Present! - Dreaming with Robert Moss (part one)
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- In Part One of this interview with Mel Van Dusen, writer, lecturer and professor of ancient history, Robert Moss, talks about dreams and their power in guiding us to an experience of deeper realities and fuller lives.
Has inspired me. Grateful.
Loved this interview, thank you for uploading it.
magic mushrooms are a tool i have used time went out the window and it was one of the most profound experiences of my life
I tend to dream to see something that have strong emotion in the future. Unfortunately, mostly are some events that caused anger in me... and some do happened.
Love this🙏
I don't know how some folk on CZcams can describe Robert Moss as 'new-agey' -in a condescending way, if these dismissive and ill-founded disparaging remarks are an attempt to suggest the great man is somehow superficial/wishy-washy, nothing could actually be further from the truth.
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Thank you for this valuable information.
Folks this is the dream and we gain control when we go to sleep. Get lucid and trust the process. We are not alone in this dream, we have ET's, loved ones, Archangels and more, just ask, keep asking.
Thank you !!!
I used to have the power to daydream something an have it manifest . I could play a scene out in my mind and it would happen. The best example I have is when I was 14 I ran away from home, leaving Maryland in the middle of the night with a snowstorm beginning to blow. I had decided on the spur of the moment to go to Florida ( had never been before) So I get out on the highway with my thumb out and the first car that stops is an airman on his way back to his base in, you guessed it, Florida ! I have been ‘lucky’ like that all of my life . But it was my return trip that proved to me that this power was something I controlled and it worked because I believed without doubt that it would. I had been caught by the authorities and put on a plane ( unaccompanied) to go back to Maryland . There was a change of planes in Atlanta, Georgia where I was to be met by airport security and escorted to the next plane, they assured my parents that they had it all under control. So I board the plane in Florida and I’m in the back row by myself , one seat next to me and it’s empty. I’m very upset because I’m being taken from my first love (r) and I’m heartbroken.I thought to myself “ I wish some old man would sit down next to me ,ask me what’s wrong , listen to my story and after buying me a strawberry daiquiri offer to help me get past the authorities by pretending I was his daughter and just walking off the pane . I swear on all that is sacred to me , fifteen minutes before take off a grizzled old sea captain looking gentleman sits down next to me and word for word , action for action it happened just the way I’d imagined it ! We walked off the plane and the authorities came up me and called me by name and I said no that’s not me and he says “ this is so an so, my daughter, is there a problem ?” And they apologized and we walked away ,parting ways once out of sight where he caught his next flight and I hitchhiked back to Florida. But I lost the ability for the most part as I got older and became jaded and less inclined to believe I had any power. I miss it
If you had it, it can come back 🙏
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I love the place where they are seated
Another important staff member of the ISC who would become Crozier's
inseparable partner throughout the 1970s and 1980s was Robert Moss, like Crozier
born in Australia. Educated at the University of Canberra and the London School of
Economics, Moss first met Crozier in 1969 when Moss came to see him with an
introduction from his father-in-law Geoffrey Fairbairn, a founding member of the ISC
Council (72). A central figure in the ISC and many later Crozier ventures, Moss would
follow Crozier's precedent in becoming Editor of the Economist Foreign Report from
1974 to 1980 and would serve as one of the CIA's main disinformation assets,
particularly in the campaign to destabilise Chile's Salvador Allende in 1973.
glarsen please expound
@@JamesR23 Besides its British and European operations in 1972-73, the ISC was also an
active partner in the CIA's media campaign against Allende when its material would
also be surfaced by a Chilean CIA front group, the Institute for General Studies. The
most prolific author in this campaign was Crozier's partner Robert Moss, a central
member of the ISC who had visited Chile in early 1972 as a correspondent for the
Economist. In February and March of 1973, the ISC published two Conflict Studies
on Chile written by Moss, The Santiago Model: Revolution within Democracy and The Santiago Model: the Polarisation of Politics. The ISC would also focus on alleged KGB
support for Allende in the Caribbean region at this time, producing a Conflict Study
by Crozier entitled Soviet Pressures in the Caribbean in June 1973 and a Special
Report by Moss, The Stability of the Caribbean, in November 1973, the latter being
the proceedings of a conference held in May at Ditchley Park under the chairmanship
of Major-General Clutterbuck and sponsored by the ISC and the Georgetown Centre
for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) (161)*. Forum World Features itself
would publish the most notorious contribution to the anti-Allende campaign, Robert
Moss's Chile's Marxist Experiment. The book would arrive too late to contribute to the
campaign - Allende had already been killed in the military coup - but the book still
had its uses: the Chilean Junta bought nearly 10,000 copies for distribution by the
Chilean Embassy in Washington. Moss would add his conclusions on the coup in
March 1974 in an article entitled Chile's Coup and After published by Encounter, the
journal of the FWF parent body, the CCF. Moss would also come back to Allende and
the coup in his 1975 book The Collapse of Democracy (162).
One month after the Cercle launched its international campaign to raise the
profile of the ISC, a new organisation was formed in Britain to bring together the
various groups that were "concerned about the relentless spread of subversion" (209).
The new group, the National Association For Freedom (NAFF), was formed in July
1975, although not formally founded until December. NAFF's first action in August
1975 was to organise a seminar on subversion where veteran espionage journalist
and MI5 friend Chapman Pincher served as guest speaker; unsurprisingly, Pincher
would later be a major media outlet for the anti-CND propaganda produced by
Crozier's private intelligence service, the 6I. By mid-1977, NAFF boasted 30,000 members (210). The list of members of the Executive and National Council of the
NAFF shows that the new alliance was a merger of the SIF, the ISC and the Tory
Right, including many of the figures involved in the anti-Labour operations of the
previous few years.
The Director of NAFF and first editor of its bulletin The Free Nation was Robert
Moss. Moss enjoyed close links to the newly elected Conservative leadership and
would soon become one of Thatcher's favourite speechwriters - it was a speech
written by Moss and given by Thatcher in January 1976, only six weeks after NAFF's
foundation, which famously mocked and then adopted the nickname of "Iron Lady"
given to her by the Soviet military newspaper Red Star. Alongside Moss on the NAFF
Executive, we find Norris McWhirter, a member of the SIF National Executive, and
author with his brother Ross of the NAFF Charter. Ross McWhirter would be
assassinated by the IRA just before NAFF's official launch in December 1975 (211)*.
At MINUTE 26:50, William Buhlman of the Monroe Institute calls [some of these] parallel realities "consensus realities" because they are the result of consensual thought of disembodied souls who shared [and highly valued] common human experiences, beliefs and expectations.
It happens that I frequently visit such realities, and at one point down the line, I ask someone where I am! Why? Because I don't remember how I got there, yet I'm fully conscious. A few nights ago I found myself [again] in Tijuana, Mexico, wondering why I was there and how I arrived.
The night before the visit to a Tijuana that doesn't resemble this world's same city, I was in the countryside of Ontario, Canada. Often, I'm in Spain, Sometimes I go to the beautiful town on the backside of Santa Catalina Island which does not exist in this world I love these experiences, but I'd love to understand them better.
Its very modern and western, to think-you can just down some cactus or peyote, or mushrooms DMT, and have an experience-sure you have an experience, but its not integrated..it becomes "just an experience"-a type of indulgence. Those with integrated experiences understand the process and honor the dream, how ever it comes-not just the psychedelic road to get there.
I always dream about, looking inside empty homes that I want to buy.
Great interview, very useful information. I upload information on dreams fairly often, have a look at some of them and tell me what you think.
I'm a Professor of playing the trumpet without the teeth.Any Tooth.
i love DMT and other psychs but nothing comes close to lucid dreaming :o thats the greatest trip of them all :) well i dont know its a tie between smoked DMT and that :p but then again they are somewhat the same...
The interviewer is REALLY annoying....edit out the interviewer and Robert Moss is speaking gold!
I don't know why you say that. He asks great questions.
There are shamans and human experiences of accessing these realms NATURALLY without the substances. Shamans use plants and substances unique to their OWN environment and culture, history, etc; it is a sacred process involving sacrifice, dance, drumming, fasting, preparation and ritual-all unique to their culture and traditions.The shaman has waking dreams without substance too,most of the time-some shamans use no substance at all-just dance and drumming ie Sundance ceremonies.
This video has a strange feel to it. The narration is a little off. The speakers look like they don't quite believe what they're saying. The editing is jarring.
@Mike Gilliland - I think it's the makeshift, unimaginative setting + Robert Moss is obviously a little uncomfortable with the interviewer. And that could be because the setting was so hastily thrown together. Plus, I can tell he doesn't like sitting so close to the interviewer; and neither would I.
ugh this guy is way to pompous to listen to
It's just this particular interview. I know what you mean. But it's not really Robert Moss' modus operandi. I ran across him back when this interview was first recorded and had the same reaction. But what I missed out on is inestimable. His is projecting his English / BBC side, not his Aussi side. I lived in Australia. Not typical.
l love it - reminds me of Hitchens. Really made me wish Hitchens was still around to talk "shop" with this guy. I'm pretty much "atheist" by most accounts. But I remember reading Conscious Dreaming more than 15 years ago now, one of those situations where the book sorta found me (was in a box of otherwise un-noteworthy books in a 2nd hand book store and for some reason I grabbed it, despite having no interest in "dreams" and loved it).
You are too judgemental perhaps!