Fight Club: Strap Locks vs Strap Buttons!!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:16 Irrationally Emotional
01:17 Gibson Strap Buttons
02:06 Grolsch Washers
04:00 Bolt Snaps
04:30 Dunlop Strap Locks
05:08 PRS Strap Buttons
06:04 DiMarzio Clip Lock Straps
07:06 Vinyl T Strap Buttons
07:52 Standard Strap Buttons
08:29 Schaller S-Locks
09:26 Oversized Strap Buttons
10:56 Compared Close Up
12:29 Sum Up
a 13 minute video about strap buttons? thats how you know this channel is legit
LOL. I did say right up front I was gonna geek out hard! Haha!!
So few people giving brutally honest opinions - even about gear they sell. Keep this up. Really like all the videos you do a lot. Thank you.
Keeping it real for my homies. :)
Feathered and lethal!!! :)
I watched a whole video on strap buttons. and I liked it.
I was just thinking the same thing. 😁
But which sound the best? We need a side-by-side tone comparo!
on a guitar with Nitro or PU finish?
25 years of gigging and thousands of gigs with Dunlop Straplocks and never had an issue. Love the channel.
I bought a Gibson ES-35 in 1982 and I've been using the same Dunlop strap locks with the same leather strap this entire time.
Schaller locks. There is no other
Pfffft......planet waves for me. Full snoot mode.
Aaron: "...on the biggest, heaviest guitar there is."
Me: Eyes my acrylic Warlock.
LOL....I stand corrected!
@@warmoth to their benefit (or perhaps mine) BC Rich shipped it with oversized strap buttons.
LOL, shots fired at the Grolsch fan boys. They are totally like a cult on the forums.
For the PRS, why not a washer or spacer? I like the T-shape, just watch them. The standard Fender I tie a piece of rawhide string onto it, works great. My fave. Hate the Shallers. I use mostly #10, it's a Dunlop without the straplock.
Two beers for free with your purchase, bro. Two.
Nobody would mention those washers if they came with preparation H.
Love the beer but never tried the washer
Yes, yes, 1,000 times yes! Couldn't agree more about the elegance, simplicity, and functionality of the oversized strap button. They look good, too! You nailed it, Aaron!
I’ve been using Dunlop strap locks for 30 years and never had an issue.
25 years here. I used the Schallers first but got tired of tightening them all the time. Dunlop's are really the best there are.
20 years. They have that satisfaction in Clic that Schaller doesn't. Being use both for 20+ years, and never had an issue.
I have had the same Dunlop on my strap for 15+ years. Love it, but good point about the spring...might be time to retire and replace, probably with another Dunlop...I love em!
Springs have never given out. Can't find a negative at all with the Dunlop design.
Me too. 30 years of heavy use on my Yamaha and 10 on my Smith.
They never fail.
I've been using the Dunlap strap locks for years....never had an issue, but excellent, well thought out comparisons....thanks!!
This was way more informative than I thought it was going to be :D
I don't mind the Dunlops at all. I've been using them since the 80s and never dropped a guitar. I didn't know about the 'oversized' ones though so I might try some out. Thanks!
Yep, since the 80's for me as well. I've NEVER had an issue, but I do clean and lube them annually.
@@Rico_G Me too. A tiny drop of 3-in-1 oil every year
Same. Convenience, and the added benefit of extending the horn fulcrum point, for neck heavy instruments, will keep me a diehard user on every bass I buy and build.
The dunlop dual-loks have the oversize button but will still fit the other part of a strap-lok. You can buy buttons seperately. I use the dual-loks myself. I don't share his concern about failure.
Little known fact the Dunlops locking mechanism is a copy of the USMCs sniper rifles sling mounts .Depending on accessories they can weigh 20 lbs in the field. Good enough for the Corp good enough for me . Never had a failure.
The Dunlop Dual Design strap locks stick out slightly farther than others so you can use them as conventional strap buttons in the event that you lose or forget your lock-equipped strap. I have Dunlop Dual Design strap locks on the basses I gig (including a Warmoth Deluxe 5 J) and have never had a problem. I love that they allow the strap to swivel as you move. I use Fender-branded "Grolsch washers" on another bass. They were tough to put on but do a good job. So long as you don't mind leaving your strap on, they are a pretty good (and cheap) option. I still believe the Dunlop Dual Design lock is best, but your criticism is completely reasonable.
Schaller strap locks on my electrics since mid-90’s. Love them, and when I was gigging with multiple guitars - essential for quick change. Thanks a million for presenting the redesign !!!! I’m going to pick those up now. Love this channel, dude your the perfect spokesperson.
Your top 3 have been my top 3 for a while, now! Keep on making great content, sir!
Just to say thanks to sales department. These guys kindly took quick action on my request. I appreciate your work an customer service, even with a small thing like a strap button. Thanks again!
You are definitely not full of it. Many beginners should watch this video instead of watching guitar reviews. So in depth and thoughtful. And I use schaller s locks on my les paul, but I'm now considering getting the oversized strap buttons on my acoustic. Thanks for the video!
We need more guitar channels like this one. So much of what makes a guitar work for you are these fine details that have so much to do with feel, things you don’t realize until you’re living with a guitar on a day to day basis. Also, the Gretsch straplock is an interesting solution as well.
Thank you for another excellent vid!! Really great insights!!
This is a great video; the details on all of the strap button options are spot-on! After decades of playing guitar and bass along with years of guitar tech work, my conclusions are pretty closely aligned to your video breakdown.
As an engineer....I live by what you stated in the first minute....i strive for elegance. Keep these vids coming!
I'd been using the Jim Dunlop Straplocks for 25 years, never a problem.
Thanks, Aaron! Great content as always. Now I have to go order a case of those over-sized buttons!
Wonderful review, full of common sense. Many thanks!
Great timing. I've been looking into all the different solutions, and...tada!
A latecomer here. I just saw this video about a week ago. Ordered one set of the oversized strap buttons, just to see if they were everything you said they were. Yes! They are! Within a 1/2 hour of trying these on my "go-to" Strat, I ordered another five sets for my other electric guitars. These are just what I hoped they would be: Big enough to keep the strap on without fail, easy enough to remove the strap when I want, and no more locks to get loose or rubber washers to fall off. Thanks! You've made me a fan and I'll be checking out your other vids over time.
Nice! I would never lie to you about something as important as strap buttons! :)
Really helpful. I was looking for one that does not protrude so much from the guitar, yet is secure. I learned of the oversized from your vid. Thank you!.
You nail it down 100% ,coming from a mechanical perspectives ,building cars 🚗, and starting my music 🎶journey, I picked the schaller's,thanks very much for the Gibson review lol 😆😄, my friend just replaced his with the schaller's locking 🔒😀😆his Gibson thanked him immediately 😀
I have been wanting to upgrade my strap locks for months now! My straps are “learning” how to slip off my guitar more and more lately and this video was perfectly timed for me. Thanks man!
New to channel, but liked and subscribed!!
I've tried several varieties, and you're absolutely right about the non-round ones always managing to unscrew themselves. I finally settled on the Schaller S-Locks about a year ago and haven't looked back; I like that unlike the DiMarzio straplocks, even if you forget your strap, you can still use any strap with them, they just won't lock. And, they're nice and quiet.
Agree on most accounts. I use Dimarzio, Dunlop, Schaller and Grolsch. Mostly whatever came on the guitar. I like the Dimarzio ones but hate the plastic clip bashing up the guitar. The Schallers are nice, but squeaky and I found that the part that attaches to the strap loosens over time, unless you really squeeze it (deforming your strap). It always rotates on me. I also don’t think the extra security is even needed. So by default my favorites are Dunlop. You can get them with buttons that also can be used with a normal strap.
Are you talking about the new quiet Schaller S Lock design or the previous one?
To be honest - I've used the Dunlop strap locks for 10 years on 4 of my guitars (plenty of gigging) - they've never even once looked anywhere near like failing...
The beauty of some sane and entertaining OCD 🤟🏻
A video like this was way overdue.Thanks Aaron!
This is the most important Warmoth video to date. I’ll fight you over it
Thanks Aaron. Now I know what to use on my new build.
Warmoth needs to make T-shirts of the YT channel avatar. Love the turtle with the orange guitar!
I'd buy one 👍
LOVE this... interestingly I'd moved away from the Dunlop straploks to the older Schallers and didn't know there was an update! That said... I love the simplicity and universality of the oversize strap button. You may have convinced me. And... great job acknowledging your biases while defending - quite intelligently - your opinion. There are many who might learn from that approach to what could become an otherwise cantankerous debate. Great job! Ah, decisions decisions...
Very informative video, Aaron. I like your opinionated but well-reasoned attitude. I need to replace some crusty old strap buttons and this info helps.
I found this subject way more interesting than I was expecting! I also prefer and exclusively use Schallers -for all the reasons discussed here. Thanks Aaron!
Great advice. Such a simple solution using the oversized buttons. Nice. Never like the bulky strap locks. Cheers.
I love the dunlops. The thing I like more is to change the screw to a better, very strong stainless screw that's a little thicker and longer. I like that the strap stays off the bodies, particularly on a collection of unorthodox, pointy guitars. I like that they keep the strap from chafing up the horns and body. Here's the from getting caught on the ends. And to be able to put all the screws and buttons in the guitars, and just have one strap that clickclicks to them all if I want is great. Or 2.
I don't see the springs EVER failing. I've used them for decades now. Never had a spring fail, or a clip come out.
he is taking about what he likes and what he don't, he's not talking about what realy works, I've use many different strap locks for the past 25 years and the dunlop's are the only ones that never fail
Excellent video. thank you.
Aaron, I have only been watching your Warmoth videos for a week or two but what really strikes me is your honesty and down to earth delivery. Considering CZcams has become a big series of advertisements, where everything people talk about is 'great', it is refreshing to hear your honest opinions - even where you feel that there are some better options than the stock Warmoth products. This actually makes me MORE likely to buy from Warmoth and I look forward to the day I can start a build with an order from you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, as it has become one of my favourite channels.
Thanks Tony!
I love the style of presentation on this channel. Very entertaining without being offensive to anyone. Btw I totally agree with the rundown. Oversized strap buttons on all my guitars too, albeit with DiMarzio clip locks fitted over them.
Great video, thank you for doing it!
I think you nailed it. Good job
Amazing breakdown well explained logic
I still love my Dunlops! If you forget your strap, any strap will still work with those buttons. Never had them fail nor heard of them failing. Also, if the way they stick out bothers you the button can be sunk into the body for a flush fit and the strap doesn’t stick out so far
I thought that design was nice to easily loop the cable through too. Never had an issue with mine.
@@Scott__C yes I agree. I like it for that reason too.
Thank you "a million times"!
Hallelujah, Aaron! Been touting these for years. But they were somewhat hard to find. Really glad Warmoth now sells them. Now I need another set for for ES-339. :-)
I just wanted to comment how comprehensive the video is and comments are healthy. So much information gathered for my guitars
Thanks Aaron. Expecting delivery of my 2nd Warmoth body and neck this month. Just ordered a set of the Schallers.
So incredible! The Strap buttons on my RG655 are of the almost same shape as the No.1. I once bought two pairs of Schaller S-Lock, one to replace the original simple buttons on my Performer Strat, and one for the RG655 which was yet on the way shipping to me. But after it came to my hand, I found these buttons so exquisitely crafted, that I finally give up the idea of replacing them. Now Aaron's opinion approved that it was such a wise choice!
I've never had a Dunlop fail me and they're on every bass in my collection (30 total). The 1" offset you mention is a plus! It allows neck heavy basses to have a more forward anchor & fulcrum point which helps tremendously. Also, at the rear of the bass, it allows room for the cable to be looped over without constantly rubbing the bass finish. And, I can snap any strap I own to any bass in a matter of seconds... no wrestling to get the strap over a button everrrr.
Interesting....I can see your point on the 1" offset helping with neck-heavy basses. Thanks for that little nugget of knowledge!
Warmoth Guitar Products my pleasure! I've used it several times. It especially helps on my US First Act Delgado. It's shaped like a Gibson RD.
Definitely agree with this! I've been using Dunlop for years and they are on all of my basses (13, so far). I had a Rickenbacker that came standard with Schallers and I honestly hated them. They're very secure when attached, but the removal process was always awkward for me.
Great video. Very informative.
Thank you! 100% agree with every statement!! Nailed it!
From my shooting experience, the push button locking systems are my favorite.
Dunlop flush mounts are my favorite. The flush mount puts the lock close to the guitar.
Push it in, listen for the click, pull to double check.
Between the dunlop and rifle slings, I have never had any failures across multiple units, and decade of use.
And if you want seriously overbuilt, install rifle sling mounts.
Interesting. I didn't realize rifle slings also used mechanical strap locks. I guess it makes sense!
Awesome more videos from warmoth my only choice for my bass guitar needs!
I agree man! I’ve bought Schallers however I’ll look into those oversized ones for sure too 🤙
I agree 100% with you! My next Warmoth purchase will include the oversize strap buttons!
Great content, it's such a small but important decision!🎸🎶
I stumbled across this channel while looking for a "surf green vs. seafoam green" comparison, and I LOVE ITTTTTT
Aaron, you're such a funny, amiable guy, explaining stuff so clearly and enjoyably; who do I see about getting you a raise?
I wasn't interested when I saw the new video title but god damn, the revised thumbnail is so freaking radical that I had to click. Good job.
LOL....thanks for the awesome feedback. Yesterday I was like "not many clicks....I wonder if I would get more if I did a really kick-ass thumbnail."
I've been using Schaller's Since the '80's, but health has made it hard to pull the grips. Making the oversized buttons look VERY good! Nice presentation, thanks!
Great video, thank you so much
I was rooting for the Schallers as you went through the list ngl lmao
I love them, so clever
You nailed it 😎
I have used the Dunlop strap locks since the early eighties. Never had a failure. I have played in bar bands and wedding bands all those years. I have a different strap for each guitar and it goes in the case with the guitar.
To each their own. I have had great results with standard buttons + washers, and my Schaller strap lock (old design) has come apart multiple times.
This was a shockingly honest, humorous, and well informed video about strap buttons. Thank you. I mean, who really wants their 3k guitar to slip away from your strap and go crashing to the ground?
My old Dean ML has strap buttons that are just like those "oversized" ones you showed last that it came with by default! They're a bit bigger than the buttons on my other guitars and mushroom shaped just like that (rounded outside, flat inside). I've always wondered why they aren't all like that, and didn't realize for a long time that most other buttons aren't like that! It's a far superior design.
Thanks for not overlooking the little things like strap buttons. It's this kind of attention to detail that I really appreciate.
I've been using S-locks, because I couldn't find anything that I liked that might be "better" in my opinion. I dislike the standard buttons for the same reason you mentioned, but don't honestly care for strap locks. I'm going to buy a couple of sets of the oversize buttons and give them a shot. Who knows; maybe I'll end up doing a full-fleet replacement!
thanks I just got my first Gibson les paul standard and I'm looking for a good straplock and I agree on your top 2 the redesign is what that lock needed I watched a video from 4 years ago and looks like they fixed the issue but I'll check more info on them👍🏻
Dunlop IS an oversized strap button with a strap lock built in as well. Also Dunlop makes x3 different buttons that accept their lock system one being a flush mount and it’s based on an aviation cargo restraint design so... Dunlop for the win
Glad to know my DiMarzio strap locks/clips choice are good. I'm not worried about forgetting my strap because I never take it off. I bought my strap lock when I was trying to get my band started and now I don't use anything else they just feel sturdy and reliable never ever worry about my instrument falling ever!
I couldn't agree more. I use the big Ibanez strap buttons. They are bigger than normal strat size, but not as big as those oversized ones. I'll have to try them out one day. Thanks, Aron!
My new guitar came with those Schaller S locks but haven’t put them on yet. Good to know I got something decent lol cool video and content.
I've always liked how my Ibanez guitars all came with those oversized strap buttons but I ended up swapping them out for Dimarzio cliplocks. Been using them for 25+ years and never had an issue. I keep the straps in their respective cases so it's not like I'll ever forget them.
Thank you for this!
I've been using Dunlop for a long time, and just "deal with" the extra length (it does eliminate some case/gig bag options). And I also use the older Schaller...
Have wondered about other options: Now I Know!
Love it! Thank you. I'm a huge fan of Dunlop. Used them exclusively since the 1980's with zero issues. I started with Schaller but they had a square corner on the strap part that cuts through the strap leather in time. I've also had the strap portion come unscrewed repeatedly. All that ended when I switched to Dunlop. Perhaps the new ones solve these issues?
I love the DiMarzio ClipLock. They’re pretty cheap, too, so you can buy multiples.
Strap button and metal spacer. This is life.
I've been looking at straplocks today after one of mine gave up on me. Very useful info
I've had my blue Dimarzio strap lock since I bought it in 1991. It's been to Hell and back with me and looks like it but it still works. The Schallers look cool, though. I might get some of those for my other guitars. Thanks for the shootout.
Great video man! Keep them coming. My 2020 Les Paul tribute has oversized strap buttons like your number one pick but they're not completely flat on the bottom, but they are pretty decent. They also look like they're made out of aluminum, or an aluminum alloy.
Me and a buddy walked into a guitar store about 15 to 20 years ago. the guys at the store knew me pretty good so there was never any problem walking in there and playing any instrument and any amp, so the guitar of the day was a Peavey Wolfgang. retailed around 5000 to 6000, had a 10 top carved quilt top dyed purple with mahogany body and maple neck. sweet guitar, and into a 5150 amp. was ready to rock, this particular model had schaller locks. borrowed a strap from the guys at the store. when suddenly the strap locks came unscrewed and face 1st the guitar smashed into the concrete floor. totally wrecked. Appologized for the incident they took responsibility , I will never ever use schaller strap locks... Didn't even get a chance to strum a chord or wank a guitar lick.. lol
"Suddenly" the strap locks came unscrewed? That sounds unlikely.
I've never used a strap thing out a guitar at a music store always sat down.....
Good to hear that my preferred strap system made it to #2 on Aaron's list.
I'm looking at putting some new buttons on a good portion of mine glad I got the name of them
Yes.. indeed. Huge problem. Great job!!!
Cool video. thanks
A well-argued case leading to the top two. Although I have Shallers, I am also a fan of minimalist design, and I haven't seen the oversize buttons before. I'm very tempted to buy some now.
Cool! Good info. I've got a set of S Locks that I've yet to put on my LP.
I agree with your assessments, though I did use Dunlops for years on my old LP Custom. They were the first ones I'd ever seen and I had no complaints.
It's a good thing we don't know each other. We think way too much alike. 😂
Schaller user here. Love them, still have older design on my guitars. Yes, they were kind of noisy, although it never really bothered me because the noise is easily drown out by the amp, but it's sure a bit noisy when you just pickup a guitar and play unplugged(let alone using them on an acoustic). However, the biggest issue they had (which they also fixed with the new design) was the nut on the straps getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nuts to prevent them from getting loose. No need for such "fix" anymore with the new ones. That being said, with any strap button, you still need to check from time to time if it hasn't came loose from the guitar.
The big advantage of a strap lock mechanism is the ease of taking the strap off and on, for when you want to switch straps or using the same strap of different guitar (personally, I have one strap for every guitar, especially since my guitars has different shapes and sizes, requiring different length adjustments), and most importantly, to store the guitar in its molded hard case, which usually don't have much room to leave the strap on. An oversized strap button is simple and works, but it's an hassle to remove the strap, and obviously, the strap holes tend to get bigger and bigger the more you remove and put it back on, making it less and less effective.
I'm just going to play sitting down from now on.
Great video. My preference is the Schaller type, and especially the new style with the bevel on the locking mechanism.
I had the old Schaller and nearly dropped my guitar, because the securing screw nut loosened itself. Looks like the new ones have a small locking screw inside of it, which solves this problem - but quite complicated. I switched to using Earnie Ball Strap Locks which have the locking nut on the inside which means the strap still holds even if it should loosen.
Aaron, I do like the oversized mushroom strap buttons. I had a couple that came on a Hamer Sunburst. But they are my number two pick. My number one pick is the Dunlop Straplok. I love them and put them on every guitar. Elegant design. Really work. And because of the way the strap buttons are designed, if you leave your strap at home, you can still use them with another strap in a pinch. The way they stand off of the guitar doesn't bother me at all.