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Yamaha THR10II (The Popular Practice Amp Gets An Update)
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2019
- Yamaha THR10II (The Popular Practice Amp Gets An Update)
Here's part 2 of this review: • Yamaha THR 10II - Revi...
Yamaha's THR range has been incredibly popular. The THR looks good, many think it sounds great, and some people have even called the Yamaha THR the best practice amp out there. Now Yamaha have released a new version of the THR. It comes in three different models (THR10, THR10 wireless, and THR30 wireless), and the one I'm taking a look at is the THR10.
Is it worth the hype? Find out in this video.
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I just got the THR10II Wireless a few days ago.
This is how I feel about it:
1. Wireless feature is just awesome, it is a great reason to pick up your guitar more often and just play
2. The modeling is pretty good (better than many things i've tried). Cab simulations let you really dial in a good tone that goes well with your guitar
3. Built-in speakers are average, can sound a little boxy but not muddy. It is easy to EQ a sparkling tone, it just lacks a little depth.
But it is really not too bad, still sounds very nice and clean.
4. Clean tones are the bomb! Crunch sounds you need to work a little harder to get out a really good tone, but it is certainly doable (PRO TIP: Crank the master instead of gain on crunch, crank the gain on cleans!)
5. It is awesome to use this just as a modeler and passing the signal through the headphone jack to your monitor/living room speakers
6. Use the compressor that you can enable in the app, can really make the sound pop better!
Is it worth this money?
For me it is, because I am just looking for something easy to use, with decent sound.
If I am stuck with using just the built in speakers i'd still buy it, but they are small speakers and the sound matches that.
Not suitable for gigging, definitely suitable for rocking out at your livingroom!
giftowercom can you confirm it does thr10c sound as deluxe? Tx
@@garnuts7934 i would look at thr10 II instead of c, which gives you much nore tones and you can come close to the deluxe sound if you take time to try and dial different combinatons
@@giftowercom ok thanks you, i send back my thr10c as i was in try period, i ll go for thr10ii.
@@garnuts7934 just to be celar, nothing sounds like deluxe except for the deluxe, its just about what is cose enough for you :)
Glad you like it :)
I have a THR10X. It is a actually a great amp. However, you need to sit down with it and get the editor going to extract the best tones from it. Yeah, you can just turn it on and fiddle the knobs, but once you get into the deeper parameters you can really open up the tonal possibilities available, especially when you start mixing different cabinets. Also the amp needs to be properly elevated to ear level for best results. It is, after all, a 10 watt amp with tiny speakers. Mine takes pedals extremely well and another key to this amp is not to run too much gain, but dime the amp volume (not the master). This way, it reacts like a NMV wide open and is very responsive to the volume control. It is never going to fill the room like a 50 or 100 watt amp and 4x12, but that was not what it was designed to do.
I have the THR 30. I love it, to each it’s own.
Absolutely.
I got rid of my katana 50 (which is great, but too big and too loud for my taste) and got the THR 30 with the wireless. I use the app on my phone and downloaded the 41 factory presets, and with 2 swipes I have a new preset to play with. I'm just a beginner (1 year), but I really love this little amp - sounds great to me and is unbelievably convenient.
I got mine and at first I was like meh...and a bit disappointed for just using the amp itself, but after I use the app it’s pretty great. I totally agree with you with why the hell don’t they put the 3 model switch on the amp, other than that there are so much more you can do with the app and pretty fun to play with.
I like your review cos I can see that you are really honest. Keep on with the good work!
Thanks :)
I have been using the thr5 amp for the last couple years and what I do is keep it on the lead channel and use an overdrive pedal with the gain around 12 and the master all the way up. Like others have said the app helps a ton because there’s more access to EQ and you can adjust delay/reverb settings. Also cab simulations - I think the British 2x12 sounds the best
I hate you for being honest about this amp ha ha. Refreshing to see an actual real opinion on a piece of gear rather than an endorsed one. I just got one of these for a great price. It won't be like my tube amps but hopefully I can dial a tone without perforating my ear drums. After a few hours of use I find you do need the app to get the nicest tones. Cleans are lovely but anything gritty requires patience
Haha :D Thanks :)
@HUWAN CLAN I love you too 😊
Which app?
I just purchased this amp and I love the sweet juicy tones. It is really annoying that the compressor and noise gate cannot be accessed without using the phone app or PC. Especially since the noise gate is very aggressive and doesnt work particularly well imo. The effects all sound great, I particularly like the tape echo but they can not be truly adjusted without the app :( The amp definitely cant be appreciated without using the app and that's a shame, there are even cab models in there that are nowhere on the amp's physical settings. The presets are useful though. I set 5 that I like and I dont anticipate having to hop back into the app very often
Good review! I've owned the first release for several years, and only use the clean tones because the gain tones make my hair fall out. Thanks Elmo!
Thanks!
I like that you give honest reviews. For that I will subscribe and watch your channel.
Thank you :)
Playing great, much better than i will ever be, i would never trade my lack of skills for that tone though lol.
Haha :D
hey, nice video! I'm curious if the non wireless version does have bluetooth support for music streaming from your phone? Cheers
Can't remember.
Very informative, as always. Humble suggestion for future review: Positive Grid Bias Mini. Should be interesting.
Thanks for the tip :)
Just picked one up, open box on ebay ($200) and wow, I am really impressed
@L Smith Good for you internet tough guy... to each their own.
@L Smith Curious to know what sounds 'good' to you... or what exactly you were doing with the amp to make it sound so 'bad'. Seems a little unnecessary to call people who like it 'pussies' as well.
Its a little amp specifically designed to be played quietly.
@L Smith fair enough. The only trouble with the ‘low watt’ valve amps is they still need to be cranked… because they are valve amps. I have a blackstar ht-1 and for the size of it it’s very loud.
(Trust me I know what loud is, I own a Marshall 1959hw superlead and I have used that unattenuated and on 10 a few times)
To get its best it needs to be at 3 o clock and by then it’s far to loud for everyday bedroom playing, or teaching or even in a flat or something.
The Yamaha actually sounds great at the super low volumes to me. I’d say it might have been worth holding onto a bit more,
Try some other cabs in the app and what not. It’s not meant to be in the same category as a 15 watt valve amp or the Marshall class 5. It wasn’t even built to be as loud hence the small speakers.
@L Smith I own a Marshall 1959hw with matching 1960hw A and B cabs… also a Vintage Modern 2466 also with the matching A and B cab. I gig with it regularly cranked so I know what a good amp sounds like dude… haha.
Everyone has their personal preference… and also the guitar you use will have an influence too… and the general tone from your hands.
If I didn’t like the sound of the amp I’d get rid of it… but as a guitar teacher who needs a small amp to get around peoples houses and in schools, the Thr10ii just does the job perfectly with the wireless stuff. It’s not my gigging amp, or a recording amp.
Also I’m curious to know what ‘quiet bedroom’ levels is to you…
I’d suggest rather than acting like we don’t know what we’re talking about, perhaps accept we all have different taste?
@L Smith out of curiosity, what sort of band/guitarist would you say is a main influence for your tone?
I've had the boss katana air and the positive grid spark and the Yamaha thr 30II wireless blows them all out of the water 💦 is it perfect ? No but it's meant to be a desktop practice amplifier and in my opinion it hits the mark close enough on most and tics all the box's for what it is.
which one do you recommend?
18:38-19:00 nope :)
@Elmo a small picture in a corner with the amp settings would be nice to have in the videos - especially if you want to go back and forth between different sections of the video
Might be. I would probably do that if I was doing this full time. But I have a job as well, and time is very limited. Multi camera stuff is always an added element with extra hassle. I have done it in a couple of videos, but personally I think it adds only a little value.
Thanks for the constructive criticism though :)
@@MrPolevaulter Just take a picture with the phone, nothing fancy. Its up to you, ll good either way.
@@RapttorX Cheers :)
@@MrPolevaulter 25:17 maybe they would but they have jobs as well and, as we all know, time is limited.
😂😂😂😂 😂
Elmo Karjalainen lol - you sound like me. I only do part time but the mulitcam is indeed a pain in the ass. 🤓
I can't seem to get mine to connect to my PC. No matter what I do, it recognizes the THR10ii but says its disconnected from the amp. Like the USB cable isn't recognized by the software but is recognized by the computer.
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks for the review! I'm looking for a small practice amp right now with headset jack (I'm in a flat, I want to be able to use headset and also not too loud amp). A friend gave me a Marshall to try but it was a huge one and low volume was not great. It was awesome with more volume but can't do that because of neighbours... What do you suggest for 150-180 pounds/euros at the moment? Katana, micro gx, thr5.. or..? I'm too noob to spot the differences yet..😂
Hi,
I personally didn't like the THR5 at all. The Katana is good. I especially like the Mini for some reason. My favorite is the old Roland Micro Cube.
@@MrPolevaulter thank you very much Elmo! I've seen some of your tests and kind of saw that but I was wondering if maybe something made you change your mind in between. Thanks for the answer!
@@oulanos1 No problem :)
2 years have passed and we need to know if the expanded parameters on the app make a difference.
I'm torn between this and the spark mini...
I don't know. I didn't like this at all if I remember correctly.
Great review. Never actually understood these though. You can use them at home, but really would prefer something grab n go for home, jams and rehearsals. Keeping the good stuff for gigs. But hey each to their own.
Cheers!
I think its not wort the upgrade cost from the old model. The old model just sounds the same after the latest firmware. Its bad.
El Karja strikes again! Cheers!
Cheers!
Is there a foot switch for this? Don't know if I should get a vt40x with it's foot switch or this
That mahogany strat is just beautifull
Yeah, I rather like it :)
It's pretty Colonel... Very pretty... But can it grate cheese?
:D
I'm not sure if you mic'd it up or went direct through USB but id does sound really boxy over here.
Mic
I am a big fan of the Micro Cube GX, but I was considering this amp. Thanks for this review!! I'll stick with the Micro Cube GX.
Wise choice :)
The Micro Cube GX was my first amp and it’s great (especially for portability, I like it uses AA batteries) but I want something with more EQ settings so I can train my ear. I’m really into classic rock and 90’s rock. I wanted something with better high gain sound because the Roland Micro Cube GX is a great amp for cleans the distortion is lacking a bit. I think the Yamaha THR10ii will be a bit more versatile for getting a variety of tones
It' a good product with specific uses. I would go for it but not at this price.
Thanks El Karja! Always a good demo. Next time do some polka. (Why not, come.on!)
Polka Dots and Moonbeams? :D
Another great video Mr Karjalainen . I do find all these "Do It All " practice amps largely the same ; Yamaha, Vox, Blackstar, Line 6, etc... They also come out so muffled on CZcams (or in general) when you stick a mic in the front of the "Speaker". Have you tried the audio via the USB? It MUST sound better than this for that amount of cash! hah!
they are all muffled because they already sound like a miced cab and when you miced it again ...well...you get this. As you said the USB out has to be better for recordings.
@@RapttorX agreed, that and the cones arent designed to project like a normal guitar amp does. I own a few infamous Line 6 Spider V amps (for teaching), and they sound and track so much better when you bypass the cone.
Agreed. I only record via the USB connection, and it sounds great. That's where these amps shine.
@@davelanciani-dimaensionx Im sure it does! Overall, I appreciate the constructive conversation on this thread ;)
Constructive discussion on CZcams? Dang! :D
You going to review the Spark amp which seems to be getting a lot of press?
Bought one. It hasn't arrived yet.
8:36 waiting for FLOODS - PANTERA's initial riff!
Доверяю этому парню, всегда сморю его обзоры
Thanks 😊
Hi Elmo! Great review!! First of all, congratulations for your superb playing. I´m interested in this amp and I guess I´m gonna purchase it sooner or later. Something you said got my attention, though. If I haven´t misunderstood, you said that this amp doesn´t provide tons of distortion, so it´s not a fierce amp in its more overdriven settings. I´ve seen that you haven´t reviewed the hi-gain and special voices in the "modern" mode, the one that is supposed to match the former THR10X emulations. I reckon that you might have omitted them because you could have not noticed any substantial difference from the distortion you got from the classic voices (with the red light). Am I wrong? Are the differences worth mentioning or you don´t feel so? Thanks very much in advance and congratulations again!!
I have this amp, modern is very mean but you have to give it a bit of volume.
Thanks! Yeah, going to do a second video asap.
@@MrPolevaulter Oh thanks very much, I´m looking forward to watching it, I´ve found the first one very interesting.
@@diegofiorillo6412 Thanks for your reply, I´ll take it into account when I purchase mine!!
YEEEEEE HEEEEEEE EXCELLENT THANKS ELMO
Is that a Ziltoid puppet I see on top of that amp ?
Yep :)
Sounds awesome 👊🏻
Cheers :)
good sound tahnks Elmo
Cheers!
You are also à good player and musicien too
I got to try these out in a store over the weekend and I wasn't too impressed either. What I didn't like was how limited the eq was. I agree about not liking this trend of apps and hooking your amp to a computer to get full functionality. The reality is a little button next to the channel dial to switch channel voices can't be that much of a big deal to add. Everything is digital anyway. If my memory still works the bigger thr may have that little button. I could be wrong. I'm approaching 40 with the quickness and my mind isn't what it used to be. I could be confusing it with the new katana.
Good video Elmo.
Grant Hutchins thank you for confirming that.
Grant Hutchins I watched a video where the reviewer showed the editor. It did seem pretty simple and easy. I like that you can tweak the 4 modulation types (rate depth and mix) and the reverb and the delay also. It would be nice to see additional effects available esp at the price point. 400 bucks is quite a bit more than the katana and you get a lot more with the katana plus it's loud enough to gig. I'm sure if I spent some time with the Yamaha and the editor I could get sounds I like. The sounds I heard weren't bad when I tried it out in the store but they weren't that much better or at all better than the katana for almost half the price. Plus I watched the original andertons videos on the thr and lee goes on and on about how it's the best little practice amp. I was just expecting more from it based on what I heard about it. With that said I only played it in a guitar center for 15 mins. So I'm not the best judge plus sounds and tones are totally subjective.
My thing is for over 400 bucks I could get a AC 4 or a blues junior or a used legitimate amp that will sound great and take pedals etc. So knowing that I feel that a amp like the Yamaha really needs to be something special. Or should be something special when it's competing with actual amps.
Cheers! Another constructive discussion. What's happening to CZcams? :D Good stuff :)
yamaha thr10 ii vs yamaha thr10x what better for metal ???
Dunno.
Sergey Voitovich you can get the metal models from the THR10X in the THR10 II through the app I believe.
I've had both. The 10x has way better metal sounds. This 10ii doesn't have similar tones to most of the old 10x models. I returned this one sadly.
Does it have the same dimensions as the THR10?
Think so.
Elmo this one or the Boss katana mini?
Not this for me. I don't really like the THR.
This or a real amp like Marshall dsl20hr?
I need mainly for practice at home
A real amp, or a Spark, or a Micro Cube. The Tube5 and 15 by Harley Benton are great.
@@MrPolevaulter Really? You would recommend the Spark or Micro Cube over the THR? Do they sound better or have to do with featureS?
@@crunchchannel8788 They all sound better (but that's subjectuve). In terms of features the the Spark is the only one of those mentioned that has more features.
Wireless U can buy wireless for $20 it's a con
Hi! Have you tried extended stereo on THR10II , they add this feature as VOX already has. So, I wonder is THR is better with this feature or VOX adio is better ?
I didn't try it on either the Adio or THR. Sorry.
@@MrPolevaulter which one you Like More??dont say neither pls choose one :(
@@ronnysuarez3257 THR. But only just. I'd get a Cube, Katana, Mustang LT25 or something instead.
@@MrPolevaulter I know those are better and thanks, but I might have to travel any time soon so those options are too big to fit in My backpack jaja I think many others buy those kind of amps for the same reason, they tend to travel a lot and Need something easy to carry
@@ronnysuarez3257 Ah, then I'd probably go for the Katana Mini.
When you review the THR along with the app features, would you please demo some of the preset sounds available when you press the 3 guitars button in the upper left hand corner of the app? Was curious if they were good usable tones. Thank you
I didn't even know about that feature.
Elmo Karjalainen Yes, it’s almost hidden. Haven’t seen it mentioned in any of the reviews or demos. I downloaded the app to see what it looked like, and found it by accident.
They sound pretty damn good!
I’ll only need an amp this small when I’m living in a van down by the river...🎸🔊🎶🤘🏻 Cheers Elmo!
Cheers!
Hello, please, this thr 10ii or positive grid spark?
Spark.
Hey Elmo, the riff you played at 12:32. It sounds so familiar, is it from a song or was it just improv?
"Crazy Babies" - Ozzy
Ozzy indeed :)
I mean, his name is difficult to pronouncing even for karelian people, they just call him: Hey, basswood lespaul!
Why is the mic on the fucking screw at the corner of the cabinet?
Because the screw sounded the best.
The THR:s are very overrated. Thanks for your always honest reviews!
Cheers!
I totally disagree with you on that.
@@hesch-tag Disagreeing is totally fine.
ty
Cheers :)
have you switched it to the "thr10x" model?
Not yet.
@PTSD I wish I could figure out how to use cubase. I cannot even get it to accept the licence. Something about an elisence
@PTSD hey thanks buddy. I will contact yamaha. How do I search user created tones and import them?
@PTSD Just to clarify, you're saying the 10X is hotter than the MkII range when they're in Modern mode? I own a 10x, which I love, was thinking about upgrading to the MkII to get the wireless features but not so sure if the gain isn't to the same level as on the 10x.
Thanks for the honest review, because most people after $$ are ready to do any shit!!!
Post scriptum:
Regarding this case:
I am supresided who so many people say this amp is amazing!!! But guess they got $$!!!
I would go for practice amp try some full analog amplification.
There are boutique quality made in USA hand wired small analog amps. So i would go with them.
You are just... poor. 🤭
Thanks :)
Caint you just use the app. Then save the tone in amp.
Too expensive for what it is
Tried one, I don't understand the hype.
Yeah, me neither.
I bought the 30ii. I live in a place with beaches a 10 minute drive in every direction. It’s loud, portable and rechargeable. Is there another amp that you can just recharge, that sounds that good?
It looks a bit like the new mac case
:D
What I saw is just they saved money on a screw because of the Yamaha logo on the top left (just kidding). I prefer my Orange Micro Terror for home use... it has more bite to it! The fact it has a 12AX7 makes a huge difference in sound. Anyway the Yamaha THR10II sounds like a guitar imprisoned into a box!
:D
I had that little head...not to bad. I also had the mini mooer with one tube preamp, and on tube output. It smoked the orange imo.
The new models sound like shit, the modeling is completely different and sounds like the line 6 spider USED to sound. The current spider sounds better than the new Yamaha THR modelling, the old THR10 and THR10c with v2 firmware are completely different modelling than these new THRII amps. They better do a v2 with these new amps or there's no way I would upgrade for bluetooth and a bigger cab, they sound like jagged ass
Sounds dead for my taste. Old ones especially thr10c much better.
shatteredsquare Once you turn off the cab models, it sounds great.
@@jsjirn never tried it like that, if you could load custom IRs it would be worth it, otherwise the whole point is to have great tone in one package
I agree, the 10x sounded way better for metal than the metal amps on the 10ii.
Hi, Elmo i liked your review of the thr10II but i wonder why you told nothing about the distorting/rattling/vibrating problem that they have. I guess maybe so thr lovers don’t come and hate on you for not lowering both the gain and volume at half so its sound okay. I have a fender champion 20 that is supposedly a begginer practice amp and it don’t distort as the thr10ii even when at max volume and its less than half the price of the thr10II. I think that Bluetooth function is worthless if the amp sound like fart when the volume is cranked a bit. I uploaded a video to show the problem with the thr10II. czcams.com/video/MiHOQIwVOQI/video.html
I can't remember anymore, as it's a while since I made the video, but I don't remember having a rattling problem.
it has 15 sounds plus bass and flat
3 sounds...clean, distorted and bass. All the effects have the same digital nasal sound. I guess spoiled by my Kemper and Friedman BE.
Sorry, it sounds like a dry fuzz-fart through a PVC pipe. I only stayed because of Elmo's playing and pony tail.
:D
I like the concept of this thing but of all the demos I've heard it really just doesn't sound that good. Sad because I really want to like it.
I agree with you almost completely except i dont like it at all. Connecting shit to a computer, nope. If i cant get some kind of tone with the amps nobbies or pedals then no thanks. Speaking of which it didnt sound like that would do well with pedals. Great review as expected.
Thanks!
yamaha thr , vox adio , boss katana air. kinda the same.
Haven't tried the Katana Air.
Thanks.. I am not going to buy it. I will buy a small proper amp instead
intro scared the shit out of me. Fix yo levels n' shit.
Keeps people awake :D
This was really the worst way you could have recorded this amp, no wonder it sounds shrill and boxy. Close micing both speakers gives a better impression, or even just using the usb out.
"it hasn't much gain..." WAT... you must have the lowest gain pickup ever to say something like that... 🤦🏻♂️
I do have quite low output pickups.
@@MrPolevaulter I played with my Les Paul, that has burstbucker pros. It hasn't the highest out put, but it does roar with some humbuckers. With single coils it may not be very inspiring.
It’s the same annoying runs this guy plays that gives my no idea about the amps and their possibilities.