Paris - Roubaix 2024 Preview | Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast
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- In this episode Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen preview both Men's and Women's Paris-Roubaix 2024.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:06 Parcours overview
00:05:20 ASO adds ‘chicane’ before Trouée d'Arenberg
00:15:00 Last years’ edition
00:16:30 Favourites
00:22:20 Startlist
00:32:05 Early breakaway, dark horses and picks
00:40:51 Women’s race - Route
00:42:30 Women’s race - Last years’ edition
00:45:00 Women’s race - Startlist
00:50:52 Women’s race - Favourites and picks - Sport
Aussies: wake up, watch the replay of women's ... Do Sunday things... Watch the Men's from 7:05pm 🎉
HYPE
The hype is real.
Yesssss benji love u and Patrick, last time you greeted my mom :D
Dude, you gotta record an emergency podcast after the tragic 4th stage of the Itzulia!!
@@nikiniki7176 As a Remco and a Jonas fan, I'm devastated.
@@nathanphillips4027same, it was shocking to watch
I can positively confirm that "Dege" had gone through very serious secret "crash" training during the last couple of months. So the plan is to sneak in the alpecin-train and kick both leaders out one after another in a very sophisticated way, a blend of ruthlessness and elegancy , that will show he had learned his lesson from the last episode from 2023🤣
just as I wrote this he posted on Insta that he crashed on the recon, not sure he Starts lol
I have no problem with the chicane. Everyone is like "they'll just crash earlier" but the peloton doesn't crash in every corner whilst they do crash every time they fly onto bad cobbles at 60kph.
And if they crash due to the chicane, it's at 25% the speed they would crash on the cobbles. The chicane looks very narrow though, I'll give you that.
I like the cobble races for the skill and power, not for the lottery of crashes.
Plus the riders themselves requested it
Yeah but if the train treck is wet, whole ploton will crash
Max Walscheid Top 5. He was super strong in Flanders and Roubaix fits him more.
Ah, good pick.
Would be awesome!
Great pick. He's also a a wheelie god (See TDT wheelie contest in 2022), so if he just wheelies the whole Trouee d'Arenberg, there is no risk of his front wheel collapsing.
called him to win at the Team Jayco AlUla 2024 Preview, stand by it!
“Playing bookmaker’s advocate” is my new favourite Benji phrase
Merch request. I would be nice if you could buy LRCP bidons!
yeah
One of my fav races. Thanks for the preview!
as a proper spaniard (we watch classics and enjoy them without understading them, our minds are made for gc racing), i have absolutely no idea about lazkano's bike handling skills
This was a really great podcast guys - well done
Rain is expected, so maybe cyclocross riders should be considered even more as favourites. In the discussion of PR femmes only CX skills of Backstedt were mentioned, but probably this also favours Vos and Brand (Benji's pick)
Looking forward to both races. Last year's women's race was one of my favorite one-day races of the year
my favourite part of the women's race last year was when they rode through the arenberg section.
Honestly my favorite one day since Amstel 2019
Beji’s voice always goes up 3 octaves in the last 5 minutes of these pods when he and LR start arguing
they call it Aremberg trench for a reason.. you go down in it
For me, the weather/muddy race is the biggest variable. The forecast I saw for the women's race shows good weather, if that holds, Lotte Kopecky is going to dominate. Redemption for the race from last year plus sending the statement that despite not being fully dominate this year, she is the best overall classics rider in the world. I would love to see Zoe Backstedt break through for a Top 10.
The forecast for the men's race I saw showed a chance of rain and colder. If it rains and the cobbles are muddy I would not make a call on the winner, too many random variables with the mud. If it says dry, MvDP is obviously a favorite, however, my call is for Christophe Laporte to have an inspired win and show that Visma is not dead despite all of the setbacks the team has been having this Spring.
You guys chose the wrong day to not do a basque country recap
The mano a mano between Tschmil and Museeuw is the best Roubaix i have seen and i am a Museeuw fan.
Surprised they didn't bring up speedbumps before the train crossing 🤣
When we need LR the most about The Basque Country disaster crash, they are offline! :(
The Arenburg is a self fulfilling prophesy. Because there is always a crash, and there is no easy way around a crash, you have to be at the front, so they leadout and fight for position, travelling too fast so there is always a massive crash.
With the chicane, how many teams will say, "no need to lead" out because less risk of crash and less likely to be fully blocked. So it will come back together.
Guys, keep an eye on an up-and-comer Paternoster for a high finish. Podium and top-10 recently....
Tarmac is the word you are looking for.
Absolutely correct -- that chicane will suit MvdPoel best and still he regards it a joke -- that says all !
For guys like Docker, Gaumont, Museeuw, van Baarle... It was no joke to spill blood on the cobbles.
Aussies will always remember Robbie McEwen "Hayman is back"!
If WVA can't win I hope Mads does
MDVP is the favorite, but this is not a course that plays to his strengths like Flanders does so perfectly. His power on steep cobbles is unmatched and very difficult to neutralize. The versatile sprinting types should be favored at Paris-Roubaix. But luck will have a lot to do with the outcome…so many crashes.
There's an additional downside to being MvdP, no one really wants to work with him. Perhaps he doesn't need it, or he'll get into a group with a few riders that believe a top 5 spot would already be fantastic.
But that's one major downside of how good MvdP is. At RvV he can make the difference as he most of the time can put serious distance between himself and the others on the hilly cobbles.
Really weird to listen to this pod whilst reading about the huge Basque Country crash overnight :(
Degenkolb keeping his powder dry for Sunday. I like how he moves in silence with these opening salvo of classics races.
After all thye horrible crashes we've witnessed the last hours/days/weeks, I do hope to get a crash-free Paris-Roubaix. Riders will not be allowed to go faster than 5 km/h and must ride on tricyles.
Bitumen, Benji! Denk aan de bitumineuze voegvulling tussen de betonplaten ;-)
Most changes of any sort suit MvDP. He is so much better than every one else at most things.
How likely is it that Jonas Vingegaard will be fit again before the tour?
@48:40 you know you're a full degen when you know exactly which mountain LR is referring to
no reaction whatsoever to yesterday's stage?what happens.. you guys are ok?
So basically they made it sketchier, got it, good job UCI
18:00 Aren't the odds based on money placed on an individual rider; the more money is bet on a rider, the shorter the odds. So if, for instance, Tim Merlier's mum decides to bet $10 000 on him winning then he becomes the favourite. The odds are not a direct assessment of the chances of winning, are they?
Yep, correct 👌
What about Fem Van Empel?
She is my pic.
I wonder what the American kid Sheehan can do here.... He won Paris-Tours out of nothing last year and was 13nd in Flanders last weekend.... Roubaix should suit him better because there are no hills in it.... He could be one of the biggest surprises here this next Sunday..
Benji you could make your bed up before the podcast😂
He's sick, probably back to bed after. Give him a break
women skipping Trouée d'Arenberg is a disgrace. Major part of the race missing
Benji not knowing what bitumen is? Even LR knows about the Bitumineuze voegvullingsmassa! I can't believe you would do Renaat dirty like this.
Re: the Philipsen - Pedersen odds, at times bookies shorten odds if there has been heavy betting on a rider and they wish to reduce their risk exposure. Hence you often see popular riders at significantly lower odds than their actual chance of winning. Same thing for other sports.
You are absolutely correct- the odds are not a prediction of the likelihood of winning
@@royc6508 Indeed, they reflect the spread the bookies need for a positive return.
At this point in the race (Arenberg) the winner will come out of one of the breakaway groups in front of the peloton. MvdP will be in them and the new obstacle will make no difference on whether he wins the race or not. He doesn't crash on cobbles anyway.
MVDP did not like the change but with his positioning and cyclo-cross skills, he will be the first one on the cobbles and then attack with a fully stretched peloton. I just fear what can happen in the fight for positioning as they approach the railway crossing.
Most guys chose weight over safety last year. No lining in tyres and almost no slime!
Why are the first reactions to safety concers always Route or Rule Changes. Why do we never talk about the fact that for same reason the UCI finds it totally ok to send riders into 100 km/h decents without any protective gear? Motorcyclicsts are mandatet by law to wear more protective gear than procyclists despite them sometimes hitting the same speed in downhill sections
No Paris-Roubaix Femmes for Elisa Longo Borghini according to Cyclingnews.
Who is Lucinda Brand? Dark horse if I ever heard of one. 😂
Meanwhile.... Mads.
If Mvdp goes off the front with 50km I will throw my phone through the tv
bling has never ridden PR.
Great analytics but my OCD just want to make your bed
He's sick. Bad to bed after
jordan petersen would be proud of you if u did.
You guys are nuts to not pick MVDP!
Its kinda the unwritten rule. You can't pick the out and out favorite. If you get it right, then there's nothing special about that. More interesting to pick someone else to think would win if the clear favorite did not win.
agree, but it's different if money is involved!@@Adanteh
this turn is really going to mess things up
Longo Borghini not doing Roubaix
Benji no one should see under the duvet.
It's going to be MvP, barring accident or illness, 3 of the top 5 were taken out in the crash yesterday so no real rivals as in the T of Flanders.
God, i loathe LRCP previews..... FUCK! I meant the opposite.
I am all for riders safety, but that chicane thing seems silly.
hope it works.
No ELB, so not really looking that good for Lidl.
OMG, this corner? We set at that sector every year. If you specifically watch the sector every year the crashes are honestly minimal. last year was the first year of big crashes in a long time. They’re going to be going in to the burg at 0 mph. I honestly thought this was a troll. They’re going to be going 45 miles an hour to zero. That feels way more sketch. So troll. The race is going to split coming out of it. 100%
This U-turn is gonna be a fucking disaster.
I think this is a very open race for the women. A lot of the top riders skip this race and no teams are really that strong as a unit.
I do not see why Lidl Trek would be so strong here. ELB will not race, nor will Van Anrooij, and they are the only two riders that have been good in the harder races with strong fields. I would not know why Balsamo is up there, Van Dijk has had a great return butane has said herself that she is not anther best level yet, Sanguinetti, Hansson and Backsted are usually not really relevant in big races. So I thatonlyleaves Brand as a real favorite for me. SD has Kopecky, I see Wiebes as a bigger threat than Balsamo and at the moment probably Majerus is still above Van Dijk and Markus should be OK here too, though obviously their relationship with this race has not been great.
Vos would be the biggest favorite for me, she has the technique, the shape, the brains and the sprint to win it. But if anything happens to her like last year her team is a problem, especially as it looks as if Van Empel is not here.
There is a lot of other great individual riders like Pfeiffer Georgi, but given the relative weakness of the teams anyone could win it.
kopecky's shape is a big sus after her ronde performance. for me, vos is the clear favourite. but her team's not so strong so i'm hoping lidl will provide her with some 'tug buddy' services.
where is the rvv vid??????
Live section
These guys (probably salty belgiums) still underestamate vd poel. Nobody can follow vd poel when he goes all out on the cobbles. (Only van Aert butt he is not there). And he Will not wait untill the last 25 km. He want to get rid of phillipsen also.
It's pronounced ass-fault.
Dear gentleman, modern carbon frames are not suited for tehe cobbles.
Cobbles need other materials. In the Museeuw times lots of steel frames and alloy frames was used for the natural damping characteristics of steel and alloy. Not that there where no failures in the materials, but more forgiving
That just isn't correct. Carbon fibre is 5 times stronger than steel, that's a fact. In an up and down motion (what cobbles are essentially), carbon fibre will also damp vibrations WAY more than an alloy/steel bike. As long as you keep the rubber to the floor, it's actually the perfect material for a race like this.
@@AJCCycling stronger yes and no I do not know the emodulus of carbon (it’s a composite). But carbon by de the fiber layup is directional. These days, engineering in the layup has reached an limit where on some frames you beter not sit up on the top tube.
Carbon fiber bike you use for stiffness, and that is somthing you want to avoid. You want flex, that flex gives you dampening characteristics is all axis instead of unidirectional because of the fibers.
@@beeldpuntXVI Why would you sit on the top tube? 🤷♂ Carbon fibre bikes are used for both their stiffness and their damping properties. You want a material that is stiff for when you pedal and the bike goes side to side, so you don't lose energy to flexing of the frame. You want it to flex longitudinally so the (up and down) movement gets damped. That is the only area you want a bike to flex.
@@AJCCycling dampening is losing marginal energy to get energy out of the system, so it doesn’t fail. And the cobbles you need to have this characteristics from every direction (omnidirectional), if you know Flemish cobble are round, not flat, you have loads from the side, carbon is good unilateral just one from the front to the back. When your toptube is that weak, your bike is to weak, espesially on cobbles, some incidents will happen, you cannot controle
@@AJCCycling Absolutely. I have ridden both the aluminium and carbon versions of the Orbea Terra (mid spec gravel bike). And I learned that a good carbon bike is actually (much) better at absorbing shocks than the corresponding aluminium bike. Not sure how steel would fare, but steel is so heavy I don't imagine it having a place in cycling this day.
2023 woman's edition was as many commentators have said the best race - men's or woman's - of last year. The fact that the breakaway won, that it was just 9 seconds from being caught by a large group 2 including the favourites, that Jackson just dogged it out pulling the lead group when no-one wanted to push, the SD Worx rider marking the break splashing out in the velodrome and then the sprint. The improbability of the win for Jackson and the breakaway was highlighted by the attitude of the race commentators to them.