My favorite part was Sooze inside of my childhood television. It would have only been perfected if that television was on top of an older, larger television, with more wood paneling.
HI Guys, I have just gotten the Tonemaster Pro and have come across the same issue with having effects after the deluxe or the twin. when I had put the effects in front of the amps like I would with a real tube amp the guitar tone did not change when you turned on the effect or off. Think about the Tonemaster Amps series that where released, the same software and program for them is in the Tonemaster Pro. All in all I do love this unit for ease of use and Fenders amp tone. Just like all the other units out there, not every unit suits the same person if that makes sense. You guys have a great day and I love watching your channel on all the gear stuff.
I heard the difference in tone between the amp sound and the amp sound with an effect. Seems like an easy fix. The proper tone is there for an amp. However a simple boost would seem to fix this 3 Decibel dip. There is room for 30 blocks of effects and amps so there is going to be a lot of interplay. As an example of signal flow, the Boss ME-90 has a flowchart for its hard-wired signal flow: Guitar to Pedal FX to Compressor/FX1 to OD/Dist to Send/Return to Preamp to NS to Foot Volume to Modulation to EQ/FX2 to Delay to Reverb to Amp. Basically 10 blocks apart from the Effects Loop. That's a lot if you use all blocks. I think most of the time you will be running 10 blocks or less. I always manually adjust balance between blocks until I get a balance across all blocks. I am expecting great things from Fender. When I use the Boss ME-90, the Fender amp choice is Twin Combo or Tweed Combo. So if I want a Deluxe, the Pro is gonna give me that and others and I can run two amps at the same time. When you guys ponder that the Pro is a home unit and not a pro unit, that's wrong. The Pro is primarily a stage unit just like the Tone Master amps. You are going to see the Pro on a lot of stages.
Regarding the tonal change when an effect is engaged/disengaged. Could it be because they modeled the effects a bit too accurately and that this is what the real effects do and how they affect the incoming signal? Is it really an issue when you bypass the effect? I mean, I guess I'm used to effects units having some kind of an effect on the overall tone and work around it accordingly. Yes, it's likely fixable via firmware. As for the amount of amps available, it's early days yet. If a year from now the situation is still the same then it would definitely be a concern. I just ordered one so I remain hopeful.
I feel like the lack of amps is fine. I mean between the Fender and EVH lines alone you pretty much have all you could really ask for texturally. Sidenote: if it could load profiles from other gear like Tonex etc. it’d be an out of the park home run.
No, I don’t think Finner is going to charge for additional stuff. I think that the other modelers have set the precedent that updates and additions are free, and Fender is trying to compete, so they would not do that and violate their customer base.
I think it is miles ahead of Line6 helix, or tone x as far as out of the box sounding good through an analogue amp or full range powered cab. Its hard for QC or Fractal or helix guys to admit theres something better coming down the pipe
Cool video! Thank you for the insight, in keeping it real. Yes at $1,700 that is overpriced. A tough pill to swallow. I would rather spend the money on a good used Fractal FM9. You clearly get more for bang for your buck. I like the clean sounds of the Fender, but the distortion/gain sounds? It's a mixed bag. The only downside of the Fractal is that it is a bit of learning curve on using it. I have the Headrush MX5 and I love it. I am thinking of upgrading to the Core or the Prime. I do have the POD Go from Line 6. I like that too. On the Fender Tone Master, if it were $1,000, maybe I would consider buying it. Fender makes the cleanest amp sounds. I think I'll stick to my Fender Mustang GTX 100. Thank you for posting this.
@@AngelMartinez-qs3cf I got it on ebay. It should arrive tomorrow! I hope it's better than my $300 worth Flamma FX150. To be honest, I am new and can't tell the difference between good and bad sound.
I'm about ease and quickness of use. The problem with skeuomorphic representations is it's often more cumbersome to rotate a knob to a precise value than to linearly move a slider or fader. And more than any other graphical value manipulation, I'd prefer to click on an area to open up a value editor and key in the precise values rather than jogging between values until I reach a precise one. The TMP does a little better than the QC by allowing parameters to be assigned to footswitches, but I would still rather have parameters be assignable to MIDI control changes for fully variable automation and like the QC the TMP is disappointing here.
@@ToneJunkieTV That Bassman is a better Guitar or Harmonica amp. Blkface, brownface, Silverface stuff. They need to Grow this Unit to interest. Dumble type/2Rock. Trainwrecks. I personally would like a Magnatone 440 and the Pitch shift vibrato, can they even do a Pitch shift vibrato??
I really like the interface on this thing. I think they need to improve finger detection on the screen, and the responsiveness of the UI. I will almost certainly get one of these to replace my Helix over the next couple years some time. I expect the "there's not that much in here" will improve drastically over the next couple years. The nice thing is that it supports IRs, so that can fill some gaps. FYI, the Helix often does the same thing with a bypassed pedal changing tone. There are a couple patches where I've removed a long string of 6-7 reverbs and delays that were all disabled/bypassed, but removing them massively changed the EQ of the output. There are definitely some bugs to address there.
I haven't noticed this on my Helix. Could you tell me how to reproduce this if you can? I would be interested in seeing this on mine for comparison. Thanks!
Based on the demos I have heard so far I think the fender cleans are good. Most of the more gained up sounds I have heard in other demos have not been to my taste at all. Though the gain tones you had here were good. The other issue is that fender does not have a good track record related to updates for digital gear. Hopefully fender sticks with it and improves it quite a bit over the next year or two. At this price point it is a definite pass for me. Side note it would be nice to show which models/cabs are being used in demos like this. Or if you are using any custom IRs.
As someone who is not a gear savy person can someone explain why Headrush Prime doesn't get more attention? Does it have an inferior sound even with the ability to take captures?
I’m a little confused, maybe it’s me? Shouldn’t the pedals be to the right of the amp? The whole interface seems backwards to me. All pedals have the input on the right, the output on the left. (Unless they are top mounted) Maybe I’m being too nitpicky lol
I've had and still have so many of the digital modeling effect boards and have found a small percentage that sounded great into a pa system or any amp effects return and the rest sounded very weird, thin with a hint of unnatural clipping The small percent sounded great and seemed like you almost couldn't get a bad sound from them no matter what I did when tweaking them It's a very bad sign when you've got to spend a bunch of time digging for a good sound and as you said you were back and forth with this device Love hate is a major Red flag especially considering the price The sounds I'm hearing here are not too great so far! I'm definitely passing on the Tone Master Pro
7:07 It’s this way on purpose. They modeled the entire pedal circuit including how it colors the signal with the mix set to 0. This is how the real pedals work. If you want no coloration from the pedal, bypass it.
So I thought that too at first but doesn’t happen all the time with the same effects, that’s what we were trying to show. We demonstrated it on two effects, the second isn’t a real pedal it’s just a hall reverb and when the hall reverb is on its own it doesn’t do that. But for some reason when adding the space echo after the amp the last pedal in the chain seems to do it also. John Cordy and Leon Todd have demonstrated it too but they did it with a deluxe memory man which I can’t seem to get to behave this way but they did. It’s some kind of glitch when certain effects are together in the chain and it only happens when effects are after the amp not before.
@@ToneJunkieTV Gotcha. My statement was based on what a Fender rep said on TGP, but yeah, wouldn’t make much sense for it to do that with a hall reverb! Hopefully it’ll get patched soon. I think this unit has a lot of potential, but it needs to do a lot of growing to catch up with its peers.
@@ToneJunkieTVthe hall reverb bypass behavior could also be explained by impedance interactions being modeled and changed. Hall reverb may basically be acting as a buffer, so when you engage or bypass it the dry tone changes. Sooze actually seems to be aware of this possibility. So might not be a bug, just the way they designed it… doesn’t make much sense for digital platforms though, I agree.
Finally tried one for a little bit at a store. Sure, I'll give it a slight edge over the/my HX stomp for amp-like tine, response and feel. But, it is not in the class of my Axe FX III Mk2.
@@jasonmcentire3541 My advice. First decide if you think Fender will commit to this and upgrade regularly. If so, then decide if you can live with what it comes with currently for at least 6 months, maybe a year. If not, and you want the huge selection of stomps, fx and amp models, go for the Helix. But the biggest advice I can give go with the unit and interface that works better for how you work? Is an easier interface, like the Fender, better for you, or do you want to be able to dive deeper and tweak more, like the Helix. On all these to tier units it really comes down to which is better fitted for how you work, and how deep you want to go. I went HX siomp for my small/fly rig because I already had a Midi pedal, and don't need presets as involved as the Helix can do more than the HX stomp. SO save a few bucks.
I feel the price based more on anticipated updates. All of these units start out week. Im sure they're waiting on feedback from end users to refine and tweak. Given we all use these type of units in so many ways
The Fender User interface is a 10/10 imo which is probably it's best selling point compared to others in the price point imo. If fender continuously updates and improves the sounds it can be the best out there, but right now it still has a way to go.... also not impressed by the Vox and marshall sounds at all :(
From a diehard Marshall guy and Axe Fx iii user, I think it does the few Marshall sounds very well. I like the Silver Jub better on this than the Fractal.
Ill take "could be better" with that UI and ease of use. I cant stand how clunky and over complicated modelers of the past are and why I never use them. I will absolutely get this and happily wait for updates.
Thabjs for doing the deno guys.... I think fender has a good idea here for a price of $500 but no where near $1699. I can get much better and more realistic sounds out of a boss GX 100 in minutes.... And at moment im a helix guy for the ease of use. That says something though. I mean a FM9 is only a bit more money with insane tones or a qc at same point with amazing tones... Maybe Fender will majorly update really fast idk
@@TheCyberMantis it really is I guess I didn't realize I missed it till we just talked about it lol 🤣 but yea the GT has more dynamic than all these new units. Long as you EQ right sounds amazing too
No way is the Tonemaster Pro a home unit, the price alone makes it a non starter for most players. The harsh reality is that as it is apart from the crazy price it has been released far too early, and clearly requires a lot of firmware tweaking to cure it's weakspots. There plenty of options from other brands that have established themselves with regular firmware updates. Leaving the price aside, no way would i buy one for at least 12months just to see if Fender admits it was released too early and does correct it's issues. For now i have enough effects units to keep me satisfied and original amps to prove that these effects units only give a taste of how good the real amps are.
the touch screen functionality looks a bit buggy in all the videos ive seen. doesnt look smooth. requires multiple finger presses. not accurate. im happy they made the switches encoder knobs. and there is a desktop editor that mirrors it. happy days. i really hope touch screens dont become the norm though. at least offer knobs. a mix is best.
The price is an issue for me.. Fender is a "Johnny Come lately" and the competition is thick, you can't be the "New Kid In town" charging the most money.. From the demos it's not on the same level as the Kemper, Axe FX or the $400 dollar Tonex unit.. If they had initially kept the price point down I'd be more interested .. most folks that like modelers already have one... It's gotta be something real amazing ... like better than what's already out there at a lower price to convince me to fork over another $1,800 to $2,000 !!!
Everything I've heard sounds like they failed on the Blackface sounds Give us a comparison of the Super Reverb to the real one I like the interface but the tones are meh The 5150 Stealth is closer than the Fender amps
Lol, the idea of charging extra for a "legends of tweed" or some other packs from Fender when this thing costs $1,800 is outrageous. Buy a Tonex for $400 and buy all the captures you want.
The amp tones genuinely aren’t better than the competitors, they’re all great but this really isn’t doing enough to set itself apart. It’s shiny and new and that’s why it’s appealing, but it takes more than a touchscreen and cool graphics to really set yourself apart.
My favorite part was Sooze inside of my childhood television. It would have only been perfected if that television was on top of an older, larger television, with more wood paneling.
🤣Mine was a Sony Trinitron. My dad used to tell me "That TV and you kids are the only thing I got in the divorce." 😂
Yeah, and one of the knobs was missing so you had some vise grips on there to substitute for the knob. LOL.
@@ToneJunkieTV 😂😂 Trinitron was high brow stuff back in the day
The irony of showing a digital modeler through a tube TV overlay is not lost on me.
😂
This must be the best review of this thing so far. And great job finding the right tones. you guys are king of tweaking.
Wow, thanks!
Just got it and I’m loving it. I’m really hoping fender runs regular updates
HI Guys, I have just gotten the Tonemaster Pro and have come across the same issue with having effects after the deluxe or the twin. when I had put the effects in front of the amps like I would with a real tube amp the guitar tone did not change when you turned on the effect or off. Think about the Tonemaster Amps series that where released, the same software and program for them is in the Tonemaster Pro. All in all I do love this unit for ease of use and Fenders amp tone. Just like all the other units out there, not every unit suits the same person if that makes sense. You guys have a great day and I love watching your channel on all the gear stuff.
If I was going to switch away from Helix I'd go to Kemper. I would not go to Fender.
Yup agreed
I heard the difference in tone between the amp sound and the amp sound with an effect. Seems like an easy fix. The proper tone is there for an amp. However a simple boost would seem to fix this 3 Decibel dip. There is room for 30 blocks of effects and amps so there is going to be a lot of interplay. As an example of signal flow, the Boss ME-90 has a flowchart for its hard-wired signal flow: Guitar to Pedal FX to Compressor/FX1 to OD/Dist to Send/Return to Preamp to NS to Foot Volume to Modulation to EQ/FX2 to Delay to Reverb to Amp. Basically 10 blocks apart from the Effects Loop. That's a lot if you use all blocks. I think most of the time you will be running 10 blocks or less. I always manually adjust balance between blocks until I get a balance across all blocks. I am expecting great things from Fender. When I use the Boss ME-90, the Fender amp choice is Twin Combo or Tweed Combo. So if I want a Deluxe, the Pro is gonna give me that and others and I can run two amps at the same time. When you guys ponder that the Pro is a home unit and not a pro unit, that's wrong. The Pro is primarily a stage unit just like the Tone Master amps. You are going to see the Pro on a lot of stages.
Regarding the tonal change when an effect is engaged/disengaged. Could it be because they modeled the effects a bit too accurately and that this is what the real effects do and how they affect the incoming signal? Is it really an issue when you bypass the effect? I mean, I guess I'm used to effects units having some kind of an effect on the overall tone and work around it accordingly. Yes, it's likely fixable via firmware. As for the amount of amps available, it's early days yet. If a year from now the situation is still the same then it would definitely be a concern. I just ordered one so I remain hopeful.
I was thinking the same thing!
I feel like the lack of amps is fine. I mean between the Fender and EVH lines alone you pretty much have all you could really ask for texturally.
Sidenote: if it could load profiles from other gear like Tonex etc. it’d be an out of the park home run.
The bypass difference is a major oversight. One to fix asap.
If they lower the price and add more amps. Could have a future.
No, I don’t think Finner is going to charge for additional stuff. I think that the other modelers have set the precedent that updates and additions are free, and Fender is trying to compete, so they would not do that and violate their customer base.
I think it is miles ahead of Line6 helix, or tone x as far as out of the box sounding good through an analogue amp or full range powered cab. Its hard for QC or Fractal or helix guys to admit theres something better coming down the pipe
Cool video! Thank you for the insight, in keeping it real. Yes at $1,700 that is overpriced. A tough pill to swallow. I would rather spend the money on a good used Fractal FM9. You clearly get more for bang for your buck. I like the clean sounds of the Fender, but the distortion/gain sounds? It's a mixed bag. The only downside of the Fractal is that it is a bit of learning curve on using it. I have the Headrush MX5 and I love it. I am thinking of upgrading to the Core or the Prime. I do have the POD Go from Line 6. I like that too. On the Fender Tone Master, if it were $1,000, maybe I would consider buying it. Fender makes the cleanest amp sounds. I think I'll stick to my Fender Mustang GTX 100. Thank you for posting this.
A new fm3 turbo is $1100. I got a used fender tone master pro for $1200.
@@JoonKimDMD Cool! Where on reverb?
@@AngelMartinez-qs3cf I got it on ebay. It should arrive tomorrow! I hope it's better than my $300 worth Flamma FX150. To be honest, I am new and can't tell the difference between good and bad sound.
I'm about ease and quickness of use. The problem with skeuomorphic representations is it's often more cumbersome to rotate a knob to a precise value than to linearly move a slider or fader. And more than any other graphical value manipulation, I'd prefer to click on an area to open up a value editor and key in the precise values rather than jogging between values until I reach a precise one. The TMP does a little better than the QC by allowing parameters to be assigned to footswitches, but I would still rather have parameters be assignable to MIDI control changes for fully variable automation and like the QC the TMP is disappointing here.
No Brownface, no bassman. Udates and upgrades will make or break it. UI is the best part. NO, at this price range. for too little.
There is a tweed batsman model, but the lack of brownface stuff is weird to me.
@@ToneJunkieTV That Bassman is a better Guitar or Harmonica amp. Blkface, brownface, Silverface stuff. They need to Grow this Unit to interest. Dumble type/2Rock. Trainwrecks. I personally would like a Magnatone 440 and the Pitch shift vibrato, can they even do a Pitch shift vibrato??
Does it come with AI so it can play my guitar for me?
I really like the interface on this thing. I think they need to improve finger detection on the screen, and the responsiveness of the UI. I will almost certainly get one of these to replace my Helix over the next couple years some time. I expect the "there's not that much in here" will improve drastically over the next couple years. The nice thing is that it supports IRs, so that can fill some gaps.
FYI, the Helix often does the same thing with a bypassed pedal changing tone. There are a couple patches where I've removed a long string of 6-7 reverbs and delays that were all disabled/bypassed, but removing them massively changed the EQ of the output. There are definitely some bugs to address there.
I haven't noticed this on my Helix. Could you tell me how to reproduce this if you can? I would be interested in seeing this on mine for comparison. Thanks!
Based on the demos I have heard so far I think the fender cleans are good.
Most of the more gained up sounds I have heard in other demos have not been to my taste at all. Though the gain tones you had here were good.
The other issue is that fender does not have a good track record related to updates for digital gear. Hopefully fender sticks with it and improves it quite a bit over the next year or two.
At this price point it is a definite pass for me.
Side note it would be nice to show which models/cabs are being used in demos like this. Or if you are using any custom IRs.
Great review with a honest opinion of this pedalboard, and a new subscriber here as well. 👍🏻
Nice! Welcome to the channel 😃
If Fender goes the route of making us pay for individual packs of sounds on top of the absurd price point, we’re all fucked.
The main Helix guy now works at Fender.
Ah interesting!
As someone who is not a gear savy person can someone explain why Headrush Prime doesn't get more attention? Does it have an inferior sound even with the ability to take captures?
Is that a U2 song at 1:45? Sounds familiar. Great video!
That section was jamming (not a song I’m aware of)
I’m more curious about the cab they released and how it would sound with a Kemper or quad cortex.
We are wanting to do a video on that soon
I’m a little confused, maybe it’s me? Shouldn’t the pedals be to the right of the amp? The whole interface seems backwards to me. All pedals have the input on the right, the output on the left. (Unless they are top mounted) Maybe I’m being too nitpicky lol
My thoughts exactly on the "legends of tweed-etc" packs. They gave us meat and potatoes and will charge for the rest
They are going to add a bunch more amps & effects over multiple (free) firmware update
@@KR-nc5be and this is confirmed?
@@54Offwallconfirmed
Glad it sounds decent, hopefully it improves over time!
I've had and still have so many of the digital modeling effect boards and have found a small percentage that sounded great into a pa system or any amp effects return and the rest sounded very weird, thin with a hint of unnatural clipping
The small percent sounded great and seemed like you almost couldn't get a bad sound from them no matter what I did when tweaking them
It's a very bad sign when you've got to spend a bunch of time digging for a good sound and as you said you were back and forth with this device
Love hate is a major Red flag especially considering the price
The sounds I'm hearing here are not too great so far!
I'm definitely passing on the Tone Master Pro
7:07 It’s this way on purpose. They modeled the entire pedal circuit including how it colors the signal with the mix set to 0. This is how the real pedals work. If you want no coloration from the pedal, bypass it.
So I thought that too at first but doesn’t happen all the time with the same effects, that’s what we were trying to show. We demonstrated it on two effects, the second isn’t a real pedal it’s just a hall reverb and when the hall reverb is on its own it doesn’t do that. But for some reason when adding the space echo after the amp the last pedal in the chain seems to do it also.
John Cordy and Leon Todd have demonstrated it too but they did it with a deluxe memory man which I can’t seem to get to behave this way but they did. It’s some kind of glitch when certain effects are together in the chain and it only happens when effects are after the amp not before.
@@ToneJunkieTV Gotcha. My statement was based on what a Fender rep said on TGP, but yeah, wouldn’t make much sense for it to do that with a hall reverb! Hopefully it’ll get patched soon. I think this unit has a lot of potential, but it needs to do a lot of growing to catch up with its peers.
@@ToneJunkieTVthe hall reverb bypass behavior could also be explained by impedance interactions being modeled and changed. Hall reverb may basically be acting as a buffer, so when you engage or bypass it the dry tone changes. Sooze actually seems to be aware of this possibility.
So might not be a bug, just the way they designed it… doesn’t make much sense for digital platforms though, I agree.
Finally tried one for a little bit at a store. Sure, I'll give it a slight edge over the/my HX stomp for amp-like tine, response and feel. But, it is not in the class of my Axe FX III Mk2.
You able to compare it to helix. I’m looking to get this or helix. So not sure what to get
@@jasonmcentire3541 My advice. First decide if you think Fender will commit to this and upgrade regularly. If so, then decide if you can live with what it comes with currently for at least 6 months, maybe a year. If not, and you want the huge selection of stomps, fx and amp models, go for the Helix. But the biggest advice I can give go with the unit and interface that works better for how you work? Is an easier interface, like the Fender, better for you, or do you want to be able to dive deeper and tweak more, like the Helix. On all these to tier units it really comes down to which is better fitted for how you work, and how deep you want to go. I went HX siomp for my small/fly rig because I already had a Midi pedal, and don't need presets as involved as the Helix can do more than the HX stomp. SO save a few bucks.
Disagree
I feel the price based more on anticipated updates. All of these units start out week. Im sure they're waiting on feedback from end users to refine and tweak. Given we all use these type of units in so many ways
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the FR-12 cab vs the Kemper Lab
Video coming!
The Fender User interface is a 10/10 imo which is probably it's best selling point compared to others in the price point imo. If fender continuously updates and improves the sounds it can be the best out there, but right now it still has a way to go.... also not impressed by the Vox and marshall sounds at all :(
The price is ridiculous.
Prices are getting out of hand across the board
The price of just one individual effect is ridiculous.
From a diehard Marshall guy and Axe Fx iii user, I think it does the few Marshall sounds very well. I like the Silver Jub better on this than the Fractal.
Need to check it out!
Ill take "could be better" with that UI and ease of use. I cant stand how clunky and over complicated modelers of the past are and why I never use them. I will absolutely get this and happily wait for updates.
Thabjs for doing the deno guys.... I think fender has a good idea here for a price of $500 but no where near $1699. I can get much better and more realistic sounds out of a boss GX 100 in minutes.... And at moment im a helix guy for the ease of use. That says something though. I mean a FM9 is only a bit more money with insane tones or a qc at same point with amazing tones... Maybe Fender will majorly update really fast idk
Boss GX-100 is great. And it's affordable.
@@TheCyberMantis it really is I guess I didn't realize I missed it till we just talked about it lol 🤣 but yea the GT has more dynamic than all these new units. Long as you EQ right sounds amazing too
No way is the Tonemaster Pro a home unit, the price alone makes it a non starter
for most players.
The harsh reality is that as it is apart from the crazy price it has been released far too
early, and clearly requires a lot of firmware tweaking to cure it's weakspots.
There plenty of options from other brands that have established themselves with
regular firmware updates.
Leaving the price aside, no way would i buy one for at least 12months just to see
if Fender admits it was released too early and does correct it's issues.
For now i have enough effects units to keep me satisfied and original amps to prove
that these effects units only give a taste of how good the real amps are.
the touch screen functionality looks a bit buggy in all the videos ive seen. doesnt look smooth. requires multiple finger presses. not accurate. im happy they made the switches encoder knobs. and there is a desktop editor that mirrors it. happy days. i really hope touch screens dont become the norm though. at least offer knobs. a mix is best.
Is that a Fender Custom Shop Strat or an American Strat?
Custom Shop
The price is an issue for me.. Fender is a "Johnny Come lately" and the competition is thick, you can't be the "New Kid In town" charging the most money.. From the demos it's not on the same level as the Kemper, Axe FX or the $400 dollar Tonex unit.. If they had initially kept the price point down I'd be more interested .. most folks that like modelers already have one... It's gotta be something real amazing ... like better than what's already out there at a lower price to convince me to fork over another $1,800 to $2,000 !!!
Everything I've heard sounds like they failed on the Blackface sounds
Give us a comparison of the Super Reverb to the real one
I like the interface but the tones are meh
The 5150 Stealth is closer than the Fender amps
What pickups are in the gold strat? They kinda look like SD Antiquities
Fender Dual Mag CS
It is nice but it seems overpriced by a fair amount. 🤔
Thought the same thing. $900 seems more appropriate
For some reason, it's way cheaper than the QC, Helix and Kemper in Australia. QC is about $500 USD more expensive..
Lol, the idea of charging extra for a "legends of tweed" or some other packs from Fender when this thing costs $1,800 is outrageous. Buy a Tonex for $400 and buy all the captures you want.
ToneX is for sure a steal!
I love it.. so nice.
👍👍
Pass
No BOSS VB2
ah - interesting omission
The amp tones genuinely aren’t better than the competitors, they’re all great but this really isn’t doing enough to set itself apart. It’s shiny and new and that’s why it’s appealing, but it takes more than a touchscreen and cool graphics to really set yourself apart.
I just want the Deluxe Reverb in a small pedal. No effects just the amp. This.... nah.
UA dream
Tonex with Amalgam’s FNDR BFSR 1965
I’ve tried pedals, kempers, helix’s, ect… and I still carry around a tonemaster amp. I just want that sound in a pedal.
No MATCHLESS !!
I know, it's kind of a big deal for me.
I'd buy an Axe FX2 any day of week or even better a Kemper than this over priced piece of junk
I'd have to agree... Nice concept for only Fender sounds but anything else so far sounds like junk... And the fender stuff sounds digital