Apple Watch Ultra: Scuba Diving with Oceanic Plus App 🤿
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- The Oceanic Plus app turns the Apple Watch Ultra into a dive computer, dive planner, dive tracker and more. We tested it out with a full day of diving in the Pacific.
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0:00 Intro
1:32 Pre-Dive Planning
2:36 Dive 1
4:39 Dive 2 & 3
6:08 Post-Dive Data
7:23 Snorkel Test
8:55 Final Thoughts - Věda a technologie
Thanks for watching everyone! Divers sound off: Apple Watch Ultra or standalone dive computer? If dive computer, which one? Let me know down below 🌊
The subscription model killed it for me, I prefer to use my shearwater computer that will last me more will cost less and will do way more including AI, Trimix ccr etc, let you choose gradient factors etc…. Besides shearwater you have garmin descent mk2i if you want a smart watch with diving capabilities
You always want a computer will not shut down at least 200ft, I case of a emergency you may need to get deeper. it Cozumel one of the best dives is to 130ft, but few divers exit deeper to 150ft if they are not putting attention,
Apple Watch Ultra: Never in my life.
Right now the best dive computers are the Shearwater Perdix 2 and the Shearwater Petrel 3. The Shearwater Teric if you must have a dive watch computer. The Shearwater Peregrine if you will only ever do recreational diving. The Garmin Mk2s if you must have a smartwatch/dive watch computer combo, and the Garmin Mk2i if you must have a smartwatch/dive watch computer combo that can keep track of your breathing gas.
I picked up an Apple Watch and used the “dive computer” as an excuse to buy one. The other features of the watch are nice, but I really want to use this for diving in Minnesota, and this seems like a good but not great all in one recreational diving watch.
Can the app track your location underwater using the compass and the entry point? or it just show the entry and exet points?
Great video! Thank you.
Been diving with the Ultra and Oceanic myself now for 5 months. Same issues mentioned seem to persist.
• Ending a dive with the dive summary mid dive. Oceanic can start the dive automatically, but please let me end it. Thank you very much.
I use my dive computer for the compass, navigation, deco calculations, safety stops, safe ascent rates, the whole 9 yards so to speak. A dive that prematurely ended mid dive at 35m(115ft) is catastrophic.
• Also, a one time indemnity is perfect, but asking me to confirm that “I am fit and ready to dive” every single time before a dive, is very cumbersome and unnecessary.
• Conservatism settings are not customisable enough and should allow more freedom.
• Scrolling with the Digi Crown is finicky but manageable. Unfortunately repositioning the watch over a wetsuit under water inadvertently scrolls the crown every time. I would prefer to rather utilise the side button to scroll through the screens one press at a time.
• I would also consider more functionality via combination presses. i.e. action button & side button pressed together could bring up a full screen compass and any press of action button or opposite button can return me to the “Home Screen”
•Make combination presses programmable to chose what you would like the command to do.
Altogether the potential of this device and future devices can be great, functionalities such as gas pressure integration, deeper than 40m dives, more freedom in conservatism settings & Trimix dive options will be amazing.
The bright screen is easy to read and the minimalist design is great for me (subjective I suppose) and for it to be a phone, daily watch, music player and so much more all-in-one is unreal, we are truly living in 2023.
But for the Ultra to be considered a real player in the dive computer market they will have to address the issues pointed out in your video and the bullets above.
I used an Ultra 2 for 6 dives in March 2024 and most of the issues are still there. In 2 of those 6 dives, I had to resurface immediately after starting the descent because it went into summary mode.
You can disable "Wrist Detection" if you know you'll be wearing the Ultra over a wetsuit, that way it won't keep asking you to enter the passcode
I believe that would remove any Apple Pay cards, is that right?
@@allenvanhellen2572 yes, but it’s just a toggle in the Watch settings. Not a major issue.
@@allenvanhellen2572 There is indeed a difference between switching off the wrist detection and deactivating the code. In the first case, Apple Pay is deactivated, in the latter case, the Apple Pay cards are actually removed. If you switch the wrist recognition back on, you can use Apple Pay again as usual.
@@allenvanhellen2572 And if you were using Apple pay while diving I'd be concerned.
Terrific breakdown of features and explanation of features. Beautifully shot and edited too. I felt like I was right there with you. ✨🐬✨!
Me: A Filthy Non American who thought the water being 56 degrees was pretty hot.
Haha. Yes. Fahrenheit is pretty broke… but we use it 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
For non-Americans (like myself), it's good to know that body temperature is around 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Forget that 0 degrees Fahrenheit is -18 degrees Celsius, and water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 degrees Celsius). I can't be bothered enough to work that stuff out.
😂 same thought 🥵
This is going to go over a few heads.
The freedom units are confusing
I bought this watch a couple of days before leaving for a diving holiday. I installed the Oceanic+ app. First dive: fantastic readability ! And the figures were all correct, compared to my Suunto Viper and Suunto Eos. But after 10 minutes, at a depth of 22 meters, the screen showed temperature icon and after another minute went completely dead. After the dive I tried hard reset etc, but it stayed dead. Is back to Apple now. Water temp was 26°C. I'm really anxious to know what their answer's gonna be. Luckily I always dive with 2 "real" Suunto dive computers, so I had my back-up.
I currently have a series 5 since February 2020 and I need to upgrade to the Ultra 49mm
At 56 degrees in the pool, I would have gone in with the wetsuit!
I've always wanted an Apple Watch that you can dive with. I've seen lots of criticism that "I'd never trust that thing" or other similar complaints. I'm old enough to remember diving with dive tables, so computers have always been a "nice to have" for me but not required. These days the prices have come down to the point that everyone should have one. One thing about the Oceanic+ app is that it will always get better with future updates. Many dive computers are the same as the day you opened the box. I think auto logging of dives to your log book is a great feature...no need to do any kind of weird syncing. My main problem now is that I already own a stainless Series 7 my wife bought for me last year...and I can't imagine paying another $800 for an upgrade so soon.
I can see using one as a backup computer if you already own the watch but not buying it because of the dive computer feature. And the watch would be handy if one ends up doing a spur of the moment dive with rental equipment without one's own equipment. Most people who end up using this watch as a dive computer will probably dive such simple profiles that the watch if overkill.
This looks really great for a casual diver.
It also looks like a good backup for more active divers.
I really wish there was a way to have integrated tank monitoring for a live update on my air.
Hopefully, that will come in version 2 of the watch.
These features, plus a lot of the hiking features, makes this very tempting for me.
I’m not a huge fan of the subscription to use the application. I hope other companies will be able to create their own apps that will be able to access all the watch features.
Thanks for a great video
Agree. without tank monitoring integration, this is too expensive for diving.
Truly excellent video and testing. Kudos for the 56 degree dive. Apple should make it optional to defeat the pass code nonsense during dives.
The first thing they must fix is stopping dive tracking when you exceed your MOD.
The second thing they must fix is the screen lock to use the dive app.
As soon as you are two feet deep, the dive app should activate automatically with full functionality and bypass the lock screen. All other apps and functions should remain behind the lock screen and be unavailable while submerged.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 that’s incredibly easy. The app is in beta and software can be tweaked at the drop of the hat. Mechanically it’s able to do everything that it needs. The only thing it needs is some polishing on the software and that will come with time and criticisms
Hey thanks , where to activate the snorkel mode please ?
I dove it about 50 times, it’s pretty cool and easy to use
A lot of dives in 3 months! On your way to 200!
I’d like to see air integration with a tank pod
Great job ! I don’t dive as much as I want, I still would like to dive with the watch !
Thanks for the tidy review. I bought my Apple Watch Ultra 2 for the health/fitness Apps & integration w/iPhones Apps. I've dove a few times last fall with the Apple Dive App and then this winter discovered the Oceanic+ App. I just finished a trip with eight dives and used it alongside my Shearwater Perdix (primary). I should say I always wear the Ultra 2 on my left wrist and the Perdix on my right. (BTW...just saw a video about switching to the crown on the left and that was my only complaint on the dives...I'll be sure to switch it now). I also have an analog air gauge on my left side clipped to my weight pocket (tertiary). I was really happy with the Oceanic+ and it was always exactly the same as the Perdix. I will say I loved the tap of the haptics for my settings as I can never hear my Perdix underwater. It made my diving all the more safe by helping me stick to my dive plan. Don't get me wrong I love my Perdix but if Apple would integrate air I would opt for it to be my primary. Also I did have a problem with the touch screen on the first dive while wearing a wetsuit but nothing turning off the Passcode didn't solve on the rest of the dives. It does warn you the Apple Wallet cards would not be available but until they start taking Apple Pay at the dive/wreck sites I figure I don't need it. Just make sure to turn those back on when you finish diving for the day if you want to use them. I love it and the Watch face for adding the dive information including the flight one. I have one high pressure outlet left on my rig Apple... let's get that air integration solved please.
What was the little handheld camera? Was it a DJI Action in a dive case
Does it calculate NDL for repetitive dives and surface interval time?
Thanks for posting, I’ve just ordered the Apple Watch Ultra 2 and will be using the Oceanic + app and I’m really looking forward to go diving with it, this has a lot of features I’ve been after in a dive computer, not to mention everything will be integrated into the app which makes logging dives easy also getting the fun information from your dive easy. Other thing I like in my Cressi Leonardo switching from air to nitrox and sorting other settings can be a pain, using the app it takes seconds.
I can’t wait for the watch to arrive and go have some fun.
I find reversing aWatch to have the crown toward my arm side, and turn the crown with my thumb is way easier
I like how you jumped in without all the bs .
Also, how did the ocean strap stand up against wetsuit compression? We know if my compass or computer is on a strap it’ll go loose, so I strap up with bungees instead!
I don't do subscription apps. Is there a one-time purchase app that does dive computing?
I’m using the Garmin descent MK1, do the Apple Watch allow to mark some point when returning to surface ?
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Since its a monthly subscription plan its a hard pass from me as a dive computer. My old D6i can transfer logs to cloud, has wireless pressure sensor and works great. Hate that I cant recharge it. But if I had to upgrade the Garmin Descent would be a far more better choice with pressure sensor, quick sync of logs and add GPS coordinates to dive locations. I have a lot of backup devices like analog pressure gauge but no dive computer backup for now since I dont do tech dives or complex dives.
Can the ultra use the maps app underwater for navigation?
Guys, should I get me the ultra now or should I wait 4 the second one? Any big spec bumps 2 come regarding dive features?
I am a big Apple fan and was eager to see the review. For me, the pluses: bright screen; long battery life; the post-dive data summary with easy integration into other Apple products; more visible warnings than most dive watches; vibration warnings. Cons: Don't want to have my attention absorbed by having to enter a passcode or flip screens during a dive. Overall, I don't dive frequently enough to justify buying the watch. I will continue to rent a standalone dive computer. If I did dive more I would still have an issue with the passcode and the need to rotate the crown. Better to have a press button instead but best of all is no need to engage with the watch at all with my hands.That is something to minimize for any piece of scuba equipment.
Can you change it from ft to meter and f tou celcius??
By the end of next year the word of mouth around this watch from the dive community will make this a hit
I'm not totally sure about that - limiting it to 40% nitrox means its not really scaleable for a new diver and unsuitable for more advanced diving as i don't think it has OC/CC trimix functionality or even the ability to monitor deco strength nitrox mixes (50%+)....this is the right device for holiday resort divers who intend to dive annually...although the annual subs would say otherwise.
@@AndrewBradfird it’s beta software.
@@AndrewBradfird and yes it does deco
@@F0xSH0X1 BETA? I'm not sure I want to hear that as a diver. I want to hear something a little more along the lines of its robust/well tested/complete
@@F0xSH0X1 yes, it can 'do' deco for a dive less than 40m but it seems unable to enable deco gases...in other words it can't cope with nitrox mixes usually associated with proper deco procedures, typically 50%, 80% or 100%.......40% isn't really going to help for accelarated deco and would have you on a different profile to a buddy using a full spec computer (such as a Suunto/Shearwater etc).
Thank you for the review! An Apple Watch as a Dive-Computer is very appealing to me.
The size and price tag are a bit large for my taste. Dealbreaker is a subscription fee for an advertised feature!
Hi, Apple Watch Ultra 2, can it read how much gas I have in the bottle only with the Oceanic app?
My immersion is not synchronised with my watch to the application. What to do?
Thanks for the review. IMHO, air integration is a must, as is addressing the lock-and-passcode issue.
From my past Apple Watch experience, the passcode is complexly optional. It does eliminate the use of the wallet app tho.
@@kanon0853 It is, but assuming you want the code the rest of the time, this needs to be addressed.
The passcode is overridden as soon as you submerge in water and it goes into dive mode with or without the passcode. Assuming you have enabled it to auto-launch which it prompts you to do when first launching the app. But yeah no A.I. unfortunately. I have yet to use the air integration with my shearwater, but I plan to eventually. It does work quite well though, the screen is awesome underwater.
Disable wrist detection to avoid passcode requests.
Looks cool, but Id rather just use one thats purpose made for diving. Plus I spent a lot on my perdix 2 lol
I had to returned after 2 days of usage due to auto dimming issues, I can't see the text and gps in dark environments.
I would love to be able to drop a pin at the boat anchor.
i'll be patient for next gen for sure
This was cool
I need this , but its very expensive for me ...
56F is around 13C.
Here in the SW of England, that’s warm waters for us. 😂
HI Guys. I've an Iwatch Ultra, and to be honest, i'm afraid to put it in the water or sea water. Could share with me if is it necessary extra care after put it in salted water? I'm not a diver, but i swim on sea and surf , and would llike if is really secure to use it and need to do extra care after finish the swimming or surfing sessions. Ty
This is the FIRST product I’ve seen that brings the software subscription sickness to the Apple computer community.
Did you notice a huge battery difference. Wow I did.
All diving computers for spearfishing and freediving as have three main functions
which this type of divers is using
dive time
surf time
and deep
on Apple Watch ultra is two apps for diving
Depth
and Oceanic+
both don't have surf function.
is it difficult to do like all normal diving computers or because it's apple its not possible ?
What's next how many times I take a leak? These small updates aren't worth upgrading from my Series 7. I have the Series 7, SE and I did have the series 6 but the back glass broke so I threw it away.
Hello
I am a costarrican diver, I am very interested, thank you for your explication.
I'm obsessed with my Apple Watch Ultra - best tech purchase I have made in recent memory.
How?
Thanks for the review. It is way too complicated IMO and I think a diving tool should be simple and most importantly does not frustrate me while diving.
I had an important difference when a did a Deep Dive (30 Mts); between my Sunnto Eon Core and my Apple Watch ultra I had 5 minute in No Deco Time. I think is much
Hopefully, apple watch ultra supports free diving mode in the future
ill stick on my shearwater mate!!!proper divecomputer...ill compare them soon
This 100%. Very happy with my Perdix AI. If I didn't have one already, and had to choose any dive computer including the Apple Watch Ultra, it'd be a Shearwater 100% of the time, and either the Perdix 2 or Petrel 3.
Cool 🎬
Mmm I might take it with me for kicks and pretty graphs but it absolutely would not replace my dive computer yet. Some of those experiences you had could be downright dangerous if not lethal in a challenging dive environment
No way to add your own existing logbook entries, no way to export the logbook, makes for a bit of a non-starter.
I had one for a about a month and for two dives, it was awful because it was always distracting me which made me feel insecure and unsafe.
Great review😀
Muito Bom
Yes
Should the ultra be worn under the wetsuit or on top?
Adventurous types: Needing more than one day battery life from an Apple watch.
Can we read or text messages, some one told me if the phone in in the boat , it till send message down to 130ft?
That won't work. Wifi, BT and cell signals are all significantly attenuated by water. Like trying to shine a light through sand. If that wasn't the case, an air-integration module would be possible but it isn't with the current watch (as far as I know).
Air water barrier reduces most EM signals to non usable, not even the us navy got a solution against laws of physics. They have ways around it, but I doubt you have another navy vessel to help support your dive computer
I'm a bit of a geek over new toys and was super excited about this... I've been diving with my Ultra and Oceanic+ as a backup computer for 7 months and have had nothing but problems - about half the time not getting it to work at all. The app looks cool and is easy to use if/when it works, but I wouldn't rely on it for my primary dive computer. Their tech support has been pretty awful - typically a next day email telling me to sync with the app on my phone or something equally unhelpful. I would recommend that you have a good primary dive computer and use Oceanic+ as a backup/toy.
Soooo disappointed - I'm going on a dive trip in a couple weeks and if I have trouble with it there I'm going to give up and cancel my subscription.
What was the outcome? Did you cancelled your subscription
dont forget your charger...lol
this is nice,but the subscription suck!!!better use my Garmin MK2,everything in one watch.😊
You can turn off the wrist detection then you won’t need passcode
I was a certified diver for many years, and was intrigued by this watch, but now that I’ve given up the sport for several years, I decided to get the Apple Watch 8 instead. It offers features found in the Ultra that I can utilized, plus with the 8, I was able to save $400.00 and still have a great watch. 😊
Im not worried about the water but the salt
Thanks for the review. I dont dive but I would not dive with the AWU. The passcode and touch screen is frustrating. Apple cant remove the pass code due to security reasons.
Why didn't you turn the passcode off for the tests lol
Subscription based? Omg. Although I also don't dive so I have no idea what goes into creating this app so maybe that makes sense haha
waited so long for a dive feature to come to the apple watch but the subscription makes it a pass for me. Id rather just stick to my dive comp
Thanks for the great review. I'm just irrationally bitter that Apple is now dipping into this sport ugh also, subscription? I'll stick to the established dive computers
An expensive hardware purchase then a subscription on top of that? No thanks.
But the aWatch is a smart watch platform with option dive computer software, not a dedicated dive computer. You are mostly buying a smartwatch 99% of your time using it. The subscription make sense for most buyers who didn’t buy it for diving.
Unless you dive frequently all the time, paying for the subscription only when you go on a diving holiday with the most updated software probably make sense over outright owning a dive computer that rarely updates.
@@hkchan1339 If you dive that infrequently, you're more likely to use a rental computer and wouldn't be the target customer for the Ultra anyway.
@besweeeet2 it's a smart watch first the subscription isn't to Apple. It is to oceanic to use their program on the Apple watch. Truthfully it isn't any different then any other program.
How does the watch know the amount of air left in the tank?
it doesn't buy a Garmin MK1, no subscription and it comes with transmitter
It doesn't. You need your SPG for that.
For a dive computer to know the amount of air left in the tank you need a dive computer connected to your HP hose, or a wireless transmitter that can communicate with your dive computer. Oceanic has wireless transmitters, but the Apple watch isn't set up to be able to communicate with them.
I mean, you could just turn the passcode off right before you dive. Then turn it back on after.
What's is the max depth?
40meters with dive functions, 100meters total
I’m a bit apprehensive about these. I’m in the market for my first computer but it’s my personal opinion that a critical piece of dive safety equipment should be designed and used specifically for diving. Not something that is used every day with other capabilities in mind. It might be a great option to have as a backup though in case your primary computer were to fail on a dive. Better than nothing that’s for sure.
You are 100% right on. As a backup I think it's great. But a dive computer is an essential part of your life support when you are diving. You are better off getting a device made for diving rather than one that as been adapted to diving.
The Garmin mk2i is loved as a dive computer by many, but it is also a smart watch
This might be late but I’m a certified Advanced Diver.
DO NOT get this as your first computer. You are spot on when you said that it’s best to get an equipment meant JUST FOR diving.
Trust me, there are $850 dive watches that are EONS AND EONS better than this… so deff do your hw on them!
Also five watches come out faster than any device in the scuba market!
They’re awesome tools
@@dandeberry thanks for the reassurance. I did end up getting the Aqua Lung i330r. It’s fairly basic and no AI but it has a color display and easy to use. I for sure won’t be going anywhere near one of these watches.
@@ChiII_BiII hahaha that’s what I thought my friend! I knew once you went to even the cheapest of five watches you’ll see how it’s better!
Good choice btw! I’m due for an upgrade
Nice overview! seems a bit too finicky for my liking, for diving it’s all about keep it simple and easy to use. I stick with my shearwaters!
The band will not fit your wrist in a drysuit without an extension, and it barely fits over a wetsuit. Additionally, the battery dies quickly in cold water.
Nice, thorough review. Also, nice concept Apple. That said, while I’m usually an early adopter of new technology, in this case, I think I’ll hold out for at least Rev 3. Too glitchy and cumbersome from what I saw, and we ARE after all, talking about a critically important component of a LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM! In terms of user experience, Apple could take some lessons from Shearwater.
dive computer Suunto D6i NOVO INSTRUCTOR - as my life depends on it, I will stick with professional gear 🙂
So we not gonna talk about the bonobo track?
i also want to do that but is so expensive...😀
Maximun depth ?
40 meters
But i don’t do scuba diving
Cool feature but most pro divers will never use an Apple watch for diving.
Most recreational divers shouldn't either.
Even if you're only OW certified and not AOW, I still think a true dive computer is the better choice. Either a much cheaper model if you're never going to advance to TEC, or a Shearwater if you are.
The passcode issue is a major hassle....
just turn off wrist detection
Lost me at when we have to pay a monthly subscription for a dice computer
But this is a smart watch platform with option dive computer software, not a dedicated dive computer. The subscription make sense for most buyers who didn’t buy it for diving
@@hkchan1339 i havent watched the video yet but i got two opinions on this
If the app is apple's then its bs you already bought the watch why pay more to unlock what it already can do. Apple doesnt need more money.
If this is a third party app then its fine.. ppl work to keep the app functioning and secure. They need the founding.
@@misterjuca5357 Its not apples app
@@misterjuca5357 The app is made by another company, that's why they charge for it. But still in my opinion Apple should have replicated their app or bought the company before launching the Ultra, and offering the service free of charge as you already pay a lot for the watch itself.
CNET, is there a pilot Apple Watch?
A lot of pilots use apple watches, but my pilot friend use an iPad mostly for his flight maps not dedicated
$800? I don't see the software cost as being much of a problem, but my dive computer was much less than that and has integrated air pressure and a computer upload link over USB. It also has a huge screen that is easy to read, and I prefer dive computers in the console attached to the air hose rather than on my wrist. I guess the advantage is you have a watch you can use for other sports and outdoors things, but it seems like it would be better to get a regular watch for that and a dive computer for diving. Also, I guess I have to admit that I don't have an iPhone, so it wouldn't work too well for me. Maybe at some point this will be something that could replace a regular dive computer.
Take off the passwords duh!
Haha. Yes. That’s the dumbest feature of the watch. Just secure it. There is no passcode on your wallet or keys, yet you survive.
Haha thanks for the tip, next time :)
@@alliejr actually you do have a password for your credit cards, which is what the passcode is for on the watch. I’m guessing that will be fixed once the Oceanic app is out of beta because it does seem annoying. You could also temporarily disable passcode locking too.
@@bbyever i mean contactless paying exists with cards too
you can deactivate skin contact on the watch
I was so confused with the data showing on the watch then, I remembered that Americans don't use the metric system lol. Good review though.
They're slowly coming over to the light. The metric system is more common in America than most Americans realize. They buy Coca-Cola by the liter, dose medicine by the cc, get nutritional value by the mg. do photography and filmography in mm, and engine sizes in liters. (Thanks to Neil deGrasse Tyson for providing this info).
@@bloodymarvelous4790Maybe, but we will stick to miles and feet and Fahrenheit for our day to day life. They are much more intuitive and anthropocentric than metric and u might notice that metric has no rational base anymore, as they keep trying to base it on some physical value resulting in nonsense! When the Brits decide to drive on the RHS of the road, as we do, we might consider metric.
What about warranty
Does apple watch has water damage warranty
Yes
@@hkchan1339 samsung has none 😭😭😭
@@urandurparthu1526 to be accurate, Apple don’t cover water damage , but there is a out of warranty fee for replacement that is not too outrageous
Apple shines yet again!
Why do you need a pass code on a watch?
Because it can be used for purchases with Apple Pay via NFC.
Incase u get robbed nobody cab get your information
Umm turn the password off. lol 🤦♂️
Yes indeed, don't make the same mistake I did lol
I'll stick to my Peregrine
There is absolutely no way I would use an apple watch as a dive computer. They are not flawless enough.
As an experienced diver, I wouldnt use such a watch as dive watch. I would be too careful to damage it. I prefer a dive computer that I have no fear of hitting rocks or equipment. I mean... just entering the water from a rocky surface or handling all equipment is prone to damage this too nice looking Apple watch.