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  • Shadow the Hedgehog was meant to be morally ambiguous - so who is the REAL Shadow? Is it the one that chooses to save humanity? Or the one that chooses to destroy it? Join your host Grant as we analyze the SHIT out of Shadow the Hedgehog and find out his true identity in the Story You Never Knew!
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  • @Treesicle
    @Treesicle  Před 7 lety +882

    Hope you liked our take on Shadow! Since Spring is finally here, I'd like to know what your favorite OUTDOOR activity is. I know we're super nerds and don't go outside very often (or maybe that's just me...) but I'm sure there's SOMETHING you like to do outside! For mine, I'm gonna pick...walking in nature :3

    • @rafilamer3394
      @rafilamer3394 Před 7 lety +2

      same

    • @spidertron575
      @spidertron575 Před 7 lety +3

      Treesicle sup

    • @shite12
      @shite12 Před 7 lety +3

      Treesicle hey treesicle, do Naruto the story you never knew, also here's a joke. what is sasuke's favorite movie?
      finding chi-dory

    • @lovablefox9782
      @lovablefox9782 Před 7 lety

      hahahahha MY MAN,MY MAN XD

    • @samreddig8819
      @samreddig8819 Před 7 lety +1

      Treesicle finally! a new story you never knew!

  • @biggayzai
    @biggayzai Před 7 lety +750

    "Sometimes, a hedgehog just needs a gun."

    • @slothblaze3170
      @slothblaze3170 Před 5 lety +42

      "Sometimes,a hedgehog is the only thing standing between the obliteration of earth"

    • @Idkkkkkkkkkize
      @Idkkkkkkkkkize Před 5 lety +14

      Sometimes? No. *Always.*

    • @joshuagump8889
      @joshuagump8889 Před 4 lety +23

      @@slothblaze3170 Sometimes, a hedgehog is the ultimate fucking lifeform and you just have to deal with it!

    • @cassierice6288
      @cassierice6288 Před 4 lety +2

      Yes

    • @dylanhyde5353
      @dylanhyde5353 Před 3 lety +3

      I completely agree

  • @RaggedyRed1
    @RaggedyRed1 Před 5 lety +553

    Fun fact: he doesn't age.
    Shadow. Being the "ultimate lifeform" physically stays at his prime, as seen in Archie Comics

  • @fawnpuddlejumper1734
    @fawnpuddlejumper1734 Před 7 lety +656

    I feel bad for Shadow. Not remembering who you are almost all your life and being haunted by your friend's death must take a toll on life.

  • @alejandroolazabal7995
    @alejandroolazabal7995 Před 7 lety +1379

    Unpopular opinion here: I loved shadow the hedgehog the game

    • @fouadthehedgehog7982
      @fouadthehedgehog7982 Před 5 lety +53

      Alejandro Olazabal when i got this game, i actually played it everyday and night.

    • @arctrooperecho9616
      @arctrooperecho9616 Před 5 lety +44

      It was awesome I loved the lava map in the two player mode and how it rises

    • @5UNG0Dinti
      @5UNG0Dinti Před 5 lety +14

      I loved the game too

    • @noahdetloff3997
      @noahdetloff3997 Před 5 lety +6

      same it is a little more interesting

    • @parriun
      @parriun Před 5 lety +6

      I liked it too

  • @DarkMagicianMana
    @DarkMagicianMana Před 6 lety +593

    Adult gamers: waaah! This game is so bad!
    Kid gamers: Shadow is so epic!

  • @KayJeyD
    @KayJeyD Před 6 lety +235

    Wouldn't it be a dream come true if Sega announced a game with shadow as the main character and a lot of other sonic characters and the story had depth, was well thought out, and was actually a great game?

    • @Olivia-W
      @Olivia-W Před 4 lety +10

      Yeah...
      Honestly, I think a fan SA3 would happen before that. Sega just doesn't have the talent or will.

    • @isaiahcantu2773
      @isaiahcantu2773 Před 4 lety +4

      I already loved the first game a lot. It was the first game I played as a kid growing up; and it simply drew me in and was an amazing experience that I believe has helped me become who I am today.
      I really don’t care about the Sonic games anymore, but the deep lore the games had that I was introduced to as I was growing up really was special. I’m only now seeing they came out with a 2nd game, so guess I’ll try that.
      To see for the first time that other people didn’t like the game really makes me sad. There’s a creative vision behind the game that’s really beautiful to me. It makes me feel that a lot of people really are too shallow to enjoy some things.
      But if they manage to polish up the unfinished bits, I really do already like the game but then it’d be god-tier for me.

    • @VEE0034
      @VEE0034 Před 2 lety +1

      It would be a miracle to see an actual good Sonic game AT ALL tbh

    • @MichelStubblefield3356
      @MichelStubblefield3356 Před 2 lety

      @@Olivia-W
      It it okay to ask for help, y'know. I mean; Yeah, their storyboards are little to nothing... That's why SEGA went to Paramount in the first place.

    • @faitheaaron
      @faitheaaron Před rokem

      let’s hope that’s the case for Sonic the Hedgehog 3

  • @lantearia
    @lantearia Před 6 lety +500

    I've gotten a lot of flack over Shadow being my favorite Sonic character, because he's the 'edge lord'. Honestly, I adore anti-heros, because of the struggle they face, and the fact that they can be both good and bad, at the same time. Villians and heros are one dimensional, but, anti-heros feel real. That's why I fell in love with Shadows character.
    Thank you, Treesicle. Hopefully, others will see him for more than a black and red 'edgy version of Sonic' with this video, and understand his character more.

    • @crimsonbunnyscratch1332
      @crimsonbunnyscratch1332 Před 6 lety +5

      i liked jinx (from the original teen titans) and shadow at about the same time for the same reasons they're evil because of circumstance or it suiting their way of doing things but neither was just pure evil because neither wanted to be evil it was just kinda the way things worked out for them

    • @ub3rfr3nzy94
      @ub3rfr3nzy94 Před 6 lety +15

      I liked shadow and SA2 the best because the story actually took itself seriously. Is that so much to ask for nowadays?

    • @JaniacTheHedgehog
      @JaniacTheHedgehog Před 5 lety +1

      Ama Lani Infinite.

    • @hopoff9968
      @hopoff9968 Před 5 lety +3

      Shadow’s Black and Red design looks amazingggg

    • @saya2012
      @saya2012 Před 5 lety +2

      Im like you girl i LOVE Shadow

  • @orestis9575
    @orestis9575 Před 6 lety +391

    Shadow:"Im the prince of all hedgehogs!!!"lol

  • @mastervidxad5883
    @mastervidxad5883 Před 7 lety +535

    Insert Obligatory "Where's that fourth damn chaos emerald!?!" meme here.

  • @juubi249
    @juubi249 Před 7 lety +527

    I really think that - and hear me out on this one - they should make a new Shadow the Hedgehog game.

    • @ColeConCon
      @ColeConCon Před 7 lety +41

      I'd buy it

    • @tahaaak
      @tahaaak Před 7 lety +39

      I actually agree, Shadow is such an interesting character and I love his design and stuff and I think it would be really good

    • @elekkitty
      @elekkitty Před 6 lety +6

      maybe the new game will help him find his soul.
      cuz after all he is edgy and edgy people have no soul

    • @talkingcontroller9396
      @talkingcontroller9396 Před 6 lety

      Nick Cooper YES!!!!

    • @awasteofspace9703
      @awasteofspace9703 Před 6 lety

      give it a go i guess XD

  • @HiroHatake
    @HiroHatake Před 6 lety +98

    Shadow the Hedgehog: The Game was ahead of its time.

    • @illegal.argument
      @illegal.argument Před 5 lety +2

      It's kinda like undertale

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 Před 3 lety

      I mean the concept is but the game itself is a huge downgrade to Adventure 1, SA2, and Sonic Heroes

  • @rvbfan5866
    @rvbfan5866 Před 6 lety +147

    I agree it's pointless for shadow to have a motorcycle but come on it's amazing

  • @lucaswilson2965
    @lucaswilson2965 Před 7 lety +177

    I actually enjoyed the Shadow the Hedgehog game. One of my favorite games for the gamecube when i was young

    • @MysteriousStranger50
      @MysteriousStranger50 Před 7 lety

      Wow.
      You must have had really, REALLY low standards if that terribly designed "game" was legitimately your favourite gamecube game.

    • @Dark92323
      @Dark92323 Před 7 lety +32

      +MysteriousStranger50 Dude, chill. That may be your opinion, but that shouldn't define whether someone should enjoy a game or not. We agree to disagree, but no need for such unnecessary aspersions.

    • @twyxvolt668
      @twyxvolt668 Před 7 lety +11

      MysteriousStranger50 what got you so riled up?

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 Před 7 lety +2

      It is a pretty bad game but i had fun with it...... but then again i enjoyed Sonic 06 so i don't know whether it counts haha.

    • @SAsaiyajin
      @SAsaiyajin Před 7 lety +8

      MechaMinilla99 Yeah i also enjoyed Shadow very much. It wasnt a bad game it just wasnt wat people expected which was another sonic game but that isnt what ShadowTH wanted to be. As an rating it was a 7 atleast. besides that the story was great and kinda gave us our ansswers about Shadows origins.

  • @robert.mcdonald
    @robert.mcdonald Před 7 lety +488

    I like Shadow, IMO he is a metaphor for people who are confused about who they are.
    He is a character that is nice and friendly but then loses someone really close and watches die infront of him just because people were afraid of a project. G.U.N. barge in the Ark and ruthlessly kill everyone there, except Shadow, who gets sent to Earth. After this he grows a hate to mankind and plans for justice. But deep down, he is still has a big heart but is confused by what he went through and his hatered perspective of mankind, from those good and bad.
    He then decides to protect the Earth after remembering Maria's last words but theh suffers from amnesia.
    When he reawakens, he doesn't know whether he is an Android or the real Shadow, which puts him on the journey to find out who/what he is.
    He then is told of his promise with Doom and plans to keep this promise, if he is told his past. during the journey he finds out more about himself and what happened but still continues his mission. When the mission is complete and he is betrayed, he finds out that he is made from Doom's blood but was also created to save the world. After saving the world, he then lets go of his past and moves on
    After getting involved in an incident with Eggman, he finds out that humanity fears him and is doomed to be perceived as a villian, he even finds out that he is even betrayed by his friend Omega. But even with all of this he doesn't let this get to him, he decides, quote, " If the world chooses to become my enemy, I will fight like I always have".
    This is Shadow. He may seem nasty, cold-hearted, edgy and all because of his past but he is actually kind underneath all of that. He has matured who he is and won't let anyone change him. He helps the world out in the shadows and doesn't really care for anything else but he is in his own way a hero.

    • @TheKing-uu7jn
      @TheKing-uu7jn Před 7 lety +1

      Uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhnhhnh......ok

    • @greenmarvel5440
      @greenmarvel5440 Před 7 lety +30

      Robert McDonald nicely said dude nicely said

    • @evandeneault186
      @evandeneault186 Před 7 lety +7

      I guess G.U.N. Forgot how to No Russian properly. Shoulda hit the stasis tank with a 40mm grenade launcher to crack that thing wide open. My CoD addicted brain aside, damn good analysis. Well said.

    • @lpflowrider8619
      @lpflowrider8619 Před 7 lety +26

      Great Analysis there ^^ Its about we see great people like you commenting Sonic related content like that.really makes a difference. It make me hope that more people turn to more friendly natured discussions about Sonic rather than just bashing this franchise just because its popular.

    • @robert.mcdonald
      @robert.mcdonald Před 7 lety +23

      LP Flowrider Thank you. Sonic isn't a big part of my life but it was when I was six. I absolutely loved Sonic back then and am kind of catching up to it now.
      As for Shadow I really like his character. He was shown a really horrible side to humanity but is still able to see good in it and even though people may hate him, it doesn't bother him. I find that really inspirational and it motivates me in a certain way.
      Also that scene in 06 is just perfect.

  • @gabrielgaspar3156
    @gabrielgaspar3156 Před 7 lety +316

    If the world chooses to become my enemy, i will fight like I always had!
    -Shadow The Hedgehog
    :)

  • @TheIntimateAvenger
    @TheIntimateAvenger Před 7 lety +337

    Sonic isn't a one dimensional character. He forces himself to keep a positive outlook because he knows the effect he has on his friends. If he ever gave up or broke down his friends would do the same. Therefore, he always stays happy and upbeat.

    • @overdadeirojervoso
      @overdadeirojervoso Před 6 lety +24

      What? He even does that when he isn't around his friends.

    • @miniminininja538
      @miniminininja538 Před 6 lety +46

      *inhales* ALRIGHTY Sonic is positive all the time because... How to explain... It's more of a way to hide depression from everyone. Even himself. I do it with myself.

    • @HyperVegitoDBZ
      @HyperVegitoDBZ Před 6 lety +4

      So Sonic can't begenuinely strong?

    • @breakneckhighway5096
      @breakneckhighway5096 Před 6 lety +43

      The saddest people smile the brightest.

    • @NitroCrate388
      @NitroCrate388 Před 6 lety +53

      How have you managed to come to the conclusion that Sonic is depressed?

  • @danielmm8842
    @danielmm8842 Před 7 lety +126

    I don't think that Shadow the hedgehog the game was so awful. The multiple endings are coherent, as it is a choose your own adventure type of trip. And he is all of him LOL

    • @darthestar8791
      @darthestar8791 Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah. But it would've probably made people more happy if having to get all the endings was optional, not mandatory, in order to get the true ending.

    • @davidbeer5015
      @davidbeer5015 Před 2 lety

      I feel like, even if they were mandatory, the Last Story may have been better if it was a full path as opposed to just the finale.

  • @adelrayen6808
    @adelrayen6808 Před 7 lety +502

    I'm liking this streak of Sonic content
    Edit: just to point out that Shadow is the reason that got me into the Sonic franchise

    • @TheKing-uu7jn
      @TheKing-uu7jn Před 7 lety +2

      Me 3

    • @LuckiSir
      @LuckiSir Před 7 lety +5

      adel rayen Me too!! I like Sonic but Shadow is pretty unique

    • @shadowscar5491
      @shadowscar5491 Před 7 lety +5

      adel rayen same.:):)

    • @stickinittotheman1
      @stickinittotheman1 Před 7 lety +20

      adel rayen Agreed. I always thought this was the intention of 'Shadow The Hedgehog', multiple endings plus the true end.
      I genuinely like the game, and it's much more fun if you don't use guns (unless required for a boss).
      Great video guys, have a good day everyone ;)

    • @tonilynn0829
      @tonilynn0829 Před 7 lety +2

      adel rayen OMG, same!

  • @cemeek89
    @cemeek89 Před 6 lety +17

    I honestly liked the concept of multiple “false” endings. Beat the game once, your friend beats it and you talk about the different endings, see different points of view and play it again with a new mind set, getting the ‘truth’ at the very end

  • @Topdoggie7
    @Topdoggie7 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm very excited to see him in Sonic The Movie 3.

    • @quanlynch7763
      @quanlynch7763 Před 2 lety +2

      Same and silver

    • @Xxjack-09xX
      @Xxjack-09xX Před 2 lety

      I think 4 is enough

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Xxjack-09xX Three or four is fine. Silver is much later in things given we haven't even touched Adventure DX or other games before 06.

  • @wavemaster4891
    @wavemaster4891 Před 7 lety +151

    None of this was ever a secret, through each of the three games we see him evolve into the more perfect version of himself. Shadow went from just a vengeful perfect lifeform to one that sacrificed himself to defeat gerald robotniks monstrosity on the colony arc. Fighting harder than even Super Sonic as he gets pulled to earth and assumed dead. Then he wakes up with no memories and has lost all hate filled revenge persona as now he tries to reclaim another aspect he has lost of himself, his memories. And with ten different endings we get the perfect way to see how a fragmented being could react. With G.U.N.S. trying to kill him, it would be easy for him to join the invaders. With Robotnik trying to use him by claiming he's just a robot of the actual Shadow who died saving the ARK, you get ptsd of finding out your just a clone and should you just blindly serve him, or take over? With Devil Doom promising to give him his memories back and claiming to be his biological father we get daddy issues and memory lose (even more so). Now there are good people in each point that generally try to pick him up and put him back on track however an invasion doesn't give alot of talk time. So each way we see a soak sponged shell of a hedgehog reacted to his chaotic environment. In the end though being around Sonic enough along with many others (notably Rouge) to find enough of his own core values and interest to stand up and defend the planet against the invaders. Despite the military trying to kill him, Robotnik's army of his clones trying to do the same and his own biological father trying the same thing. Each wanted to control him, use him as a pawn, or out of fear try to outright end him for transgressions of the past he isn't aware of anymore. He fights back against everything that opposes him, while not trying to do what he views is the right thing. Normal people tend to be crushed under such burdens but Shadow didn't. He then learns he isn't a clone, he is the real deal and Gerald Robotnik planned to betray Devil Doom after he got what he needed from him. He just didn't count on G.U.N.'s invasion and Maria's death. Now saving the world a second time he has said good bye to his former self that wanted revenge and his past. He now looks to the future not chain to pass transgressions and joins the military with Rouge as a active counter measure against things that threaten the planet. In '06 (another fantastic story telling game like Shadow the Hedgehog), Shadow fights alongside Sonic and this time traveler known as Silver. where he inadvertly teachs him alittle bit of chaos control and sets him on the path to learn the truth of whats going on and to quit blindly following what others tell you to do. Thus leading Silver on the path to the truth about what destroyed the world in his time. Shadow and Silver then comes across a entity that goes about trying to kill the world. Shadow stops him but his image gets copied by the creature and it causes enough chaos that even though it was trapped in the future now. It tries to get Shadow to help him destroy the world by showing him that eventrually his own military turned on him and although he fought back he was sealed again in a contained frozen state as punishment. Shadow then brings up that he works with the current people in the world right now and he will fight against anyone or anything that turns on him. So if the governments did try to kill him he will fight against them all. So here we learn that Shadow truly is only acting on his own moral decisions and doesn't care what he is labeled as. He defeats the creature again this time removing his limiters to destroy all the clones that are spawning to kill him and his other friends. He then meets up with Sonic and Silver and attack the entity of the Imblis Trigger with all three going to super forms to fight it on three different fronts across all of time and space. This whole game brought Shadow to the closest version of himself to date. One that tries to do good but isn't blinded by or manipulated by others intentions. If that path brings him against the world, so be it. If that makes him idolized by the world like Sonic is, then so be it. However he is always himself first and foremost, no matter what gets in his way. Rather he has to be cruel or kind to do so, he simply is Shadow the Hedgehog.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 Před 6 lety +4

      Long story for Shadow's epicness.

    • @tomwolf785
      @tomwolf785 Před 6 lety +14

      Aiji Furupsu quite possibly the greatest quote I’ve ever read. Shadow is shadow. He choses whatever he wants to be. He’s his own identity, character, persona, he’s shadow.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Před 6 lety +9

      I like this quote but it really REALLY needs formatting. Reading bundled up text like this is painful.

    • @tomwolf785
      @tomwolf785 Před 6 lety +3

      Tappajaav yea it is but still, nice lol

    • @fouadthehedgehog7982
      @fouadthehedgehog7982 Před 5 lety +2

      Respect.

  • @didan3683
    @didan3683 Před 6 lety +68

    Shadow is basically the batman of sonic universe

  • @Hansenfmly
    @Hansenfmly Před 7 lety +17

    "Maybe in the future Shadow can make things more realistic?"
    Wait til you see him in Sonic Boom😂😂😂

  • @faithful_otaku7339
    @faithful_otaku7339 Před 7 lety +60

    Each playthrough has you start off in Westopolis because Shadow's game has a big focus on the butterfly effect where you start out from square 1 and your choices throughout the game shape the story and ending. Visual novels are known for doing this. I didn't mind replaying Westopolis 10 times because I knew that I had the power to decide the other 5 levels of my playthough. :P

  • @Geck0GC
    @Geck0GC Před 7 lety +82

    "Is shadow an android? The answer is no, I found that out over the phone."
    An Android phone!

  • @aeris44
    @aeris44 Před 6 lety +51

    Shadow wasnt completely alone. Rouge is the closest thing he has to a friend. Back to both of their introductions, he saved her in Adventure Battle 2 when he got a flash back of Maria, in a way reflecting having the same kind of compassion for Rouge as he had with Maria. And their relationship develops in Sonic Heroes, and from what I remember in Shadow's game she was the one most concerned with his safety.
    I really would like them to develop both of their characters since they both have been somewhat anti-heroes (before we knew Rouge was an undercover agent). But even so she still has a selfish side to her about treasure and what not. They are both the most interesting characters in the Sonic series to me, and if you couldn't tell: my favorites. :P

    • @315katty
      @315katty Před rokem

      Rouge is like Ada from resident evil. Shadow is kinda like Leon. Very similar character types.

  • @4137Swords
    @4137Swords Před 7 lety +46

    Oh my gosh I LOVED THIS VIDEO!!! You hit the nail on the head. Truer words could NOT have been spoken. Shadow has always been my favorite character in the series and was extremely interesting in the first few games he was in, and it was SUCH a diservice that he got shafted for being "too gritty and edgy" in favor of the classic, good feeling Sonic games of today. Like, Sonic Colors, Generations, and Mania are all great games, but as for story and characters? Not as interesting. I totally agree with everything you said.

  • @swiftmoon2402
    @swiftmoon2402 Před 7 lety +146

    His true identity maybe it's in the computer room

    • @burleynelson4263
      @burleynelson4263 Před 7 lety +43

      Maybe he shouldn't have left it sitting next to that damn fourth chaos emerald..

    • @girouettezx537
      @girouettezx537 Před 7 lety +6

      With the power of these chaos emeralds, he will blow this damn planet.

    • @Kingdom850
      @Kingdom850 Před 7 lety +3

      But that means he really is just a failed research experiment.

    • @the_blind_hearing6
      @the_blind_hearing6 Před 6 lety +2

      Swift Moon These sonic memes though

  • @MissHystic
    @MissHystic Před 7 lety +136

    I would definitely say Shadow is a good guy now, though not quite as clear cut as Sonic.
    The hero story of Shadow seems to be the "most" canon, with the last story being true canon.
    I would say Sonic and Shadow's perspective on morality are a little more alike though, Sonic does what he wants and what he believes is right and wont stop to argue and consider the other person's position/give a shit, this is just a lot more obvious with Shadow's more pessimistic nature.
    Though a thing that bothers me about Shadow the hedgehog is that it seems to contradict Sonic Heroes, Sonic Heroes showed Shadow gaining a friendship with Rouge and Omega and he doesn't seem quite as harsh as he did in the very beginning of ShTH.

    • @sonicgenerationsfan1
      @sonicgenerationsfan1 Před 6 lety +1

      I love your comment, but then sonic forces happened
      Now shadow is evil...I think.

    • @Joxshuxa
      @Joxshuxa Před 6 lety +3

      Going2Hell4Ever no

    • @sonicgenerationsfan1
      @sonicgenerationsfan1 Před 6 lety +1

      Joshi Yuuki I know, I made this comment before the game came out

    • @suedevelour9559
      @suedevelour9559 Před 6 lety +2

      Going2Hell4Ever he’s a Deadpool or Vegeta

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG Před 6 lety +2

      where do you get that idea? did you even play sonic forces. the only reason i can think of that you think shadow is evil is the first cut scene and not looking past that.
      that shadow is a copy. an illusion made by infinite. the real shadow still walked that line of good and evil. just kind of doing what he wanted to do as you could see in the episode shadow DLC

  • @Zeldalink15
    @Zeldalink15 Před 4 lety +27

    I remember about 10 years ago when I first saw Shadow The Hedgehog. I didn’t know it then, but that was my sexual awakening.

  • @jasons106
    @jasons106 Před 2 lety +5

    This video going to gain a lot of views for information about shadow after seeing him in the end credits scene in sonic 2. I look forward to Sonic 3!

  • @pahpa4321
    @pahpa4321 Před 7 lety +37

    Sometimes a hedgehog needs a gun.
    -Grant from Treesicle 2017

  • @benfrostproductions8096
    @benfrostproductions8096 Před 7 lety +298

    I hoping Sonic Forces is the true return of Shadow. The world seems a lot more desolate and less bright, so it would be perfect to bring back Shadow

    • @nicolegee3963
      @nicolegee3963 Před 7 lety +12

      Yaaaaasss that would be PERFECT! I hope so to!

    • @TheKing-uu7jn
      @TheKing-uu7jn Před 7 lety +4

      YEA!!

    • @meiketempel8430
      @meiketempel8430 Před 7 lety +7

      I know right. This kind of game is perfect for him

    • @mobiusstar9728
      @mobiusstar9728 Před 7 lety +12

      I agree. The atmosphere of the game really fits him!

    • @truthfuldrake278
      @truthfuldrake278 Před 7 lety +14

      sega said he wont be in the game...BUT in an interview the creator of shadow( i dont remember his name) they asked him "will shadow have a camio in the game?" and he said "wait and see"

  • @DragonBlueSpirit
    @DragonBlueSpirit Před 2 lety +7

    Who's here after watching the end of the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 movie? 👀🦔💙

  • @micaiahresgrowth2956
    @micaiahresgrowth2956 Před 7 lety +35

    *CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME WALK INTO MY MYSTERY*

  • @sponge7464
    @sponge7464 Před 7 lety +29

    Fun fact The Japanese SA2 strategy guide says that shadow was created a week before G.U.N took down the ark

    • @whynot6266
      @whynot6266 Před 2 lety

      So that means...he only met Maria for what, a week? And his love for Maria grew for a fucking week?! Damn bro 😂

  • @mann-nova9392
    @mann-nova9392 Před 7 lety +65

    I absolutely love this video. I've never seen someone analyze the game in this way and... it makes a lot of sense, actually! Starting to gain more respect for it? Maybe in a story sense, not a gameplay sense.
    Gotta admit that giving him guns and having a mission where you kill the president is still pretty odd.

  • @MistyShnekin
    @MistyShnekin Před 7 lety +8

    "Huzzah! I only have to play through Westoplolis 10 TIMES TO FINISH THE GAME!"
    XD

  • @acalexanderchannel9572
    @acalexanderchannel9572 Před 6 lety +147

    Shadow remembers me vegeta

    • @jojo_j3ovarnofficial6
      @jojo_j3ovarnofficial6 Před 6 lety +4

      SHADOW WILL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF VEGETA AND GOKU ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

    • @pandorasangel2747
      @pandorasangel2747 Před 6 lety +11

      Sonic characters have alot of parallels with DBZ which is why there's so many DBZ based theories on Sonic characters

    • @Isi3hz
      @Isi3hz Před 6 lety +1

      JOJO_J3OVARN OFFICIAL in DEATH BATTLE Vegeta handed shadows butt to him

    • @moonslunar2418
      @moonslunar2418 Před 6 lety

      AC: ALEXANDER CHANNEL Every character that is completely black like shadow, is legit evil. Holy crap

    • @Chill_lxrd
      @Chill_lxrd Před 6 lety

      AC: ALEXANDER CHANNEL that's why people say shadow is like vegeta

  • @chaosod2669
    @chaosod2669 Před 7 lety +60

    seeing this video makes me really want a shadow the hedgehog remake

  • @remythecat5608
    @remythecat5608 Před 7 lety +23

    But in the end, Shadow is the Ultimate Life Form who just wants to find his DAMN FOURTH CHAOS EMERALD.

    • @kazmur
      @kazmur Před 6 lety +1

      When a line of audio from a talking hedgehog becomes a meme.

    • @shadowthehedgehog612
      @shadowthehedgehog612 Před 6 lety

      Remy thecat YES I ALWAYS WANTED TO BUT SILVER IS NOT HELPING!!!!!

  • @ChrisLuigiTails
    @ChrisLuigiTails Před 7 lety +14

    Shadow The Hedgehog and Sonic 06 are the two best Sonic games in my opinion.
    + Shadow is the one who really got me into the Sonic franchise

    • @Olivia-W
      @Olivia-W Před 4 lety +1

      If Sonic 06 had more development time and one of their later builds didn't get corrupted... who knows. It could have been great.
      I liked 06's story, especially Shadow's. It was a nice finish to his identity arc.

  • @MelonTartVA
    @MelonTartVA Před 6 lety +7

    I loved your take on Shadow. I personally saw each ending as Shadow's mind processing his choices and where they would lead. So by the time he got all the chaos emeralds for the true ending, he had taken a route that felt comfortable for him and would provide less of a struggle so that he could get the answers he wanted.

  • @user-zo5ju8sy6l
    @user-zo5ju8sy6l Před 7 lety +61

    9:50 Shadow is France and that's the story you never knew!

  • @grenyena9190
    @grenyena9190 Před 7 lety +30

    THANK YOU! Thank you for making this video. I've been waiting for a video delving into Shadow's history.

  • @azazel_jv1636
    @azazel_jv1636 Před 2 lety +3

    Serious question tho: Where’s that DAMN fourth chaos emerald?!

  • @shadowaguadarrama7524
    @shadowaguadarrama7524 Před 4 lety +3

    I guess Shadow and I have a very bit of few things in common.

  • @theninjaofmusic
    @theninjaofmusic Před 7 lety +23

    It makes me sad how bad of flop this direction was for sega. Their ideas were for the most part fantastic, but just poorly executed due to terrible management.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 Před 6 lety

      You mean the last decade? I agree that Free Riders onward was full of mistakes & overall the worst time of Sonic's Career. Dreamcast & 4kids eras were great.

  • @TheShadowspear2
    @TheShadowspear2 Před 7 lety +12

    14:40-15:09 "A shadow of myself just who am I? A tragic mystery.. you could have left me here sealed inside the pod, no-one would ever know the chaos control! My true identity, the power that is me."

  • @vick8006
    @vick8006 Před 7 lety +12

    SHADOW IS MY FAVOURITE SONIC CHARACTER
    My top 3 favourites r shadow, silver and sonic

  • @NumbingDisasterAnon
    @NumbingDisasterAnon Před 4 lety +8

    I wish they have giving Shadow the lead another attempt. He is unironically my favorite Sonic character and out of all the characters he has the most potential to make a really great game and a really good story, his very character is about breaking the conventions we understand of a Sonic game (i.e. him using guns and vehicles as well as not staying railroaded to a true good or evil path AND using seemingly magical powers that’s not just some Super form). He deserves some more chances to give the Sonic series a finer point of game development and direction alongside the blue blur

  • @silvernick65
    @silvernick65 Před 7 lety +82

    Can you do one about silver, I need more information about him

    • @kraidslair2114
      @kraidslair2114 Před 7 lety +1

      Look into his comics.

    • @steeledcelestial2958
      @steeledcelestial2958 Před 7 lety +1

      Nick Paljusaj comics aren't canon my friend

    • @silvernick65
      @silvernick65 Před 7 lety

      TheDark Speeder what are you talking about

    • @lordhelixcooper6977
      @lordhelixcooper6977 Před 7 lety +2

      The Shining Comet but he's right comics are not canon

    • @kraidslair2114
      @kraidslair2114 Před 7 lety +1

      Damn,forgot all about that. That only leaves us with sonic 06 and sonic generations(if that counts)

  • @yukich6957
    @yukich6957 Před 7 lety +172

    The Story that a true Shadow-fan ALWAYS Knew

  • @HisAutisticKnight
    @HisAutisticKnight Před 6 lety +5

    While I didn't play the game as much as I would have liked, I loved the story and the concept of Shadow discovering his identity. It helped me relate with shadow during a lot of high school where I was asking myself similar questions.

  • @papyrusdisbelief460
    @papyrusdisbelief460 Před 4 lety +12

    In my opinion he’s a good guy he’s like a normal person doing what he thinks is right just like most of us would do he’s just trying to find who he is.

  • @bananaslama282
    @bananaslama282 Před 7 lety +19

    lets start a petition to make shadow the hedgehog remake and flesh it out like it was ment to

    • @kazmur
      @kazmur Před 6 lety

      Even though that definitely won't work, I still hope for a remake. :3

  • @rotomfan63
    @rotomfan63 Před 7 lety +56

    Wait a minute. If Maria is Gerald's grandkid. And Eggman is too Does that mean Eggman and Maria are cousins or possibly brother and sister?.

    • @MadaraUchiha-wu9rn
      @MadaraUchiha-wu9rn Před 7 lety +29

      David The Zetta Nerd Maria and eggman are cousins yes if memory serves me correctly it's in the manual of sonic adventure 2 battle

    • @dylanwilliams9513
      @dylanwilliams9513 Před 7 lety +7

      their cousins and shadows technically part of eggmans family

    • @stealthyarcher1382
      @stealthyarcher1382 Před 7 lety +10

      yup cousins. i originally thought Gerald was the father of eggman and eggman was the father of maria

    • @juubi249
      @juubi249 Před 7 lety +1

      David The Zetta Nerd Cousins.

    • @mardraa08
      @mardraa08 Před 7 lety +2

      David The Zetta Nerd brother and sister

  • @movedaccounts4194
    @movedaccounts4194 Před 6 lety +10

    YOUR KIDDING ME...
    IS SHADOW SLEEPING BEAUTY AND EGG MAN PRINCE CHARMING???

  • @nils_perahia
    @nils_perahia Před 5 lety +6

    "Why break the mold?" Because this is the only way to get free.

  • @fer23super
    @fer23super Před 7 lety +291

    Silver The Hedgehog please

    • @kraidslair2114
      @kraidslair2114 Před 7 lety +19

      No matter how bad I want my favorite hedgehog to get a revamp, new powers, playability that can mesh well with sonic, and treesicle to make a vid on him...It cannot happen. We don't know enough from the games to just analyze his character. Sure there are comics where he gets several whole arcs but thats not the main point here.

    • @lessthanbonnie8814
      @lessthanbonnie8814 Před 7 lety +4

      SansHD_Gtopia I don't like silver, but I would like to learn about him more

    • @robert.mcdonald
      @robert.mcdonald Před 7 lety +8

      Sure we can, he is from a destroyed future who is on a mission to save the future and is manipulated by Mephisis to actually help that future happen. There is a lot that can be said about him, even if he is only in one game. Besides, this video is almost completely based on the game Shadow The Hedgehog.

    • @fer23super
      @fer23super Před 7 lety

      Robert McDonald I agree with you So please Treesicle i would love to see a Silver The Hedgehog Video Thank You for the awesome channel you have and keep being awesome!

    • @hikawagetsbitches
      @hikawagetsbitches Před 7 lety

      SansHD_Gtopia
      i want it 10 times more edgy!

  • @OpalEssenceOfficial
    @OpalEssenceOfficial Před 7 lety +6

    "Sometimes, a hedgehog just needs a gun."
    Me: I'm lovin it already..

  • @ghostwarrior3878
    @ghostwarrior3878 Před 5 lety +8

    Honestly before seeing this I always thought Shadow was a clone of Sonic. And I always kind of liked his character seeing as how he was kind of mysterious and I didn't know much about him but now hearing this I kind of have a newfound respect for him I think it's kind of fascinating

  • @litstudioentertainment7539
    @litstudioentertainment7539 Před 6 lety +43

    He's basically the Sasuke of the Sonic Universe😂

    • @sonicsucks20
      @sonicsucks20 Před 6 lety +7

      Both of them derive from Vegeta basically.

    • @Tuddyowo
      @Tuddyowo Před 6 lety +1

      LitStudio Entertainment he's vegeta

    • @Jarrell444
      @Jarrell444 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Tuddyowo no no. He was Vegeta in the Boom series

    • @handrandomizer
      @handrandomizer Před 4 lety +1

      More like vegeta

    • @danielledoeswhat
      @danielledoeswhat Před 4 lety +1

      Does that make Sonic Naruto? I mean, he’s Goku already.

  • @gabrielcrawford2967
    @gabrielcrawford2967 Před 7 lety +15

    Holy mother of pearl, HE'S RIGHT. Life is just like that, we all have our own destinations in our journeys, and in that sense, we all have the power to CHOOSE our own ENDING. Wow, SEGA has really outdone itself, and we didn't even know that this game was TRYING to send us the message of what choices life gives us, how we make them, and where it takes us. Bravo SEGA, 12,000 thumbs up from me to you and to Treesicle for helping me see it.

  • @Just1KB
    @Just1KB Před 7 lety +44

    i hope Shadow makes an appearance in Sonic Forces!

  • @alithia2264
    @alithia2264 Před 7 lety +2

    I expected some weird conspiracy theory but instead got a nice analysis of my favourite Sonic character.

  • @bsperoz
    @bsperoz Před 6 lety +60

    I keep thinking of...DEADPOOL, another famous anti-hero.

    • @mr.mmackey1516
      @mr.mmackey1516 Před 5 lety +1

      Brian Jr Spero yeah their red and black too

    • @medamusomod6311
      @medamusomod6311 Před 5 lety +5

      Vegeta deadpool punisher red hood sasuke and .. shadow are all anti heroes

  • @BunnyShine090
    @BunnyShine090 Před 7 lety +79

    I swear I just played throw sonic adventures 2 and sonic said the following "goodbye shadow the hedgehog" same as shadow quincidence I think NOT

    • @BunnyShine090
      @BunnyShine090 Před 7 lety +2

      why are you hating?

    • @BunnyShine090
      @BunnyShine090 Před 7 lety +1

      The Shining Comet. ok that's not a reason to be mean .everybody makes mistakes ok

    • @AshToons1738
      @AshToons1738 Před 7 lety +5

      SonicXgamerD's gameing XD lmao, he isn't being mean. You just can't spell

    • @JaredThe
      @JaredThe Před 7 lety +3

      The only textual errors I could detect is adventures instead of adventure (minor) and coincidence was misspelled, which is difficult to spell anyways (why is it a c? Why not a q? Idk), as well as through. Though you might want to give punctuation a try (.,?!), I've seen much worse, this is the internet after all

    • @BunnyShine090
      @BunnyShine090 Před 7 lety +1

      Jared foxy perhour - alpaca king at least someone is ok with this

  • @peterparker1683
    @peterparker1683 Před 7 lety +4

    Despite his flaws, Shadow will always be my favorite Sonic character

  • @zerrierslizer1
    @zerrierslizer1 Před 3 lety +2

    Shadow: "holds an MP5K and loads a magazine into it"
    Also Shadow: "proceeds to pump it like a shotgun"
    me and countless other gun fanatics: *excuse me SEGA, but what the fuck was that supposed to be??*

  • @psychosaito6282
    @psychosaito6282 Před 7 lety +8

    This is one of the BIG reasons Shadow is my Fav

  • @Meljinn
    @Meljinn Před 7 lety +54

    When you realize that Grant has a tree fetish.

    • @gamejitzu
      @gamejitzu Před 7 lety +4

      Well, he is TREEsicle
      exposed

    • @chowkwongcheong1752
      @chowkwongcheong1752 Před 7 lety +1

      +Gaming Sensei He's Grant, Treesicle is 4 people.

    • @vj3137
      @vj3137 Před 7 lety +7

      Wait, so he's the Lorax?

    • @KingLuxion
      @KingLuxion Před 7 lety +1

      He does spout a random lumberjack fetish in their Halo video.

  • @alexis-04020
    @alexis-04020 Před 7 lety +22

    DO SILVER THE HEDGEHOG!

  • @MichelStubblefield3356
    @MichelStubblefield3356 Před 2 lety +4

    I really like Shadow's backstory,
    as I do relate with his trauma...
    I seriously hope Paramount and
    SEGA do Shadow's original story
    justice.
    I know and understand that not
    everything takes place in the
    same universe, making room for
    more different variants with
    different backstories, but I
    would personally still like to see
    Shadow's original story in the
    following threequel...
    What about y'all?

  • @Darksonic786H4S4D
    @Darksonic786H4S4D Před 7 lety +3

    You actually make shadow the hedgehogs story sound good!

  • @Arcad3n
    @Arcad3n Před 7 lety +259

    Don't you mean
    *_EDGY THE EDGEHOG?_*
    Edit: Nice suggestions, OW THE EDGE and EDGY THE HEDGY work as well.

  • @Ryleeman54number2
    @Ryleeman54number2 Před 7 lety +39

    You left out information in Sonic Heroes

    • @Ironpants57
      @Ironpants57 Před 6 lety

      Shadow finds himself not an android In Shadow the hedgehog. Sonic Heroes shows that Shadow might be an android. Though this can be alternate worlds. I mean, take a look at Legend Of Zelda story line franchise.. Could be...

    • @nathandegroot6490
      @nathandegroot6490 Před 6 lety

      Rodger Davis hes not, bit maybe he was trapped to make androids of him.information

  • @illegal.argument
    @illegal.argument Před 5 lety +2

    Undertale: can I copy your homework?
    Sega: sure but change it up a bit do nobody notices
    Undertale: **sans phonecall**

  • @JustfeelinGrim
    @JustfeelinGrim Před 6 lety +3

    1:00 *I aM tHe mOsT pOwEeRfUl EdGeHoG iN zA wArUdO*

  • @vexium8127
    @vexium8127 Před 6 lety +5

    I my opinion the ending was really perfect.

  • @JRSmileyFace
    @JRSmileyFace Před 6 lety +4

    Sonic 06 was amazing wth great mechanics, Good gameplay, beautiful cinematics.

  • @statx2841
    @statx2841 Před 6 lety +2

    God dammit, the intro already won me over lol

  • @darlenebecker4497
    @darlenebecker4497 Před 6 lety +4

    Tell me about it. I imagined myself a character so I can be closer to Shadow, and so I can be related to him and Sonic.

  • @kb990
    @kb990 Před 7 lety +14

    Honestly the series as a whole wouldn't be struggling so much if they put as much thought into developing sonic characters as you did putting together this video. The sonic adventure era of storytelling needs to come back because the boost formula sonic is mediocre in gameplay but would feel better with a unique story. I get the feeling that sonic team has forgotten the strength of SONICS TEAM which they consistently half use to half explain why sonics (traveling planets and helixs in the sky) instead of just agreeing upon whether or not his planet does or doesn't contain human life. I digress, it's like they make him run fast and put a few levels and bosses in his way for the sake of saying yay sonic had another adventure. Knowing full well we still want sonic adventure 3. i admit I'm a sonic fan who's been spoiled by his early rise and watching his separate but equal fan base tear each game to shreds. I just want the characters to be characters and not colored talking animals that do things with powers sometimes.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 Před 6 lety +3

      Someone actually understands that the Storytelling needs to be good for the series to recover, that the characters actually need to return to who they were before they were reduced to being 1 Dimensional Carbon Copies in 2010. As for the Human life, there's a popular theory that the games take place in 2 main worlds, The Anthro World (Mobius), & The Human World (Earth), & that they are often transitioned between. Humans are rare on Mobius, while Mobians are rare on Earth essentially.

  • @PinBallReviewerRepairs
    @PinBallReviewerRepairs Před 6 lety +6

    What if Shadow was Sonic in an alternate universe?
    Muahaha! >:)

  • @Reginald12
    @Reginald12 Před 7 lety +24

    The love for France is real. #PeaceforParis

  • @MezzahFR
    @MezzahFR Před 5 lety +3

    The endings so emotional😂😂💔🔥

  • @teneos3143
    @teneos3143 Před 7 lety +9

    Blaze is the most realistic and relatable character Imo.(Irony much)

  • @HydesDumpster
    @HydesDumpster Před 7 lety +5

    Honestly, I like "Shadow the Hedgehog" the game. I'm not saying it's a good game, but it's not as bad as everybody says, even dough the way to unlock last story is teribble, but regardless, I think that you still can enjoy this game. 😉

  • @gabrielmarroquin8741
    @gabrielmarroquin8741 Před 7 lety +11

    Shadow is bad ass

  • @Astroni800
    @Astroni800 Před 5 lety +1

    "Snacks on: Anything but chili dogs" - you just killed me XD
    It was worth of watching for the second time. Thanks. I still love him.

  • @TheYokoloko
    @TheYokoloko Před 7 lety +62

    Just because 06 is wildly considered a bad game doesn't mean you should ignore what it did for Shadow's character development. Most say Shadow had the best story in that game and at the end of his story he had his most badass moment yet, where he finally REALLY accepts himself. I feel like it was meant to be the conclusion of his character arc. You know, until SEGA made everything that happened in the game meaningless.
    Hell, even Sonic showed some traces of being an actual character in 06.

    • @kingkmtso5107
      @kingkmtso5107 Před 6 lety +3

      Truth
      Yeah but since Solaris was destroyed at the end the whole story got reset meaning none of it happened

    • @thewazupdude90
      @thewazupdude90 Před 6 lety +8

      Well there could still be some traces left i mean in the ending Elise had a small "hey this feels familiar" feeling when sonic ran by so it could happen to everyone else like suddenly remember a fucktard of an adventure with beastiality, cringey lines, some cool moments and a we did so much and none of it happened feeling! But more seriously maybe they could remember chunks of the deleted timeline.

    • @NightDreamer37
      @NightDreamer37 Před 6 lety

      THANK YOU

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 Před 6 lety +6

      Then ironically Sonic started an era in 2010 that was so bad, that people started to realize 06 wasn't nearly as bad as was originally believed. Free Riders was the worst Sonic Game ever made, then you can tell that Sonic Team wasn't really trying with Generations & Lost Worlds. Then while Boom happened (which had 2 games worse than 06), Sonic Team put all the effort they placed into those 2 main series games into making Forces.
      06 was epic, even though it would have done better as a movie than a game. Shadow's Story actually had Mephiles foreshadow that someday the world would become Shadow's enemy, revealed Omega's purpose as a failsafe against Shadow, & was better written than any story the games have had since Pontac & Graff started writing for 2010 games onward.

    • @PlayPodOG
      @PlayPodOG Před 6 lety

      woah woah woah. generations was an amazing game. and lost world though forgettable wasn't bad. there has been more good sonic games then bad ones. 06 and boom are the only actual shit ones.

  • @karinaleonardmccoy6727
    @karinaleonardmccoy6727 Před 7 lety +3

    I think I appreaciate shadow the hedgehog more. Thanks treesicle

  • @cloudstrife3074
    @cloudstrife3074 Před 2 lety +2

    I love a lot of the cast, but Sonic and Shadow have always had a special place in my heart.

  • @adrianngregory
    @adrianngregory Před 3 lety +1

    The way shadow was done in the 2006 game was probably one of my most favorite ones. Mature and awesome.

  • @Smackmate
    @Smackmate Před 7 lety +15

    I LOVE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG NOW EVERYBODY SHUT UP THE GAME IS OKAY

  • @Mephilles13
    @Mephilles13 Před 7 lety +30

    tbh I think Shadow's story was the best in Sonic 06. His story introduced the most amazing villain the sonic universe ever had imo and I hope in future games he will be playable as a character telling a story where we have no damn clue if what he is doing is right or wrong in the end.

    • @chilly456
      @chilly456 Před 6 lety +2

      Mephilles13 yeah I agree that shadows story is the best in 06 not just for story reasons but also gamplay reasons.

  • @mr.mmackey1516
    @mr.mmackey1516 Před 5 lety +2

    Wait. Gerald Robotnik is Eggman’s grandfather and Maria’s grandfather...so... Maria is Eggman’s sister?!(or cuisine)

  • @crimsonzone8984
    @crimsonzone8984 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The story you never knew was the Japanese dub of Shadow the Hedgehog. Shadow did remember his past, but he didn't like it. he buried his past and leaves it all behind for a new life. A new Shadow the Hedgehog, who now follows his own decisions and do things by his own choices and not because of others.