Determined to beat the hardest SNES game ever | Super Ghouls n' Ghosts
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2022
- Can we do it? With the help of save states... maybe.
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#ep1 #DaggerTime #SuperGhoulsNGhosts - Hry
I’m so ready for ghoul grumps. Literally shidding and farding
Same besty
I too, be shidding and farding.
Fingers crossed they finally play Until Dawn, Fatal Frame 2, Inscryption, Poppy Playtime, or Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion. ANY of those would be an excellent choice.
@@Kamina.D.Fierce I need spookies house of jump scares 2 😭😭
Shid farding
The funniest part about this is just how much easier it looks with save states in the beginning, BEFORE IMMEDIATELY becoming hard as balls again.
This game is actually not that bad difficulty wise, unlike the NES game. It does have the issue of needing to replay the game (NG+) and keep a certain (sucky) sub-item for a lot of the areas s that you can beat the final boss with it which will make those areas of the game a lot harder.
@@Nicholas_Steel Yeah, I "beat the game" a few times, meaning I beat level 7 and quit soon after the "replay the whole game and get the worst weapon while doing so" part.
@@Nicholas_Steel yeah super is probably the easiest version, the NES and og are harder
I remember the day Arin accidentally revealed that he was using an emulator and he seemed so humiliated and worried about how people would react.
Arin today: "WE'RE PLAYIN SUPER GHOULS'N AND WE'RE CHEATING WITH AN EMULATOR COME ALONG FOR ADVENTURE!"
Years ago, wasn't it?
He hit a button that returned him to the huge list of playable ROMs and then had a brain fart
Honestly, that's how most people play old games these days.
@@anonymousx1101 Not everybody uses emulators and save states. Sometimes it's fun to play the game as intended, y'know?
@@MoeChicken That's why they said "most people" and not "all people."
"I'M NOT USING AN EMULATOR!! I'M NOT AT ALL!!"
My wife talks about playing this game as a kid the same way my grandpa used to talk about Vietnam.
lol😂
Post-Traumatic SNES Disorder
@@mediocreandworse59 whack a patent on that!
@@mediocreandworse59 If you just came up with that, that is AMAZING
SGnG changes a person....
Game Grumps in 3 seconds:
*Arin:* “The mimick’s filled with come.”
*Dan:* “Arin. I need you to focus.” 😂
Mimic preg
What'd you expect it's Girls and Ghosts lol
I'm scared because I scrolled down to the comments, this was the first one, and as I finished reading it, the quote happened. You somehow foresaw my decision to scroll and called out the exact timestamp. What the fuck
@@robb862 If you scroll down during a video youtube prioritizes comments made by people who were around the same point in the video when they wrote them. I hate it XD
@@xm2785 I'm not sure thats the case for everyone, because I just got an offer to try it out as NEW! BETA! thing
Those 3 clarinet notes at 28:10-onward will haunt me for the rest of the week.
lol it was all perfectly in sync, drove me crazy too
Truly a classic from the best age of gaming - Arin is going to get so Grumpy that he might shart himself in rage again
Well, using save states is going to immensely reduce the frustration involved in playing this game, so he probably won't get that angry.
Nope.
I'm so happy they are doing this game together. As soon as I saw the title, I knew what game they were talking about
They have played it 8 years ago! So if you want more then check it out!
I hope Arin has a rematch with Battle Kid using an emulator for some long-belated closure
I swear, Dan turns like Challenger rank in any 2D 16-but game.
Man, I was ready for Arin screaming in total frustration. Not Dan silently fuming about the fact that he was forced to learn about M-Preg.
ngl, one of the most recognizable SNES games and I didn't even know what that first boss would look like.
Haha I was thinking the same thing. Like, I dont think I've ever seen this guy!
28:12 That repeating sound from reversing is what you hear in your own special hell.
That was my favorite part, hands down
It had me in stitches, I couldn't breathe lol
Layer it with the froggy music and you got hell in a can
A return to Arin's nightmare.
Let's see if the two of them together can do better than Arin alone.
And if actively using save states and having Dan close by will be enough in order for Arin to not go Shakespearian. I'm pretty sure it will be enough
I love Arins emote ahaha
I think if Arin put the time in, he could beat it legit without save states.
Many more deaths to come 🤣
@@TheMCzorro to 6
8:03 The comedic timing on this was incredible.
I do like how Dan says look at you lol
I can't wait for Arin's screams of agony to fill the afternoon
Best way to spice up a work day.
Well, using save states is going to immensely reduce the frustration involved in playing this game, so he probably won't scream that much.
@@resileaf9501 All the power to him.
It's that or we're never seeing the end of this game.
"You just have to know"
Yes, Dan, you just described this whole game. When I beat it I basically had to memorize every move I made. Exactly where to stand and when. Exactly how many times to attack. it's basically the SHMUP of platformers. A specific kind of difficulty for a specific kind of player.
Never underestimate the power of Save States to turn a 7 hour game into a 30 minute one.
“Ep1” in the tags tells me it’s gonna be a liiiiittle bit longer than a 30 min one 😉 I’m stoked!
7 hours ? Make that 30 years ....
You should check that Arin solo episode
The game is still a little hard even with save states.
The last level alone took me 7 hours.....
Whenever Dan feels like they've played a game together on Grumps, he should really lean into it more because they've for sure played this before together on Grumps.
They played it twice on the show. Once together, once just Arin.
Really feeling the autumn spirit lately, and this episode feels like an early Ghoul Grumps!
This has such a 2013 grumps feel to it. Both gameplay and commentary. It's nice
They said they didn't play it on the show but I swear I feel I watched this around then
@@PinkishHaze i started the episode and thought that i've 100% seen this game before, as it felt insanely familiar! So i looked into it and they did play it back in 2014 :)
@@ivegotmunchies1010 Yep, it was hilarious because Arin didn't know about the thing where you have to replay from the start to finish it.
I love that Arin says they are going to finish this on the next episode. I guess he doesn't know that you have to literally finish this game twice in a row to get the true ending.
Which would actually be the second time he was blindsided by that. Amazing.
@@shadenox8164 If ever there was a time for the "If I had a nickel..." meme, it would be now.
3:57 They did though.
genius for getting double money out of one Arcade game.
The bit starting at 28:20 truly killed me. The fucking music loop in the background combined with Arin's WOOPS and Dan's "you didn't." Lmao
It's always a wonderful thing when someone gives high praise to something lesser known that is your absolute favorite. Gargoyle's Quest/Demon's Crest is such a great series. Though he forgot one, Gargoyle's Quest 2 on the NES is great too.
Who's gonna tell them they DID actually playe this on the show already?
Lol that was soooo 8 years ago, Arin never remembers. If only there were some way they could simply type the name in some sort of search bar with the word “grumps” and figure out if they had. 🤷♀️😂 Dan remembered 🙂
@@elsiebartlett6808 I’m surprised he remembered he played it 2 years ago!
Everyone, for the entire comment section because they're not allowed to forget a single instant of their lives.
Dan usually remembers. He just defaults to Arin if Arin sounds sure. For a former stoner, Dan’s memory now is pretty dang good
I was wondering if I had an imagined memory of Dan saying "Move! I have to die!" when that beginning running sequence came up.
Omg, I remember this game! This was literally one of the hardest games I've ever tried to beat, and I only got like 7/8ths of the way through!
I love how Dan immediately understands and uses Save states correctly, by constantly updating the state at most points of rest versus Arin who just keeps going and has to repeat such longer segments
The only way to know you're using save states "correctly" is if you can beat the game legitimately right after beating it with save states. That's a good litmus test. If you save state every 0.5 seconds of gameplay, you learn pretty much nothing about the game.
@@atmatey nah
@@atmatey Correction: If you save state every 0.5 seconds and manage to beat the game... you learn the games story.
@@Nicholas_Steel Pretty much.
@@atmatey I dont think save states are used much for improving performance. I've only seen them used to suspend and return to gameplay if unable to save, or to reattempt a section thats too difficult or time consuming to attempt legitimately again and again. It'd be cool to actually break it down and see if their use of save states reduces as they play though, but they're both kind bad at this one lol
I love that they played this together 8 years ago and just both blocked the memory😂
Probably just forgot. They've played a ridiculous number of games in those 8 years
That’s what I was thinking! I remember arin raging to this game before
Well you have to forgive them, by their new ridiculous episode names and thumbnails you can't really tell what they are even playing anymore, so how should they remember? Its not like they can look it up in a few seconds.
And I think Dan was pretty sure about his former experience with this game on the show, but he is so agreeable with his boss, that he just took Almonds word for fact.
Dan didn't block the memory, he literally says he feels like he remembers playing it on Grumps before
Cant wait for them to grind through this entire game, beat the final boss only to rage when they discover theyre halfway through the game.
Arin's crazy. The first thing I thought when I saw that boss was kitty cat.
I love Arin’s “dude…” when Dan messes up. Just like when Dan says “Arin…” 😂
It's funny how Danny kinda predicted what happens when reach the final boss for the first time
I've never seen this game before and the character has " cast as Don Quixote in a community theatre production of Man of La Mancha" kind of energy.
this is horrifically accurate
Holy shit! I was kinda surprised when you said you'd be using save states, but I'm actually really glad you are. It makes the game less frustrating but also MORE frustrating!
I LOVE that they're both playing! Gives me classic grump vibes.
I love how people scream at Dan for not knowing Mpreg like it's some super common concept
It's like they think that because he's a furry, he has to be into EVERY fetish.
@@bionicdragon5 I think it's weirdos trying to claim their niche fetish isn't niche "NOO IT'S MAINSTREAM WHY DON'T YOU KNOW ABOUT TYING YOUR COLON INTO A BALOON ANIMAL YOU MORON"
who's screaming?
I'm reminded of Dan in Shovel Knight going
"HELLOOOOOO"
When arin reloads after dying haha.
I’ve realized that it doesn’t matter what they’re doing as long as Arin is screaming and Dan is laughing at it I’ll enjoy it
I've heard that this is the "video game boi, the one who wins" so I'm sure he won't have a problem completing this 100%!
21:25 Arin saying "A Kitten?" Made my day
Dan; you sure we haven't played this on grumps? I mean I guess not
Me; *checks search bar and confirms they did indeed play Super Ghouls and Ghosts 8 years ago*
9:26 the synchronized "whee" 😂❤️
I have this on the SNES, it is definitely super difficult. I couldn't get further than the ghost ship back in the day when i was a kid. It took me until I was in my late 20s to beat it.
Its reverse for me. I beat it multiple times when i was a kid. Can’t do it no more)
Haha good luck guys… beating the original Ghosts and Goblins on the NES twice through to get the “good” ending was one of my life’s proudest accomplishments, and this one is harder. 😂
You think this is the harder of the two? I commend you accomplishment, then! I've gotten to the end of this one and made it a grand total of TWO levels into the NES original. That timer is CRUEL in that game!
My bro beat SNES version once, but only took him two days. I feel like getting occasional weapon upgrades would make this game way easier?
@@MoeChicken I don’t remember the SNES one too well, but the NES one technically gives you as many tries as you want… eventually you learn every hidden armor and can take those demons out in your sleep lol
@@steelfoam2518 I might have to try it again! I just remember thinking it was crazy difficult.
They are using save states, it’s not even remotely the same thing.
Oh man, a friend of mine and I challenged this one every now and then for eight years. I came within a hair's breadth of beating it (in the second run against the final boss required to get the ending,) when my dad walked in and tripped over the controller, resetting the game.
My friend beat it in college on emulator using save states, but I never did. It just wasn't the same that way.
14:30 look at "Mobility in Medieval Plate Armor", you can move pretty well in armor, but you need to train for that shit.
man with all the save state restarts, I just wanna say. "Dormammu! I 've come to bargain."
espeacially when dan is fighting the ocean boss.
"Barnacle Cat, I've come to propose an offer."
"If you tried to run in full plate like that..."
You can run fine in full plate. Properly fitted full plate has great mobility. There is even a dude that runs military obstacle courses in the stuff.
The Videogame Boy is confidently wrong once again
I believe the misconception from most people comes from the full plate jousting armor that was too heavy and restricted movement to ludicrous levels, as opposed to the foot soldiers plate mail which was made to move around in. I only learned they were two different armors recently.
@@whitegamingbunny3221 I think it's more likely people have seen one too many movies or games and just assume that "big armor = slow movement"
@@whitegamingbunny3221 Yeah, heavy cavalry armor. I had a friend of a friend who was big into jousting. Was on some reality TV show about a few years back. That stuff is tough AF though.
all I can hear in my head now is that clip from the Shovel Knight LP where Dan says, "Super ghouls and ghosts and goblins and Greg, and Greg's like 'Hi!'"
no idea why that's in my head now, but it won't leave me be
Oh man this is my childhood! I got to the final stage like 15 years ago, still haven't fully beaten it. Save states are the way, finish this!
One of my favorite SNES games, once you get over the hurdle of having to basically play it twice, it's not t h a t bad.
yeah its difficulty is overstated a bit. really fun once you start learning the levels.
lol, Arin forgot they did indeed try playing this together once 😂
Twice actually that’s the funny party 😅
@@vergenta8913 Wait, twice? I remember the three episode series they did when Dan first joined, but when did they play again? I wanna watch that!
@@MoeChicken they did it like 2 years ago it’s they thumbnail has the new heads and everything but I’m pretty sure it’s a solo Arin episode
@@vergenta8913 Ohhh, yeah, I remember that. Okay. I thought you meant they did another run with both of them. Thanks for the info, though!
@@vergenta8913 Arin remembers the solo episodes, he mentions them in this one. He just forgot about the actual episodes he did with Dan a long, long time ago.
Which I don't blame him for, I had forgotten too.
17:40 had me shooting coffee everywhere, absolutely love dans random noises
I am so hyped the boys are playing one of my fav games and really going for the ending! Also more hyped that Arin acknowledges Gargoyles Quest and Demons Crest as being two awesome games that they should absolutely play on the show.
This game has the absolute best running animation in the history of the human race.
U right
Especially the maiden sprite.
Arin: "You can NOT run like that"
You sure can, if the armor is properly fitted. I used to run and fight all weekend in 60 lbs of custom-fitted steel armor, and it honestly wasn't hard at all.
I love the energy of Arin explaining the controls to Dan. It's like two dudes hanging out at one of their houses and playing video games
Arin, the Red Arremer had three games, not two: Gargoyle's Quest on GB, Gargoyle's Quest II on NES, and Demon's Crest on SNES! I love them.
Ghouls’ N Ghosts? Time for Arin to Shid, Fard, and Shard.
This game's music is burned into my memory.
*Dan* "Have we ever played this before?"
*Arin* "nope, never"
Yes, you guys have. 8 years ago.
*Arin* "I've never gottn this far in my solo playthrough"
Yes...Arin, you did. When you played it solo, you *beat it*. It's on the list.
30:04
Arin: well the background isn't changing!
Dan: That's true
Background: Clearly changing
Me: I really hope Arin uses the crossbow, it’s the only weapon worth using.
Arin: I have found that the best weapon is the dagger
Me: This playthrough is doomed.
Bow, knife and lance are all good weapons everything else is horrible I'd rather have the knife or bow over the lance though
@@7dogguy Bow is an easy number one spot, especially if you keep the gold armour and keep charging. Than knife and than lance.
Didn't they already play this together?
All chest spawns in this game are predetermined and activated by standing or jumping in the right places, all chest loot is obtained in a specific order (weapon, green armor, gold armor, wizard, weapon, shield(?), fairy (iirc))Using this info, you can build up to the gold armor really quickly. In fact, all enemies and projectile spawns are determined by player location, it’s the same kind of randomization that Super Mario Maker uses iirc.
The nostalgia from this game is bringing so many emotions back to me. I'm so happy this is being played right now.💜
More retro games please! Maybe do some sega ones?
I'm all for this one fellas, brilliant game and enjoyable to watch.
Super Girls and ghosts would be a great Halloween themed Beat-em-up but with Sailor Moon-esque magical girls
Key to the double jump is when to use it. Like the trouble on the pillars on the lava board, just hit the jump button again right away
Wow, forgot how much a beast Dan is at retro games. Did it kill anyone else at the end when Arin save-stated after just standing in the level for a good chunk of his time limit? 😂
So stoked for this. I only ever beat it the first time through (without the special amulet power up or whatever). Didn’t have the heart to go all the way through it a second time with the item. And that was *with* save states! In fact, first time on the final boss I accidentally save stated myself into running out of time and ended up needing to replay the whole level and focus on precision/speed. Can’t wait to see all these, fond memories of Arin solo and even that time they played it together that they sort of forgot 🥰
I did get through the three Gargoyle’s Quest games (there’s one on NES Arin forgot) which I found significantly easier and were also fantastic, like he said.
The toilet.
"Why do I even open chests anymore? I have the best weapon"
The crossbow and shield would like a word.
I love that Dan is committed to the meow meow
"Like how that harmlessly travels around the enemy?" I'm rolling
I love this game! Even as an adult I've never beaten it though 😂
Aww hell yeah! This was a freaking blast, well, at least getting to the second level was...
Arin's quick, not quick playthrough of it was awesome to see, too. Glad it's back!
Excited for Ghoul Grumps this year, and happy to finally get to the holidays!
So proud of Danny and Arin for "not" losing the armor one time during this play through so far!
I honestly don't mind the save stating: I'd rather them have fun beating a game then getting stuck on level 1 in agony. If you beat it, you beat it, it's a game from the early 90s, who cares?
Looking at you, Mike Matei.
Got the notification, honestly thought they were revisiting Battle Kid, but this works too
It’s okay Dan, I also learned about Mpreg against my will. And I see the kitty.
One of my favorite things ever is when arin is telling dan how good he is at a game and then instantly messes up and does the long “whoooops” 😂
Jory feels like the light side Ross, where they only ever say nice things about him
Totally explains the Joint Justice game.
They should really play a bunch of nonsense games for, like, 5-15 min a piece and compile them into one episode that meets their length requirements
I love how once Dan passes the controller back to Arin, he turns into a beautiful maiden again.
This was played twice before on the channel. Love that goldish memory.
Please put the game in the title.
"Congrats to everyone Who is early and who found this comment 🐼.
Panda
I like the idea that the end of Super Ghouls and Ghost is a scene right out of the 1981 horror classic Possession.
And now everyone who's seen Possession has flashed back to that scene,
So I got curious and looked it up, and it turns out they DID play SG&G _together_ on the show before. I even found a playlist for it.
I knew they had to have tried this before (without save states) because I distinctly remember Dan making a joke about Arthur running past the crowd of people at the beginning and saying _"Excuse me! I have to die!"._
1:35
GET THE KNIFE
GET THE KNIFE
GET THE KINFE
I REALLY hope they play demon's crest some time in the future. So glad Arin loves it and it would make for a perfect Ghoul Grumps game, and it would be awesome to show Dan that game. So much amazing, god tier art and music in that game, it's so fucking rad
Nothing is more on brand for Game grumps than Dan saying "have we played this before" and Aring saying "no" only for them to have played it in 2019 and 2014
14:30 actually, fitted plate armor with someone who trained their whole life to wear it from squier to knight, they're quite mobile and can actually run, jump and roll. There's videos on youtube of some guy running at top speed in a full plate setup.
"We're gonna beat this game! There's no way in hell-"
Poseidon: heard you were talking shit!
Arin using save states reminds me of people who play FPS games and never feel like reloading after firing because they think they’ll always have enough shots for the next enemy.
I thought someone like him would be the obsessive type to save state every few seconds or to use the other example, the type that reloads after every shot.
It's weird how little Arin remembers of his own playthrough of the game. He beat the game and got the good ending even! (With save states.)
Also, there are THREE Firebrand games. Gargoyle's Quest 2 for the NES also was awesome.
I had this as a kid. The terrain deformation was hella awesome. I really enjoyed all the secret chests, such as the one right in the VERY BEGINNING. I also remember at first being totally unable to get past the first rock column because I didn't know you could double jump.
I only every made it to just past the spiraling tower section.
Watching an LP later, finding out that the gimmick is "you have to replay the whole thing again" REALLY SUCKS. At least they could have made you play it backwards, or the world changes the second time through.
I'm so happy they're playing Ghouls and Ghosts! I'm in the mood for an old school game like this and a challenge. Also nice aesthetics
Hahahahaahahah that lava part looping the music killed me
I love that they're back to playing old Nintendo games. Feels like early-era Game Grumps
I know some tricks you should know:
The chest are not random, usually certain conditions have to be meet for them to appear; if you want to see where they are hidden without the conditions, you have to use the charged attack of the bow
When you start, the first chest is a weapon, the second is a lvl 2 armor, and the third is a lvl 3 armor. If you are greedy enough to try and get the 4th one, a mage appears and transforms you