledged.

  • @GeneralKenobiSIYE
    @GeneralKenobiSIYE Před 3 lety +42

    I LOVE building models. Back in 2015, when I was in hospital for months, my aunt had asked me if I wanted anything to help keep me occupied while there and I commented how it would have been the perfect time to build 1/700 scale models. She asked me if there was any I wanted, and I asked for the Tamiya 1/700 scale HMS Hood with E Class destroyer as it was the first model I ever built as a child of age 8 and did a great job on it looking back. Of course, my father being who he was, ALWAYS threw out my models, drawings as to him, the models were mere TOYS and my drawing would never get me anywhere in life so thought I shouldn't waste time. Now that I am an adult with my own money and a home, and with a very understanding wife who bought me HMS Barham. When my aunt was ordering, she asked me about several other models she had seen which were HMS Barham, and HMS Repulse. She got me the Tamiya HMS Repulse too and I hadn't even asked for it. lol So with CA glue and appropriate paints, fine grain sanders, a wonderful hobby knife as well as sprue cutters and tweezers, she must have spent around $80. I had finished them before I was out of hospital. From there my "fleet" grew into a great 1/700 scale armada. I built HMS Hood (1941 version), HMS Renown, HMS Lion, HMS Princess Royal, HMS Queen Mary, HMS Tiger, HMS Warspite (both 1915 and 42), HMS Queen Elizabeth (1918 and 41) HMS Invincible, HMS Dreadnought, HMS Indefatigable, HMS Prince of Wales, HMS King George V, SMS Derflinger, SMS Lutzow, SMS Von der Tann, SMS Seydlitz, SMS Blucher, SMS Bayern, SMS Konig, SMS Kaiser, KMS Scharnhorst, KMS Gneisenau, KMS Bismarck, KMS Graf Spee, KMS Prince Eugen, USS Maryland, USS Arizona, USS Yorktown CV-5, USS Enterprise CV-6, USS New Jersey, USS Antietam, USS Forest Sherman, USS Hopper, USS Momsen, USS Lassen, USS Mobil Bay, IJN Kongo 1914 battlecruiser, IJN Kongo 1944, IJN Mikasa. They have ALL got the photoetch detail sets, including the rails. I found Dark Ghost Grey does better when it comes to painting a ship. The actual colors ships were painted do not scale down very well and they look much darker than they would have at full size.
    I also have a 1/350 scale USS Forest Sherman, USS Momsen, and HMS Hood. The Hood is a fun project of mine as I have added a bunch of modern weapons. 4 Harpoon missile launchers, 4 Tomahawk cruise missile launchers and 4 CIWS Phalanx turrets, and Mk-29 Sea Sparrow Missile Launchers in the spots where those USELESS UP rocket launchers were mounted and the left over radar domes from the Arleigh Burke models as the detail kits have BRASS radar domes, so the plastic domes are on various spots on Hood, but nothing really intrusive. It really does look like a modern day refit that kept the beautiful aesthetics of the original. hahaha
    Yeah... I had a lot of time in hospital and then months recovering to build all those ships.

    • @morriganmhor5078
      @morriganmhor5078 Před 2 lety +5

      Could you send photos of the modernized HMS Hood, please?

    • @gayprepperz6862
      @gayprepperz6862 Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, you just described my childhood. I grew up in an orphanage, and someone bought me a model of the USS Arizona, and it took off from there. You're story made me smile and brought back memories long forgotten. Soon my room at the orphanage was filled with American navy task forces. I wouldn't settle for one model of a class of ships, I had to every ship of the class! To a fellow modelist, thank you for the memories.

  • @TheTacDem
    @TheTacDem Před 3 lety +321

    The fact that they didn't atleast save Warspite as a museum ship should count as a war crime

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před 3 lety +32

      Aye, or at least substituted Queen Elizabeth when Warspite's hull condition became known.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jimtaylor294 twas but a scratch.

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 Před 3 lety +17

      Not a war crime, but a damn shame that they didn't keep the old lady

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 Před 3 lety +29

      The British have always scrapped everything. Sometimes basically new stuff! Sometimes really useful stuff. And some of the most historically valuable ships on this planet! I could go on. We Americans manage to hang on to some. Back in the '70s Jimmy Carter wanted to scrap the Iowas. Passive agressive stalling by the Navy and a HUGE public outcry prevented it.Thank God!

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Před 3 lety +21

      @@daleeasternbrat816 it's a side effect of having alot more history than the US. We have to pick and choose alot more carefully, since our preservation budgets include castles, churches, ancient ruins, you name it, we have it to preserve. Which is great, but it also sucks that it chooses us to pick and choose.
      Also, we've as country never developed a major attachment to a really big ship, we never needed to, as historically we had more of them than anyone else so we developer attachments to fleets instead. And more recently, we abandoned bigger fleets & massive ships quicker than most once we realised, we really don't need them. Without an empire and major overseas holdings, you really don't need to spend the effort, money or manpower to make yourself look tough, especially since it's been 75 years since there was a real large scale conflict that justifies them. Yes that conflict was ww2, everything since has been regional stuff.

  • @mayuri4184
    @mayuri4184 Před 3 lety +442

    Warspite: 'Tis but a flesh wound.

    • @julieclark1765
      @julieclark1765 Před 3 lety +33

      *Angry high seas fleet noises*

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 Před 3 lety +26

      Face hardened plot armour.

    • @joshthomas-moore2656
      @joshthomas-moore2656 Před 3 lety +26

      Germans: That ship has plot armour its cheating.
      Warspite: I don't need plot armour, i am a Queen Elizabeth class.

    • @shoootme
      @shoootme Před 3 lety +15

      The high sea fleet: Your arms fell off!

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 Před 3 lety +28

      @@shoootme Warspite: looks at half sunken hull in shallow mediterranean water. "No they didn't."

  • @richhughes7450
    @richhughes7450 Před rokem +8

    The Queen Liz and Nelson and KGV Classes were bloody beasties. Thanks for sharing Mate.

  • @rajekamar8473
    @rajekamar8473 Před rokem +6

    I recall my grandfather saying Malaya's guns were worn smooth when they went out to tackle Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Your comment on barrel life reduction due to the supercharging makes sense there.

  • @kurumi394
    @kurumi394 Před 3 lety +43

    I'm happy I have something to do while I finish my statics assignment

  • @John-ru5ud
    @John-ru5ud Před 3 lety +32

    Admiral Cunningham appeared on the deck of the Queen Elizabeth for flag raising the morning after the attack at Alexandria to indicate that "nothing had happened."

  • @ReclinedPhysicist
    @ReclinedPhysicist Před 3 lety +108

    Drach, before I discovered your series all I knew about Navy ships was they float, they're big, and they go boom. Lol

    • @davidburton2229
      @davidburton2229 Před 3 lety +7

      you wernt wrong :D

    • @philvanderlaan5942
      @philvanderlaan5942 Před 3 lety +5

      Mike you forgot (bad German accent) und der aft falls oft .

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Před 3 lety +6

      @@philvanderlaan5942 and (bad Australian accent) the front did NOT fall off.

    • @andreww2098
      @andreww2098 Před 3 lety +1

      If they are British at Jutland, BOOM when you don't want them too!

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Před 3 lety +1

      You need to mostly be concerned when they stop floating without that been a key part of their design.

  • @joshthomas-moore2656
    @joshthomas-moore2656 Před 3 lety +228

    Queen Elizabeth class damage history "Oh boy this will be a long list."

    • @sr71blackbirddr
      @sr71blackbirddr Před 3 lety +29

      Think it might of been quicker to list the weapons that didn't hit them 🤣

    • @joshthomas-moore2656
      @joshthomas-moore2656 Před 3 lety +17

      @@sr71blackbirddr whish is basically pistols

    • @sr71blackbirddr
      @sr71blackbirddr Před 3 lety +9

      @@joshthomas-moore2656 🤣 That would be about right 🤪

    • @sillypuppy5940
      @sillypuppy5940 Před 3 lety +13

      Greek fire. Snakes in pots.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 Před 3 lety +14

      @@sillypuppy5940 German/ Japanese kitchen sink

  • @johnfisher9692
    @johnfisher9692 Před 3 lety +24

    Thank you for a detailed report on one of the most important and powerful classes of Battleships ever completed.
    HMS Warspite seems to have had an extra special level of protection built in given her legendary ability to survive damage which would have sent many a lesser ship to the bottom.
    That model is awesome Drach and I am both envious and jealous of it. Take very good care of it and if by some impossible to understand reason, you get tired of it, put me down as someone who would be delighted to offer it a home.
    I used to build those Airfix models when younger but my skills were never of this caliber, and my eyesight has deteriated too much to ever hope of doing so again.

  • @wmh829386
    @wmh829386 Před 3 lety +101

    I would argue that QE class is the first battleship with a fully integrated FC control suite.
    Director, Dreyer table mk IV (which has an automatic and helm-free rangekeeper, also with bearing and range plot which allowed director setting to be continuously updated. Only ballistic calculation are not integrated), a gun control tower with director, range finder and control officer combined. And finally 15ft RF on all turrets

    • @steeltrap3800
      @steeltrap3800 Před 3 lety +17

      HMS Barham proved to be one of the most accurate of the capital ships of either side at the battle of Jutland, and the class generally proved very effective.

    • @rtrThanos
      @rtrThanos Před 3 lety +3

      Nicholas Wong I would argue that saying “FC control suit” is like saying fire control control suite...a suite that controls fire control. But why would anyone waste time arguing about something that doesn’t matter.

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@rtrThanos for the lols?

  • @paulwhite6745
    @paulwhite6745 Před 3 lety +34

    Actually, Warspite isn't quite gone, even today. There's still substantial parts of her buried in the mud at Marazion, including not only her boilers but also, as I understand it, her keel and much of her double bottom. There are fragments of her ashore too, including a chunk of her armour belt preserved by the salvage company Macsalvors, quite a lot of timber incorporated into various buildings, as well as other relics like her ensign, ship's bell and ship's wheel. A shame all of those remains couldn't be brought together in one place and turned into a Warspite museum, maybe incorporated into a full-size concrete replica of the ship (see USS Illinois replica battleship for an idea of what I'm talking about). I know it will never happen, the cost would be prohibitive and the engineering challenges of recovering what's left of the hull would be enormous, but in an idea world it's something I'd like to see.

    • @ashpollen65
      @ashpollen65 Před rokem +5

      Not forgetting Warspites' chapel door in Royal Navy museum in portsmouth. My great great uncle was the chaplain 😁

    • @matthewmoore5698
      @matthewmoore5698 Před rokem +1

      And a couple of million razor blades

    • @richardbacon429
      @richardbacon429 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Royal oak is in 1 piece not that deep love it to rise

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 Před měsícem

      In some way i think its best those pieces remain where they are. They are her grave stones. Tha4 being said, maybe finding some and using them to create a new scale model of her to mark her resting place would be fitting

  • @Ichiruk1
    @Ichiruk1 Před 3 lety +69

    Are we sure this isn't "how effective is the plot armor of the QEs relative to warspite"
    Jokes aside, yes another interesting ep!

    • @Wilsontripplets
      @Wilsontripplets Před 8 měsíci +1

      I would say around 70% as they lasted pretty long and did not die easily

  • @wun1gee
    @wun1gee Před 3 lety +30

    "Our old friends, the FW-190s."
    You have to love the British.

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 Před 2 lety +1

      probably used another word for Focker which sounds much like it ...

  • @TheLiamis
    @TheLiamis Před 3 lety +25

    The grand old lady. Belie dura despicia. She was truly impressive.

  • @ayylmao9697
    @ayylmao9697 Před 3 lety +81

    The true HMS invincible : Warspite

    • @wylandnares8642
      @wylandnares8642 Před 3 lety +9

      UNSC Pillar of Autumn and battlestar Galactica:
      Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!

  • @dernwine
    @dernwine Před 3 lety +36

    When Beaty was given command of the Grand fleet.... *long pause* sigh.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 Před 3 lety +12

      Oddly enough. He wasn't actually that bad, and his emphasis on a greater degree of initiative on the part of his commanders was a positive move.
      Having said that, he never commanded the fleet in action...............!

  • @KiloSierra213Sierra
    @KiloSierra213Sierra Před 3 lety +24

    Last time I was here this early, torpedo rams still looked like a good idea.
    And hey, another magnificent video subject - we really don't deserve Drach

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 Před 3 lety +2

      Was that the first time they used them or when the Japanese used them in WW2

  • @The_Viscount
    @The_Viscount Před 3 lety +30

    "Hail to the Queen, you Jerry bastards!" Queen Elizabeth gunner, probably.

  • @ratsstuff1952
    @ratsstuff1952 Před 3 lety +16

    Another great watch Drach and thanks for the detail over the Jutland night action in a earlier vid. That was my Grandfathers bit however. My fathers involvement was as an Iron, Caulker, Riveter in Pompey dockyard. I followed him in in '85 so what about a series on the dockyards that supported the fleet home and abroad? By the way my old man performed the last riveting on a commissioned RN vessel (the beautiful Yacht) before she did her final tour with Queenie. He retired at 60 and died last year at 86 years old, bless him. Just a thought...

  • @Maddog3060
    @Maddog3060 Před 3 lety +23

    HMS Warspite after getting hit by Fritz-X: "U wot m8?"

  • @nudibanches
    @nudibanches Před 3 lety +20

    Warspite, steaming around in circles since Jutland....

  • @jmack7615
    @jmack7615 Před 3 lety +5

    As always, another great educational and entertaining presentation. The model looks amazing. Thanks for showcasing it, and thanks for doing what you do.

  • @davidpenney2392
    @davidpenney2392 Před 3 lety +55

    Love the Queen Elizabeth class battleships, but my favourite of them has to be HMS Warspite. I have a trumpeter 1/350 model to build

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před 3 lety +3

      Same. Also got the 1:600 kit.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Před 3 lety +4

      Still so disappointing it wasn't preserved, can't think of any other ship with such an outstanding career.

    • @sw96
      @sw96 Před 3 lety +6

      cgi2002 With a shorter career but, depending on point of view, a more impactful career there’s CV-6 USS Enterprise, tragically another hero of WW2 that wasn’t preserved.

    • @notshapedforsportivetricks2912
      @notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sw96 Heroines, surely.

    • @sw96
      @sw96 Před 3 lety +4

      @@notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Fair point, most ships are a 'she' unless you're Russian IIRC

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Před 3 lety +46

    Looking at the model of Queen Elizabeth I think most of us can only dream that we could build something like that.

    • @davidburton2229
      @davidburton2229 Před 3 lety +1

      the resin basing is lovely too

    • @philvanderlaan5942
      @philvanderlaan5942 Před 3 lety +10

      My model building is so bad the last one I built was Bismarck that due to spilled model glue and 3 left hands ender up looking more like Arizona on December 8th.

    • @NickPoeschek
      @NickPoeschek Před 3 lety +4

      I have zero artistic talent, but with enough patience I’ve been able to build some reasonably decent looking models. If you are interested in building a kit, just take your time, watch some CZcams tutorials, and ask questions on some online forums. It’s a great hobby!

    • @Leovat25
      @Leovat25 Před 3 lety +2

      Phil Vanderlaan my Arizona looks like they cancelled it while building her

    • @Phaaschh
      @Phaaschh Před 3 lety +5

      My Airfix model of the Bismarck got taken down to Hove lagoon, soaked in white spirit and, once lit, got pushed out into the boating lake, all melting masts and giving off toxic black smoke and flames, all in amongst the other kiddies toy boats. The mothers were apoplectic, but us 11 year olds thought it was brilliant.

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Před 3 lety +6

    Drach - I really loved the first part of this video - I have not got to the second half!
    Churchill and the Admiralty really had some balls to build those ships before they had even tested the 15 inch gus.

  • @warlord8525
    @warlord8525 Před 3 lety +10

    One of the most beautiful class of battleships ever built

  • @harrisonrawlinson5650
    @harrisonrawlinson5650 Před 3 lety +13

    The QE class is my favourite class of ships, the first RN Battleship in the AB XY configuration and the first ships to have 15” guns. They were fairly durable and left space for modernisation later on

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 Před 3 lety +1

      I think there classed as Dreadnoughts tho.

    • @joemaloney1019
      @joemaloney1019 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mk_gamíng0609 Super-dreadnoughts

    • @poikoi1530
      @poikoi1530 Před rokem

      ​@@mk_gamíng0609 Dreadnoughts are still battleships, it's just that, Dreadnought have a significantly different doctrine and design to previous battleships (called pre-dreadnought battleships)
      but, these are semantics anyways

  • @ChiefMiddleFinger
    @ChiefMiddleFinger Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent black and white photographs ! The design drawings were also exceptional for the time.
    Great Channel !

  • @christopheryoung3356
    @christopheryoung3356 Před 3 lety +14

    So interesting to hear about the damage done to HMS Warspite after just seeing a Fritz-X bomb on display aboard the USS Massachusetts and the mention of the hit on the Warspite on the placard above.

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 Před 3 lety +1

      Did they mention the Roma as well?

    • @christopheryoung3356
      @christopheryoung3356 Před 3 lety +3

      @@lavrentivs9891 yes. In fact, the placard talks about its use in the Mediterranean in 1943 where the Roma was sunk, the HMS Warspite severely damaged and the USS Savannah was also severely damaged.
      The bomb was radio controlled and had short wings near its center of lift and a box kite like tail with steerable surfaces to glide in on its target - damned clever, those Germans.
      I took pictures, but I don't think I can post in a CZcams comment.

    • @armand9404
      @armand9404 Před 3 lety

      @@christopheryoung3356 you could link to a page where the pictures are posted.

    • @christopheryoung3356
      @christopheryoung3356 Před 3 lety +1

      @@armand9404 Ok, well let's try this. Here is a picture of the Fritz-X bomb on display onboard USS Massachusetts at Battleship Cove, Fall River, MA, USA.
      drive.google.com/file/d/1VLCU4mNz0PjGsPnqjyPLr2txg3hsTvux/view?usp=drivesdk

  • @winghungyuen2726
    @winghungyuen2726 Před 3 lety +9

    Take care to remember VJ Day everyone.
    Also thanks for this video Drach, gives something to watch before my college virtual classes.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 Před 3 lety

    My word I'll enjoy watching these 40 years from now in my senior's residence. Excellent topic.

  • @ollieahokas9179
    @ollieahokas9179 Před 3 lety +1

    I happend to find the series of building the model and able to see the last episode yesterday, so the release of this video, was perfect timing and I may tackle on the same kit this winter... Cheers!

  • @jeffreytam7684
    @jeffreytam7684 Před 3 lety +4

    So happy to see another fascinating special episode.
    Hopefully you run out of ships to do 5 minute guides on soon so we can get more specials.
    /s

  • @ColetteNoir
    @ColetteNoir Před 3 lety +4

    Well done!!! These are my favorite class of warship ever, and the Warspite my favorite ship!

  • @Teleoceras
    @Teleoceras Před 3 lety +2

    Wow, that model is FANTASTIC! Kudos to the builder!

  • @garystaud5022
    @garystaud5022 Před 3 lety +2

    17:16.....Steamgeezer! What a stellar complement to this already excellent channel!!

  • @ralach
    @ralach Před 3 lety +6

    Wish i had the ability to build a model to that level of detail! very well done, that man :)

  • @VersusARCH
    @VersusARCH Před 3 lety +33

    December 1941 was a really bad month for Allied battleships... Pearl Harbor, Force Z and the Alexandria Raid. 4 lost for good and 7 knocked out of the war for months (sometimes years).

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 Před 3 lety +12

      Great month for aircraft and frogmen however^^

    • @sander6438
      @sander6438 Před 2 lety +1

      3 bb lost bc repulse is a battlecruiser

    • @koltp1909
      @koltp1909 Před 2 lety +1

      Shame the Japanese killed Prince of Wales

    • @Cdntrvler54
      @Cdntrvler54 Před 2 lety +1

      Actually, 1941 was a very bad year for the Royal Navy, as they lost in time order, Hood, Ark Royal, Barham, PoW, Repulse sunk. Then the Alexandria raid with Pearl Harbour.

    • @padurarulcriticsicinic4846
      @padurarulcriticsicinic4846 Před 2 měsíci

      Imagine if the explosive charge meant for Eagle did not end up on that tanker. Instead, it would have been also attached to Queen Elizabeth. It might have knocked out the ship from the war and the registry.

  • @jimtalbott9535
    @jimtalbott9535 Před 3 lety +2

    An ad for some sort of cheese-craving related grilled cheese sandwich, which could be ASMR, and an extended guide on the QE class! AHHHHH! Perfect.

  • @tinafoster8665
    @tinafoster8665 Před 3 lety +6

    The Queens were stately vessels imo, those 15" dual turrets are awesome

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 3 lety +24

    Thank you for this video.
    I REALLY like this class.
    To me, the QE class is the Royal Navy's first, truly modern, battleship class.
    The earlier classes all had goofy wing/mid ships turrets PLUS were too small/slow to ever be anything but stop gap ships (even the Iron Dukes).
    These also might be the first truly, modern battleship class...period.
    Powerful guns, decent armor and solid speed.
    If they had been given state-of-the-art boilers during the late 1930's - they might have been able to go 27-28+(?) knots and thus be thoroughly modern (with radar) battleships.
    Not top-of-the-line. But excellent second line/carrier escort ships.
    Not bad for ships designed before the First World War.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 Před 3 lety

      They were Dreadnoughts tho

    • @jmcc4566
      @jmcc4566 Před 3 lety +2

      But by the standards of their time the Iron Dukes (for example) WERE truly modern and all that. Compared to other navies' battleships of the early 1910s the Iron Dukes were of a good size speed for a heavy battleship (although not remarkable for either quality) and were more heavily armed than their intended opponents.

    • @McRocket
      @McRocket Před 3 lety +2

      @@jmcc4566 Yes, but they laid down the Iron Duke just 9 months before laying down the QE. So surely they were designing the QE before they began the Iron Duke's. So obviously they would have known that the QE's (and the USS Nevada) would instantly render the Iron Duke dated at best - obsolete at worst - the day it was launched.
      Considering how incredibly expensive battleships were and the fact that Britain already had a huge dreadnought lead on Germany...I think the Iron Duke's were a silly build...just KGV's with 6 inch secondaries...which in turn were just bigger Orion's.
      You have your opinion.
      But, to me, the Queen Elizabeth was the first, truly modern battleship.

    • @joemaloney1019
      @joemaloney1019 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mk_gamíng0609 Super dreadnoughts.

    • @joemaloney1019
      @joemaloney1019 Před 2 lety +3

      @@McRocket In my fantasy world the Iron Dukes were regunned with eight 14 inch cannon suppressing the center turret and replacing it with new boilers and turbines like the Queen Elizabeth. The result QE lookalike with 14 inchers capable of 26 knots.

  • @stevevalley7835
    @stevevalley7835 Před 3 lety +5

    wrt the attack in Alexandria, Valiant was not hurt as badly as QE because the mine was not placed ideally. The Italian mines were suspended on a cable under the ship. The cable was supported by clamps on the ship's bilge keels. In the case of the QE, the mine was placed ideally, only a few feet under the hull. In the case of Valiant, the pilot of the "manned torpedo" the frogmen were riding lost control and it jammed into the mud below the ship. The back seater passed out from difficulty with his rebreather. The pilot could not manhandle the mine and cable system by himself, so set the timer and surfaced, with his backseater, where they were captured by the Brits. The mine was something like 20 feet below the hull, so did not do quite as much damage as it would have if placed correctly.

  • @therocinante3443
    @therocinante3443 Před 3 lety

    What an awesome and well storied ship. Also quite the story teller on deck. Thanks and enjoy the day!

  • @hugod2000
    @hugod2000 Před 3 lety +1

    wonderful, made my day. thanks for posting.

  • @nullanonsonemmenoiocosascr6676

    HMS Warspite: *Exist*
    Every navy against the British empire : DESTROY THAT DAMNED SHIP
    they try every single trick in the book
    HMS Warspite: i will never sink, Brittannia rules the waves
    (P.S. spero for any mistake in the text,i am a bit rusty...)

    • @Lgs260495
      @Lgs260495 Před 3 lety +11

      In the end:
      RN: I'm sorry, but you have to be put down
      Warspite: NEVER!, I'd rather kill myself than to lose life at your hands!

  • @Dlr_photoart
    @Dlr_photoart Před 3 lety +22

    I wished old Warspite had been kept, imagine how awsome she have looked sitting where Belfast is today. But sadly she was totally finished by wars end, do love how she wouldn't go to the brakers without a fight 😂 defiant till the end

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 Před 3 lety +3

      I must confess I am not well informed about the depth and width of the Thames. Would she fit? Portsmouth or Scapa Flow (or maybe Rosyth) might be better choices.

    • @Dlr_photoart
      @Dlr_photoart Před 3 lety +4

      @@gokbay3057 a mute point she was far to far gone by wars end, she'd not recovered from the fritz x hits delivered to her, and she would has cost far too much to preserve, at a time when her steel was badly needed,

  • @johndunbar7504
    @johndunbar7504 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for this. I'm an academic professional historian with minimal abilities in understanding complex engineering developments. You made it all perfectly digestible. I love that model. To die for'. !

    • @jonathanstrong4812
      @jonathanstrong4812 Před rokem

      My interest in every type of warships which who was from the sail of the line right-up to the 21ST Century And i've read that the replacement SSBNs the Dreadnought-class SSBNs which who one of them would be named HMS/M Warspite which who had been a nuclear-attack-submarine And the second of the brand-new Dreadnought-class SSBN which who was also the first SSN after the first SSN which who was the first nuclear-powered submarine which who would be commissioned sixty-years ago in 1963 The reason of all-types of warships is that i'm trying several different time-periods One of my ideas which who was a fictional HMS/M DREADNOUGHT SSN'S

  • @fixeshousestuff9159
    @fixeshousestuff9159 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely brilliant. I am new to the channel and just love it. Thanks!

  • @sparepartssparepartsempori519

    Fun fact, the shell HMS Malaya Fired at the Genoa Cathedral fortunately didn't detonate and is on display in the cathedral to this day.

    • @dayaautum6983
      @dayaautum6983 Před 3 lety

      I take it then that everyone must take off their shoes before entering and can not speak above a whisper while at the Genoa Cathedral?

    • @sparepartssparepartsempori519
      @sparepartssparepartsempori519 Před 3 lety

      @@dayaautum6983 one would hope that they had the insight to defuse the shell before displaying it, though this is italy we are talking about

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 Před 3 lety +2

      Let us all hope the fuze wasn't set with a time delay.

  • @champagnegascogne9755
    @champagnegascogne9755 Před 3 lety +37

    Belli dura despicio ("I Despise the Hard Knocks of War")

    • @jvtagle
      @jvtagle Před 3 lety +1

      Music to my ears

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 Před 3 lety +3

      @Hunter6213 Not really, just the real life motto of Warspite (which is what Azur Lane is referencing too)

    • @stonks6616
      @stonks6616 Před 3 lety

      @@gokbay3057 lol

  • @wulfie1199
    @wulfie1199 Před 3 lety

    Another great video mate and yeah I watched his progress on the ship very very good watch! gave me loads of tips for my current model of bismarck 1/350.

  • @beaney56
    @beaney56 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely brilliant video.

  • @leigonaire7623
    @leigonaire7623 Před 3 lety +53

    "It's all fun & games 'till the Warspite shows up."

    • @kistler1994
      @kistler1994 Před 3 lety +4

      Then it's just fun.

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 Před 3 lety +5

      @@kistler1994 Its always fun to watch your enemies run in terror at the mere mention of your name.

    • @1TruNub
      @1TruNub Před 3 lety +5

      Never mess with a grand old lady

    • @bluefang162
      @bluefang162 Před 3 lety +3

      Pretty much as she has an uncanny tendency to ram into virtually anything

    • @SennaAugustus
      @SennaAugustus Před 3 lety +2

      An article called "Warspite at Jutland" has this line about U-63 running away from Warspite. "He dived in such a hurry that his tail came up out of the water."

  • @jimtaylor294
    @jimtaylor294 Před 3 lety +6

    Another excellent vid', upon this most legendary class of warship.
    I recall a CG illustration of Warspite (done for Wargaming), which looked like she was chasing a pair of fighter planes... or that the latter were running away from her XD.

  • @williamashbless7904
    @williamashbless7904 Před 7 měsíci

    Serious quality stuff. Thank you.

  • @Jimorian
    @Jimorian Před 3 lety +2

    That is indeed a beautiful model. Well done to your friend!

  • @Ralph-yn3gr
    @Ralph-yn3gr Před 3 lety +11

    Holy moly that model is amazing! I don't think I've ever seen anything like it! The only possible thing better would be a full on life-sized replica (some billionaire really should get on that).

  • @stephenturner2870
    @stephenturner2870 Před 3 lety +8

    Such a shame Britain did not preserve at least one of these magnificent ships as a museum. My grandfather served in the Pacific aboard battleship USS Washington, at least her sister ship the USS North Carolina was preserved and can be visited today in Virginia.

    • @shaner9155
      @shaner9155 Před rokem

      North Carolina is actually in Wilmington NC.

    • @pborgia1
      @pborgia1 Před rokem

      @@shaner9155 correct!

  • @kevinhoffman6592
    @kevinhoffman6592 Před rokem

    Excellent video model added nice touch

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 Před 3 lety

    Fascinating video, and that is one beautiful model!

  • @FRAGIORGIO1
    @FRAGIORGIO1 Před 3 lety +3

    I personally liked the 1930s aspect best for aesthetics, but I understand the advantages of the updatings . I was amazed that the Warspite had so few dead and wounded from that German flying bomb ! Thanks so much !

  • @jamesa702
    @jamesa702 Před 3 lety

    Excellent study of the QE class. Very enjoyable.

  • @johnashley-smith4987
    @johnashley-smith4987 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video! I must agree with you on the photo-etch issue! Beautiful model , even without the railings!

  • @mikehoshall6150
    @mikehoshall6150 Před 3 lety +8

    Yes Drach, very nice model indeed. I must say it’s really too bad they didn’t save Warspite. Could you imagine walking outboard of the Belfast onto Warspite? I’d sure love to spend a few days down in her engine rooms.

  • @tinafoster8665
    @tinafoster8665 Před 3 lety +23

    Poor sailors on HMS Barham, R.I.P.

    • @mcduck5
      @mcduck5 Před 3 lety +2

      I hope it would have been quick!

  • @beachcomber2008
    @beachcomber2008 Před 3 lety

    Such enjoyable stories, told with aplomb. Thanks.

  • @jackray1337
    @jackray1337 Před 3 lety

    wow. That model is awesome. Thank you for the video.

  • @davy1458
    @davy1458 Před 2 lety +3

    I love the look of the "queen Anne mansion " style bridge.....it looks better than any other nations battleship bridges

  • @BattleshipWarspite
    @BattleshipWarspite Před 3 lety +4

    Queen Elizabeth class were among greatest battleship ever made.
    QE-Class is my favourite battleship class
    There record were outstanding.
    HMS Queen Elizabeth
    HMS Warspite
    HMS Valiant
    HMS Barham
    HMS Malaya

  • @MarcStjames-rq1dm
    @MarcStjames-rq1dm Před 3 lety

    I love this channel!!!! Thank you for all your work especially concerning the times..... Cheers!

  • @NeilFLiversidge
    @NeilFLiversidge Před 3 lety

    Great talk and a fantastic model!

  • @LeCharles07
    @LeCharles07 Před 3 lety +4

    In this last drydock episode you mentioned that in footage of the sinking of HMS Barham you can see the boilers (or possibly debris from them) flying away. Could you post a picture where you circle them or something? I was trying to see what you were talking about but there's so much debris I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

  • @akacurmurdar1
    @akacurmurdar1 Před 3 lety +10

    Don't mind me I'm just commenting for the algorithm.

  • @Commander_Koyke
    @Commander_Koyke Před 3 lety

    I love this guys video keep up the good work

  • @heatherparisi7078
    @heatherparisi7078 Před 3 lety

    Excellent service history of this incredible class of early Fast Battleships. The model of the QE is indeed a stunning example of precision art and I salute the modeler who made it. Very good job indeed.

  • @shathriel
    @shathriel Před 3 lety +4

    My favourite class of battleship, to me, they are the best all round but then you have the Warspite, the Rocky Balboa of the battleship world, just have this vision of the ship, smoke drifting from damage, battle ensigns fluttering and a tiny voice shouting Adrien XD

  • @DirkGently1972
    @DirkGently1972 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for this video. My grandad served on HMS Malaya, amongst other ships, at the start of WWII. It’s great to have this additional information about one of the classes of ships he served on and helps to remember their contribution to our modern freedoms today.

    • @CQE1803
      @CQE1803 Před 3 lety

      Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't HMS Malaya the one that made the KMS Scharnhorst run away, or atleast I think it was the Scharnhorst

  • @peteralflat281
    @peteralflat281 Před rokem

    great video thanks

  • @kennethdeanmiller7324
    @kennethdeanmiller7324 Před rokem +2

    You never cease to not just impress me with the stuff you air on your channel, but you also tickle me with your humor as well. And this model is very realistic looking. I'm curious as to the size of the model???

  • @jamesgoacher1606
    @jamesgoacher1606 Před 3 lety +5

    I have a, probably unatural, love of Warspite since I glued together a plastic Airfix model of her in my fromative years.
    I am extremely jealous of your Queen Elizabeth Model, I have seen the most beautiful models of such ships during my visits to museums and I think this Class of Warship ranks as the best of its time.
    Within the last few years I visited the Science Museum in London, for no particular reason and went very quickly to the top floor where I had previously seen, amounst other computing historical things things some lovely models of ships and boats but they were not there. I questioned a, whatever they are called, people who are supposed to know about this and was informed that they would be in storage somewhere.
    I also recall many years ago being in the Navy type Museum, the ones with the guns outside, with my two small sons inching around a wonderfull display of Warships and behind us were and obviously German group admiring a model of Bismark whan my eldest son pointed to a model of Nelson or Rodney I cannot remember and asked about it and I replied, perhaps a little louder than necessary " That is the ??, it sunk that" pointing to Bismark. Silly I know.

  • @kaijudirector5336
    @kaijudirector5336 Před 3 lety +8

    Warspite: *spits at the Germans* Ya got anymore? Bite my shiny metal fantail and HAIL BRITTANIA!

  • @carlbusque1856
    @carlbusque1856 Před 2 lety

    Great model. Great episode. Thanks

  • @slartybartfarst55
    @slartybartfarst55 Před 3 lety

    Great Video & excellent Model!

  • @augustosolari7721
    @augustosolari7721 Před 3 lety +4

    I love how Drach says pom poms.

  • @commitselfdeletus9070
    @commitselfdeletus9070 Před 3 lety +21

    Last time I was this fast (first) it was when I smelled my pizza burning

    • @gerokron3412
      @gerokron3412 Před 3 lety +3

      You safrificed a pizza to Neptune. Hail to the waves!

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 Před 3 lety +3

      You let your pizza burn! Just as we were starting to like you as well.😄

  • @chriscorker5634
    @chriscorker5634 Před 2 lety

    Great model , and great post ;)

  • @therealboomhower9209
    @therealboomhower9209 Před 3 lety

    Might not be exactly for this video but I just saw midway and thanks to you it made it so much more enjoyable