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    Nona Gaprindashvili Sues Netflix for comments in The Queens Gambit.
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  • @privonfn7833
    @privonfn7833 Před 2 lety +2587

    Already watched agadmator's video about this, way better. Not gonna bother watching this

  • @shaashwatsingh3207
    @shaashwatsingh3207 Před 2 lety +2575

    Vishy is so talented that he played Nona before he was even born. Legend for a reason

    • @shashwatsharma2596
      @shashwatsharma2596 Před 2 lety +36

      Hey, we got the same name

    • @callen34659
      @callen34659 Před 2 lety +72

      @@shashwatsharma2596 You got dyslexia? His name is ShAAshwat whereas yours is Shashwat.
      Edit: Its a joke yall.

    • @NankerPhelge65
      @NankerPhelge65 Před 2 lety +7

      Brown m&m clause

    • @shashwatsharma2596
      @shashwatsharma2596 Před 2 lety +52

      @@callen34659 you're clearly not a Hindi speaking person, they're both pronounced same and written same in hindi, English translation can be interpreted differently, therefore the different spelling. You sir, are a moron.

    • @mosessinanta8005
      @mosessinanta8005 Před 2 lety +32

      Dude comments about how talented Vishy are and the comments are like 'hey we got matching names' lmao

  • @nicolaspacettiterra4043
    @nicolaspacettiterra4043 Před 2 lety +2862

    What I don't understand is why Netflix decided to put Nona's name in the show, while every other character is fictional. I mean, how hard could it be to invent a different female chess player like they invented all the male ones?

    • @murdymacnicol674
      @murdymacnicol674 Před 2 lety +59

      This is vvv true

    • @utubinator
      @utubinator Před 2 lety +486

      They do mention Morphy and Cabablanca as well, comparisons to actual chess history can be cool for those who know about it. Really what i don't get is why they needed the "she never played men" line so much. It would have been the exact same thing without it. Its inclusion is baffling to me.

    • @brettpoole7888
      @brettpoole7888 Před 2 lety +46

      Yeah but they listed alot of players from the past to somewhat just name drop and make the show feel grounded in chess culture but they never claimed that was real as this whole story is fiction they also mentioned stuff about Morphy, Bronstein, Alekhine, etc that may not have been accurate but was only used to serve the plot.

    • @sanjusabu5488
      @sanjusabu5488 Před 2 lety +49

      @@brettpoole7888 but they have refrained from mentioning current players right?
      Like Fischer,Kasparov,Tal..

    • @basesixty6739
      @basesixty6739 Před 2 lety +11

      Ikr they didn’t invent any female chess players for this show.

  • @ishmitsingh1471
    @ishmitsingh1471 Před 2 lety +967

    Been 18 years and still can't play chess properly while Vishwanathan Anand competing in tournaments before he was even born

  • @josephalonsabe7633
    @josephalonsabe7633 Před 2 lety +464

    Levy: don’t sue me Netflix
    Also levy: screw the corporations

    • @cftpafan
      @cftpafan Před 2 lety +18

      ? Those statements aren’t in any way contradictory

    • @josephalonsabe7633
      @josephalonsabe7633 Před 2 lety +11

      I mean he says don’t sue me referring to Netflix and then basically is saying to Nona yeah fuck em sue em 😂😂. Not like they would actually sue him but yea

    • @MrJackOfAllTraits
      @MrJackOfAllTraits Před 2 lety +3

      @@josephalonsabe7633 yeah screw the corporations because levy isn't a corporation. so screw the corporations and also netflix (a corporation that we are screwing) don't sue levy.

    • @harisnaufal3259
      @harisnaufal3259 Před 2 lety +6

      Levy is communist confirmed????

    • @harisnaufal3259
      @harisnaufal3259 Před 2 lety

      jk guys jk......

  • @Thaplayer1209
    @Thaplayer1209 Před 2 lety +77

    Fun fact: All women that has gotten the grandmaster title (not woman grandmaster) are still alive.

    • @aetbhieiils
      @aetbhieiils Před 2 lety +4

      That is indeed a fun fact

    • @harrisons62
      @harrisons62 Před 2 lety +4

      WGM is a joke.

    • @gingerbreadmars
      @gingerbreadmars Před 2 lety

      Noob here. Is there a difference between the WGM title and the Grandmaster title?

    • @harrisons62
      @harrisons62 Před 2 lety +4

      @@gingerbreadmars Pretty sure it's 200 elo less for the WGM. Honestly don't understand how anyone can defend it, would be like giving a high distinction to a 70% instead of a 90% just because of their sex.

    • @uselessdegenerate7565
      @uselessdegenerate7565 Před 2 lety +12

      @@harrisons62 yea, if anything its insulting to women.

  • @Campaign2024
    @Campaign2024 Před 2 lety +550

    I asked what the hell I'm even doing in the mirror. And ended up learning that I'm watching you.

  • @mikemiller5577
    @mikemiller5577 Před 2 lety +145

    I love how this turned into a video dedicated to solidify her greatness with examples. Great use of a giant platform, thank you Levi!

    • @6ixfoot234
      @6ixfoot234 Před 2 lety

      Are you sarcastic or innatentive?

    • @kaiserquasar3178
      @kaiserquasar3178 Před rokem +1

      the letter Y to 90% of Gothamchess' audience:
      *Am I a joke to you?*

  • @NotThatMaryElizabeth
    @NotThatMaryElizabeth Před 2 lety +161

    It's disheartening to see so many people interpreting this lawsuit as a scheme for her to get some quick money. Had they paid more attention to the articles, they would see that prior to filing the lawsuit, Nona's legal team had contacted Netflix asking them to remove/alter the line or, at the very least, issue an apology; those requests were dismissed by the company, stating they did nothing wrong and would take no action to try and correct it; only after that was the lawsuit filed, asking for enough money for the word to be spread around.
    I, personally, see this lawsuit as a last resort for Ms. Gaprindashvili to stand up for her legacy that "The Queen's Gambit" diminished in front of 62 million households just so it could make a fictional character seem more accomplished.

    • @christianfaux736
      @christianfaux736 Před 2 lety +10

      Diminished HOW? By making her name MORE common? By making her MORE famous? Yeah, fuckin' woe is her.

    • @semnejlepsi8983
      @semnejlepsi8983 Před 2 lety +35

      @@christianfaux736 i mean the tone, the everything, the fact that shes "never faced men" when she faced 60 of them at the time when it happened... again as the whole queens gambit was supposed to highlight, it wasnt and still isnt easy for women in the chess world, this is just straight up minimizing her achievments.

    • @NotThatMaryElizabeth
      @NotThatMaryElizabeth Před 2 lety +17

      ​@@christianfaux736 I feel like you're focusing too much on external factors such as money/fame, all the while neglecting the fact that, generally, chess players, much like athletes, tend to be highly intrinsically motivated. A personal sense of achievement, honor, and pride are all a big part of what makes a true pioneer in any sport; intrinsic motivation is also what keeps the 80-year-old woman competing in (and winning) senior world championships. You'd have to take all this into consideration when trying to understand how such misrepresentation could be insulting to someone who, to this day, lives and breathes chess. I recommend you read these articles to gain some insight into her life and achievements: www.calvertjournal.com/features/show/12351/real-life-queens-gambit-nona-gaprindashvili-georgian-women-chess-beth-harmon-netflix en.chessbase.com/post/nona-gaprindashvili-interview-bled-2018

    • @Tom_Het
      @Tom_Het Před 2 lety +3

      @@christianfaux736 I solved the homelessness crisis. We can fit them all in your head. Actually, looks like there's enough room for all of us.
      If you slander someone, there is no "iT's ok bEcauSe a bUncH oF pEoPle hEaRd yOuR NaMe" defense, sorry.

    • @Xelluse
      @Xelluse Před rokem +3

      Especially when in book it was based on, Nona was mentioned properly and respectfully.

  • @IndianEli77
    @IndianEli77 Před 2 lety +62

    Beautiful pivot to Nona’s career.
    I appreciate the story telling and history. Great job, great content.

  • @EtoileLion
    @EtoileLion Před 2 lety +467

    I'm still of the opinion that Netflix will settle. Not for millions, a few thousand probably.
    I'm also of the opinion that 'winning' wasnt the point of the lawsuit. I feel like the point of the lawsuit was just to put out there her stance, and get it noticed. If Gaprindashvili's PR people put out a statement, it probably gets no attention outside of Georgia. Make it a lawsuit for millions of dollars... suddenly it's got eyeballs. Eyeballs that are reading it, and acknowledging the truth of Gaprindashvili's history.
    Did it work? GothamChess made a video about it.... you decide.

    • @eyeofsauron628
      @eyeofsauron628 Před 2 lety +35

      Yeah I agree with you on that one.
      Edit: and also, I think the lawsuit is valid and I’m glad it’s getting attention. Netflix shouldn’t be able to belittle someone like that.

    • @nono-fq1tl
      @nono-fq1tl Před 2 lety +9

      Is it viable tho? Just wondering since queens gambit is fiction wouldn’t everything stated still fall under that umbrella

    • @victorfinberg8595
      @victorfinberg8595 Před 2 lety

      Good points.

    • @Papa5murf1
      @Papa5murf1 Před 2 lety +22

      @@nono-fq1tl defamation of character - Queen's gambit may be fiction, but in that fictional story you are belittling a REAL LIVE person, so no that's not right.

    • @eyeofsauron628
      @eyeofsauron628 Před 2 lety +6

      @@nono-fq1tl it is fiction except that Nona is an actual GM, and the line claimed her only significance was that she is a female, it said nothing of all her accomplishments.

  • @heylookifoundadollar
    @heylookifoundadollar Před 2 lety +224

    You should do a video on the Alekhine defense.

    • @nikolaslavov3498
      @nikolaslavov3498 Před 2 lety +6

      I was literally thinking today that if I ever got to play black vs Levy. In all the videos I saw of his he literally never mentions it, so I would prep the fuck out of it and hope he plays 1.e4

    • @tahmeedchowdhury0007
      @tahmeedchowdhury0007 Před 2 lety +5

      It's not easy to learn for beginners

    • @jojosh6778
      @jojosh6778 Před 2 lety +16

      @@nikolaslavov3498 It's not like he doesn't know about it, lol. He mentions it in the Openings Tier List videos Hikaru made with him, they're not particularly fond of it.

    • @anblueboot5364
      @anblueboot5364 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nikolaslavov3498 pluul

    • @milannesic5718
      @milannesic5718 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nikolaslavov3498 Dude, did you already forgot his video called "The legendary KING WALK"? Go and re-watch the beginning please

  • @algiovannelli1271
    @algiovannelli1271 Před 2 lety +258

    We should all sue Levy for stealing our hearts with his content

    • @aky1741
      @aky1741 Před 2 lety +5

      That’s stupid because it’s metaphorical, he didn’t literally steal our hearts, that would be silly

    • @Sein-pe9wl
      @Sein-pe9wl Před 2 lety +4

      @@aky1741 r/woooosh

    • @iwanttobeabillionaire1703
      @iwanttobeabillionaire1703 Před 2 lety

      EZ 5 mil
      PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video... Also a patreon

    • @kingghidorah5271
      @kingghidorah5271 Před 2 lety

      @@aky1741 So what is it then? Give us brain?

    • @jaydentan1666
      @jaydentan1666 Před 2 lety

      MY FUCKIN' HEART GIVE IT BACK AAAAAAARRRRGGHHHHHH!

  • @sharanadvaith7998
    @sharanadvaith7998 Před 2 lety +303

    Levy has already created thumbnail for his "grand Prix" attack opening video months ago and hasn't yet recorded the video .

    • @ivystar2823
      @ivystar2823 Před 2 lety +3

      ok

    • @adham593
      @adham593 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree

    • @EGH9701
      @EGH9701 Před 2 lety

      He said this in a previous video but there has been the Gm tournament. So that takes priority.

    • @korosensei4873
      @korosensei4873 Před 2 lety

      Yea he did
      He said he was gonna hold a flag like this (as he shows how:) )

  • @DrTFW1
    @DrTFW1 Před 2 lety +64

    I really love how this video was put together. Informative, respectful and entertaining. Good job Levy.

  • @usuck5033
    @usuck5033 Před 2 lety +277

    Im from georgia and we really adore nona ... she inspired me to play chess ... in the book it's all correct but netflix did that on purpose to make fictional character look more superior, when there was a real OG s like nona

    • @DoubleAAce
      @DoubleAAce Před 2 lety +2

      It shouldnt have

    • @redr0sid210
      @redr0sid210 Před 2 lety +10

      Can’t be an OG when she’s suing like a little bitch.

    • @zaraorte8224
      @zaraorte8224 Před 2 lety +5

      @@redr0sid210 she is 80 yrs old dumbass.she thinks they wanted to lie .she doesnt understand the dynamics of the modern world .U dont be a bitch

    • @roflol100
      @roflol100 Před 2 lety +51

      @@zaraorte8224 what dynamics, is blatant lying dynamic of the modern world? Really don see reason for netflix to lie about her carrier

    • @redr0sid210
      @redr0sid210 Před 2 lety

      @@roflol100 i see many reasons for you to go back to school

  • @johnstevenson9956
    @johnstevenson9956 Před 2 lety +31

    Looking forward to your analysis of the Gaprindashvili/Anand prenatal game. (I'm assuming Anand lost, although I don't know this for a fact.) Judit Polgar, whose father used to take her around to play chess with older men, said that they always had some excuse when she won. They hadn't had enough sleep, were hungry, weren't feeling good, etc. Polgar said it was years before she ever played a healthy man.

  • @truthseeker6442
    @truthseeker6442 Před 2 lety +32

    Vishy Anand should sue Nona Gaprindashvilli for claiming that she played him before he was born.

  • @YourPhysicsSimulator
    @YourPhysicsSimulator Před 2 lety +417

    Imagine that you win 5 million dollars because you get mentioned in a single sentence in a series of Netflix.
    That's a brilliant move right there that not even infinite depth Stockfish can see

    • @iliaabesadze
      @iliaabesadze Před 2 lety +66

      she is chess living legend, deserved more repsect :)

    • @joshw9424
      @joshw9424 Před 2 lety +85

      They falsely represented her. I think she has a pretty legit case. IDK if she wins $5M but she probably settles for something still pretty hefty.

    • @thesnackbandit
      @thesnackbandit Před 2 lety +25

      It's honestly a pretty fair case.

    • @YourPhysicsSimulator
      @YourPhysicsSimulator Před 2 lety +39

      @@joshw9424 I mean, yeah they incorrectly represented her, but 5 million is crazy.
      I mean, it's obvious it's not about the image or respect, it's about the money.
      I defend her position, but I think it's a bit too much

    • @miniminion8866
      @miniminion8866 Před 2 lety +13

      @@joshw9424 Nah there's no chance that she wins. Otherwise it would set the precedent that if any false information about any person ever is ever produced by any show they can be sued

  • @iasaralidze4361
    @iasaralidze4361 Před 2 lety +262

    Hello from Georgia🇬🇪🌟
    Nona truly had huge influence on every women to play chess. Due to this fact, in Georgia the majority of chess players are women. We really adore Nona and we are proud of her achievements. However, this mistake insults her and misrepresents her chess career.
    Indeed Nona has every right to be offended. This is a rough mistake that should be taken care of.

    • @dinjoe828
      @dinjoe828 Před 2 lety +26

      @Beta Simp no wonder you are a beta simp.

    • @iwanttobeabillionaire1703
      @iwanttobeabillionaire1703 Před 2 lety

      EZ 5 mil
      PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video... Also a patreon

    • @LashaKamadadze
      @LashaKamadadze Před 2 lety +4

      სალამი იაა

    • @EagleDarkX
      @EagleDarkX Před 2 lety +5

      The 5 million is entirely excessive, and undermines her point IMO. Makes her look a lot more greedy than necessary.

    • @iasaralidze4361
      @iasaralidze4361 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LashaKamadadze ჰაი

  • @skewrin2837
    @skewrin2837 Před 2 lety +10

    Yo chess history is sick. I would love to see one on Alekhine and Lasker!

  • @TheFromage
    @TheFromage Před 2 lety +46

    I love levy’s reaction whenever a move is not normal. WOAHHH WHAT IS HAPPENING?!? Idk makes the video even more entertaining to watch! Also women like Nona and Aleksandra (who you also have a video on) empower me to keep playing chess! Thanks Levy for showing 2 of her games!

  • @ediththeai
    @ediththeai Před 2 lety +51

    16:37
    “When you have mate in one, find something better”

    • @rogg0224
      @rogg0224 Před 2 lety +2

      Hehe levy misses mate in 1

  • @likabochoridze8403
    @likabochoridze8403 Před rokem +9

    Thank you for recording this video. Georgia is proud of Nona Gaprindashvili.

  • @donxnik
    @donxnik Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks Levy for showing this two games I'm from Georgia myself and didn't know that her two specific games 🇬🇪

  • @callen34659
    @callen34659 Před 2 lety +4

    2:43
    Nona to the lawyers- You had one job

  • @KitMacAllister
    @KitMacAllister Před 2 lety

    Great video. Would love a to see a video on the Grand Prix attack!

  • @shawncarter7188
    @shawncarter7188 Před 2 lety +6

    When you're watching a different Gotham video and see a notification for a new Gotham video and click it immediately.... it's weird

  • @WestRoul
    @WestRoul Před 2 lety +10

    This is why I love watching your videos.
    You document a neutral ground.
    Love to see, and you explain everything perfectly

  • @SecretAgentRandyBeans111
    @SecretAgentRandyBeans111 Před 2 lety +7

    Wow, Jack Peters is a professor at my school! I never expected to see him in a Gotham video

  • @timothythompson7167
    @timothythompson7167 Před 2 lety +10

    I played Gaprindashvili in a simultaneous exhibition in 1977. But on that occasion she was in a pretty sour mood, and her personality did not impress me. She did win the game against me, but infuriated by her failure to win all of the games, she would not sign autographs or talk to anyone, until her husband prevailed upon her to at least sign autographs. She struck me as being overly sensitive about her reputation. The fact that nobody, not even Levy, remembers the line indicates to me (also not a lawyer) that she will have a hard time showing actual damage to her reputation in court.
    And as I recall, Jack Peters actually had 3 GM norms, but there was too much time between them, so FIDE declined to grant the GM title. He was a strong IM. At one point we looked so much alike that several people in tournaments mistook me for him. Of course, they never mistook him for me, since nobody really cared who I was :)

    • @natashazheltova1412
      @natashazheltova1412 Před 2 lety

      thank you for sharing your story, that's interesting

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Před 2 lety +8

      Levy did not say he didn't *remember* the line. What he said was that he didn't notice the line as being out of place. That actually SUPPORTS the claim that it damaged her reputation because it so thoroughly convinced people that her achievements never happened and didn't cause anyone to question the veracity.
      This is a pretty standard defamation case, to be honest, and I genuinely baffled by how many people are opposing this. Netflix literally straight up lied about her achievements.

  • @dhruv4413
    @dhruv4413 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Levy, Love your videos, earnt a lot from them

  • @englishmuffinpizzas
    @englishmuffinpizzas Před 2 lety +19

    I actually remember watching that line in the show and being curious if it was based on a real person and what her story was. Never did I assume that it straight up *was * a real person, mentioned by name and that it was belittling her real accomplishments. The scary thing is, in such a well researched show I just assumed that what they said was based in truth and women weren’t playing men in that time period.

  • @bedro_0
    @bedro_0 Před 2 lety +5

    16:09 Nona Gaprindashvili is familiar with the concept of danger levels

  • @beethoven6001
    @beethoven6001 Před 2 lety

    Great Idea man. Love this chess news mixed with some games. Much love from Germany

  • @CrustyDonutts
    @CrustyDonutts Před 2 lety +5

    Based video Levy. Too many channels already going in depth on the lawsuits merits and specifics and not celebrating Nona's (REAL LIFE) accomplishments.

  • @zemp9671
    @zemp9671 Před 2 lety +31

    Imagine joking on missing a mate in one (14:54) and then missing it yourself later (16:36)
    AND THEN SHOW IT AGAIN.
    I love you levy

    • @anishnehete
      @anishnehete Před 2 lety

      Yo ikr

    • @pianissimo7121
      @pianissimo7121 Před 2 lety +4

      he wanted to show the position, he wasn't interested in how he got there.

  • @fl45hbrg
    @fl45hbrg Před 2 lety +36

    As a guy who does some legal stuff (Law Student) and knows a thing or two about looking up information, that error is not going to be looked on favorably by the court. It will not get the suit dismissed by technicality. Mistakes happen but some judges are less forgiving than others.

    • @DeAguaMusic
      @DeAguaMusic Před 2 lety +8

      I do some ilegal stuff.

    • @hmind9836
      @hmind9836 Před 2 lety +2

      Well, that sucks :c
      There is still time for them to correct it? or now they have to work with what they got?

    • @votecthulhu9378
      @votecthulhu9378 Před 2 lety +6

      @@DeAguaMusic keep up the good work

    • @zoulzopan
      @zoulzopan Před 2 lety +3

      @@DeAguaMusic ah so you're a Lawyer too then

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Před 2 lety +1

      Lmao I hope she doesn't receive a penny. Freedom of speech and expression is being run to the ground nowadays. Though the case was filed in California so I shouldn't be that surprised, I guess

  • @nikagogibedashvili6476

    Thanks for covering this story, was very interested in your take on this subject.

  • @mggaming5398
    @mggaming5398 Před 2 lety +1

    Levy I was waiting for your video it's 3 am on my country

  • @stefanturkstra4615
    @stefanturkstra4615 Před 2 lety +6

    Love these videos of the queens gambit

  • @squireoflink
    @squireoflink Před 2 lety +80

    I love that you looked at this lawsuit and found opportunities to tell Nona's amazing story and analyze some games.
    also, i wonder if LegalEagle would do a collab talking about the legal ground for this lawsuit?

  • @paularized1
    @paularized1 Před rokem

    Fun fact about the Loan Pine tournament. It used to be called the Twin Pine until some guy ran over one of the trees on Nov 5, 1955.

  • @adilansari9987
    @adilansari9987 Před 2 lety +41

    You should play Nona in one of your grandmaster training games! Invite her to a game online and see if she would go for it.

    • @lukasgruber
      @lukasgruber Před 2 lety +9

      she is 80 bro

    • @eel9
      @eel9 Před 2 lety +1

      Levy could probably beat any 80 yr old gm with ease

    • @Ema-fm5zy
      @Ema-fm5zy Před 2 lety +1

      @@eel9 I doubt, some of them still have super high ratings.Kasparov's rating is still close to 2800 according to wikipedia.

    • @amanfern
      @amanfern Před 2 lety +3

      @@Ema-fm5zy Kasparov is no where close to being 80 years old, man is under 60

    • @eel9
      @eel9 Před 2 lety

      @@Ema-fm5zy Kasparov is nowhere near 80, and has only played 2 tournaments recently-remember his disaster in Zagreb?

  • @antonstrydom381
    @antonstrydom381 Před 2 lety +21

    8:51 Levy’s v-card defence too strong. Poor Lucy

  • @ameymittal8781
    @ameymittal8781 Před 2 lety +12

    Gothammm.... noooooooooo. Vishy is a legend. He had been learning opening's in the womb and had been playing 2200's and 2400's in his mom's womb itself. what happened was that they asked Vishy's mom Sushila Anand to sit in the game. Vishy would then tug signaling his mom how to play. This is well researched stuff and def not my shower opinion..
    gr8 vid still. Just love how u take drama and turn it into informative and awesome training vids.

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, respectful and two great games. Cheers!

  • @xuankienta3246
    @xuankienta3246 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you do more d4 rating climb? We need a part 4 for that!

  • @escaperoomleander1948
    @escaperoomleander1948 Před 2 lety +4

    Damages must be significant enough to make a difference.
    If some random CZcamsr claims she "never played men" in a video that got 4k views, there's no case. Especially if the CZcamsr says in the notes "hey guys, there's an error in this video, I said this lady didn't play men but she did. My bad." Honest mistake made and corrected.
    In the case of a multi-billion dollar company throwing shade at a real player in a show full of fake players, then replying "yeah, that's tough. We ain't changing it." Hello, five million dollar lawsuit.

    • @Xelluse
      @Xelluse Před rokem

      And most ironic is that in a moment when they tried to show how man are bad in disrespect to female players, shown that disrespect to a real female player themself in the first place...

  • @ioan1545
    @ioan1545 Před 2 lety +51

    Netflix threw a real life legend under the bus to make their own fake character look good. Well done Levy for making this video.
    The 1960's was a very different time, Nona Gaprindashvili's achievements might not be as grand as the queen's gambit story line but the fact she did what she did in that era is amazing, and belittling it in the show to just give credence to a fake character is not cool.

    • @iwanttobeabillionaire1703
      @iwanttobeabillionaire1703 Před 2 lety

      EZ 5 mil
      PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video... Also a patreon

    • @ekklesiast
      @ekklesiast Před rokem

      They needed to push their agenda about women discrimination in chess world. The only way they could do that is by rewriting the real history and humiliating the real woman chess player.

  • @civito4503
    @civito4503 Před 2 lety +2

    It's nice when you love both, chess and law

  • @orlock20
    @orlock20 Před 2 lety +1

    She may have a case since there was an old case in which there was a character replacement and the person that it represented still won a larger payout than this.
    Vishwanathan Anand and Nona Gaprindashvili did play against each other, but yeah, the lawyers did screw up on the dates.

  • @viranyusrinivasan5548
    @viranyusrinivasan5548 Před 2 lety +3

    0:08 my mirror told me that i dont have Netflix subscription.

  • @utopiapro007
    @utopiapro007 Před 2 lety +5

    16:36 levy misses mate in one. Again

  • @emmanuelnwachukwu6071
    @emmanuelnwachukwu6071 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome Video! Never knew Nona was this great!

  • @DanielSebastianNeira
    @DanielSebastianNeira Před 2 lety +1

    8:42 i love how he goes through all those lines even tho he knows it's a bad idea but just cause We Think it's a good idea. I call that mastery teaching

  • @luca_does_fitness
    @luca_does_fitness Před 2 lety +3

    Keep up the content!

  • @prestonlee7107
    @prestonlee7107 Před 2 lety +11

    i agree with hikaru's view tho, yes netflix should have done their research, but if everyone starts suing fictional shows or movies it would be crazy

    • @erlindaalba1682
      @erlindaalba1682 Před 2 lety +1

      Toxic hikaru is the best hikaru

    • @milannesic5718
      @milannesic5718 Před 2 lety +4

      You won't see this stuff in movies and shows. It is already forbidden to do it without permission, especially if it is a lie

    • @hrlincoln9873
      @hrlincoln9873 Před 2 lety +1

      @@milannesic5718 lol, no it isn't.

    • @user-or8ql3fe5v
      @user-or8ql3fe5v Před 2 lety +1

      So what - movies should just keep lying about famous people to push their narrative?

    • @prestonlee7107
      @prestonlee7107 Před 2 lety

      @@user-or8ql3fe5v I said Netflix should do their research

  • @schizoframia4874
    @schizoframia4874 Před rokem +1

    20:52 that h2 pawn was hanging for 9 billion moves

  • @formerdungeonmaster1232

    My favorite video of yours so far! You make chess seem so easy!

  • @ratom2906
    @ratom2906 Před 2 lety +4

    When Georgian guy watches this, I'm happy every time Georgia pops up on CZcams

  • @darcss6583
    @darcss6583 Před 2 lety +6

    He didn't say "get out of here" how rude :( levy u hurt my feelings brother

  • @jacobrose7973
    @jacobrose7973 Před 2 lety

    Loved the video, thanks for all the great content! I'm really grateful for it, and following your videos has helped me more than double my start at around 600 to now being up over 1200. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to see what you'll do next :)

  • @juandelacruz46
    @juandelacruz46 Před 2 lety

    Great game but learning from the engines, it would not allow its light colored bishop to remain passive (game one). It would sacrifice something to allow it to be productive.

  • @nikolozigabroshvili8343
    @nikolozigabroshvili8343 Před 2 lety +20

    I am from georgia and nona gafrindashvili inspired me so much more than anybody else 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪 and im sure that she's going to win this whole thing. 🇬🇪

    • @DoubleAAce
      @DoubleAAce Před 2 lety +3

      Wdym she is 80 she is gonna die soon why does she need 5 mil so greedy

    • @anderyoutube8506
      @anderyoutube8506 Před 2 lety +3

      im georgian too lol (zd)
      im inspired too

    • @nikolozigabroshvili8343
      @nikolozigabroshvili8343 Před 2 lety +3

      @@DoubleAAce its not about money its about who is true and who is not and its disrespectful. Everyone knows she was a first woman that played man. And Don't talk about Nona like that she's nowhere close to dying.

    • @hrlincoln9873
      @hrlincoln9873 Před 2 lety

      She's not going to win, but maybe the publicity will get them to fix the line.

    • @Seezius
      @Seezius Před rokem

      @@hrlincoln9873 she won it

  • @WaLLe4Milan
    @WaLLe4Milan Před 2 lety +38

    I am from Georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪 and I have been watchin your channel for quite some time. Words can not describe how much your support to Nona means to me as a Georgian. You are officially my favorite youtuber♥️😍 with love from Tbilisi bro. Shoutout to northernlion who brought me to your channel and inspired me to get back to chess world during this hard covid times.

    • @steelmongoose4956
      @steelmongoose4956 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey, I remember liberating your country from Russian invasion in the first Ghost Recon game! ❤️

    • @WaLLe4Milan
      @WaLLe4Milan Před 2 lety +1

      @@steelmongoose4956 I played that too 😂😂 was kinda funny... russia is a long story... all in all, you should try seeing georgia people say it is amazing 🤷🏻‍♂️♥️

    • @steelmongoose4956
      @steelmongoose4956 Před 2 lety +2

      @@WaLLe4Milan The creepy thing was that the game was set in 2008. I remember what happened in 2008. Anyway, God bless you and your nation.

    • @WaLLe4Milan
      @WaLLe4Milan Před 2 lety +1

      @@steelmongoose4956 appreciate it bro thanks ♥️ same to you 👍🏻

    • @azorthegreat2112
      @azorthegreat2112 Před 2 lety

      you know he just stole it from agadmator right?

  • @alexs.7763
    @alexs.7763 Před 2 lety +1

    I was really hoping for a Legal Eagle duet....

  • @fernandozimmer4562
    @fernandozimmer4562 Před 2 lety

    good content levy, well done as always bud

  • @proteuswest1084
    @proteuswest1084 Před 2 lety +13

    Thank you for this video. You really drilled down on one of the most important points here: almost everyone would have believed this line and would have assumed that women didn’t play men at all in this era if it weren’t for this lawsuit. I love the Queen’s Gambit and I hope that Netflix finds a way to make this right.

    • @gladosadoree
      @gladosadoree Před 2 lety +1

      Funny how you read that. Fact is, it was an obscure line in a movie about Beth. I didn't notice, Levy even didn't; and had she not herself put this under a magnifying glass, likely no one ever would have noticed.
      Simple matter is, she has, in the public's eye, faded into history. And her name is too difficult to remember. Seriously, had they mentioned Judith Polgar, pretty much the entire chess world would have been in an uprise, including me.

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Před 2 lety +8

      @@gladosadoree
      Wow, in just 2 paragraphs you revealed that you don't give a shit about the Queen's Gambit, nor do you give a shit about chess, while pretending to care about both.
      1) It was not some throwaway line, it was literally the justification for why the events of that episode were so groundbreaking
      2) It was a show, not movie
      3) She hasn't faded into history - at least not chess history. She was literally the FIRST female grandmaster. She will forever be remembered for that accomplishment, something nobody else will ever get to claim
      4) Her name is not that complicated. It's Nona. In terms of chess player names, that's pretty basic all things considered. This is the same game that has person named Viswanathan as a household name everyone knows.
      5) You didn't even get Judit Polgar's name correct
      Seriously, if you wanted to PRETEND to care, the least you could have done was look this up. At least then your lie would have been believable.

    • @gladosadoree
      @gladosadoree Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ruminations09 1) And yet nearly everyone missed it. Because Queen's Gambit, as a whole, was meant to elevate her (at the expense of others), and is clearly a fictional work (with the usual vague historical references to elicit a suspension of disbelief.) She is herself an amalgamation of Bobby Fischer, a bit of Vasyl Ivanchuk (the staring at the ceiling), and likely several others. Nobody is really looking for inaccuracies in these things, as everyone already knows it isn't based on reality.
      2) Really? It was a show? Should I now point out it wasn't a show, but a mini-series?
      3) And yes, she has faded into history. And, ironically, even the post we replied to said so literally: "You really drilled down on one of the most important points here: almost everyone would have believed this line and would have assumed that women didn’t play men at all in this era if it weren’t for this lawsuit." Exactly. 'almost everyone' did not know anything about her. And that's the problem with your reply. You not only make it personal, you take it personal too. And I get why ppl might be upset: she meant a lot for women's chess; but that doesn't detract one iota from the cold reality that even to the vast majority of the chess world, that line went by without notice.
      4) This is your retort, that Nona isn't a difficult name? What a disingenuous remark. Why, again, much to your chagrin, perhaps, Gaprindashvili really IS a difficult name to remember. Speaking on Ivanchuk, take his middle name, Mykhaylovych. That's easy, because it just sounds like Michael with the typical east-european '-witsch' attached to it. Gaprindashvili, however, shares no common Western reference. And no, Viswanathan isn't a household name either. People tend to call him Vishy. Like Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa, who is generally referred to as just Praga. And I bet the same majority of the chess world has no idea how to spell their names properly either (let alone are able to pronounce them properly).
      5) You got me on the Judit spelling. But it makes litte difference: both 'Judit(h)' and 'Polgar' are easy names to pronounce for Western people, whereas Gaprindashvili really is not.
      Also, what 'lie' exactly are you referring to? Or did you just put that in for effect?

    • @evanzigmond1213
      @evanzigmond1213 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gladosadoree u got fucked in the comments section sir lmao

    • @gladosadoree
      @gladosadoree Před 2 lety

      @@evanzigmond1213 Not unexpected, really. :)

  • @limakbear325
    @limakbear325 Před 2 lety +3

    I want Vishy vs aronian 2013 game please

  • @ghu2015
    @ghu2015 Před 2 lety +2

    Update Jan2022 : A federal judge on Thursday refused a bid by Netflix to dismiss a lawsuit...

  • @clevereduardosilva2346

    Coming up in 2022 Queen's Gambit second season, the story of Nona

  • @SilencedButNotForgotten
    @SilencedButNotForgotten Před 2 lety +33

    They undermined one of the biggest accomplishments a woman has done in chess to make their movie's point much stronger.
    That's absolutely awful.

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 Před 2 lety

      It's netflix, expecting better from them always leads to dissapointment.

  • @HrRezpatex
    @HrRezpatex Před 2 lety +4

    She have my support.
    Its super frustrating to see how the movie industry twist historical facts in the name of "artistic freedom".
    So i would love to see them get to pay for this now and then.
    Also, if this can help this amazing woman in getting some extra credits for her chess, i like that too. :)
    I am not sure about this, but probably at the time this happen, her country was probably occupied/controlled by Soviet, and then it is easy to see that it is a very big deal for her to not be named as a Russian.
    For example, a French person who lived in France when Germany occupied France would of course not be happy to be named as German later.
    I am also glad you make a positive video about her. :)
    All the movies/serials Americans have made about Vikings and Romans have made me so frustrated because there is so much twisted history and direct lies in them. Even if they are entertaining, they still try to make it look like facts also, even if it seldom is more then a few names that is correct, and the rest is so twisted that it hurt for those that know the facts.
    How would Americans like it if a lot of European movies was made that tried to look like they was half historical movies, and then they said things like Abraham Lincoln fought to keep the slavery and things like that?

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Před 2 lety

      Good strawman

    • @HrRezpatex
      @HrRezpatex Před 2 lety

      @@Someone25948 English is not my first language, but i do not believe a strawman is the definition of one that care about facts. :)

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Před 2 lety

      @@HrRezpatex Yes you're right. You're comparing the mistake Netflix made to saying Lincoln was pro-slavery. You think both of miatakes are at the same level?

    • @aaaaaa-gq3dv
      @aaaaaa-gq3dv Před 2 lety

      Wait, you think movies should get sued simply for changing historical events?

    • @HrRezpatex
      @HrRezpatex Před 2 lety

      @@aaaaaa-gq3dv No, i do not think all movies should be sued for that.
      But i would love to see them pay for it now and then.
      And when you say "simply for changing historical events" it sound like twisting facts and lie about it is nothing.
      And since it has become so normal, i understand that people think so.

  • @kreemos2698
    @kreemos2698 Před 2 lety

    This's a very good change of pace... I like this video.

  • @TheKawww
    @TheKawww Před 2 lety

    13:28 😂🧞 Levy is a genie!

  • @lelouchvibritannia1919
    @lelouchvibritannia1919 Před 2 lety +178

    Queen’s gambit made people know Magnus Carlsen exists and he is a genius

    • @aslaksockcraft
      @aslaksockcraft Před 2 lety +38

      NGL watching magnus analyze borgov vs harmon and completely trash borgov for his pathetic chess was extremely funny to me.

    • @Johanisnotreal
      @Johanisnotreal Před 2 lety +2

      @@aslaksockcraft he's unintentionally hilarious

    • @thesnackbandit
      @thesnackbandit Před 2 lety

      What are you talking about??

    • @muhammad_hilyah
      @muhammad_hilyah Před 2 lety +1

      @@thesnackbandit watch magnus reacting to queen's gambit

    • @ahmedbounader5593
      @ahmedbounader5593 Před 2 lety

      @@aslaksockcraft ???,

  • @bigsc000t7
    @bigsc000t7 Před 2 lety +5

    4:54 levi just said eleventeen without batting an eye

    • @bigsc000t7
      @bigsc000t7 Před 2 lety

      @@GaBoGaP ahhh your ears are better than mine good sir

  • @omarkaddour2735
    @omarkaddour2735 Před 2 lety

    i played an opening on accident called the norweigan defence, can you do a video on it?

  • @gjonfeinstein5878
    @gjonfeinstein5878 Před 2 lety

    I loved this video dedicated to Nona Gaprindasvili. I studied her games back in the 1970s. In the game you analyzed with the Grand Prix attack, you make several good points about playing against black's light square bishop with pawns and blockading knights. However, there is one point you were trying to make for effect that doesn't pan out in the variation you described. If white had played Qg3 and black castled, Bh6, Bf6?? would be losing for black as white can play B:g7, b:g7 f6! and it's game over. Anyway, I am a big fan and love how you inject humor and your enthusiasm for the game whenever possible. I was touched by your tribute to one of the greatest women chess players of all time, Nona Gaprindasvili.

  • @vsyovklyucheno
    @vsyovklyucheno Před 2 lety +7

    I am common person. I see money in the title, I click.

  • @yusufkabeer2671
    @yusufkabeer2671 Před 2 lety +3

    Levy I appreciate your hardwork and everything. BUT YOUVE GOTTA UPLOAD MORE BRO I CANT HAVE ENOUGH OF YOUR VIDS

  • @zaclanderos1624
    @zaclanderos1624 Před 2 lety

    I love how levy gets so excited by narrating these awesome matchs

  • @rosscampbell2296
    @rosscampbell2296 Před 2 lety

    4:51 It was in this position that Levy invented a new number

  • @TheCategor
    @TheCategor Před 2 lety +4

    22:42 "I hope they find a way to rectify the situation..." - they don't need to because of 22:53. This "situation" indeed introduced us to 1st woman grandmaster, perhaps all this was even planned... and indeed go Nona!

  • @abracadabra8501
    @abracadabra8501 Před 2 lety +49

    i hope she wins they shouldnt slander her name and legacy like that. it's not promoting women in chess (fictionally in this case with beth harmon) if you have to lie and put down other women's achivements

    • @relaxx2654
      @relaxx2654 Před 2 lety +5

      I hope she loses :D

    • @abracadabra8501
      @abracadabra8501 Před 2 lety +11

      @@relaxx2654 then leave a comment on the main video. idc what your opinion is you can think that if you like, just dunno why you replied to me about it lmaooo

    • @firasempire5294
      @firasempire5294 Před 2 lety +1

      debatable though i think most would disagree with you mate

    • @aman_singh__
      @aman_singh__ Před 2 lety

      Yeah but why 5 millions??

    • @philipauken5391
      @philipauken5391 Před 2 lety

      5 million is too much

  • @lyssalud6781
    @lyssalud6781 Před 2 lety

    you just know that it's gonna be a positional battle when two sovjet masters clash

  • @ianhughes2844
    @ianhughes2844 Před 2 lety +1

    2:40 They blundered out of the complaint, but hopefully they can stabilize during discovery.

  • @tyrantkingking
    @tyrantkingking Před 2 lety +34

    I appreciate this take on the lawsuit so much more than Hikaru's take of basically telling her to go kick rocks and quit being such a pansy. Good on you for giving her the credit she deserves

    • @SilencedButNotForgotten
      @SilencedButNotForgotten Před 2 lety

      Very true!

    • @ds8249
      @ds8249 Před 2 lety +6

      She deserves credit, but not in a fictional show mentioning a public figure. Just silly. The charges will never stick. If you go into a fictional show expecting sheer facts, you’re a moron. Let’s all sue the producers of Hamilton, because most of that story is just that… a story. They embellished for the sake of entertainment. A ton of what happens is actually fictional and yes, it’s based on real people

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 Před 2 lety +5

      Dude imagine the tantrum Hikaru would throw if he was misrepresented

    • @asumazilla
      @asumazilla Před 2 lety +5

      @@douwehuysmans5959 He wouldnt care.

    • @Trathien-
      @Trathien- Před 2 lety +1

      @@douwehuysmans5959 he already has been... multiple times

  • @hakairyu1
    @hakairyu1 Před 2 lety +49

    She has every right to be offended and demand that Netflix redress this and apologize publicly, which is why I’m glad she sued as it got this story out into the public eye, and I suspect that is why her lawyers brought this suit. However, it’s basically unwinnable as she’d have to demonstrate actual malice over what was essentially a throwaway line noone gave a second thought to, which is why both everyone at Netflix and everyone viewing missed it for a year.

    • @modernoto10
      @modernoto10 Před 2 lety +1

      Only need actual malice for public figures. I'm not sure she qualifies as a public figure, so it wouldn't need to be malice.

    • @youdontknowme5980
      @youdontknowme5980 Před 2 lety +4

      @@modernoto10 it need to be malice in any case

    • @modernoto10
      @modernoto10 Před 2 lety +3

      @@youdontknowme5980 In Florida, where I practice law, that is not the case. Malice is only necessary if the plaintiff is a public figure, such as a politician. Private citizens need only show negligence. I can't speak for other jurisdictions.

    • @youdontknowme5980
      @youdontknowme5980 Před 2 lety +1

      @@modernoto10 oh pretty interesting, i am from other country so i was not sure about the USA

    • @hakairyu1
      @hakairyu1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@modernoto10 I’m not a lawyer so I’m willing to defer, but I find myself sceptical that she doesn’t qualify as a public figure.

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 Před 2 lety +1

    Most likely outcome is a settlement for an undisclosed sum and Netflix re-dubs the line from that scene to acknowledge her. The way the shot is composed they don't really need to re-shoot anything since the speaker is not in frame. As to whether that's a fair outcome...

    • @Socrates...
      @Socrates... Před 2 lety

      Netflix is an easy target in this woke culture

  • @afnankusuma2368
    @afnankusuma2368 Před 2 lety

    wow wow wow, that's escalated quickly

  • @RigzoTV
    @RigzoTV Před 2 lety +5

    Does that mean, if a writer uses Nona Gaprindashvili in fiction, that character should be a perfect match to the actual chess player?

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Před 2 lety +1

      You better make sure you get everything right or I'll be there to fork $5M from you!

    • @Amon_Gus6969
      @Amon_Gus6969 Před 2 lety

      No but it shouldn’t be humiliating

  • @naymorningstar
    @naymorningstar Před 2 lety +19

    Y'all, relax about the 5 million dollars. She's 80 and doesn't need the 5 million. She'll most likely get a small settlement out of court and donate it to some random local chess club. This is more for publicity for women's chess than anything, and I'm all for it. Go Nona!

    • @DoubleAAce
      @DoubleAAce Před 2 lety +5

      She is bare greedy tho

    • @DoubleAAce
      @DoubleAAce Před 2 lety +2

      I hope she doesnt win it seems very to say its ruining its her professional career but since she is 80 she is gonna die soon so no one cares also why is there a female chess movement. Either ur good at chess or ur not it doesnt depend on her gender

    • @knyshov
      @knyshov Před 2 lety

      Lawsuit is filed by a Beverly Hills firm. They don't fight for peanuts.

  • @improvechess
    @improvechess Před 2 lety +2

    You inspired me levy more then queens gambit.🙂✌

  • @henriquewinnischofer6552

    Rafael Leitão (Brazilian GM) had spoken about this months ago

  • @TreeGGwi
    @TreeGGwi Před 2 lety +25

    Damn she’s so good that she played someone a year before they were born

  • @KeithDCanada
    @KeithDCanada Před 2 lety +7

    I do question how much a show, concerning a fictional character, even though it references real people, can be held to 'defamation' accusations....
    The story is fictional... though inspired from some real world people... but still fictional. If people start suing over their person being used factually wrong in a work of fiction, there are a LOT of movies, tv shows, books, and even artists that are going to be in trouble...
    As much as I understand she was offended by the claim in the show, this feels like if Richard Nixon was still alive and sued the studio over his portrayal in The Watchmen.
    1) It's a work of fiction and is taking artistic license with the material because it needed Harmon to be 'breaking new ground' so they wrote it that way to serve the characters arc.
    2) It's a period piece, set in a very sexist time period, and the intent may have been just to portray male commentators not giving a female champion her proper credit.

    • @joni1405
      @joni1405 Před 2 lety +2

      There also aren't any damages since she didn't lose any money over this. Normally winning a 5 million dollar lawsuit would mean that the defamation severely impacted your life in some way. She'd have to have lost sponsorships or had her good name dragged through the mud because of this in order to win the lawsuit, neither of which really happened.

    • @milannesic5718
      @milannesic5718 Před 2 lety

      So, if I got this right, I make the movie to be fictional, and now I can make fools of all the people on the planet, without their permission. Portray Bill Gates as a gay for example or Elon Musk with small pnis. I can do even worse , more serious stuff

    • @KeithDCanada
      @KeithDCanada Před 2 lety +3

      @@milannesic5718 Tons have movies, over the last fifty years, have portrayed certain people of note in an imperfect light, some just downright false... but there is a difference when the work is intended as fiction, or trying to pass itself off as biographical. I'm sure some people have sued and won, but I'm guessing that most did not, and others may not have even cared.

    • @hrlincoln9873
      @hrlincoln9873 Před 2 lety +2

      @@milannesic5718 Yes you can. See South Park, SNL, etc.

    • @georgesracingcar7701
      @georgesracingcar7701 Před 2 lety

      Well yeah. By the lawsuit’s logic, that means the entire alternate history genre is defamatory and everything in it is going to get sued… even though it’s a hypothetical, fictional variation of real history.
      The joke is if this show actually let its audience know it was fictional. If it didn’t then Netflix fucked up big time

  • @strangelyrepulsive77
    @strangelyrepulsive77 Před 2 lety

    8:12 as opposed to retreats forward?

  • @nalinparihar
    @nalinparihar Před 2 lety +2

    I have not seen queens gambit though